Couldn't Have Said It Any Better

[Skull Pilot]

Saddling the next generation with massive debt -- chicagotribune.com

The Boomers are the worst generation.

Certainly, they would never call themselves that. As the title of a 2007 book written by a Baby Boomer brazenly proclaims, they're "The Greater Generation." I suppose the Boomer author can be excused for his excess of self-satisfaction, because Boomers are so loaded with smugness that it's oozing out their ears.

But surely someone who writes a book about them in another 40 or 50 years -- Tom Brokaw wrote his book "The Greatest Generation" decades after that generation's self-sacrifice preserved our freedom -- will brand them as perhaps the most selfish generation in American history. That author would accurately nail them for their greedy, miserable selves because he and hundreds of millions of others will be living in the cesspool of debt that they leave behind.

Every time you take a breath, President Barack Obama (he's on television more frequently than the weather forecast) is pushing through another costly program, rescue, bailout, giveaway -- whatever you want to call it -- that we can't afford to pay for ourselves. So, in a magical example of time travel, he -- we, I should say -- will deliver the bill to the future, with nary a thought of how the future will pay for it.

No need here for a tedious recounting of the huge, impossible debt that we're passing off; it has been outlined enough, but the figures seem to scare few. Our official national debt, the one you hear occasionally debated in Congress, is a sliver under $12 trillion. Sounds like a lot? Then get this: Our true national debt, when you include every cent of benefits promised to seniors, Baby Boomers and other entitled beneficiaries, amounts to nearly $62 trillion, according to the Northbrook-based Institute for Truth in Accounting. That's $202,000 for every man, woman and child in America. Our gift to future generations is the shaft. We could talk about how paying the interest on the national debt we now have is one of the largest items in the federal budget, already draining billions from all those education, welfare and other programs so dear to the progressive agenda. But future interest payments will gobble up so many of our resources that we won't be able to afford new cars, homes and the rest of the consumer cravings that fuel our economy. Our economy will be in shambles.

But wait, that $62 trillion doesn't even include the other trillions for the sugarplums dancing in Obama's head. The additional $1 trillion for health-insurance "reform." An additional trillion or so for the third stimulus package. What else, we can only imagine.

When they write about how the Boomers are the worst generation, my guess is the target won't be aimed at Obama so much. After all, he's just the frontman; wind him up and off he goes to another press conference, speech or town hall meeting to tell us how we're headed for hell if we don't do what he says. No one can spend that much time doing public relations and devote the amount of time needed to study the consequences of everything that he wants to stuff down our throats. No, someone else is his brain and that's his own version of Karl Rove -- White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel. Emanuel's cynical proclamation -- "you never want a serious crisis to go to waste" -- unveils the essence of this administration: its (read: Emanuel's) lust for power. The unborn be damned. This recession is not the worst since the Great Depression, as the administration and its media acolytes keep propagandizing. It's not even the worst since the one we survived in the early 1980s without the kind of insane spending we're doing now.

Truth is, we've become so frightened of bad things happening to us that we'll do anything, no matter how reckless, to avoid just the perception of risk. Our fear of discomfort or sacrifice is contemptible beyond description.

The Greatest Generation gave their lives so that we might enjoy our liberties and prosperity. We show our appreciation by imprisoning future Americans in a dungeon of debt from which they may never recover. Nowhere in the Obama/Emanuel blueprint is there even the slightest suggestion of how future generations will survive this mess. Not that they care, but, more important, there simply may not be a way to lift the burden. Mark this generation down as the most cowardly and irresponsible in America's history. Mark it down as the Shameless Generation.

That about sums it all up, folks.

We are now a people who would rather buy an i phone than health insurance for our kids.

We would rather buy the house with all the bells and whistles. God forbid we don't have a master suite or our kids have to share a bedroom all that matters is we have a BIG house and 2 new cars in the garage.

To hell with saving money for retirement and staying out of debt.

Why should we do these things when we can have the almighty benevolent government tax other people (you know those nasty evil rich people whose only crime is that they earn more) to pay our way.

What happened to sacrifice?

Used to be people did without unnecessary luxuries in order to have something greater later on. Now, if we don't have the latest greatest newest shiniest gadgets and baubles we are plagued with envy for those who do. Excess used to be considered shameful now the opposite is true.

What happened to pride?

When we took pride in making our own way and felt shame when we couldn't we were a better country. Sure we provided help for the truly needy, it was called relief back then and people were loathe to accept because of a personal set of ethics that prized self reliance above all. Today, we see government giveaways, as a right akin with freedom of speech.

What has happened to America?

 

[Xenophon]

Its the end result of social engineering.

If people had planned for their own future and had not have their money taken from them 'for their own good' we would not be in this fix.

