Cuomo Claims Ordering Positive COVID Patients To Nursing Homes Did Not Spread The Virus

[BS Filter]

These are very sick creatures.

 

[Dragonlady]

The returning from the hospital covid residence were put in separate covid isolation wards from the nursing home wards of residents without covid, was the directive to nursing homes in New York.

Yet even with the added nursing home resident deaths added from those who died in the hospital,

NY nursing home covid deaths is a much lower percentage of covid deaths in their state, 33%, than the average nursing home deaths in all the other states, which is running around 40%?

How could what NY did, have fewer as a percentage... lower death rate than other states who allegedly didn't do, what NY State did in nursing homes??

You really are a despicable piece of shit. New York has a higher death rate than ANY state in the US by any metric.

STOP LYING!

You're the one who is lying: This chart show New York LTC death rates from covid are lower than 19 other states including Texas, Arizona, Florida, Maryland or Massachuetts.

COVID-19 death rate in nursing homes by state U.S. 2020 | Statista

As of September 27, 2020, there were around 125 COVID-19 deaths per 1,000 residents in nursing homes in Massachusetts.

www.statista.com

This one is a colour coded map in which New York and New Jersey are shown with much lower death rates, than many other states. In fact, despite being one of the first states hit with little testing and no idea of how the disease impacted its victims, or how to effective treat it, with 39% of its deaths from LTC facilities, New York is only 3 points above the national average of 36% of deaths being from LTC patients.

Long-Term-Care COVID Tracker

To date, the Long-Term-Care COVID Tracker is the most comprehensive dataset about COVID-19 in US long-term care facilities.

covidtracking.com

Republicans are the ones who are lying specifically about Andrew Cuomo, and falsely smearing Cuomo on these nursing home deaths. This is a very specific line of attack on a very specific governor. Why is the Trump Cult going to such length to lie about and to falsely smear Cuomo?

You're goning to continue to get called on these campaigns of smears and lies, until you people stop lying and start telling the truth.

You smarmy eels can dish it out, but whine and cry like a scalded hound when you get it back.

Your post makes absolutely no sense. Countering lies, distortions and attempts to falsely smear Governor Cuomo makes the people telling the truth smarmy eels. Are Republicans that opposed to honesty in government that they cannot handle being told the truth about Democrats?

You live in an upside down land where people who condemn insurrection and support the rule of law are censured for doing so, and those who believe conspiracy theories and lies about Democrats are given standing ovations.

The republican party has come to personify the old adage that if you don’t stand for something you’ll fall for anything.

You made a claim. Show us a link to the information from the CDC that no infectious patients were put in the nursing homes.

We didn’t make the claim. Cuomo did.

The link is in the Cuomo Presz conference posted up thread. Find it yourself.

 

[BS Filter]

The returning from the hospital covid residence were put in separate covid isolation wards from the nursing home wards of residents without covid, was the directive to nursing homes in New York.

Yet even with the added nursing home resident deaths added from those who died in the hospital,

NY nursing home covid deaths is a much lower percentage of covid deaths in their state, 33%, than the average nursing home deaths in all the other states, which is running around 40%?

How could what NY did, have fewer as a percentage... lower death rate than other states who allegedly didn't do, what NY State did in nursing homes??

You really are a despicable piece of shit. New York has a higher death rate than ANY state in the US by any metric.

STOP LYING!

You're the one who is lying: This chart show New York LTC death rates from covid are lower than 19 other states including Texas, Arizona, Florida, Maryland or Massachuetts.

COVID-19 death rate in nursing homes by state U.S. 2020 | Statista

As of September 27, 2020, there were around 125 COVID-19 deaths per 1,000 residents in nursing homes in Massachusetts.

www.statista.com

This one is a colour coded map in which New York and New Jersey are shown with much lower death rates, than many other states. In fact, despite being one of the first states hit with little testing and no idea of how the disease impacted its victims, or how to effective treat it, with 39% of its deaths from LTC facilities, New York is only 3 points above the national average of 36% of deaths being from LTC patients.

Long-Term-Care COVID Tracker

To date, the Long-Term-Care COVID Tracker is the most comprehensive dataset about COVID-19 in US long-term care facilities.

covidtracking.com

Republicans are the ones who are lying specifically about Andrew Cuomo, and falsely smearing Cuomo on these nursing home deaths. This is a very specific line of attack on a very specific governor. Why is the Trump Cult going to such length to lie about and to falsely smear Cuomo?

You're goning to continue to get called on these campaigns of smears and lies, until you people stop lying and start telling the truth.

You smarmy eels can dish it out, but whine and cry like a scalded hound when you get it back.

