Covid Vaccine question.

Why get the shot when you can still get covid? Simple question. Should be a simple answer. All these people getting the shot. WHY? You can still get it, whether you get the vaccine or not. So why do it???

Many people are ignorant and think the vaccine companies are there to help them, along with Big Pharma. I also have heard and excuse of someone I know saying "they are going to get it, because it will become mandatory anyway." Here is some data I would like to share that people should know:

“The most enduring myth regarding COVID-19,” the doctors wrote, “is that this is a highly lethal infection. It is not. The data is unequivocal:

COVID-19 kills very rarely and is mostly limited to the medically fragile,

COVID-19 is less deadly than influenza in children,

COVID-19 is similar lethality in the middle adult years and treatable.”

They went on to cite the Centers for Disease Control’s (CDC) own “best estimate” to demonstrate that the infection fatality rate (IFR) is overall very low:

0-19 years old: 0.00003 (99.997 percent survival rate)

20-49 years old: 0.0002 (99.98 percent survival rate)

50-69 years old: 0.005 (99.5 percent survival rate)

70+ years old: 0.054 (94.6 percent survival rate)

For the jab itself:

Brand new mRNA technology

First, what the doctors call the “largest experimental medication program in our history” uses a brand-new technology utilizing messenger RNA. “No vaccine” based on this technology “has ever been approved for any disease, or even entered final-stage trials until now, so there’s no peer-reviewed published human data to compare how mRNA stacks up against older technologies,” AFLD said.

No independently published animal studies

Further, previous coronavirus vaccines developed over decades have consistently failed in animal trials with the death of their subjects. Yet, these experimental vaccines have no independently published animal studies.

“Vaccine safety requires proper animal trials and peer-reviewed data,” the paper stated, “neither of which has occurred” with these experimental biological agents.

Recipient may become more vulnerable to virus

The AFLD White Paper stated that one of the greatest safety concerns relates to how “(p)rior coronavirus (and other respiratory) vaccines have failed due to the scientific phenomena known as pathogenic priming that makes the vaccine recipient more likely to suffer a sudden fatal outcome due to massive cytokine storm when exposed to the wild virus.”

Of note, current reports revealed that hundreds of individuals injected with COVID-19 experimental vaccines have been admitted to the hospital, and the shots have so far been linked to at least 181 deaths in the United States.

Neurological diseases, long-term effects

The paper listed many other possible complications, including neurological diseases, and cited from the “extremely limited COVID-19 vaccine data” instances of them already occurring.

Manufactures have no liability

Of great concern as well is the fact that the companies that produce these experimental biological agents “are immune from all liability” due to the 1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act. Therefore, those who are injured or even the families of those who suffer death due to these injections will have no claim on the manufacturers themselves.

Experimental vaccines are ‘not safer’ than the Wuhan Virus
AFLD then drew from common sense to conclude that taking an experimental vaccine “is not safer” than a very low IFR for the Wuhan Virus. Besides the “extraordinarily low” mortality rates, doctors are “getting better and better at treating COVID-19: the death rate in terms of population continues to fall, hospital stays for COVID-19 get shorter and hospital mortality from COVID-19 plummets.”

While not directly asserting that the experimental vaccines are unsafe, AFLD clarified that “We are saying that by definition it is unsafe to widely distribute an experimental vaccine, because taking a vaccine is completely different than taking an ordinary medication.”

“In contrast to taking a medication for an actual disease,” they explained, “the person who takes a vaccine is typically completely healthy and would continue to be healthy without the vaccine. As the first rule of the Hippocratic Oath is: do no harm, vaccine safety must be guaranteed. That has not yet happened.”


Full Story
Dr. Simone Gold, who has a history of spreading dubious claims about the pandemic, used misinformation to sow doubt about COVID-19 vaccines in a live-streamed Jan. 3 address at a Pentecostal church in Florida.
Video Uses Bogus Claims to Stoke Race-Based Fears of COVID-19 Vaccine - FactCheck.org

She is one of my hero's.