As one of the last of the BBs, I agree, not only did we children of the WWII generation screw it up, we failed to teach those that came after us sound principles in handling money and society, so we leave behind poverty and near anarchy.

How very far we have fallen.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

Well both of the above posts are well reasoned and irrefutable...

I'd only add that what the left has created is unsustainable. Thus there is no means for the US Economy to survive, under the load of this parasitic socialist debt.

The examples of the end result of the same fiscal policy are everywhere... From individuals, through mega-corporations, to entire nations...

Where the principle-less consumption of debt has manifested itself, the entity which tries to bear the burden of past fiscal errors and sustain those errors through the bad decisions made as a result in the future; can NOT SURVIVE.

The individual, the corporation and even the nation must inevitably; go busted... and renew itself; assuming sufficient elements of who it realy is, survive to do so.

And THAT friends has long been the goal... Read the writings of the founders of ACORN and the like... They were hard core, unadultered Communists, who were intent on burying the US Economic system in life altering; culturual killing debt.

And it was their intent to use their means to manipulate the ignorant and the weak-minded to DEMAND government freebies through various fallacious arguments which stood on the dubious ground of "FAIRNESS."

In my opinion, such mindsets were in league with the Soviets of that day... They wanted to crush the notion of 'individual rights' and replace it with the ethereal illusion of 'collective rights'...

It has been a slow but deliberate subversion... where the masses of pawns, of course, were not setting in shadowy meetings with their manipulators... they simply; and quite willfully, bought into the fallacious notions of fairness; and advocated for such.

And while this subversion BEGAN in the early 20th century... Those of THAT generation could not be swayed... But THEIR CHILDREN accepted and tolerated it... << The WW2 Generation<< and THEIR Children EMBRACED IT! << the Boomers....<<


Now OUR CHILDREN... its to them to either destroy it... or through their failure to do so; set the nails in the US Coffin.

It is my sincere hope that My kids and their generation will recognize that what we've left them is JACK-SHIT! And that the reason is that we embraced the "Middle way'... the easier way... and that a culture cannot be sustained by such.

IF they do not... well As noted above, the United States government will simply get to a point where it can no longer sustain the house of cards built by the "Third Way..." and one of two things will result from the violent calamity which follows...

They will either return to a princpled framework which respects the individual's RIGHTS and DEMANDS the INDIVIDUAL TEND TO THEIR OWN RESPONSIBILITIES... OR...

They'll succumb to the illusion that the collective has rights and give all the power to the state to strip the individuals of their responsibilities; to defend the ethereal rights of that collective.

At which time, THEIR CHILDREN will begin to recognize that the monetary debt has been converted to something much MUCH WORSE... it's reverted back to "The Moral of the Story" wherein it is recognized that NO HUMAN BEING HAS A RIGHT TO EXERCISE THEIR RIGHTS TO THE DETRIMENT OF ANOTHER... And that where such principle is set aside; that culture, in so doing, sets aside the viability on which their freedom rests...

Perhaps, just perhaps they'll finally come to once again recognize that where an individual is FREE, he MUST carry the weight of his and her OWN Responsibility to sustain that freedom; that WHERE the RESPONSIBILITY GOES... so goes THE FREEDOM!

 

[editec]

We're not saddling the entire next generation with our debts.

Just most classes of it.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

We're not saddling the entire next generation with our debts.

Just most classes of it.

And thus we find one of those who has willfully bought into the delusion... They're no less guilty of the subversion than their Comrades... they're simply the tools...

They represent the sickle... which cuts the culture from it's roots... distinct from the hammer, but no less critical to the process.

 

[MaggieMae]

Saddling the next generation with massive debt -- chicagotribune.com

The Boomers are the worst generation.

Certainly, they would never call themselves that. As the title of a 2007 book written by a Baby Boomer brazenly proclaims, they're "The Greater Generation." I suppose the Boomer author can be excused for his excess of self-satisfaction, because Boomers are so loaded with smugness that it's oozing out their ears.

But surely someone who writes a book about them in another 40 or 50 years -- Tom Brokaw wrote his book "The Greatest Generation" decades after that generation's self-sacrifice preserved our freedom -- will brand them as perhaps the most selfish generation in American history. That author would accurately nail them for their greedy, miserable selves because he and hundreds of millions of others will be living in the cesspool of debt that they leave behind.

Every time you take a breath, President Barack Obama (he's on television more frequently than the weather forecast) is pushing through another costly program, rescue, bailout, giveaway -- whatever you want to call it -- that we can't afford to pay for ourselves. So, in a magical example of time travel, he -- we, I should say -- will deliver the bill to the future, with nary a thought of how the future will pay for it.