Your post makes absolutely no sense. Countering lies, distortions and attempts to falsely smear Governor Cuomo makes the people telling the truth smarmy eels. Are Republicans that opposed to honesty in government that they cannot handle being told the truth about Democrats?

You live in an upside down land where people who condemn insurrection and support the rule of law are censured for doing so, and those who believe conspiracy theories and lies about Democrats are given standing ovations.

The republican party has come to personify the old adage that if you don’t stand for something you’ll fall for anything.

You made a claim. Show us a link to the information from the CDC that no infectious patients were put in the nursing homes.

We didn’t make the claim. Cuomo did.

The link is in the Cuomo Presz conference posted up thread. Find it yourself.

Cuomo is a liar and you're his stooge.

 

[Dragonlady]

These are very sick creatures.

So you can’t rebut anything that we’ve posted. You can just sit there and post that we are evil and awful because we refuse to believe your lies.

Real life doesn’t work this way. When your lies are completely debunked, you don’t get to pretend your BS isn’t total and utter bullshit.

I find it utterly deplorable that you continue to smear, vilify and discredit those who have actually worked very hard to reduce the loss of life, based on whether there’s a D or an R after their name.

You continue to filter out all fact, reason, and logic and to continue to give us nothing but total BS.

 

[westwall]

These are very sick creatures.

So you can’t rebut anything that we’ve posted. You can just sit there and post that we are evil and awful because we refuse to believe your lies.

Real life doesn’t work this way. When your lies are completely debunked, you don’t get to pretend your BS isn’t total and utter bullshit.

I find it utterly deplorable that you continue to smear, vilify and discredit those who have actually worked very hard to reduce the loss of life, based on whether there’s a D or an R after their name.

You continue to filter out all fact, reason, and logic and to continue to give us nothing but total BS.

Cuomos own staff has already refuted what you say you stupid clod.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Cuz science.
The guy is a total psychopath. Seriously, And everyone that carried his water and celebrated him for the last year has the same blood on their hands he does.
View attachment 457883

Let me see... Placing COVID positive patients with COVID negative people who are highly susceptible to infection from the virus..... Cuomo really is that stupid or just that big of a psychopathic murderer... I'm going with the later as he was trying to make Trump look bad....

We've spent the last fucking year being told that we have to avoid every other human being in existence because of the danger of Covid, particularly the danger that we might pass it to some geezer or someone with a geezer in the family. NOW we're supposed to believe Cuomo could put people who quite definitely had Covid in a closed environment with a bunch of geezers, and it's not really that dangerous?

Could someone explain to me why, then, the entire world is social-distancing and wearing face diapers?

1. The covid patients Cuomo sent back to the nursing homes were no longer contagious, according to the CDC.

2. The nursing homes had the option of refusing to take the patients back, if they lacked the resources to care for them.

3. The nursing homes are, by law, supposed to have isolation units for infectious diseases, with negative air pressure systems (when the doors open - air rushes in, not out).

4. LTC patients, do not do well in general hospital settings. Hospitals are poorly equipped to deal with eldercare or memory care. LTC facilities which specialize in such care have both the resources and the staff to ensure proper care for the elderly.

Personally, if I had a family member in LTC, I would have gotten them the fuck outta that home the moment we saw the nursing homes getting hit. One of my friends went to court to get her former MIL out of a home that already had cases. Ultimately, 74 people died in that nursing home. Her former MIL is now living happily with my friend, and their family. They all seem to be quarantining together. When this ends and we get back to living and working again, my friend will not be able to continue to care for her MIL. She travels extensively in her work - and is often out of the country for a month or more at a time, but until that happens, they will continue to care for her.

My DIL is a nurse at a "for profit" nursing care facility in the city where they live. They had cupboards full of PPE here. There were never shortages of PPE in Canada. At her home, the staff were told NOT to wear masks, or PPE, so not as to "frighten" the patients. And yes, there was a major outbreak at this home.

Yes, social distance and mask wearing works. It worked here, last spring, and combined with our post-Christmas lockdown, it's working again with our second wave: Our schools would have re-opened yesterday, if not for the Snow Day!!!

On an unrelated note, I am saddened and appalled that children and teachers are now required to attend e-learning classes on Snow Days. Snow Days spent at the hill behind the local high school football field with my friends toboganning, making snowmen, snow angels, snow forts, and having snowball fights, and then going home and my Mom making us hot chocolate, are some of the best childhood memories I have. Forcing children indoors to sit at a computer during a snow day is wrong on every level. I applaud those parents who played hooky from eclasses and built a snow fort in the front yard, took their kids ice fishing, tobogganing, or made a snowman.

