Zone1 Could Humans Survive a Nuclear War Between Nato and Russia?

[fncceo]

300 MILLION ISN'T EVEN A DROP IN THE BUCKET.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

we're testing

I am sure the Russians and Chinese are also.

 

[insolent imp]

The primary purpose of a hypersonic missile is an anti-ship weapon, for ships with conventional missile defense systems. The Ukraine Navy has no such ships... they currently have no ships actively engaging in combat.

Using a hypersonic missile on ground troops when conventional ASM and bombs would do the trick is silly.

Russia only recently claimed to have deployed there hypersonic missile, there is no record they actually used it.

I'll post it again

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Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Major General Igor Konashenkov at a press briefing commented as follows:


«On March 18, the Kinzhal airborne complex with its hypersonic ballistic missiles destroyed a large underground storage of missiles and ammunition of the Ukrainian army aviation in the locality of Delyatyn, Ivano-Frankivsk region.»

Ukraine: first operational use of Kinzal hypersonic missile

According to Russian media, the hypersonic Kinzhal (Dagger) missile was used for the first time in combat to destroy a Ukrainian undergrond ammunition depot.

www.aviacionline.com

 

[insolent imp]

I am sure the Russians and Chinese are also.

that's certain.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

do y'all understand the difference between testing and having a weapon?

The Kh-47M2 Kinzhal is a nuclear-capable, Russian air-launched ballistic missile, likely derived from Russia’s ground-launched 9K720 Iskander-M. It was one of six “next generation” weapons unveiled by President Putin during a speech in March 2018.1

I highlighted the key word you glossed over. You do know that a ballistic missile is not under it's own power, right?

 

[insolent imp]

I highlighted the key word you glossed over.

would you like me to highlight the word hypersonic for you in the article? it was mentioned many times.
from the article header
Ukraine: first operational use of Kinzal hypersonic missile

 

[fncceo]

Kinzhal airborne complex with its hypersonic ballistic missiles

Kinzhal is the Russian name for Kh-47M2 missile (NATO codename "Dagger") ... I have no idea, nor does whomever reported this, what a "Kinzhal Airborne Complex" is.

I wouldn't put too much stock in Russian (or Ukrainian) propaganda. Something got lost in the translation from Russian to Portuguese to English.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The Russian Ministry of Defense announced on March 18 that it had deployed the Kinzhal to destroy an underground warehouse for missiles and aviation ammunition in the western part of Ukraine. The following day, the Defense Ministry released a video of the attack and claimed that it had also used the Kinzhal to destroy a Ukrainian storage base in the Mykolaiv region. These incidents were reported by Russian news agencies to be the first uses of Kinzhal missiles in its invasion of Ukraine, though the system may have been previously tested in Syria under war conditions.

Russia’s Kinzhal Hypersonic Missile: A Game-Changing Weapon or a Distraction?

www.nti.org

So the Russians say they did. Anybody else?

 

[insolent imp]

Kinzhal is the Russian name for Kh-47M2 missile (NATO codename "Dagger") ... I have no idea, nor does whomever reported this, what a "Kinzhal Airborne Complex" is.

I wouldn't put too much stock in Russian (or Ukrainian) propaganda. Something got lost in the translation from Russian to Portuguese to English.

I've proven that not only does Russia possess hypersonic weapons they've used them.

 

[insolent imp]

So the Russians say they did. Anybody else?

the ukraine, the U.S government. the media , and the U.N.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I've proven that not only does Russia possess hypersonic weapons they've used them.

No, you haven't. You've proven that Vlad CLAIMS to have them. You point to the use of some sort of munition, which could be anything, and say that settles it. It doesn't. Russia has a LONG history of lying about weapons they don't have. Russia is the master of the terracotta army.

 

[Uncensored2008]

the ukraine, the U.S government. the media , and the U.N.

None of the above.

You link to foreign media. US Media in no way supports your claims. The US government certainly doesn't.

 

[Dayton3]

Where did you come up with that silly idea?

Decades of research and the ability to do math. You should try it.

 

[insolent imp]

None of the above.

You link to foreign media. US Media in no way supports your claims. The US government certainly

None of the above.

You link to foreign media. US Media in no way supports your claims. The US government certainly doesn't.

Biden says Russian forces fired hypersonic missile in Ukraine​

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President Biden at the Business Roundtable's chief executive officer quarterly meeting in Washington, D.C., on Monday. Photo: Leigh Vogel/Bloomberg via Getty Images
Russia's military has used a hypersonic missile in Ukraine, President Biden confirmed Monday night.
Driving the news: Ukrainian forces are "wreaking havoc" on Russia's military and Russian President Vladimir "Putin's back is against the wall," Biden said at a Business Roundtable event after the White House.
What he's saying: "They've just launched their hypersonic missile because it's the only thing they can get through with absolute certainty," Biden said of Russian forces.

None of the above.

You link to foreign media. US Media in no way supports

 

[insolent imp]

No, you haven't. You've proven that Vlad CLAIMS to have them. You point to the use of some sort of munition, which could be anything, and say that settles it. It doesn't. Russia has a LONG history of lying about weapons they don't have. Russia is the master of the terracotta army.

I'm sorry the truth hurts but facts are facts.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

the ukraine, the U.S government. the media , and the U.N.

How would they know?

 

[Dayton3]

Biden says Russian forces fired hypersonic missile in Ukraine​

• Rebecca Falconer

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President Biden at the Business Roundtable's chief executive officer quarterly meeting in Washington, D.C., on Monday. Photo: Leigh Vogel/Bloomberg via Getty Images
Russia's military has used a hypersonic missile in Ukraine, President Biden confirmed Monday night.
Driving the news: Ukrainian forces are "wreaking havoc" on Russia's military and Russian President Vladimir "Putin's back is against the wall," Biden said at a Business Roundtable event after the White House.
What he's saying: "They've just launched their hypersonic missile because it's the only thing they can get through with absolute certainty," Biden said of Russian forces.

and you believe him?

 

[insolent imp]

How would they know?

well if you launched a missile into my town I'd notice and talk about it. or gee could it be the heavy media presence in a war zone?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Decades of research and the ability to do math. You should try it.

Decades of research? What are you? 12? 15 tops? That's how you present yourself.

I was a Navy nuclear weapons officer. Can you top that?

I used to sleep with nuclear weapons in the same compartment. How about you?

 

[Dayton3]

Decades of research? What are you? 12? 15 tops?

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