No need here for a tedious recounting of the huge, impossible debt that we're passing off; it has been outlined enough, but the figures seem to scare few. Our official national debt, the one you hear occasionally debated in Congress, is a sliver under $12 trillion. Sounds like a lot? Then get this: Our true national debt, when you include every cent of benefits promised to seniors, Baby Boomers and other entitled beneficiaries, amounts to nearly $62 trillion, according to the Northbrook-based Institute for Truth in Accounting. That's $202,000 for every man, woman and child in America. Our gift to future generations is the shaft. We could talk about how paying the interest on the national debt we now have is one of the largest items in the federal budget, already draining billions from all those education, welfare and other programs so dear to the progressive agenda. But future interest payments will gobble up so many of our resources that we won't be able to afford new cars, homes and the rest of the consumer cravings that fuel our economy. Our economy will be in shambles.

But wait, that $62 trillion doesn't even include the other trillions for the sugarplums dancing in Obama's head. The additional $1 trillion for health-insurance "reform." An additional trillion or so for the third stimulus package. What else, we can only imagine.

When they write about how the Boomers are the worst generation, my guess is the target won't be aimed at Obama so much. After all, he's just the frontman; wind him up and off he goes to another press conference, speech or town hall meeting to tell us how we're headed for hell if we don't do what he says. No one can spend that much time doing public relations and devote the amount of time needed to study the consequences of everything that he wants to stuff down our throats. No, someone else is his brain and that's his own version of Karl Rove -- White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel. Emanuel's cynical proclamation -- "you never want a serious crisis to go to waste" -- unveils the essence of this administration: its (read: Emanuel's) lust for power. The unborn be damned. This recession is not the worst since the Great Depression, as the administration and its media acolytes keep propagandizing. It's not even the worst since the one we survived in the early 1980s without the kind of insane spending we're doing now.

Truth is, we've become so frightened of bad things happening to us that we'll do anything, no matter how reckless, to avoid just the perception of risk. Our fear of discomfort or sacrifice is contemptible beyond description.

The Greatest Generation gave their lives so that we might enjoy our liberties and prosperity. We show our appreciation by imprisoning future Americans in a dungeon of debt from which they may never recover. Nowhere in the Obama/Emanuel blueprint is there even the slightest suggestion of how future generations will survive this mess. Not that they care, but, more important, there simply may not be a way to lift the burden. Mark this generation down as the most cowardly and irresponsible in America's history. Mark it down as the Shameless Generation.

That about sums it all up, folks.

We are now a people who would rather buy an i phone than health insurance for our kids.

We would rather buy the house with all the bells and whistles. God forbid we don't have a master suite or our kids have to share a bedroom all that matters is we have a BIG house and 2 new cars in the garage.

To hell with saving money for retirement and staying out of debt.

Why should we do these things when we can have the almighty benevolent government tax other people (you know those nasty evil rich people whose only crime is that they earn more) to pay our way.

What happened to sacrifice?

Used to be people did without unnecessary luxuries in order to have something greater later on. Now, if we don't have the latest greatest newest shiniest gadgets and baubles we are plagued with envy for those who do. Excess used to be considered shameful now the opposite is true.

What happened to pride?

When we took pride in making our own way and felt shame when we couldn't we were a better country. Sure we provided help for the truly needy, it was called relief back then and people were loathe to accept because of a personal set of ethics that prized self reliance above all. Today, we see government giveaways, as a right akin with freedom of speech.

What has happened to America?

I'm shocked. I actually agree with you for once, and I'm impressed by your sudden burst of wisdom. The article and your comments reflect the feeling of all of us "Brokaw" generationists.

 

[MaggieMae]

Well both of the above posts are well reasoned and irrefutable...

I'd only add that what the left has created is unsustainable. Thus there is no means for the US Economy to survive, under the load of this parasitic socialist debt.

The examples of the end result of the same fiscal policy are everywhere... From individuals, through mega-corporations, to entire nations...

Where the principle-less consumption of debt has manifested itself, the entity which tries to bear the burden of past fiscal errors and sustain those errors through the bad decisions made as a result in the future; can NOT SURVIVE.

The individual, the corporation and even the nation must inevitably; go busted... and renew itself; assuming sufficient elements of who it realy is, survive to do so.

And THAT friends has long been the goal... Read the writings of the founders of ACORN and the like... They were hard core, unadultered Communists, who were intent on burying the US Economic system in life altering; culturual killing debt.

And it was their intent to use their means to manipulate the ignorant and the weak-minded to DEMAND government freebies through various fallacious arguments which stood on the dubious ground of "FAIRNESS."

In my opinion, such mindsets were in league with the Soviets of that day... They wanted to crush the notion of 'individual rights' and replace it with the ethereal illusion of 'collective rights'...

