Could U.S. leave NATO in exchange for ending Ukraine War?

[rightwinger]

As long as the US isn't stuck footing the bill. That's all Trump wanted, was for nations to pay their fair share, but for the fact that NATO doesn't protect the US in the short term, it protects those in Russia's immediate vicinity. If they are the ones getting the huge majority of the benefit, then they should be paying the huge majority of the costs. 2% across the board is not fair to the US as we don't get most of the benefit and many of the countries weren't even anteing up their 2%.

Trump is a moron
The only thing that matters to him is money

He doesn’t care about NATOs mission, potential threats, coordination of powers……all he cares about is who pays what and whine that he is being cheated

 

[Independent thinker]

Trump is a moron
The only thing that matters to him is money

He doesn’t care about NATOs mission, potential threats, coordination of powers……all he cares about is who pays what and whine that he is being cheated

LOL. Don't seem to understand that most Americans are against the big money in politics of both establishment parties, do you? I particularly love how Bernie rails against the one percenters while being one himself.

 

[Ralph Norton]

How about this deal? Lets tell Putin he has 30 days to remove his army from Ukraine or the United states will nuke Moscow off the face of the planet 30 seconds after the deadline. We're not fucking around anymore.

Why do people think you're an idiot?

 

[rightwinger]

LOL. Don't seem to understand that most Americans are against the big money in politics of both establishment parties, do you? I particularly love how Bernie rails against the one percenters while being one himself.

Bernie is far from being a one percenter

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

How about this deal? Lets tell Putin he has 30 days to remove his army from Ukraine or the United states will nuke Moscow off the face of the planet 30 seconds after the deadline. We're not fucking around anymore.

You are aware that Russia has as many nukes as we do ?

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Bernie is far from being a one percenter

He is still a millionaire socialist and like all of the elite on the left a flaming hypocrite.

 

[Independent thinker]

Bernie is far from being a one percenter

LOL. I see he has been out lately promoting his book on socialism while collecting capitalistic royalties from it which help him pay for his two multimillion dollar homes.

 

[rightwinger]

LOL. I see he has been out lately promoting his book on socialism while collecting capitalistic royalties from it which help him pay for his two multimillion dollar homes.

One percenters don’t have to write books

 

[Moonglow]

The Ruskies could join MATO and work on cooperation instead of conquering.

 

[Moonglow]

LOL. I see he has been out lately promoting his book on socialism while collecting capitalistic royalties from it which help him pay for his two multimillion dollar homes.

One home was inherited.

 

[AsherN]

I wouldn't tie it to Russia, but NATO nations get 1 year to meet their budgetary goals or we're out. Any future NATO anything is cost shared on a scale based on each nation's GDP. We should be long done funding the security of, and sending our people to die for, every nation state in NATO or one that is strategic, such as this Ukraine debacle.

This is one issue Trump was dead nuts right on.

Aside from the fact that the only time anybody sent people to die on the request of a NATO ally invoking Article 5 was the rest of NATO coming to the US' aid after 9-11.

 

[gipper]

I am informed, and he most certainly invaded Ukraine and killed Ukrainians relentlessly, systematically, without thought or reason...genocide...

You support that....?

Foolish. You’ve been duped.

The war started in 2014 after O and Nuland’s coup and the Ukrainian army attacked Russians in the Donbas.

Putin has treaded very lightly in this war. Had he done like the US military, Kiev would be in ruins with a million dead civilians.

Stop accepting CIA controlled media. GET INFORMED.

 

[Lesh]

Maybe Russia leaves some or all of its current territory in Ukraine, too. That could possibly be negotiated. Trump's comment that he could end the war in 24 hours made me think this might be the most likely avenue for that. The U.S. could still do whatever it wants regarding defending European countries, while maybe it strikes a sense of urgency into Europe to take care of itself. I'm curious to read people's thoughts on that.

Putin would love that

 

[Independent thinker]

One home was inherited.

LOL. Yeah, and it isn't really Bernie who is richer than snot, it is his wife.

 

[rightwinger]

LOL. Yeah, and it isn't really Bernie who is richer than snot, it is his wife.

Not really
For most of his political career, Bernie Sanders made a modest living. Once he got a following, he started making money on books and speaking engagements

Compared to other Senators, he is far from wealthy

Raise your hands for the 10 Richest Senators of America

A large number of American Senators trade in stocks or come from financially strong backgrounds. Which of these, have accumulated the most wealth over the years?

www.2iqresearch.com

 

[Fueri]

Aside from the fact that the only time anybody sent people to die on the request of a NATO ally invoking Article 5 was the rest of NATO coming to the US' aid after 9-11.

Aside from the fact that NATO is considering massing 300,000 troops on the Russian border right now.

NATO considering deployment of up to 300,000 troops on border with Russia

NATO is discussing the need to strengthen the eastern borders with Russia by concentrating equipment and a military contingent of up to 300,000 soldiers, which should prevent Russia from expanding the war beyond Ukraine.

news.yahoo.com

Aside from all of these recent activities:

Operations and missions: past and present

NATO is an active and leading contributor to peace and security on the international stage. It promotes democratic values and is committed to the peaceful resolution of disputes. However, if diplomatic efforts fail, it has the military capacity to undertake crisis management operations alone or...

www.nato.int

 

[Independent thinker]

Not really
For most of his political career, Bernie Sanders made a modest living. Once he got a following, he started making money on books and speaking engagements

Compared to other Senators, he is far from wealthy

Raise your hands for the 10 Richest Senators of America

A large number of American Senators trade in stocks or come from financially strong backgrounds. Which of these, have accumulated the most wealth over the years?

www.2iqresearch.com

As I said, he is a full blooded capitalist.

 

[rightwinger]

As I said, he is a full blooded capitalist.

Sanders believes in people making money
He just believes they should pay taxes on more of it

 

[Independent thinker]

Sanders believes in people making money
He just believes they should pay taxes on more of it

They do. I'm sure you know that the top 20% pay like 80% of the federal income taxes collected.

 

[rightwinger]

They do. I'm sure you know that the top 20% pay like 80% of the federal income taxes collected.

You do understand how an income tax works?

The fact is they pay an overall tax rate lower than the average US worker