Liar. Cuomo made it a REQUIREMENT that nursing homes take in sick ChiCom Flu patients. They could not refuse.

Does it make you feel excited to lie for a mass murderer?
Leftard NBC:

At a NY nursing home forced to take COVID-19 patients, 24 residents have died

“It’s reckless and careless,” said the granddaughter of a 96-year-old man whose family withdrew him from a Long Island nursing home.

www.nbcnews.com

From your link

“Nursing homes are working so hard to keep the virus out, and now we’re going to be introducing new COVID-positive patients?” asked David Grabowski, a professor of health policy at Harvard Medical School. Instead, he believes that states should create COVID-only facilities for recovering patients discharged from hospitals.

Which did NOT exist

So Cuomo is even more incompetent by not taking a building and making it a COVID facility.
Funny. The Navy sat a hospital ship in NY harbor and Cuomo didn’t send ONE patient there.

The Navy specifically asked that no Covid patients be sent to the Navy ship. It was only after this was revealed that they agreed to take covid patients.

And now you're going to prove that assertion, because you know that everyone here views you as a utter joke and will automatically assume that anything you say is a pile of bullshit, simply because it was you who said it.

I won't hold my breath while you go try to figure out the meaning of the word "prove".

 

[BS Filter]

These are very sick creatures.

So you can’t rebut anything that we’ve posted. You can just sit there and post that we are evil and awful because we refuse to believe your lies.

Real life doesn’t work this way. When your lies are completely debunked, you don’t get to pretend your BS isn’t total and utter bullshit.

I find it utterly deplorable that you continue to smear, vilify and discredit those who have actually worked very hard to reduce the loss of life, based on whether there’s a D or an R after their name.

You continue to filter out all fact, reason, and logic and to continue to give us nothing but total BS.

The end of Cuomo is near. Are you going down with the Captain of the ship?

9 NY state assembly Democrats accuse Cuomo of obstruction, tell colleagues to put aside ‘loyalty’

Nine Democratic New York State Assembly members signed a letter to their colleagues accusing Gov. Andrew Cuomo of obstruction of justice and asking that lawmakers set aside political loyalty and oppose him.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Dragonlady]

The returning from the hospital covid residence were put in separate covid isolation wards from the nursing home wards of residents without covid, was the directive to nursing homes in New York.

Yet even with the added nursing home resident deaths added from those who died in the hospital,

NY nursing home covid deaths is a much lower percentage of covid deaths in their state, 33%, than the average nursing home deaths in all the other states, which is running around 40%?

How could what NY did, have fewer as a percentage... lower death rate than other states who allegedly didn't do, what NY State did in nursing homes??

You really are a despicable piece of shit. New York has a higher death rate than ANY state in the US by any metric.

STOP LYING!

You're the one who is lying: This chart show New York LTC death rates from covid are lower than 19 other states including Texas, Arizona, Florida, Maryland or Massachuetts.

COVID-19 death rate in nursing homes by state U.S. 2020 | Statista

As of September 27, 2020, there were around 125 COVID-19 deaths per 1,000 residents in nursing homes in Massachusetts.

www.statista.com

This one is a colour coded map in which New York and New Jersey are shown with much lower death rates, than many other states. In fact, despite being one of the first states hit with little testing and no idea of how the disease impacted its victims, or how to effective treat it, with 39% of its deaths from LTC facilities, New York is only 3 points above the national average of 36% of deaths being from LTC patients.

Long-Term-Care COVID Tracker

To date, the Long-Term-Care COVID Tracker is the most comprehensive dataset about COVID-19 in US long-term care facilities.

covidtracking.com

Republicans are the ones who are lying specifically about Andrew Cuomo, and falsely smearing Cuomo on these nursing home deaths. This is a very specific line of attack on a very specific governor. Why is the Trump Cult going to such length to lie about and to falsely smear Cuomo?

You're goning to continue to get called on these campaigns of smears and lies, until you people stop lying and start telling the truth.

You smarmy eels can dish it out, but whine and cry like a scalded hound when you get it back.

Your post makes absolutely no sense. Countering lies, distortions and attempts to falsely smear Governor Cuomo makes the people telling the truth smarmy eels. Are Republicans that opposed to honesty in government that they cannot handle being told the truth about Democrats?

You live in an upside down land where people who condemn insurrection and support the rule of law are censured for doing so, and those who believe conspiracy theories and lies about Democrats are given standing ovations.

The republican party has come to personify the old adage that if you don’t stand for something you’ll fall for anything.

You made a claim. Show us a link to the information from the CDC that no infectious patients were put in the nursing homes.

We didn’t make the claim. Cuomo did.

The link is in the Cuomo Presz conference posted up thread. Find it yourself.

