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If you didn't like the letter E would you not use it. If its American, and you claim to be American, then live like An American.
Well, since we said the pledge for 62 years without "under GOD" and have only been saying it for 56 years with "under GOD," I'd say that, based on those numbers, it's more "American" without "under GOD."
That makes as much sense as anything else...
Some around here are fond of saying we need to progress. Looks like 56 years ago we did. The courts say we still can. Some of you have God issues. Work them out without stepping on my Constitutional rights. Thanks.
Come back hjmick, to the present.
Oh I am very much living in the present. I am of the opinion that the phrase "under GOD" has served it's purpose. I am also of the opinion that it is past time to remove it from the Pledge.
And you moved here from what country?
Well, since we said the pledge for 62 years without "under GOD" and have only been saying it for 56 years with "under GOD," I'd say that, based on those numbers, it's more "American" without "under GOD."
That makes as much sense as anything else...
Our founding fathers did not want "under god" in the pledge..
Where are all of our fundamentalists?
Perhaps they choose not to bother because the Founding Fathers had nothing to do with the Pledge?
'The Ninth Circus, I believe the Right' oft calls it.I'm surprise no one pointed out the fact that this came from the 9th Circuit Court; a court that has been painted as a liberal-leaning court.
This should piss the so-called athiest off.
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- A federal appeals court in San Francisco upheld the use of the words "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance and "In God We Trust" on U.S. currency, rejecting arguments on Thursday that the phrases violate the separation of church and state.
The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals panel rejected two legal challenges by Sacramento atheist Michael Newdow, who claimed the references to God disrespect his religious beliefs.
"The Pledge is constitutional," Judge Carlos Bea wrote for the majority in the 2-1 ruling. "The Pledge of Allegiance serves to unite our vast nation through the proud recitation of some of the ideals upon which our Republic was founded."
The Facts
The pledge is a pledge to our nation.....
NOT to a god or religion.
I have no problem with reciting the pledge in schools but it should be the ORIGINAL PLEDGE with NO religous references.
I am sick of being under God.
For once I want to be on top.
Come on God, let's do existentialist sex.
☭proletarian☭;2088787 said:Oh I am very much living in the present. I am of the opinion that the phrase "under GOD" has served it's purpose. I am also of the opinion that it is past time to remove it from the Pledge.
And you moved here from what country?
Says the idiot claiming that parroting a pledge written by a socialist that originally made no mention of God is what makes one an American
☭proletarian☭;2088801 said:I am sick of being under God.
For once I want to be on top.
Come on God, let's do existentialist sex.
I wonder whether an existentialist or a nihilist would end up on top.
Although I suppose the two aren't mutually exclusive.
If you didn't like the letter E would you not use it. If its American, and you claim to be American, then live like An American.
Well, since we said the pledge for 62 years without "under GOD" and have only been saying it for 56 years with "under GOD," I'd say that, based on those numbers, it's more "American" without "under GOD."
That makes as much sense as anything else...
Our founding fathers did not want "under god" in the pledge..
Where are all of our fundamentalists?
God likes to always be on top.
God likes to always be on top.
You stupid ass troll!
☭proletarian☭;2088787 said:And you moved here from what country?
Says the idiot claiming that parroting a pledge written by a socialist that originally made no mention of God is what makes one an American
No you misquoter, i said the pledge was made better when "under God" was added. And if your claiming to be American, you should uphold american values and quit running it down.
This should piss the so-called athiest off.
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- A federal appeals court in San Francisco upheld the use of the words "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance and "In God We Trust" on U.S. currency, rejecting arguments on Thursday that the phrases violate the separation of church and state.
The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals panel rejected two legal challenges by Sacramento atheist Michael Newdow, who claimed the references to God disrespect his religious beliefs.
"The Pledge is constitutional," Judge Carlos Bea wrote for the majority in the 2-1 ruling. "The Pledge of Allegiance serves to unite our vast nation through the proud recitation of some of the ideals upon which our Republic was founded."
The Facts
Interesting posts.
How is that Atheists scream bloody murder over anything and everything religious because it imposes something horrendous on their civil rights and liberties, screws up their life, angers them, etc., ...
but they NEVER consider that trying on every level to eradicate religion altogether in this country imposes their will on the civil rights, liberties, etc. of people who do practice religion?
How does that square?
If you don't want to believe in God or go to church, fine. But don't try to destroy the ability of those who find comfort in believing in God and/or going to church.
Get a thicker skin. Consider this: no matter how much you do to force someone else to bend to your will, you will never be satisfied. There's always going to be something that people, the government, or whatever does or does not do that's going to be stuck in your craw to bitch about. No matter what you do it's never going to be enough because your search for this "perfect solution" will always elude you.