If you like a quack.


The real quack is Bill Gates that funds all this crap that censors real doctors, that aren't afraid to speak up. You really have taken the scam hook line and sinker, haven't you. You have earned the Sheeple award today P.

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well I don't believe in "God will heal you and keep you from getting covid".


I just take Vitamin D3 and Vitamin C, and I have worked around 100's that tested "positive" and I have never gotten it. In fact I rarely get sick. It has nothing to do about a god. It is about living a healthy lifestyle. Have you not heard of that? Taking your health in your own hands and not putting it in entities hands that want to make money off of you being sick.

And then you can even get deeper into how much of a fraud germ theory really is.


I take D3 and vit C also, but I still believe in getting vaccines.
Also I take Ocuvite and B complex.
 
Why get the shot when you can still get covid? Simple question. Should be a simple answer. All these people getting the shot. WHY? You can still get it, whether you get the vaccine or not. So why do it???
No vaccine prevents infection.
Vaccines simply build up your immune system so you can immediately start fighting it off.

You’re welcome.
 
Why get the shot when you can still get covid? Simple question. Should be a simple answer. All these people getting the shot. WHY? You can still get it, whether you get the vaccine or not. So why do it???
"Doctor recommended"
 
Next up. Airline mandate ? Walmart wont let you enter ? Drivers license ?
Bank transaction ? Mark of the beast ? C19=616 ?
 
Why get the shot when you can still get covid? Simple question. Should be a simple answer. All these people getting the shot. WHY? You can still get it, whether you get the vaccine or not. So why do it???

Many people are ignorant and think the vaccine companies are there to help them, along with Big Pharma. I also have heard and excuse of someone I know saying "they are going to get it, because it will become mandatory anyway." Here is some data I would like to share that people should know:

“The most enduring myth regarding COVID-19,” the doctors wrote, “is that this is a highly lethal infection. It is not. The data is unequivocal:

COVID-19 kills very rarely and is mostly limited to the medically fragile,

COVID-19 is less deadly than influenza in children,

COVID-19 is similar lethality in the middle adult years and treatable.”

They went on to cite the Centers for Disease Control’s (CDC) own “best estimate” to demonstrate that the infection fatality rate (IFR) is overall very low:

0-19 years old: 0.00003 (99.997 percent survival rate)

20-49 years old: 0.0002 (99.98 percent survival rate)

50-69 years old: 0.005 (99.5 percent survival rate)

70+ years old: 0.054 (94.6 percent survival rate)

For the jab itself:

Brand new mRNA technology

First, what the doctors call the “largest experimental medication program in our history” uses a brand-new technology utilizing messenger RNA. “No vaccine” based on this technology “has ever been approved for any disease, or even entered final-stage trials until now, so there’s no peer-reviewed published human data to compare how mRNA stacks up against older technologies,” AFLD said.

No independently published animal studies

Further, previous coronavirus vaccines developed over decades have consistently failed in animal trials with the death of their subjects. Yet, these experimental vaccines have no independently published animal studies.

“Vaccine safety requires proper animal trials and peer-reviewed data,” the paper stated, “neither of which has occurred” with these experimental biological agents.

Recipient may become more vulnerable to virus

The AFLD White Paper stated that one of the greatest safety concerns relates to how “(p)rior coronavirus (and other respiratory) vaccines have failed due to the scientific phenomena known as pathogenic priming that makes the vaccine recipient more likely to suffer a sudden fatal outcome due to massive cytokine storm when exposed to the wild virus.”

Of note, current reports revealed that hundreds of individuals injected with COVID-19 experimental vaccines have been admitted to the hospital, and the shots have so far been linked to at least 181 deaths in the United States.

Neurological diseases, long-term effects

The paper listed many other possible complications, including neurological diseases, and cited from the “extremely limited COVID-19 vaccine data” instances of them already occurring.