Cuomo is a liar and you're his stooge.

Well gee, golly whizz that’s really solid proof!!! Some asshole on the Internet just called Cuomo a liar. It must be true.

Facts FuckBoi. Start backing your bullshit up with facts. Your feelings that he’s a liar or not being validated.

 

[Cecilie1200]

The returning from the hospital covid residence were put in separate covid isolation wards from the nursing home wards of residents without covid, was the directive to nursing homes in New York.

Yet even with the added nursing home resident deaths added from those who died in the hospital,

NY nursing home covid deaths is a much lower percentage of covid deaths in their state, 33%, than the average nursing home deaths in all the other states, which is running around 40%?

How could what NY did, have fewer as a percentage... lower death rate than other states who allegedly didn't do, what NY State did in nursing homes??

You really are a despicable piece of shit. New York has a higher death rate than ANY state in the US by any metric.

STOP LYING!

You're the one who is lying: This chart show New York LTC death rates from covid are lower than 19 other states including Texas, Arizona, Florida, Maryland or Massachuetts.

COVID-19 death rate in nursing homes by state U.S. 2020 | Statista

As of September 27, 2020, there were around 125 COVID-19 deaths per 1,000 residents in nursing homes in Massachusetts.

www.statista.com

This one is a colour coded map in which New York and New Jersey are shown with much lower death rates, than many other states. In fact, despite being one of the first states hit with little testing and no idea of how the disease impacted its victims, or how to effective treat it, with 39% of its deaths from LTC facilities, New York is only 3 points above the national average of 36% of deaths being from LTC patients.

Long-Term-Care COVID Tracker

To date, the Long-Term-Care COVID Tracker is the most comprehensive dataset about COVID-19 in US long-term care facilities.

covidtracking.com

Republicans are the ones who are lying specifically about Andrew Cuomo, and falsely smearing Cuomo on these nursing home deaths. This is a very specific line of attack on a very specific governor. Why is the Trump Cult going to such length to lie about and to falsely smear Cuomo?

You're goning to continue to get called on these campaigns of smears and lies, until you people stop lying and start telling the truth.

You smarmy eels can dish it out, but whine and cry like a scalded hound when you get it back.

Your post makes absolutely no sense. Countering lies, distortions and attempts to falsely smear Governor Cuomo makes the people telling the truth smarmy eels. Are Republicans that opposed to honesty in government that they cannot handle being told the truth about Democrats?

You live in an upside down land where people who condemn insurrection and support the rule of law are censured for doing so, and those who believe conspiracy theories and lies about Democrats are given standing ovations.

The republican party has come to personify the old adage that if you don’t stand for something you’ll fall for anything.

You made a claim. Show us a link to the information from the CDC that no infectious patients were put in the nursing homes.

We didn’t make the claim. Cuomo did.

The link is in the Cuomo Presz conference posted up thread. Find it yourself.

What everyone just heard: "I don't have to prove anything. I just have to mouth my talking points like the obedient dog I am, and it's YOUR job to prove me wrong."

What everyone just did: Viewed your post as evidence that they were right when they assumed that you saying it made it automatically garbage.

Thanks for coming and wasting everyone's time pretending you might matter. Now run along back to LightMyFart, Canada, because those Cheetos aren't going to eat themselves.

 

[BS Filter]

The returning from the hospital covid residence were put in separate covid isolation wards from the nursing home wards of residents without covid, was the directive to nursing homes in New York.

Yet even with the added nursing home resident deaths added from those who died in the hospital,

NY nursing home covid deaths is a much lower percentage of covid deaths in their state, 33%, than the average nursing home deaths in all the other states, which is running around 40%?

How could what NY did, have fewer as a percentage... lower death rate than other states who allegedly didn't do, what NY State did in nursing homes??

You really are a despicable piece of shit. New York has a higher death rate than ANY state in the US by any metric.

STOP LYING!

You're the one who is lying: This chart show New York LTC death rates from covid are lower than 19 other states including Texas, Arizona, Florida, Maryland or Massachuetts.

COVID-19 death rate in nursing homes by state U.S. 2020 | Statista

As of September 27, 2020, there were around 125 COVID-19 deaths per 1,000 residents in nursing homes in Massachusetts.

www.statista.com

This one is a colour coded map in which New York and New Jersey are shown with much lower death rates, than many other states. In fact, despite being one of the first states hit with little testing and no idea of how the disease impacted its victims, or how to effective treat it, with 39% of its deaths from LTC facilities, New York is only 3 points above the national average of 36% of deaths being from LTC patients.