It has been a slow but deliberate subversion... where the masses of pawns, of course, were not setting in shadowy meetings with their manipulators... they simply; and quite willfully, bought into the fallacious notions of fairness; and advocated for such.

And while this subversion BEGAN in the early 20th century... Those of THAT generation could not be swayed... But THEIR CHILDREN accepted and tolerated it... << The WW2 Generation<< and THEIR Children EMBRACED IT! << the Boomers....<<


Now OUR CHILDREN... its to them to either destroy it... or through their failure to do so; set the nails in the US Coffin.

It is my sincere hope that My kids and their generation will recognize that what we've left them is JACK-SHIT! And that the reason is that we embraced the "Middle way'... the easier way... and that a culture cannot be sustained by such.

IF they do not... well As noted above, the United States government will simply get to a point where it can no longer sustain the house of cards built by the "Third Way..." and one of two things will result from the violent calamity which follows...

They will either return to a princpled framework which respects the individual's RIGHTS and DEMANDS the INDIVIDUAL TEND TO THEIR OWN RESPONSIBILITIES... OR...

They'll succumb to the illusion that the collective has rights and give all the power to the state to strip the individuals of their responsibilities; to defend the ethereal rights of that collective.

At which time, THEIR CHILDREN will begin to recognize that the monetary debt has been converted to something much MUCH WORSE... it's reverted back to "The Moral of the Story" wherein it is recognized that NO HUMAN BEING HAS A RIGHT TO EXERCISE THEIR RIGHTS TO THE DETRIMENT OF ANOTHER... And that where such principle is set aside; that culture, in so doing, sets aside the viability on which their freedom rests...

Perhaps, just perhaps they'll finally come to once against recognize that where an individual is FREE, he MUST carry the weight of his and her OWN Responsibility to sustain that freedom; that WHERE the RESPONSIBILITY GOES... so goes THE FREEDOM!

Your "wisdom" on the other hand is nothing more than predictable partisan bullshit.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Saddling the next generation with massive debt -- chicagotribune.com

The Boomers are the worst generation.

Certainly, they would never call themselves that. As the title of a 2007 book written by a Baby Boomer brazenly proclaims, they're "The Greater Generation." I suppose the Boomer author can be excused for his excess of self-satisfaction, because Boomers are so loaded with smugness that it's oozing out their ears.

But surely someone who writes a book about them in another 40 or 50 years -- Tom Brokaw wrote his book "The Greatest Generation" decades after that generation's self-sacrifice preserved our freedom -- will brand them as perhaps the most selfish generation in American history. That author would accurately nail them for their greedy, miserable selves because he and hundreds of millions of others will be living in the cesspool of debt that they leave behind.

Every time you take a breath, President Barack Obama (he's on television more frequently than the weather forecast) is pushing through another costly program, rescue, bailout, giveaway -- whatever you want to call it -- that we can't afford to pay for ourselves. So, in a magical example of time travel, he -- we, I should say -- will deliver the bill to the future, with nary a thought of how the future will pay for it.

No need here for a tedious recounting of the huge, impossible debt that we're passing off; it has been outlined enough, but the figures seem to scare few. Our official national debt, the one you hear occasionally debated in Congress, is a sliver under $12 trillion. Sounds like a lot? Then get this: Our true national debt, when you include every cent of benefits promised to seniors, Baby Boomers and other entitled beneficiaries, amounts to nearly $62 trillion, according to the Northbrook-based Institute for Truth in Accounting. That's $202,000 for every man, woman and child in America. Our gift to future generations is the shaft. We could talk about how paying the interest on the national debt we now have is one of the largest items in the federal budget, already draining billions from all those education, welfare and other programs so dear to the progressive agenda. But future interest payments will gobble up so many of our resources that we won't be able to afford new cars, homes and the rest of the consumer cravings that fuel our economy. Our economy will be in shambles.

But wait, that $62 trillion doesn't even include the other trillions for the sugarplums dancing in Obama's head. The additional $1 trillion for health-insurance "reform." An additional trillion or so for the third stimulus package. What else, we can only imagine.

When they write about how the Boomers are the worst generation, my guess is the target won't be aimed at Obama so much. After all, he's just the frontman; wind him up and off he goes to another press conference, speech or town hall meeting to tell us how we're headed for hell if we don't do what he says. No one can spend that much time doing public relations and devote the amount of time needed to study the consequences of everything that he wants to stuff down our throats. No, someone else is his brain and that's his own version of Karl Rove -- White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel. Emanuel's cynical proclamation -- "you never want a serious crisis to go to waste" -- unveils the essence of this administration: its (read: Emanuel's) lust for power. The unborn be damned. This recession is not the worst since the Great Depression, as the administration and its media acolytes keep propagandizing. It's not even the worst since the one we survived in the early 1980s without the kind of insane spending we're doing now.