Manufactures have no liability

Of great concern as well is the fact that the companies that produce these experimental biological agents “are immune from all liability” due to the 1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act. Therefore, those who are injured or even the families of those who suffer death due to these injections will have no claim on the manufacturers themselves.

Experimental vaccines are ‘not safer’ than the Wuhan Virus
AFLD then drew from common sense to conclude that taking an experimental vaccine “is not safer” than a very low IFR for the Wuhan Virus. Besides the “extraordinarily low” mortality rates, doctors are “getting better and better at treating COVID-19: the death rate in terms of population continues to fall, hospital stays for COVID-19 get shorter and hospital mortality from COVID-19 plummets.”

While not directly asserting that the experimental vaccines are unsafe, AFLD clarified that “We are saying that by definition it is unsafe to widely distribute an experimental vaccine, because taking a vaccine is completely different than taking an ordinary medication.”

“In contrast to taking a medication for an actual disease,” they explained, “the person who takes a vaccine is typically completely healthy and would continue to be healthy without the vaccine. As the first rule of the Hippocratic Oath is: do no harm, vaccine safety must be guaranteed. That has not yet happened.”


Full Story
Dr. Simone Gold, who has a history of spreading dubious claims about the pandemic, used misinformation to sow doubt about COVID-19 vaccines in a live-streamed Jan. 3 address at a Pentecostal church in Florida.
Video Uses Bogus Claims to Stoke Race-Based Fears of COVID-19 Vaccine - FactCheck.org

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Why get the shot when you can still get covid? Simple question. Should be a simple answer. All these people getting the shot. WHY? You can still get it, whether you get the vaccine or not. So why do it???
No vaccine prevents infection.
Vaccines simply build up your immune system so you can immediately start fighting it off.

You’re welcome.
No thanks. You can have mine.
 
The 82 year old lady next door to me got the shot last week. She has been sick ever since she got it.

Again..hell no will I get it. Mandate it my ass..I will still refuse.
 
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Why get the shot when you can still get covid? Simple question. Should be a simple answer. All these people getting the shot. WHY? You can still get it, whether you get the vaccine or not. So why do it???
No vaccine prevents infection.
Vaccines simply build up your immune system so you can immediately start fighting it off.

You’re welcome.
No thanks. You can have mine.
No plans on taking this vaccine. Ever.
Issue was so many misunderstanding how vaccinations work.
 
It's an odds game.
A person has a much greater chance of surviving the Covid after they get the vaccine.
The odds are much lower that the vaccine itself will make a person sick.
 
tell me about all the polio, measles and mumps cases you see now? anti vacciners are such idiots
 
Why get the shot when you can still get covid? Simple question. Should be a simple answer. All these people getting the shot. WHY? You can still get it, whether you get the vaccine or not. So why do it???
No vaccine prevents infection.
Vaccines simply build up your immune system so you can immediately start fighting it off.

You’re welcome.

Actually, the way a vaccine works is
Why get the shot when you can still get covid? Simple question. Should be a simple answer. All these people getting the shot. WHY? You can still get it, whether you get the vaccine or not. So why do it???

One needs to realize that getting a vaccine is just introducing the virus into you body. Without regard for your natural defenses.

Personally, I have not had a flu shot in 50 years due to a violent reaction that I had. I also have not had the flue in the last 30 years. Considering these facts, why take the chance.

Am I getting the covid shot? Hell no.
 
Why get the shot when you can still get covid? Simple question. Should be a simple answer. All these people getting the shot. WHY? You can still get it, whether you get the vaccine or not. So why do it???
You can still get Ebola. Smallpox. Bubonic Plague. Just because you've had a vaccine won't stop the virus/bacteria from trying to take over your body. It doesn't know or care it will try to infect you anyway.
Having had the vaccine though you are far less likely to die or suffer a serious illness. Not enough of the virus can take over enough cells to make you any more than mildly sick.

That's why everyone needs to take the vaccine.

Simples!

Says one of the sheep.
 