Long-Term-Care COVID Tracker

To date, the Long-Term-Care COVID Tracker is the most comprehensive dataset about COVID-19 in US long-term care facilities.

covidtracking.com

Republicans are the ones who are lying specifically about Andrew Cuomo, and falsely smearing Cuomo on these nursing home deaths. This is a very specific line of attack on a very specific governor. Why is the Trump Cult going to such length to lie about and to falsely smear Cuomo?

You're goning to continue to get called on these campaigns of smears and lies, until you people stop lying and start telling the truth.

You smarmy eels can dish it out, but whine and cry like a scalded hound when you get it back.

Your post makes absolutely no sense. Countering lies, distortions and attempts to falsely smear Governor Cuomo makes the people telling the truth smarmy eels. Are Republicans that opposed to honesty in government that they cannot handle being told the truth about Democrats?

You live in an upside down land where people who condemn insurrection and support the rule of law are censured for doing so, and those who believe conspiracy theories and lies about Democrats are given standing ovations.

The republican party has come to personify the old adage that if you don’t stand for something you’ll fall for anything.

You made a claim. Show us a link to the information from the CDC that no infectious patients were put in the nursing homes.

We didn’t make the claim. Cuomo did.

The link is in the Cuomo Presz conference posted up thread. Find it yourself.

Cuomo is a liar and you're his stooge.

Well gee, golly whizz that’s really solid proof!!! Some asshole on the Internet just called Cuomo a liar. It must be true.

Facts FuckBoi. Start backing your bullshit up with facts. Your feelings that he’s a liar or not being validated.

You're very ill. Please get some help.

9 NY state assembly Democrats accuse Cuomo of obstruction, tell colleagues to put aside ‘loyalty’

Nine Democratic New York State Assembly members signed a letter to their colleagues accusing Gov. Andrew Cuomo of obstruction of justice and asking that lawmakers set aside political loyalty and oppose him.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Dragonlady]

Cuz science.
The guy is a total psychopath. Seriously, And everyone that carried his water and celebrated him for the last year has the same blood on their hands he does.
View attachment 457883

Let me see... Placing COVID positive patients with COVID negative people who are highly susceptible to infection from the virus..... Cuomo really is that stupid or just that big of a psychopathic murderer... I'm going with the later as he was trying to make Trump look bad....

We've spent the last fucking year being told that we have to avoid every other human being in existence because of the danger of Covid, particularly the danger that we might pass it to some geezer or someone with a geezer in the family. NOW we're supposed to believe Cuomo could put people who quite definitely had Covid in a closed environment with a bunch of geezers, and it's not really that dangerous?

Could someone explain to me why, then, the entire world is social-distancing and wearing face diapers?

1. The covid patients Cuomo sent back to the nursing homes were no longer contagious, according to the CDC.

2. The nursing homes had the option of refusing to take the patients back, if they lacked the resources to care for them.

3. The nursing homes are, by law, supposed to have isolation units for infectious diseases, with negative air pressure systems (when the doors open - air rushes in, not out).

4. LTC patients, do not do well in general hospital settings. Hospitals are poorly equipped to deal with eldercare or memory care. LTC facilities which specialize in such care have both the resources and the staff to ensure proper care for the elderly.

Personally, if I had a family member in LTC, I would have gotten them the fuck outta that home the moment we saw the nursing homes getting hit. One of my friends went to court to get her former MIL out of a home that already had cases. Ultimately, 74 people died in that nursing home. Her former MIL is now living happily with my friend, and their family. They all seem to be quarantining together. When this ends and we get back to living and working again, my friend will not be able to continue to care for her MIL. She travels extensively in her work - and is often out of the country for a month or more at a time, but until that happens, they will continue to care for her.

My DIL is a nurse at a "for profit" nursing care facility in the city where they live. They had cupboards full of PPE here. There were never shortages of PPE in Canada. At her home, the staff were told NOT to wear masks, or PPE, so not as to "frighten" the patients. And yes, there was a major outbreak at this home.

Yes, social distance and mask wearing works. It worked here, last spring, and combined with our post-Christmas lockdown, it's working again with our second wave: Our schools would have re-opened yesterday, if not for the Snow Day!!!

On an unrelated note, I am saddened and appalled that children and teachers are now required to attend e-learning classes on Snow Days. Snow Days spent at the hill behind the local high school football field with my friends toboganning, making snowmen, snow angels, snow forts, and having snowball fights, and then going home and my Mom making us hot chocolate, are some of the best childhood memories I have. Forcing children indoors to sit at a computer during a snow day is wrong on every level. I applaud those parents who played hooky from eclasses and built a snow fort in the front yard, took their kids ice fishing, tobogganing, or made a snowman.

