Could Joe Biden be correct about us having a “dark winter”?

[CrusaderFrank]

During last night’s debate, Joe Biden warned “We’re about to go into a dark winter”.

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Of course, any thinking person who has heard Biden’s commitment to shut down our fossil fuel industry,[coal, gas, oil and end fracking] which provides the fuel for our nation’s power plants that heat and light our homes, knows Biden’s warning could only be true if Biden is elected.

Another great reason to not vote for Biden, so that "dark winter’ will never come.

JWK

Joe Biden and Kamala Harris want elderly American citizens, who were forced to pay into Medicare all their lives, to surrender and share their Medicare Trust Fund with millions of foreigners who have invaded America’s borders. LINK

Did China tell Biden they had a plan to make us go dark?

 

[Orangecat]

Every person that ever lifted a finger for the greater good of mankind had issues then.

Disagree.

 

[occupied]

Every person that ever lifted a finger for the greater good of mankind had issues then.

Disagree.

You said you would do nothing to prevent the deaths of others. If Jonas Salk had that attitude he would have been a plastic surgeon.

 

[Orangecat]

You said you would do nothing to prevent the deaths of others. If Jonas Salk had that attitude he would have been a plastic surgeon.

It's not my job to prevent deaths. Nor to facilitate them. Everyone dies, regardless.

 

[occupied]

You said you would do nothing to prevent the deaths of others. If Jonas Salk had that attitude he would have been a plastic surgeon.

It's not my job to prevent deaths. Nor to facilitate them. Everyone dies, regardless.

I didn't ask you what your job is. It's already clear that you are the one with issues. You only live because someone else decided it would be better than you dying.

 

[Orangecat]

I didn't ask you what your job is. It's already clear that you are the one with issues. You only live because someone else decided it would be better than you dying.

Your ignorance is astounding. Are you an adult?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Datk winter sounds racist to me

 

[Aletheia4u]

The Global cabal are trying to control all life here on this planet. They are trying to replace all natural life with their GMO crap.
They are land grabbing and deforestation every where. And replace it with their GMOs. That is why the Amazon rainforest has been burning. And they has been burning up lands in Democrat controlled states as well.
They have created bio-fuel from GMO sugar cane, which they will have total control over the products to create this bio-fuel. You can't patent fossil fuel.
With bio-fuel. they have to buy the oil from the land owners. But these GMO crops they will own it all. And they are going to force farmers to plant this crap.

 

[Aletheia4u]

 

[Kilroy2]

Yet the dark winter he is warning about is the Covid-19 pandemic will get worse.
As the US recorded the highest single day of new coronavirus cases since the pandemic began

The number of cases are rising.

A possible new strain has infected crew members docked in Australia

looks like you will need a hammer to flatten that curve. Trump approach of nothing to see hear is not working.

 

[johnwk]

Yet the dark winter he is warning about is the Covid-19 pandemic will get worse.

It's obvious he was referring to the virus. But his reference to having a "dark winter" turns out to be prophetically true should Biden and Harris get elected and fulfill their promises to close down the fossil fuel industry and stop fracking







Closing down this industry would certainly create a "dark winter" as there would no longer be fuel for power plants which supply the means to heat and light our homes.



JWK



Joe Biden and Kamala Harris want elderly American citizens, who were forced to pay into Medicare all their lives, to surrender and share their Medicare Trust Fund with millions of foreigners who have invaded America’s borders. LINK

 

[Meister]

A lot of American people are going to die. How did caring about that become something bad?

Have you noticed how incredibly low the death rate is with flu this season as compared to last season
at this time? One has to question, why?

The phenomena has been noted around the world. Easy answer. social distancing and masking work against the flu. Add to that social distancing and masking social distancing and masking Add to that decreased exposure to carriers...kids not bringing it home to mom and dad, etc....and increased hand washing, of course!

Yeah, that's it....but we're still getting plenty of the China virus, even with your, "social distancing and masking..... Add to that decreased exposure to carriers...kids not bringing it home to mom and dad, etc....and increased hand washing, of course!"
Why don't I believe you?

Virus is not the flu..despite the best disinformation campaign the Right has waged. Its mortality rate is different--and it is far more virulent..obviously. The affected age is different as well.

Believing me is not the issue...you should know that flu rates are down across the globe.

Or, they are counting the flu as the China virus....which is highly more likely than your lame excuse.
Just follow the money...

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

A lot of American people are going to die. How did caring about that become something bad?

Have you noticed how incredibly low the death rate is with flu this season as compared to last season
at this time? One has to question, why?

The phenomena has been noted around the world. Easy answer. social distancing and masking work against the flu. Add to that social distancing and masking social distancing and masking Add to that decreased exposure to carriers...kids not bringing it home to mom and dad, etc....and increased hand washing, of course!

