Correcting the liberal lies about the defense budget

[rightwinger]

The reason they went to a museum was because it was an old airframe and it made more sense to salvage an old part then issue a procurement to fabricate a single replacement part. It was done to save money not because they are anywhere near destitute

Nobody knows how to make stuff up like RW. It wasn't a "single" part. There are many planes requiring many parts which they are forced to scavenge.

It is a common practice with older airframes. We maintain boneyards full of retired airplanes to provide parts for aircraft still in service

 

[P@triot]

Cute...but....it's not the government's job to feed the hungry or clothe people. You should really consider reading the U.S. Constitution sometime.

 

[P@triot]

The reason they went to a museum was because it was an old airframe and it made more sense to salvage an old part then issue a procurement to fabricate a single replacement part. It was done to save money not because they are anywhere near destitute

Nobody knows how to make stuff up like RW. It wasn't a "single" part. There are many planes requiring many parts which they are forced to scavenge.

It is a common practice with older airframes. We maintain boneyards full of retired airplanes to provide parts for aircraft still in service

Then we shouldn't need to go to a museum for them - uh?

 

[rightwinger]

The reason they went to a museum was because it was an old airframe and it made more sense to salvage an old part then issue a procurement to fabricate a single replacement part. It was done to save money not because they are anywhere near destitute

Nobody knows how to make stuff up like RW. It wasn't a "single" part. There are many planes requiring many parts which they are forced to scavenge.

It is a common practice with older airframes. We maintain boneyards full of retired airplanes to provide parts for aircraft still in service

Then we shouldn't need to go to a museum for them - uh?

Why not?

Some procurement official did a search to locate an obscure part and found one in a museum. Saved money

 

[rightwinger]

Cute...but....it's not the government's job to feed the hungry or clothe people. You should really consider reading the U.S. Constitution sometime.

Anarchists...gotta love em

 

[P@triot]

Reagan borrowed heavily to use the defense budget to fuel his economy. Most of the weapons systems he bought were obsolete within ten years

Uh...most technology is absolute within three years genius. How many computers do you know in use that are ten years old?!?

If Reagan got a decade out of the defense systems he invested in then he is one of the greatest leaders in world history.

 

[P@triot]

Cute...but....it's not the government's job to feed the hungry or clothe people. You should really consider reading the U.S. Constitution sometime.

Anarchists...gotta love em

Only a libtard would declare constitutional government "anarchy"

 

[P@triot]

The reason they went to a museum was because it was an old airframe and it made more sense to salvage an old part then issue a procurement to fabricate a single replacement part. It was done to save money not because they are anywhere near destitute

Nobody knows how to make stuff up like RW. It wasn't a "single" part. There are many planes requiring many parts which they are forced to scavenge.

It is a common practice with older airframes. We maintain boneyards full of retired airplanes to provide parts for aircraft still in service

Then we shouldn't need to go to a museum for them - uh?

Why not? Some procurement official did a search to locate an obscure part and found one in a museum. Saved money

Why not?!? Because you just said that we (and I quote) "maintain boneyards full of retired airplanes to provide parts for aircraft still in service". So they should have simply gone to then "boneyard". Oops... You make so much shit up you can't even remember what you said two posts ago.

 

[rightwinger]

The reason they went to a museum was because it was an old airframe and it made more sense to salvage an old part then issue a procurement to fabricate a single replacement part. It was done to save money not because they are anywhere near destitute

Nobody knows how to make stuff up like RW. It wasn't a "single" part. There are many planes requiring many parts which they are forced to scavenge.

It is a common practice with older airframes. We maintain boneyards full of retired airplanes to provide parts for aircraft still in service

Then we shouldn't need to go to a museum for them - uh?

Marines Had To Scrounge for F/A-18 Parts at a Museum

The part in question was not on hand at Beaufort and is no longer manufactured. The Marines first went to check retired F/A-18s on display at MCAS Beaufort but didn't find it. Then a Marine Lt. Colonel visiting the USS Yorktown (a retired aircraft carrier part of the Patriots Point Naval and Maritime Museum) in nearby Charleston noted a similar vintage F/A-18A on deck and informed the Beaufort contingent about it.