Liar. Cuomo made it a REQUIREMENT that nursing homes take in sick ChiCom Flu patients. They could not refuse.

Does it make you feel excited to lie for a mass murderer?
Leftard NBC:

At a NY nursing home forced to take COVID-19 patients, 24 residents have died

“It’s reckless and careless,” said the granddaughter of a 96-year-old man whose family withdrew him from a Long Island nursing home.

www.nbcnews.com

From your link

“Nursing homes are working so hard to keep the virus out, and now we’re going to be introducing new COVID-positive patients?” asked David Grabowski, a professor of health policy at Harvard Medical School. Instead, he believes that states should create COVID-only facilities for recovering patients discharged from hospitals.

Which did NOT exist

So Cuomo is even more incompetent by not taking a building and making it a COVID facility.
Funny. The Navy sat a hospital ship in NY harbor and Cuomo didn’t send ONE patient there.

The Navy specifically asked that no Covid patients be sent to the Navy ship. It was only after this was revealed that they agreed to take covid patients.

And now you're going to prove that assertion, because you know that everyone here views you as a utter joke and will automatically assume that anything you say is a pile of bullshit, simply because it was you who said it.

I won't hold my breath while you go try to figure out the meaning of the word "prove".

"The Comfort, which is docked on Manhattan’s West Side, previously was deployed to the Big Apple with the understand that it would not treat patients with coronavirus.

The ship until now has been used to treat just a handful of patients without COVID-19, leading to criticism that the ship has been of little or no help with the hospital crisis in New York. The state is is the epicenter of the pandemic in the United States."

Trump allows coronavirus patients on Navy ship Comfort in New York after Cuomo asks

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo asked President Donald Trump to allow coronavirus patients on the Navy ship Comfort to relieve strain on New York City hospitals dealing with COVID-19 cases.

www.google.ca

Why are we constantly being asked to provide links to news and data which has been covered extensively in the mainstream media, and which I found with a single google question? Just because YOU chose to be lazy and ill-informed, doesn't mean the rest of has have to support such laziness and lying.

 

[Dragonlady]

These are very sick creatures.

So you can’t rebut anything that we’ve posted. You can just sit there and post that we are evil and awful because we refuse to believe your lies.

Real life doesn’t work this way. When your lies are completely debunked, you don’t get to pretend your BS isn’t total and utter bullshit.

I find it utterly deplorable that you continue to smear, vilify and discredit those who have actually worked very hard to reduce the loss of life, based on whether there’s a D or an R after their name.

You continue to filter out all fact, reason, and logic and to continue to give us nothing but total BS.

Cuomos own staff has already refuted what you say you stupid clod.

"Unnamed sources" in a NYPost article is not exactly a reliable source:

• Overall we rate the New York Post on the far end of Right-Center Biased due to story selection that typically favors the Right and Mixed (borderline questionable) for factual reporting based on several failed fact checks.

New York Post - Bias and Credibility

RIGHT-CENTER BIAS These media sources are slightly to moderately conservative in bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words

mediabiasfactcheck.com

At most Cuomo is reasonably accused of only listing people who died in nursing homes in his numbers. Nursing home residents who got sick at the LTC facility and transferred to hospitals were not counted in the LTC numbers, and in being slow to correct the numbers when this was learned.

There are numerous other governors who have been less than forthcoming about their nursing home numbers too, including DeSantis and Greg Abbott from Texas. DeSantis went so far as to try to lay criminal charges against the whistleblower who outed his numbers, and not a whisper from you clowns. I lay all of these cover ups at the feet of Donald Trump who politicized a public health crisis and attacked anyone who "made him look bad".

 

[Lesh]

Cuomos own staff has already refuted what you say you stupid clod.

At most Cuomo is accused of only listing people who died in nursing homes in his numbers. Nursing home residents who got sick at the LTC facility and transferred to hospitals were not counted in the LTC numbers, and in being slow to correct the numbers when this was learned.

That takes the number of LTC residents who died of covid from 8500 to 15,000. In line or lower than the rest of the nation

 

[BS Filter]

These are very sick creatures.

So you can’t rebut anything that we’ve posted. You can just sit there and post that we are evil and awful because we refuse to believe your lies.

Real life doesn’t work this way. When your lies are completely debunked, you don’t get to pretend your BS isn’t total and utter bullshit.

I find it utterly deplorable that you continue to smear, vilify and discredit those who have actually worked very hard to reduce the loss of life, based on whether there’s a D or an R after their name.

You continue to filter out all fact, reason, and logic and to continue to give us nothing but total BS.

Cuomos own staff has already refuted what you say you stupid clod.