Why get the shot when you can still get covid? Simple question. Should be a simple answer. All these people getting the shot. WHY? You can still get it, whether you get the vaccine or not. So why do it???
You can still get Ebola. Smallpox. Bubonic Plague. Just because you've had a vaccine won't stop the virus/bacteria from trying to take over your body. It doesn't know or care it will try to infect you anyway.
Having had the vaccine though you are far less likely to die or suffer a serious illness. Not enough of the virus can take over enough cells to make you any more than mildly sick.

That's why everyone needs to take the vaccine.

Simples!

Says one of the sheep.
Blah!!!
 
Why get the shot when you can still get covid? Simple question. Should be a simple answer. All these people getting the shot. WHY? You can still get it, whether you get the vaccine or not. So why do it???
You can still get Ebola. Smallpox. Bubonic Plague. Just because you've had a vaccine won't stop the virus/bacteria from trying to take over your body. It doesn't know or care it will try to infect you anyway.
Having had the vaccine though you are far less likely to die or suffer a serious illness. Not enough of the virus can take over enough cells to make you any more than mildly sick.

That's why everyone needs to take the vaccine.

Simples!

Says one of the sheep.
Blah!!!

That the best you can do? No facts, no argument, no rebuttal? Must be cozy in the world you live in, never having to think for yourself but just follow orders.
 
Why get the shot when you can still get covid? Simple question. Should be a simple answer. All these people getting the shot. WHY? You can still get it, whether you get the vaccine or not. So why do it???
You can still get Ebola. Smallpox. Bubonic Plague. Just because you've had a vaccine won't stop the virus/bacteria from trying to take over your body. It doesn't know or care it will try to infect you anyway.
Having had the vaccine though you are far less likely to die or suffer a serious illness. Not enough of the virus can take over enough cells to make you any more than mildly sick.

That's why everyone needs to take the vaccine.

Simples!

Says one of the sheep.
Blah!!!

That the best you can do? No facts, no argument, no rebuttal? Must be cozy in the world you live in, never having to think for yourself but just follow orders.
What are you blithering on about?
Gracie asked the question "What is the point of getting the Covid vaccine if you can still get infected after receiving it?"
I gave a full if concise answer.
So why are you accusing me of not saying anything? I must have said something or you couldn't have pressed the reply button.
Just for you who seems to have the memory of a sieve, I'll repeat my original reply so pay attention.

"You can still get Ebola. Smallpox. Bubonic Plague. J
Just because you've had a vaccine won't stop the virus/bacteria from trying to take over your body. It doesn't know or care it will try to infect you anyway.
Having had the vaccine though you are far less likely to die or suffer a serious illness. Not enough of the virus can take over enough cells to make you any more than mildly sick.

That's why everyone needs to take the vaccine."
 
Why get the shot when you can still get covid? Simple question. Should be a simple answer. All these people getting the shot. WHY? You can still get it, whether you get the vaccine or not. So why do it???
You can still get Ebola. Smallpox. Bubonic Plague. Just because you've had a vaccine won't stop the virus/bacteria from trying to take over your body. It doesn't know or care it will try to infect you anyway.
Having had the vaccine though you are far less likely to die or suffer a serious illness. Not enough of the virus can take over enough cells to make you any more than mildly sick.

That's why everyone needs to take the vaccine.

Simples!

Says one of the sheep.
Blah!!!

That the best you can do? No facts, no argument, no rebuttal? Must be cozy in the world you live in, never having to think for yourself but just follow orders.
What are you blithering on about?
Gracie asked the question "What is the point of getting the Covid vaccine if you can still get infected after receiving it?"
I gave a full if concise answer.
So why are you accusing me of not saying anything? I must have said something or you couldn't have pressed the reply button.
Just for you who seems to have the memory of a sieve, I'll repeat my original reply so pay attention.

"You can still get Ebola. Smallpox. Bubonic Plague. J
Just because you've had a vaccine won't stop the virus/bacteria from trying to take over your body. It doesn't know or care it will try to infect you anyway.
Having had the vaccine though you are far less likely to die or suffer a serious illness. Not enough of the virus can take over enough cells to make you any more than mildly sick.