Yeah, that's it....but we're still getting plenty of the China virus, even with your, "social distancing and masking..... Add to that decreased exposure to carriers...kids not bringing it home to mom and dad, etc....and increased hand washing, of course!"
Why don't I believe you?

Virus is not the flu..despite the best disinformation campaign the Right has waged. Its mortality rate is different--and it is far more virulent..obviously. The affected age is different as well.

Believing me is not the issue...you should know that flu rates are down across the globe.

Or, they are counting the flu as the China virus....which is highly more likely than your lame excuse.
Just follow the money...

Well..people are free to believe what they want...and determine the 'likelihood' according to their own unique rubric. You seem to be invested in the Covid and the flu having the same rates of virulence and morbidity--which, in fact, they do not.

My 'lame excuse' is the prevailing professional wisdom in this matter. I know....everyone is full of shit..unless they embrace your narrative.

If it works for you..roll with it.

 

[2aguy]

During last night’s debate, Joe Biden warned “We’re about to go into a dark winter”.

.



.

Of course, any thinking person who has heard Biden’s commitment to shut down our fossil fuel industry,[coal, gas, oil and end fracking] which provides the fuel for our nation’s power plants that heat and light our homes, knows Biden’s warning could only be true if Biden is elected.

Another great reason to not vote for Biden, so that "dark winter’ will never come.

JWK

Joe Biden and Kamala Harris want elderly American citizens, who were forced to pay into Medicare all their lives, to surrender and share their Medicare Trust Fund with millions of foreigners who have invaded America’s borders. LINK

No......death rates are going down, treatments are working and a vaccine is on the way....he is an idiot trying to scare voters to vote for him..

On top of that?

Survival rate for people under 70 is 95%.....

Survival rate for people over 70 is 90%........

The reaction to the disease has been a power grab, nothing more.........

 

[Meister]

A lot of American people are going to die. How did caring about that become something bad?

Have you noticed how incredibly low the death rate is with flu this season as compared to last season
at this time? One has to question, why?

The phenomena has been noted around the world. Easy answer. social distancing and masking work against the flu. Add to that social distancing and masking social distancing and masking Add to that decreased exposure to carriers...kids not bringing it home to mom and dad, etc....and increased hand washing, of course!

Yeah, that's it....but we're still getting plenty of the China virus, even with your, "social distancing and masking..... Add to that decreased exposure to carriers...kids not bringing it home to mom and dad, etc....and increased hand washing, of course!"
Why don't I believe you?

Virus is not the flu..despite the best disinformation campaign the Right has waged. Its mortality rate is different--and it is far more virulent..obviously. The affected age is different as well.

Believing me is not the issue...you should know that flu rates are down across the globe.

Or, they are counting the flu as the China virus....which is highly more likely than your lame excuse.
Just follow the money...

Well..people are free to believe what they want...and determine the 'likelihood' according to their own unique rubric. You seem to be invested in the Covid and the flu having the same rates of virulence--which, in fact, they do not.

My 'lame excuse' is the prevailing professional wisdom in this matter. I know....everyone is full of shit..unless they embrace your narrative.

If it works for you..roll with it.

The main difference between the two is one has a vaccine and one doesn't. They both would have the same rates of virulence without the vaccine.
My point is that the hospitals are 'rewarded' with government funding for the 'diagnosed' China virus. The incentive is there and even the CDC says
that the virus has been over diagnosed. I use common sense as to why there is such a low seasonal flu rate this year. I never said you were full of shit, I said
you had a lame excuse. "Professional wisdom"? eh

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

A lot of American people are going to die. How did caring about that become something bad?

Have you noticed how incredibly low the death rate is with flu this season as compared to last season
at this time? One has to question, why?

The phenomena has been noted around the world. Easy answer. social distancing and masking work against the flu. Add to that social distancing and masking social distancing and masking Add to that decreased exposure to carriers...kids not bringing it home to mom and dad, etc....and increased hand washing, of course!

Yeah, that's it....but we're still getting plenty of the China virus, even with your, "social distancing and masking..... Add to that decreased exposure to carriers...kids not bringing it home to mom and dad, etc....and increased hand washing, of course!"
Why don't I believe you?

Virus is not the flu..despite the best disinformation campaign the Right has waged. Its mortality rate is different--and it is far more virulent..obviously. The affected age is different as well.

Believing me is not the issue...you should know that flu rates are down across the globe.

Or, they are counting the flu as the China virus....which is highly more likely than your lame excuse.
Just follow the money...

Well..people are free to believe what they want...and determine the 'likelihood' according to their own unique rubric. You seem to be invested in the Covid and the flu having the same rates of virulence--which, in fact, they do not.