"Unnamed sources" in a NYPost article is not exactly a reliable source:

• Overall we rate the New York Post on the far end of Right-Center Biased due to story selection that typically favors the Right and Mixed (borderline questionable) for factual reporting based on several failed fact checks.

New York Post - Bias and Credibility

RIGHT-CENTER BIAS These media sources are slightly to moderately conservative in bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words

mediabiasfactcheck.com

At most Cuomo is reasonably accused of only listing people who died in nursing homes in his numbers. Nursing home residents who got sick at the LTC facility and transferred to hospitals were not counted in the LTC numbers, and in being slow to correct the numbers when this was learned.

There are numerous other governors who have been less than forthcoming about their nursing home numbers too, including DeSantis and Greg Abbott from Texas. DeSantis went so far as to try to lay criminal charges against the whistleblower who outed his numbers, and not a whisper from you clowns. I lay all of these cover ups at the feet of Donald Trump who politicized a public health crisis and attacked anyone who "made him look bad".

Nine Democrat Assembly members say Cuomo is guilty of obstructing justice. Are they all liars?

 

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The returning from the hospital covid residence were put in separate covid isolation wards from the nursing home wards of residents without covid, was the directive to nursing homes in New York.

Yet even with the added nursing home resident deaths added from those who died in the hospital,

NY nursing home covid deaths is a much lower percentage of covid deaths in their state, 33%, than the average nursing home deaths in all the other states, which is running around 40%?

How could what NY did, have fewer as a percentage... lower death rate than other states who allegedly didn't do, what NY State did in nursing homes??

For starters, stop using the fake data supplied by mass murderer Cuomo.

What's fake? I just looked up the data....

And NY State has had 33% of the covid deaths, from nursing home residents...

And on average States are running at 40% of their total covid deaths from nursing home residents.

So why has it been a higher percentage of nursing home deaths, of total covid deaths, in other states??? It makes absolutely no sense? Unless the other States were also sending recovering covid hospital patients as well??? Or, returning hospitalized covid patients to nursing homes did not further spread the disease because the patients were on the waning side of the virus and less infectious??? That still does not explain why a higher percentage of nursing h residents died in states other than NY State?

Maybe because Killer Cuomo killed a total of 46,235 total citizens, second only to the great state of Kalifornia.....so even though his nursing home total was high, he killed so many others it made his percentage look better.

Oh please spare us from your ignorance on this.... NY State was the first hardest hit state with the new and unknown covid 19 virus. It was hit the hardest because NYC metropolitan Airports bring in more international travelers on business and vacation than any other city in the USA and Europe, where the virus was booming. They got hit hard with the Euro version, spreading like crazy, while unknown to them. Compacted populations in cities, mass transit, packed crowds, makes rapid spread inevitable and coupled with a "silent" spread with asymptomatic people made it invisible....until it was too late.

Other states had advance notice, and Cuomo who had gone thru it ahead of them, for the states to follow and pick and choose from...or learn from....

Keeping crowded subways open and putting sick 23 year olds in elderly care homes helped a tad.

Withholding reports of deaths to the Feds is a Federal crime.

Who got really sick at 23 yrs old, that didn't have a home to go to for recovering at?

That's t plain bull shit!

I'm not defending him on whatever he did with the numbers, don't really know much about it.

This thread however, is not about the numbers.... start another thread.

Bottom line on putting covid patients released from the hospital back in to separate covid wards in to nursing homes was federal guidance that Cuomo's health administrator followed, as Cuomo claimed.

I posted it above, from the federal agency giving the states guidance.

Cuomo's claims are lies. Why can't you get that? His own party is turning on him.

 

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Cuz science.
The guy is a total psychopath. Seriously, And everyone that carried his water and celebrated him for the last year has the same blood on their hands he does.
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It really is pathetic he is trying to blame staff at nursing homes for the order HE signed.

Even NY Dims are turning on him. His political career is toast, and he should be on trial.

 

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These are very sick creatures.

So you can’t rebut anything that we’ve posted. You can just sit there and post that we are evil and awful because we refuse to believe your lies.

Real life doesn’t work this way. When your lies are completely debunked, you don’t get to pretend your BS isn’t total and utter bullshit.

I find it utterly deplorable that you continue to smear, vilify and discredit those who have actually worked very hard to reduce the loss of life, based on whether there’s a D or an R after their name.

You continue to filter out all fact, reason, and logic and to continue to give us nothing but total BS.

Cuomos own staff has already refuted what you say you stupid clod.

"Unnamed sources" in a NYPost article is not exactly a reliable source:

• Overall we rate the New York Post on the far end of Right-Center Biased due to story selection that typically favors the Right and Mixed (borderline questionable) for factual reporting based on several failed fact checks.