Truth is, we've become so frightened of bad things happening to us that we'll do anything, no matter how reckless, to avoid just the perception of risk. Our fear of discomfort or sacrifice is contemptible beyond description.

The Greatest Generation gave their lives so that we might enjoy our liberties and prosperity. We show our appreciation by imprisoning future Americans in a dungeon of debt from which they may never recover. Nowhere in the Obama/Emanuel blueprint is there even the slightest suggestion of how future generations will survive this mess. Not that they care, but, more important, there simply may not be a way to lift the burden. Mark this generation down as the most cowardly and irresponsible in America's history. Mark it down as the Shameless Generation.

That about sums it all up, folks.

We are now a people who would rather buy an i phone than health insurance for our kids.

We would rather buy the house with all the bells and whistles. God forbid we don't have a master suite or our kids have to share a bedroom all that matters is we have a BIG house and 2 new cars in the garage.

To hell with saving money for retirement and staying out of debt.

Why should we do these things when we can have the almighty benevolent government tax other people (you know those nasty evil rich people whose only crime is that they earn more) to pay our way.

What happened to sacrifice?

Used to be people did without unnecessary luxuries in order to have something greater later on. Now, if we don't have the latest greatest newest shiniest gadgets and baubles we are plagued with envy for those who do. Excess used to be considered shameful now the opposite is true.

What happened to pride?

When we took pride in making our own way and felt shame when we couldn't we were a better country. Sure we provided help for the truly needy, it was called relief back then and people were loathe to accept because of a personal set of ethics that prized self reliance above all. Today, we see government giveaways, as a right akin with freedom of speech.

What has happened to America?

I'm shocked. I actually agree with you for once, and I'm impressed by your sudden burst of wisdom. The article and your comments reflect the feeling of all of us "Brokaw" generationists.

it's the same thing I've been saying all along.

i am shocked that you finally started to listen

 

[MaggieMae]

Saddling the next generation with massive debt -- chicagotribune.com


That about sums it all up, folks.

We are now a people who would rather buy an i phone than health insurance for our kids.

We would rather buy the house with all the bells and whistles. God forbid we don't have a master suite or our kids have to share a bedroom all that matters is we have a BIG house and 2 new cars in the garage.

To hell with saving money for retirement and staying out of debt.

Why should we do these things when we can have the almighty benevolent government tax other people (you know those nasty evil rich people whose only crime is that they earn more) to pay our way.

What happened to sacrifice?

Used to be people did without unnecessary luxuries in order to have something greater later on. Now, if we don't have the latest greatest newest shiniest gadgets and baubles we are plagued with envy for those who do. Excess used to be considered shameful now the opposite is true.

What happened to pride?

When we took pride in making our own way and felt shame when we couldn't we were a better country. Sure we provided help for the truly needy, it was called relief back then and people were loathe to accept because of a personal set of ethics that prized self reliance above all. Today, we see government giveaways, as a right akin with freedom of speech.

What has happened to America?

I'm shocked. I actually agree with you for once, and I'm impressed by your sudden burst of wisdom. The article and your comments reflect the feeling of all of us "Brokaw" generationists.

it's the same thing I've been saying all along.

i am shocked that you finally started to listen

Admittedly I don't get to see all your writings. I must be unfortunate enough to only hit on those where you're selectively ranting and blaming.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

Well both of the above posts are well reasoned and irrefutable...

I'd only add that what the left has created is unsustainable. Thus there is no means for the US Economy to survive, under the load of this parasitic socialist debt.

The examples of the end result of the same fiscal policy are everywhere... From individuals, through mega-corporations, to entire nations...

Where the principle-less consumption of debt has manifested itself, the entity which tries to bear the burden of past fiscal errors and sustain those errors through the bad decisions made as a result in the future; can NOT SURVIVE.

The individual, the corporation and even the nation must inevitably; go busted... and renew itself; assuming sufficient elements of who it realy is, survive to do so.

And THAT friends has long been the goal... Read the writings of the founders of ACORN and the like... They were hard core, unadultered Communists, who were intent on burying the US Economic system in life altering; culturual killing debt.

And it was their intent to use their means to manipulate the ignorant and the weak-minded to DEMAND government freebies through various fallacious arguments which stood on the dubious ground of "FAIRNESS."

In my opinion, such mindsets were in league with the Soviets of that day... They wanted to crush the notion of 'individual rights' and replace it with the ethereal illusion of 'collective rights'...

It has been a slow but deliberate subversion... where the masses of pawns, of course, were not setting in shadowy meetings with their manipulators... they simply; and quite willfully, bought into the fallacious notions of fairness; and advocated for such.