My 'lame excuse' is the prevailing professional wisdom in this matter. I know....everyone is full of shit..unless they embrace your narrative.

If it works for you..roll with it.

The main difference between the two is one has a vaccine and one doesn't. They both would have the same rates of virulence without the vaccine.
My point is that the hospitals are 'rewarded' with government funding for the 'diagnosed' China virus. The incentive is there and even the CDC says
that the virus has been over diagnosed. I use common sense as to why there is such a low seasonal flu rate this year. I never said you were full of shit, I said
you had a lame excuse. "Professional wisdom"? eh

They both would have the same rates of virulence without the vaccine.
My point is that the hospitals are 'rewarded' with government funding for the 'diagnosed' China virus. The incentive is there and even the CDC says
that the virus has been over diagnosed.

Your first point is unknown...your second point is correct...it would seem venality is a human constant, eh?

I note that you did not address the vast difference in morbidity--which you will no doubt attribute to fudging the causes of death to reflect Covid.
However...comparing Flu deaths in the US for less than a year with Covid deaths, even allowing for a 50% fudge factor still has Covid leading by 2 to 1.

50k+ deaths last year from Flu, high end estimate. 200k+ and counting for Covid.

How Many Americans Die From Flu Every Year?

Influenza is uncomfortable and contagious. Did you know it can also be deadly? In 2018-2019 between 26,000 and 53,000 people died from the flu in the US alone.

www.worldatlas.com

Professional..you know..Dr.'s and healthcare pros. Epidemiologists, CDC experts..etc..

From Southern Hemisphere, Hints That U.S. May Be Spared Flu On Top Of COVID-19

So far this year, flu infections are way down in the Southern Hemisphere. Scientists want to know why — and what it means for the Northern Hemisphere as their flu season looms.

www.npr.org

The Great Covid-19 Versus Flu Comparison Revisited

A consensus is emerging on how deadly the coronavirus really is. But comparing it with past influenza pandemics turns out to be harder than it looks.

www.bloomberg.com

To compare influenza fatality rates with the Covid-19 infection fatality rate, though, one really needs to factor in those asymptomatic infections. A while back, University of Oxford infectious disease epidemiologist Christophe Fraser suggested on Twitter that doing so with seasonal influenza would deliver an infection fatality rate of about 0.04%. When I ran this estimate by influenza expert Lone Simonsen, a professor at Roskilde University in Denmark who used to work at the CDC and NIH, she endorsed it. One can also just take the 0.13% symptomatic-case fatality rate from the CDC and the low-end estimate that 50% of infections are asymptomatic and conservatively calculate an infection fatality rate of 0.065% — exactly one-tenth what the CDC currently estimates for Covid-19.

 

[FRIKSHUN]

During last night’s debate, Joe Biden warned “We’re about to go into a dark winter”.

.



.

Of course, any thinking person who has heard Biden’s commitment to shut down our fossil fuel industry,[coal, gas, oil and end fracking] which provides the fuel for our nation’s power plants that heat and light our homes, knows Biden’s warning could only be true if Biden is elected.

Another great reason to not vote for Biden, so that "dark winter’ will never come.

JWK

Joe Biden and Kamala Harris want elderly American citizens, who were forced to pay into Medicare all their lives, to surrender and share their Medicare Trust Fund with millions of foreigners who have invaded America’s borders. LINK

 

[Meister]

A lot of American people are going to die. How did caring about that become something bad?

Have you noticed how incredibly low the death rate is with flu this season as compared to last season
at this time? One has to question, why?

The phenomena has been noted around the world. Easy answer. social distancing and masking work against the flu. Add to that social distancing and masking social distancing and masking Add to that decreased exposure to carriers...kids not bringing it home to mom and dad, etc....and increased hand washing, of course!

Yeah, that's it....but we're still getting plenty of the China virus, even with your, "social distancing and masking..... Add to that decreased exposure to carriers...kids not bringing it home to mom and dad, etc....and increased hand washing, of course!"
Why don't I believe you?

Virus is not the flu..despite the best disinformation campaign the Right has waged. Its mortality rate is different--and it is far more virulent..obviously. The affected age is different as well.

Believing me is not the issue...you should know that flu rates are down across the globe.

Or, they are counting the flu as the China virus....which is highly more likely than your lame excuse.
Just follow the money...

Well..people are free to believe what they want...and determine the 'likelihood' according to their own unique rubric. You seem to be invested in the Covid and the flu having the same rates of virulence--which, in fact, they do not.

My 'lame excuse' is the prevailing professional wisdom in this matter. I know....everyone is full of shit..unless they embrace your narrative.

If it works for you..roll with it.