New York Post - Bias and Credibility

RIGHT-CENTER BIAS These media sources are slightly to moderately conservative in bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words

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At most Cuomo is reasonably accused of only listing people who died in nursing homes in his numbers. Nursing home residents who got sick at the LTC facility and transferred to hospitals were not counted in the LTC numbers, and in being slow to correct the numbers when this was learned.

There are numerous other governors who have been less than forthcoming about their nursing home numbers too, including DeSantis and Greg Abbott from Texas. DeSantis went so far as to try to lay criminal charges against the whistleblower who outed his numbers, and not a whisper from you clowns. I lay all of these cover ups at the feet of Donald Trump who politicized a public health crisis and attacked anyone who "made him look bad".

Cuomo signed an order that resulted in 15,000 deaths.

Stop trying to spin that, and deflect blame to other states, Moron.

 

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Cuomo signed an order that resulted in 15,000 deaths.

That's the TOTAL number of nursing home residents who died in NY of covid.

Are you saying NY should have had ZERO nursing home covid deaths?

Or are you just a loudmouthed ASSHOLE...YEA...THAT

 

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So let's unbderstand here.

The number of deaths of nursing home patients in NY COUNTING those who died in hospitals, is 15,000. Total deaths in NY is 45,000. That's about 33%

Deaths nationwide of nursing home patients compared to the total is 40%. That means NY had a LOWER percent of deaths in NHs than the nation as a whole.

Now given the fact that NY got hit WORSE than any other state...and this supposedly disastrous policy...you would expect that per centage to be HIGHER...wouldn't you.

Like a LOT higher.

But it's not.

Something doesn't add up

When you kill a shit-ton more people in your state overall, the percentage you kill in nursing homes goes down.

Cuomo was a massive failure on all fronts.

 

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Cuz science.
The guy is a total psychopath. Seriously, And everyone that carried his water and celebrated him for the last year has the same blood on their hands he does.
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Let me see... Placing COVID positive patients with COVID negative people who are highly susceptible to infection from the virus..... Cuomo really is that stupid or just that big of a psychopathic murderer... I'm going with the later as he was trying to make Trump look bad....

We've spent the last fucking year being told that we have to avoid every other human being in existence because of the danger of Covid, particularly the danger that we might pass it to some geezer or someone with a geezer in the family. NOW we're supposed to believe Cuomo could put people who quite definitely had Covid in a closed environment with a bunch of geezers, and it's not really that dangerous?

Could someone explain to me why, then, the entire world is social-distancing and wearing face diapers?

1. The covid patients Cuomo sent back to the nursing homes were no longer contagious, according to the CDC.

2. The nursing homes had the option of refusing to take the patients back, if they lacked the resources to care for them.

3. The nursing homes are, by law, supposed to have isolation units for infectious diseases, with negative air pressure systems (when the doors open - air rushes in, not out).

4. LTC patients, do not do well in general hospital settings. Hospitals are poorly equipped to deal with eldercare or memory care. LTC facilities which specialize in such care have both the resources and the staff to ensure proper care for the elderly.

Personally, if I had a family member in LTC, I would have gotten them the fuck outta that home the moment we saw the nursing homes getting hit. One of my friends went to court to get her former MIL out of a home that already had cases. Ultimately, 74 people died in that nursing home. Her former MIL is now living happily with my friend, and their family. They all seem to be quarantining together. When this ends and we get back to living and working again, my friend will not be able to continue to care for her MIL. She travels extensively in her work - and is often out of the country for a month or more at a time, but until that happens, they will continue to care for her.

My DIL is a nurse at a "for profit" nursing care facility in the city where they live. They had cupboards full of PPE here. There were never shortages of PPE in Canada. At her home, the staff were told NOT to wear masks, or PPE, so not as to "frighten" the patients. And yes, there was a major outbreak at this home.

Yes, social distance and mask wearing works. It worked here, last spring, and combined with our post-Christmas lockdown, it's working again with our second wave: Our schools would have re-opened yesterday, if not for the Snow Day!!!

On an unrelated note, I am saddened and appalled that children and teachers are now required to attend e-learning classes on Snow Days. Snow Days spent at the hill behind the local high school football field with my friends toboganning, making snowmen, snow angels, snow forts, and having snowball fights, and then going home and my Mom making us hot chocolate, are some of the best childhood memories I have. Forcing children indoors to sit at a computer during a snow day is wrong on every level. I applaud those parents who played hooky from eclasses and built a snow fort in the front yard, took their kids ice fishing, tobogganing, or made a snowman.

1. The covid patients Cuomo sent back to the nursing homes were no longer contagious, according to the CDC.

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