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The Marines needed an old landing gear door hinge.
Patriots Point


"We got an email from the military asking if they could have the forward left nose landing gear door hinge from the F/A-18 on [the Yorktown's] deck," says Patriots Point spokesman Chris Hauff. "The Hornet, [Bureau no. 162435] is on loan to us from the National Naval Aviation Museum and they asked if the Marines could come out and take a look at it. They sent a team out here and removed the part, but it turns out they weren't able to use it."

 

[frigidweirdo]

The US defense budget was $664 billion in 2011, that's about 18% of the total federal budget.

We spend over $1 trillion per year on public assistance (or roughly 32% of the total federal budget) and that's not even remotely constitutional.

The point I was making wasn't about how much was being spent, but on what it was being spent.

I don't agree with all welfare spending, however welfare spending is going on something that people believe, or want to believe, is helping people (even if it isn't), but military spending is going on going around the world attacking people just for profit.

 

[rightwinger]

Reagan borrowed heavily to use the defense budget to fuel his economy. Most of the weapons systems he bought were obsolete within ten years

Uh...most technology is absolute within three years genius. How many computers do you know in use that are ten years old?!?

If Reagan got a decade out of the defense systems he invested in then he is one of the greatest leaders in world history.

Due to the lengthy procurement time and time needed to write code, Reagan era computers were obsolete before they were delivered

 

[P@triot]

The US defense budget was $664 billion in 2011, that's about 18% of the total federal budget.

We spend over $1 trillion per year on public assistance (or roughly 32% of the total federal budget) and that's not even remotely constitutional.

The point I was making wasn't about how much was being spent, but on what it was being spent.

I don't agree with all welfare spending, however welfare spending is going on something that people believe, or want to believe, is helping people (even if it isn't), but military spending is going on going around the world attacking people just for profit.

And you don't think defense is helping people? You don't think all American's are better off because of defense? You don't think the people of Iraq are better off because we removed Saddam Hussien?

 

[P@triot]

Reagan borrowed heavily to use the defense budget to fuel his economy. Most of the weapons systems he bought were obsolete within ten years

Uh...most technology is absolute within three years genius. How many computers do you know in use that are ten years old?!?

If Reagan got a decade out of the defense systems he invested in then he is one of the greatest leaders in world history.

Due to the lengthy procurement time and time needed to write code, Reagan era computers were obsolete before they were delivered

Nice try. You just admitted his weapons systems lasted a decade.

 

[hadit]

The false liberal narrative is that we have some insane, unimaginable defense budget that is "bloated", "unnecessary", and "wasteful". They of course follow that false narrative up with "take that money and use it on public assistance". And that is why they are lying about the defense budget. Because the socialist "public assistance" agenda is unsustainable. It is bankrupting this nation and the left doesn't want to let go of it. So they create a false narrative about something (defense) which is not only exponentially more vital, but also the constitutional responsibility of the federal government.

The military has actually been forced under Barack Obama to scavenge museums for the airplane parts they need to keep their aircrafts flying. That is absolutely inexcusable. It's something one would expect from the Soviet Union as they were collapsing - not from the world's elite super-power. And it is the result of liberals gutting the defense budget over and over and over while throwing trillions of dollars at the welfare class in order to purchase votes.

The men and women who server in our military deserve much better than this. They deserve the best. The best supply chain. The best parts. The best technology. The best equipment. And the best benefits (healthcare, education, etc.). Traditionally, the military has voted Republican for this very reason. The left should be ashamed at how they not only treat our military (which is worse than dirt) but also how they advocate to take more money from them and treat them even worse than they do now. Not only should we not cut the defense budget one penny more - we should increase the defense budget at least 50% (if not double it).

• Marine Corps mechanics have had to scavenge F-18 parts from museums to keep their planes flying. Even with the scavenging, only 30% of those F-18s are ready to fly today. Unfortunately, similar serious challenges face all the military services.

• The 2016 Index of U.S. Military Strength looked at the size, capabilities, and readiness of each part of the military and concluded that as a package the military is only “marginal” in its ability to protect America.

• The Army, which just became the smallest since before World War II, fell even lower to a “weak” rating due to the dramatic cuts in its size and readiness.

Congress Must Act Now to Start Rebuilding the US Military

It would be hard to scavenge for parts of an F-35.......Oh and sequestration was a GOP idea.....

Actually, it was Obama's idea. They just agreed and let him have it, which they always did.

 

[JoeB131]

Cute...but....it's not the government's job to feed the hungry or clothe people. You should really consider reading the U.S. Constitution sometime.