That's why everyone needs to take the vaccine."

Did you even bother to read the post that I replied to?

It makes your above post seem to be what it is, BS.

The least you could do is acknowledge that what I quoted is about as lame of a post as there could possibly be. That, and demanding that everyone get this vaccine, a personal choice, makes you appear to be a Nazi in your demands.
 
Why get the shot when you can still get covid? Simple question. Should be a simple answer. All these people getting the shot. WHY? You can still get it, whether you get the vaccine or not. So why do it???
You can still get Ebola. Smallpox. Bubonic Plague. Just because you've had a vaccine won't stop the virus/bacteria from trying to take over your body. It doesn't know or care it will try to infect you anyway.
Having had the vaccine though you are far less likely to die or suffer a serious illness. Not enough of the virus can take over enough cells to make you any more than mildly sick.

That's why everyone needs to take the vaccine.

Simples!

Says one of the sheep.
Blah!!!

That the best you can do? No facts, no argument, no rebuttal? Must be cozy in the world you live in, never having to think for yourself but just follow orders.
What are you blithering on about?
Gracie asked the question "What is the point of getting the Covid vaccine if you can still get infected after receiving it?"
I gave a full if concise answer.
So why are you accusing me of not saying anything? I must have said something or you couldn't have pressed the reply button.
Just for you who seems to have the memory of a sieve, I'll repeat my original reply so pay attention.

"You can still get Ebola. Smallpox. Bubonic Plague. J
Just because you've had a vaccine won't stop the virus/bacteria from trying to take over your body. It doesn't know or care it will try to infect you anyway.
Having had the vaccine though you are far less likely to die or suffer a serious illness. Not enough of the virus can take over enough cells to make you any more than mildly sick.

That's why everyone needs to take the vaccine."

Did you even bother to read the post that I replied to?

It makes your above post seem to be what it is, BS.

The least you could do is acknowledge that what I quoted is about as lame of a post as there could possibly be. That, and demanding that everyone get this vaccine, a personal choice, makes you appear to be a Nazi in your demands.
"Did you even bother to read the post that I replied to?"

Look mate I appreciate your new here but you need to familiarise yourself with how it actually works. Your question makes no sense. You have replied to all three of my posts.
How could I not read them? - I fucking wrote them. Post #20 #34 #36

"The least you could do is acknowledge that what I quoted is about as lame of a post as there could possibly be".

Lame sheep? Big problemo! Ha ha ha

"That, and demanding that everyone get this vaccine, a personal choice, makes you appear to be a Nazi in your demands."

"No no not another Trumpster making yet another ridiculous 'Nazi' comparison.

Do you have even the slightest inkling of what the Nazi's actually did?

Of course taking the vaccine is a personal choice and in my reply to Gracie I didn't question that.
As I have already told you I simply answered her question as to the point of taking the vaccine if you can still get infected. That is that the vaccine (according to medical experts) reduces the risk of death down to mild or moderate illness.

Finally, I stated that for the reasons I'd given "Everyone needs to take the vaccine!"

How is that a Nazi demand? Its merely a strong recommendation

A Nazi demand would go something like.-

"Take the vaccine you Untermensch dog turd or we will come and after kicking seven bells of shit out of you we will gas your entire family and your entire town's rat people before raising it to the ground and then use your cremated corpses ashes as fertilizer!"

Now can you tell the difference?

I have now wasted 20 mins having to explain simple shit that I should not have needed to. I RECOMMEND that when posting in the future you avoid getting pissed or wired on crystal meth, but you have forced me to put you on the ;Potential Problem Poster List.
The ultimate penalty would be putting you on 'Ignore'. I have never had to do that so far so I hope your not going to be the first.
 