The main difference between the two is one has a vaccine and one doesn't. They both would have the same rates of virulence without the vaccine.
My point is that the hospitals are 'rewarded' with government funding for the 'diagnosed' China virus. The incentive is there and even the CDC says
that the virus has been over diagnosed. I use common sense as to why there is such a low seasonal flu rate this year. I never said you were full of shit, I said
you had a lame excuse. "Professional wisdom"? eh

They both would have the same rates of virulence without the vaccine.
My point is that the hospitals are 'rewarded' with government funding for the 'diagnosed' China virus. The incentive is there and even the CDC says
that the virus has been over diagnosed.

Your first point is unknown...your second point is correct...it would seem venality is a human constant, eh?

I note that you did not address the vast difference in morbidity--which you will no doubt attribute to fudging the causes of death to reflect Covid.
However...comparing Flu deaths in the US for less than a year with Covid deaths, even allowing for a 50% fudge factor still has Covid leading by 2 to 1.

50k+ deaths last year from Flu, high end estimate. 200k+ and counting for Covid.

How Many Americans Die From Flu Every Year?

Influenza is uncomfortable and contagious. Did you know it can also be deadly? In 2018-2019 between 26,000 and 53,000 people died from the flu in the US alone.

www.worldatlas.com

Professional..you know..Dr.'s and healthcare pros. Epidemiologists, CDC experts..etc..

From Southern Hemisphere, Hints That U.S. May Be Spared Flu On Top Of COVID-19

So far this year, flu infections are way down in the Southern Hemisphere. Scientists want to know why — and what it means for the Northern Hemisphere as their flu season looms.

www.npr.org

The Great Covid-19 Versus Flu Comparison Revisited

A consensus is emerging on how deadly the coronavirus really is. But comparing it with past influenza pandemics turns out to be harder than it looks.

www.bloomberg.com

To compare influenza fatality rates with the Covid-19 infection fatality rate, though, one really needs to factor in those asymptomatic infections. A while back, University of Oxford infectious disease epidemiologist Christophe Fraser suggested on Twitter that doing so with seasonal influenza would deliver an infection fatality rate of about 0.04%. When I ran this estimate by influenza expert Lone Simonsen, a professor at Roskilde University in Denmark who used to work at the CDC and NIH, she endorsed it. One can also just take the 0.13% symptomatic-case fatality rate from the CDC and the low-end estimate that 50% of infections are asymptomatic and conservatively calculate an infection fatality rate of 0.065% — exactly one-tenth what the CDC currently estimates for Covid-19.

Hell, I'm talking about an apple and you seem to be talking about an orange. Mine is talking about the admission from the CDC that the China virus numbers
are overstated and apparently, for the funding from the government. Very easy to put the seasonal flu into the China virus column. period
Seems the conversation got all mucky with your death rate and all....doctor.

 

[johnwk]

No......death rates are going down, treatments are working and a vaccine is on the way....he is an idiot trying to scare voters to vote for him..
On top of that?
Survival rate for people under 70 is 95%.....
Survival rate for people over 70 is 90%........
The reaction to the disease has been a power grab, nothing more.........

Well, you are absolutely correct about the attempted "power grab" being the ultimate goal. Whether that goal is reached under the guise for the need for "clean energy", or dealing with the virus, makes no freaken difference to these power hungry vultures. As to the former [clean energy] being the vehicle to grab power, the socialist/communist controlled Democrat Leadership’s plan is to use the need for “clean energy” to plunder our federal treasury. Under the guise of creating clean energy, the plan is to invest federal revenue in phony clean energy corporations set up by Democrat donors, which is then redistributed back to the families of the Democrat Party Leadership ____ which is nothing more than a money laundering operation, just as was Obama’s clean energy swindling operation in which 80% of green energy money taxed away from the wages of hard working American Citizens WENT TO Obama's donors!

JWK

The Biden/Harris socialist healthcare plan will tax America’s productive citizens and our retired Senior citizens to provide healthcare to the 1.5 million DACA and 3.6 million Dreamers in our country ___ LINK

 

[Dick Foster]

During last night’s debate, Joe Biden warned “We’re about to go into a dark winter”.

.



.

Of course, any thinking person who has heard Biden’s commitment to shut down our fossil fuel industry,[coal, gas, oil and end fracking] which provides the fuel for our nation’s power plants that heat and light our homes, knows Biden’s warning could only be true if Biden is elected.

Another great reason to not vote for Biden, so that "dark winter’ will never come.

JWK

Joe Biden and Kamala Harris want elderly American citizens, who were forced to pay into Medicare all their lives, to surrender and share their Medicare Trust Fund with millions of foreigners who have invaded America’s borders. LINK

Well one thing is dayum certain, its going to be a very dark and sad winter indeed for Biden and his idiotic followers and losers. In fact it's gonna be dark for a long long time, at least four years and probably many more.