And while this subversion BEGAN in the early 20th century... Those of THAT generation could not be swayed... But THEIR CHILDREN accepted and tolerated it... << The WW2 Generation<< and THEIR Children EMBRACED IT! << the Boomers....<<


Now OUR CHILDREN... its to them to either destroy it... or through their failure to do so; set the nails in the US Coffin.

It is my sincere hope that My kids and their generation will recognize that what we've left them is JACK-SHIT! And that the reason is that we embraced the "Middle way'... the easier way... and that a culture cannot be sustained by such.

IF they do not... well As noted above, the United States government will simply get to a point where it can no longer sustain the house of cards built by the "Third Way..." and one of two things will result from the violent calamity which follows...

They will either return to a princpled framework which respects the individual's RIGHTS and DEMANDS the INDIVIDUAL TEND TO THEIR OWN RESPONSIBILITIES... OR...

They'll succumb to the illusion that the collective has rights and give all the power to the state to strip the individuals of their responsibilities; to defend the ethereal rights of that collective.

At which time, THEIR CHILDREN will begin to recognize that the monetary debt has been converted to something much MUCH WORSE... it's reverted back to "The Moral of the Story" wherein it is recognized that NO HUMAN BEING HAS A RIGHT TO EXERCISE THEIR RIGHTS TO THE DETRIMENT OF ANOTHER... And that where such principle is set aside; that culture, in so doing, sets aside the viability on which their freedom rests...

Perhaps, just perhaps they'll finally come to once against recognize that where an individual is FREE, he MUST carry the weight of his and her OWN Responsibility to sustain that freedom; that WHERE the RESPONSIBILITY GOES... so goes THE FREEDOM!

Your "wisdom" on the other hand is nothing more than predictable partisan bullshit.

Partisan?

ROFLMNAO...

But I doubt anyone noticed that you were unable to contests a single point...


So don't sweat it...

 

[MaggieMae]

Well both of the above posts are well reasoned and irrefutable...

I'd only add that what the left has created is unsustainable. Thus there is no means for the US Economy to survive, under the load of this parasitic socialist debt.

The examples of the end result of the same fiscal policy are everywhere... From individuals, through mega-corporations, to entire nations...

Where the principle-less consumption of debt has manifested itself, the entity which tries to bear the burden of past fiscal errors and sustain those errors through the bad decisions made as a result in the future; can NOT SURVIVE.

The individual, the corporation and even the nation must inevitably; go busted... and renew itself; assuming sufficient elements of who it realy is, survive to do so.

And THAT friends has long been the goal... Read the writings of the founders of ACORN and the like... They were hard core, unadultered Communists, who were intent on burying the US Economic system in life altering; culturual killing debt.

And it was their intent to use their means to manipulate the ignorant and the weak-minded to DEMAND government freebies through various fallacious arguments which stood on the dubious ground of "FAIRNESS."

In my opinion, such mindsets were in league with the Soviets of that day... They wanted to crush the notion of 'individual rights' and replace it with the ethereal illusion of 'collective rights'...

It has been a slow but deliberate subversion... where the masses of pawns, of course, were not setting in shadowy meetings with their manipulators... they simply; and quite willfully, bought into the fallacious notions of fairness; and advocated for such.

And while this subversion BEGAN in the early 20th century... Those of THAT generation could not be swayed... But THEIR CHILDREN accepted and tolerated it... << The WW2 Generation<< and THEIR Children EMBRACED IT! << the Boomers....<<


Now OUR CHILDREN... its to them to either destroy it... or through their failure to do so; set the nails in the US Coffin.

It is my sincere hope that My kids and their generation will recognize that what we've left them is JACK-SHIT! And that the reason is that we embraced the "Middle way'... the easier way... and that a culture cannot be sustained by such.

IF they do not... well As noted above, the United States government will simply get to a point where it can no longer sustain the house of cards built by the "Third Way..." and one of two things will result from the violent calamity which follows...

They will either return to a princpled framework which respects the individual's RIGHTS and DEMANDS the INDIVIDUAL TEND TO THEIR OWN RESPONSIBILITIES... OR...

They'll succumb to the illusion that the collective has rights and give all the power to the state to strip the individuals of their responsibilities; to defend the ethereal rights of that collective.

At which time, THEIR CHILDREN will begin to recognize that the monetary debt has been converted to something much MUCH WORSE... it's reverted back to "The Moral of the Story" wherein it is recognized that NO HUMAN BEING HAS A RIGHT TO EXERCISE THEIR RIGHTS TO THE DETRIMENT OF ANOTHER... And that where such principle is set aside; that culture, in so doing, sets aside the viability on which their freedom rests...