Yes, I'm sure you read that in your copy of Atlas Shrugged.

The thing is, you guys lose this argument.

Tell you what, why don't you all run on a program of eliminating "White People Welfare" such as social security, medicare and unemployment insurance.

see how popular that makes you.

 

[JoeB131]

And you don't think defense is helping people? You don't think all American's are better off because of defense? You don't think the people of Iraq are better off because we removed Saddam Hussien?

No, I don't think they are better off. 150,000 to a million Iraqis died as a result of our ham-fisted invasion, and the country has effectively descended into anarchy.

If Saddam was as bad as that, the Iraqiswould have gotten rid of him themselves.

 

[P@triot]

The false liberal narrative is that we have some insane, unimaginable defense budget that is "bloated", "unnecessary", and "wasteful". They of course follow that false narrative up with "take that money and use it on public assistance". And that is why they are lying about the defense budget. Because the socialist "public assistance" agenda is unsustainable. It is bankrupting this nation and the left doesn't want to let go of it. So they create a false narrative about something (defense) which is not only exponentially more vital, but also the constitutional responsibility of the federal government.

The military has actually been forced under Barack Obama to scavenge museums for the airplane parts they need to keep their aircrafts flying. That is absolutely inexcusable. It's something one would expect from the Soviet Union as they were collapsing - not from the world's elite super-power. And it is the result of liberals gutting the defense budget over and over and over while throwing trillions of dollars at the welfare class in order to purchase votes.

The men and women who server in our military deserve much better than this. They deserve the best. The best supply chain. The best parts. The best technology. The best equipment. And the best benefits (healthcare, education, etc.). Traditionally, the military has voted Republican for this very reason. The left should be ashamed at how they not only treat our military (which is worse than dirt) but also how they advocate to take more money from them and treat them even worse than they do now. Not only should we not cut the defense budget one penny more - we should increase the defense budget at least 50% (if not double it).

• Marine Corps mechanics have had to scavenge F-18 parts from museums to keep their planes flying. Even with the scavenging, only 30% of those F-18s are ready to fly today. Unfortunately, similar serious challenges face all the military services.

• The 2016 Index of U.S. Military Strength looked at the size, capabilities, and readiness of each part of the military and concluded that as a package the military is only “marginal” in its ability to protect America.

• The Army, which just became the smallest since before World War II, fell even lower to a “weak” rating due to the dramatic cuts in its size and readiness.

Congress Must Act Now to Start Rebuilding the US Military

It would be hard to scavenge for parts of an F-35.......Oh and sequestration was a GOP idea.....

Actually, it was Obama's idea. They just agreed and let him have it, which they always did.

Obama played them like a fiddle. He wanted to gut defense all along. When he got them to "compromise" on sequestration being to defense, he made sure to over spend so that sequestration would kick in. He not only got to throw money at everyone to purchase votes, but he also got to automatically gut defense. It was a perfect win-win for him.

 

[Searcher44]

Report Reveals $8.5 Trillion Missing From Pentagon Budget
Yahoo Money’ The Daily Ticker quoting a Reuters investigation that reveals that $8.5 trillion – that’s trillion with a “T” – in taxpayer money doled out by Congress to the Pentagon since 1996 that has never been accounted for.

How This Shitty Jet Could Provide 23 Years of Free College for Everyone
Tom Cahill | November 13, 2015
One failed jet vs. providing higher education to two generations.

Congratulations...you've managed to support the conservative position for over 150 years now. That we need small, limited government that we can more closely monitor to avoid abuses. We thank you for helping to prove our point.

Report Reveals $8.5 Trillion Missing From Pentagon Budget
Yahoo Money’ The Daily Ticker quoting a Reuters investigation that reveals that $8.5 trillion – that’s trillion with a “T” – in taxpayer money doled out by Congress to the Pentagon since 1996 that has never been accounted for.

How This Shitty Jet Could Provide 23 Years of Free College for Everyone
Tom Cahill | November 13, 2015
One failed jet vs. providing higher education to two generations.

Congratulations...you've managed to support the conservative position for over 150 years now. That we need small, limited government that we can more closely monitor to avoid abuses. We thank you for helping to prove our point.

Having a small limited government? The military is the government. You want more and more and more and more government.

Throw in a few more items on the conservative wish list like the trillion dollar war on drugs and soon we're talking big money and big government intrusion into individual lives.