Why get the shot when you can still get covid? Simple question. Should be a simple answer. All these people getting the shot. WHY? You can still get it, whether you get the vaccine or not. So why do it???
You can still get Ebola. Smallpox. Bubonic Plague. Just because you've had a vaccine won't stop the virus/bacteria from trying to take over your body. It doesn't know or care it will try to infect you anyway.
Having had the vaccine though you are far less likely to die or suffer a serious illness. Not enough of the virus can take over enough cells to make you any more than mildly sick.

That's why everyone needs to take the vaccine.

Simples!

Says one of the sheep.
Blah!!!

That the best you can do? No facts, no argument, no rebuttal? Must be cozy in the world you live in, never having to think for yourself but just follow orders.
What are you blithering on about?
Gracie asked the question "What is the point of getting the Covid vaccine if you can still get infected after receiving it?"
I gave a full if concise answer.
So why are you accusing me of not saying anything? I must have said something or you couldn't have pressed the reply button.
Just for you who seems to have the memory of a sieve, I'll repeat my original reply so pay attention.

"You can still get Ebola. Smallpox. Bubonic Plague. J
Just because you've had a vaccine won't stop the virus/bacteria from trying to take over your body. It doesn't know or care it will try to infect you anyway.
Having had the vaccine though you are far less likely to die or suffer a serious illness. Not enough of the virus can take over enough cells to make you any more than mildly sick.

That's why everyone needs to take the vaccine."

Did you even bother to read the post that I replied to?

It makes your above post seem to be what it is, BS.

The least you could do is acknowledge that what I quoted is about as lame of a post as there could possibly be. That, and demanding that everyone get this vaccine, a personal choice, makes you appear to be a Nazi in your demands.
"Did you even bother to read the post that I replied to?"

Look mate I appreciate your new here but you need to familiarise yourself with how it actually works. Your question makes no sense. You have replied to all three of my posts.
How could I not read them? - I fucking wrote them. Post #20 #34 #36

"The least you could do is acknowledge that what I quoted is about as lame of a post as there could possibly be".

Lame sheep? Big problemo! Ha ha ha

"That, and demanding that everyone get this vaccine, a personal choice, makes you appear to be a Nazi in your demands."

"No no not another Trumpster making yet another ridiculous 'Nazi' comparison.

Do you have even the slightest inkling of what the Nazi's actually did?

Of course taking the vaccine is a personal choice and in my reply to Gracie I didn't question that.
As I have already told you I simply answered her question as to the point of taking the vaccine if you can still get infected. That is that the vaccine (according to medical experts) reduces the risk of death down to mild or moderate illness.

Finally, I stated that for the reasons I'd given "Everyone needs to take the vaccine!"

How is that a Nazi demand? Its merely a strong recommendation

A Nazi demand would go something like.-

"Take the vaccine you Untermensch dog turd or we will come and after kicking seven bells of shit out of you we will gas your entire family and your entire town's rat people before raising it to the ground and then use your cremated corpses ashes as fertilizer!"

Now can you tell the difference?

I have now wasted 20 mins having to explain simple shit that I should not have needed to. I RECOMMEND that when posting in the future you avoid getting pissed or wired on crystal meth, but you have forced me to put you on the ;Potential Problem Poster List.
The ultimate penalty would be putting you on 'Ignore'. I have never had to do that so far so I hope your not going to be the first.

You really have bought into the big brother taking total care of yourself and a total liberal outlook. that being that any failure is not your fault even as you fail.

BTW, if you have such a list as you claim, why in the world would that scare me? You must be the first 100 names on such a list and if you did, that would be a benefit to any on your "secret list". It would indicate that your would not write to me anymore. Why in the world you think of that as a punishment versus a reward?

G back into the orchestra pit and just disappear forever since all you do is lie about what is plainly printed in your posts.
 
#22: You are incorrect. The Pfizer vaccine prevents infection of the patient’s cells by precisely stabilizing the virus’s prefusion conformation, which is the penultimate step before it fuses to the host cell. The mRNA of Pfizer vaccine is deliberately mutated with prolines to accomplish this.
 

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