Perhaps, just perhaps they'll finally come to once against recognize that where an individual is FREE, he MUST carry the weight of his and her OWN Responsibility to sustain that freedom; that WHERE the RESPONSIBILITY GOES... so goes THE FREEDOM!

Your "wisdom" on the other hand is nothing more than predictable partisan bullshit.

Partisan?

ROFLMNAO...

But I doubt anyone noticed that you were unable to contests a single point...


So don't sweat it...

I gave up trying to 'debate' anything with you a long time ago. One-third rant, two-thirds plagiarized history lessons. BORRRRRRRRRRING......

 

[Oddball]

We're not saddling the entire next generation with our debts.

Just most classes of it.

Nobody escapes a collapsed dollar.....Nobody.

 

[MaggieMae]

Your "wisdom" on the other hand is nothing more than predictable partisan bullshit.

Partisan?

ROFLMNAO...

But I doubt anyone noticed that you were unable to contests a single point...


So don't sweat it...

I gave up trying to 'debate' anything with you a long time ago. One-third rant, two-thirds plagiarized history lessons. BORRRRRRRRRRING......

Oops, I got you mixed up with Political Chic. Make that all rant^ and no lessons.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

Your "wisdom" on the other hand is nothing more than predictable partisan bullshit.

Partisan?

ROFLMNAO...

But I doubt anyone noticed that you were unable to contests a single point...


So don't sweat it...

I gave up trying to 'debate' anything with you... ......

LOL...

Total, indisputable VICTORY!...

Which is all anyone should need to recognize just how pathetic the full scope of the ideological left is...

It would be a mistake to presume that this concession, by this leftists is any different from any other leftist on earth.... The BOY King and the full scope of his cabinet, the full legal staff at the ACLU and the scope of the left side of the US Federal judiciary would fair no better in debate with an American than this nimrod has...

Most simply choose to avoid such debates without admitting they're incapable of sustaining their most closely held feelings... as this one has.

ROFL...


Leftists....

 

[Article 15]

Total, indisputable VICTORY!...

Purposefully taking stuff out of context is a form of masturbation to you, isn't it?

 

[Sinatra]

And what of all the Boomers now going into the already bankrupted Social Security system?

Ah, the payment on that will be left to Gen X and Gen Y - who might very well see their contributions gone by the time they reach what will likely be a government mandated full benefits retirement age of about 85 years of age - if any funds are even left for us after the Boomers that is.

Yes, let government take your money from you and redistribute to a generation of Americans who have, with much gleeful participation, overseen the moral and emotional decline of a nation.

Bummer.

 

[rhodescholar]

That about sums it all up, folks. We are now a people who would rather buy an i phone than health insurance for our kids. We would rather buy the house with all the bells and whistles. God forbid we don't have a master suite or our kids have to share a bedroom all that matters is we have a BIG house and 2 new cars in the garage. To hell with saving money for retirement and staying out of debt.

And I was all ready to splurge on an expensive new watch - you ruined my appetite!

Damn that, I'm going shopping to relieve my frustration over your post....

 

[rhodescholar]

And what of all the Boomers now going into the already bankrupted Social Security system?

Ah, the payment on that will be left to Gen X and Gen Y - who might very well see their contributions gone by the time they reach what will likely be a government mandated full benefits retirement age of about 85 years of age - if any funds are even left for us after the Boomers that is.

Yes, let government take your money from you and redistribute to a generation of Americans who have, with much gleeful participation, overseen the moral and emotional decline of a nation. Bummer.

We can always do what Europe did/is doing, import huge numbers of muzlimmers to add into the work force and pay into a social safety net that allows for a 35-hour workweek, and full retirement wages at age 45, kind of like a public worker in NYC...

How come when I complained about this back here, no one agreed with me?

http://www.usmessageboard.com/conspiracy-theories/80740-the-coming-civil-war-in-the-us.html

 

[Harry Dresden]

Saddling the next generation with massive debt -- chicagotribune.com

The Boomers are the worst generation.

Certainly, they would never call themselves that. As the title of a 2007 book written by a Baby Boomer brazenly proclaims, they're "The Greater Generation." I suppose the Boomer author can be excused for his excess of self-satisfaction, because Boomers are so loaded with smugness that it's oozing out their ears.

But surely someone who writes a book about them in another 40 or 50 years -- Tom Brokaw wrote his book "The Greatest Generation" decades after that generation's self-sacrifice preserved our freedom -- will brand them as perhaps the most selfish generation in American history. That author would accurately nail them for their greedy, miserable selves because he and hundreds of millions of others will be living in the cesspool of debt that they leave behind.

Every time you take a breath, President Barack Obama (he's on television more frequently than the weather forecast) is pushing through another costly program, rescue, bailout, giveaway -- whatever you want to call it -- that we can't afford to pay for ourselves. So, in a magical example of time travel, he -- we, I should say -- will deliver the bill to the future, with nary a thought of how the future will pay for it.