 

[Searcher44]

The US defense budget was $664 billion in 2011, that's about 18% of the total federal budget.

We spend over $1 trillion per year on public assistance (or roughly 32% of the total federal budget) and that's not even remotely constitutional.

The point I was making wasn't about how much was being spent, but on what it was being spent.

I don't agree with all welfare spending, however welfare spending is going on something that people believe, or want to believe, is helping people (even if it isn't), but military spending is going on going around the world attacking people just for profit.

And you don't think defense is helping people? You don't think all American's are better off because of defense? You don't think the people of Iraq are better off because we removed Saddam Hussien?

The Republican nominee for Commander-in-Chief thinks otherwise on your concept of "defense" saying many times Bush should have been impeached for his and his cohorts wielding American power for the personal preferences of a few neocons. And Saddam? His opinion;

"The United States "shouldn't have destabilized" Iraq, now a hotbed for the Islamic State group 13 years after the US-led invasion, said Mr Trump, who showed lukewarm support for the war before it took place and later opposed it."

"He was a bad guy - really bad guy. But you know what he did well? He killed terrorists. He did that so good," Mr Trump told supporters on Tuesday in Raleigh, North Carolina."

Trump praised the Iraqi strongman, who was hanged in 2006 CREDIT: AP

"They didn't read them the rights. They didn't talk. They were terrorists. It was over. Today, Iraq is Harvard for terrorism," the Republican firebrand added."

I don't usually quote the asshole and hardly ever agree with him but hey! that's not any liberal talking, that's your Party's leader.

The false liberal narrative is that we have some insane, unimaginable defense budget that is "bloated", "unnecessary", and "wasteful".

By the way, it's been shown how the defense budget is bloated by pork and the greed of defense contractors, the information is out there that many "unnecessary" weapons systems are lobbied for and sold to a compliant congress, and anybody that denies waste in the Pentagon's habits is either crazy - or a liar. So where are the "liberal lies" your narrative starts off with in this first sentence of the OP?

 

[rightwinger]

The false liberal narrative is that we have some insane, unimaginable defense budget that is "bloated", "unnecessary", and "wasteful". They of course follow that false narrative up with "take that money and use it on public assistance". And that is why they are lying about the defense budget. Because the socialist "public assistance" agenda is unsustainable. It is bankrupting this nation and the left doesn't want to let go of it. So they create a false narrative about something (defense) which is not only exponentially more vital, but also the constitutional responsibility of the federal government.

The military has actually been forced under Barack Obama to scavenge museums for the airplane parts they need to keep their aircrafts flying. That is absolutely inexcusable. It's something one would expect from the Soviet Union as they were collapsing - not from the world's elite super-power. And it is the result of liberals gutting the defense budget over and over and over while throwing trillions of dollars at the welfare class in order to purchase votes.

The men and women who server in our military deserve much better than this. They deserve the best. The best supply chain. The best parts. The best technology. The best equipment. And the best benefits (healthcare, education, etc.). Traditionally, the military has voted Republican for this very reason. The left should be ashamed at how they not only treat our military (which is worse than dirt) but also how they advocate to take more money from them and treat them even worse than they do now. Not only should we not cut the defense budget one penny more - we should increase the defense budget at least 50% (if not double it).

• Marine Corps mechanics have had to scavenge F-18 parts from museums to keep their planes flying. Even with the scavenging, only 30% of those F-18s are ready to fly today. Unfortunately, similar serious challenges face all the military services.

• The 2016 Index of U.S. Military Strength looked at the size, capabilities, and readiness of each part of the military and concluded that as a package the military is only “marginal” in its ability to protect America.

• The Army, which just became the smallest since before World War II, fell even lower to a “weak” rating due to the dramatic cuts in its size and readiness.

Congress Must Act Now to Start Rebuilding the US Military

It would be hard to scavenge for parts of an F-35.......Oh and sequestration was a GOP idea.....

Actually, it was Obama's idea. They just agreed and let him have it, which they always did.

Obama played them like a fiddle. He wanted to gut defense all along. When he got them to "compromise" on sequestration being to defense, he made sure to over spend so that sequestration would kick in. He not only got to throw money at everyone to purchase votes, but he also got to automatically gut defense. It was a perfect win-win for him.

It is a rightwing myth that Obama gutted the military. Any cuts were a result of Congressional sequestration. All they had to do was agree on a budget