No need here for a tedious recounting of the huge, impossible debt that we're passing off; it has been outlined enough, but the figures seem to scare few. Our official national debt, the one you hear occasionally debated in Congress, is a sliver under $12 trillion. Sounds like a lot? Then get this: Our true national debt, when you include every cent of benefits promised to seniors, Baby Boomers and other entitled beneficiaries, amounts to nearly $62 trillion, according to the Northbrook-based Institute for Truth in Accounting. That's $202,000 for every man, woman and child in America. Our gift to future generations is the shaft. We could talk about how paying the interest on the national debt we now have is one of the largest items in the federal budget, already draining billions from all those education, welfare and other programs so dear to the progressive agenda. But future interest payments will gobble up so many of our resources that we won't be able to afford new cars, homes and the rest of the consumer cravings that fuel our economy. Our economy will be in shambles.

But wait, that $62 trillion doesn't even include the other trillions for the sugarplums dancing in Obama's head. The additional $1 trillion for health-insurance "reform." An additional trillion or so for the third stimulus package. What else, we can only imagine.

When they write about how the Boomers are the worst generation, my guess is the target won't be aimed at Obama so much. After all, he's just the frontman; wind him up and off he goes to another press conference, speech or town hall meeting to tell us how we're headed for hell if we don't do what he says. No one can spend that much time doing public relations and devote the amount of time needed to study the consequences of everything that he wants to stuff down our throats. No, someone else is his brain and that's his own version of Karl Rove -- White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel. Emanuel's cynical proclamation -- "you never want a serious crisis to go to waste" -- unveils the essence of this administration: its (read: Emanuel's) lust for power. The unborn be damned. This recession is not the worst since the Great Depression, as the administration and its media acolytes keep propagandizing. It's not even the worst since the one we survived in the early 1980s without the kind of insane spending we're doing now.

Truth is, we've become so frightened of bad things happening to us that we'll do anything, no matter how reckless, to avoid just the perception of risk. Our fear of discomfort or sacrifice is contemptible beyond description.

The Greatest Generation gave their lives so that we might enjoy our liberties and prosperity. We show our appreciation by imprisoning future Americans in a dungeon of debt from which they may never recover. Nowhere in the Obama/Emanuel blueprint is there even the slightest suggestion of how future generations will survive this mess. Not that they care, but, more important, there simply may not be a way to lift the burden. Mark this generation down as the most cowardly and irresponsible in America's history. Mark it down as the Shameless Generation.

That about sums it all up, folks.

We are now a people who would rather buy an i phone than health insurance for our kids.

We would rather buy the house with all the bells and whistles. God forbid we don't have a master suite or our kids have to share a bedroom all that matters is we have a BIG house and 2 new cars in the garage.

To hell with saving money for retirement and staying out of debt.

Why should we do these things when we can have the almighty benevolent government tax other people (you know those nasty evil rich people whose only crime is that they earn more) to pay our way.

What happened to sacrifice?

Used to be people did without unnecessary luxuries in order to have something greater later on. Now, if we don't have the latest greatest newest shiniest gadgets and baubles we are plagued with envy for those who do. Excess used to be considered shameful now the opposite is true.

What happened to pride?

When we took pride in making our own way and felt shame when we couldn't we were a better country. Sure we provided help for the truly needy, it was called relief back then and people were loathe to accept because of a personal set of ethics that prized self reliance above all. Today, we see government giveaways, as a right akin with freedom of speech.

What has happened to America?

where i deliver mail there are MANY people who live a lifestyle they cant afford and they are now struggling to make ends meet....but they seem to insist on living that lifestyle come hell or highwater....much of it seems to be because of image....

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

And what of all the Boomers now going into the already bankrupted Social Security system?

Ah, the payment on that will be left to Gen X and Gen Y - who might very well see their contributions gone by the time they reach what will likely be a government mandated full benefits retirement age of about 85 years of age - if any funds are even left for us after the Boomers that is.

Yes, let government take your money from you and redistribute to a generation of Americans who have, with much gleeful participation, overseen the moral and emotional decline of a nation.

Bummer.

Oh man... there's absolutely nothing to worry about there... with Pelosi/Reid Care... X and Y will be self terminating at 70 MAX...

Around 55 they'll begin the 'end of life counseling' and somewhere along the way, the Dr. Kovorkian's of their day (Presently just a twinkle in Grandma's eye...) will prescribe a lovely dose of some 'end of life' helper-outer and VIOLA! Problem solved....

And you were worried that decades of infanticide would result in a cultural catastrophe...

You gotta lighten up man... it'll all work itself out; this is SCIENCE!