Correcting the liberal lies about the defense budget

[rightwinger]

When it comes to the defense budget politicians should keep their friggin' noses out of it and pay attention instead to the needs the heads of the various services say are required. Often I've read about various assets contracted for and in the production pipelines for equipment that's not needed, in lieu of other assets the services are short of. But the pols won't cancel contracts and redirect that money where it's really needed because it will affect, for example, factory workers at a plant in some representative's district or senator's state. So the money gets spent on superfluous stuff that sits around unused, and then they complain we need more money for defense spending!

I'm all for a strong defense but cut out the wasteful spending and get our forces the resources they really need to defend us.

Defense jobs and military bases are the ultimate pork in a Congressmans district
Major Defense contractors know which subcontractors to hire in the districts of influential congressmen

 

[P@triot]

More indisputable evidence that the budget crisis is idiot liberal socialism and not defense.

Sources are the OMB (Office of Management & Budget) and the CBO (Congressional Budget Office). I point that out because libtards will inevitably scream "Pfff! Heritage" when the info comes from their own precious government itself...

 

[rightwinger]

More indisputable evidence that the budget crisis is idiot liberal socialism and not defense.

Sources are the OMB (Office of Management & Budget) and the CBO (Congressional Budget Office). I point that out because libtards will inevitably scream "Pfff! Heritage" when the info comes from their own precious government itself...

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Any sane person would rather spend money on AMERICANS than on being the policeman of the world.

I would rather spend money on schools, medical care, infrastructure, helping the poor than on another carrier task force

 

[P@triot]

More indisputable evidence that the budget crisis is idiot liberal socialism and not defense.

Sources are the OMB (Office of Management & Budget) and the CBO (Congressional Budget Office). I point that out because libtards will inevitably scream "Pfff! Heritage" when the info comes from their own precious government itself...

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Any sane person would rather spend money on AMERICANS than on being the policeman of the world.

I would rather spend money on schools, medical care, infrastructure, helping the poor than on another carrier task force

Of course you would. Anything to get government throwing money in your direction. But here's the thing chief - the U.S. Constitution makes defense the responsibility of the federal government. Education, medical care, "helping the poor", and your other absurd liberal talking points are not the responsibility of the federal government and are therefore unconstitutional for the federal government to involve themselves in.

But the bottom line is that both the OMB and the CBO show that this idiotic liberalism is completely and totally unsustainable.

 

[rightwinger]

More indisputable evidence that the budget crisis is idiot liberal socialism and not defense.

Sources are the OMB (Office of Management & Budget) and the CBO (Congressional Budget Office). I point that out because libtards will inevitably scream "Pfff! Heritage" when the info comes from their own precious government itself...

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Any sane person would rather spend money on AMERICANS than on being the policeman of the world.

I would rather spend money on schools, medical care, infrastructure, helping the poor than on another carrier task force

Of course you would. Anything to get government throwing money in your direction. But here's the thing chief - the U.S. Constitution makes defense the responsibility of the federal government. Education, medical care, "helping the poor", and your other absurd liberal talking points are not the responsibility of the federal government and are therefore unconstitutional for the federal government to involve themselves in.

But the bottom line is that both the OMB and the CBO show that this idiotic liberalism is completely and totally unsustainable.

Nobody said get rid of defense, just scale down its global mission and spend the money on We the People like other countries get to

 

[P@triot]

More indisputable evidence that the budget crisis is idiot liberal socialism and not defense.

Sources are the OMB (Office of Management & Budget) and the CBO (Congressional Budget Office). I point that out because libtards will inevitably scream "Pfff! Heritage" when the info comes from their own precious government itself...

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Any sane person would rather spend money on AMERICANS than on being the policeman of the world.

I would rather spend money on schools, medical care, infrastructure, helping the poor than on another carrier task force

Of course you would. Anything to get government throwing money in your direction. But here's the thing chief - the U.S. Constitution makes defense the responsibility of the federal government. Education, medical care, "helping the poor", and your other absurd liberal talking points are not the responsibility of the federal government and are therefore unconstitutional for the federal government to involve themselves in.

But the bottom line is that both the OMB and the CBO show that this idiotic liberalism is completely and totally unsustainable.

Nobody said get rid of defense, just scale down its global mission and spend the money on We the People like other countries get to

Money is not intended to be spent on "We the People" by government because "you the parasites" don't want to take responsibility for your own lives.

Here's the thing - if you love what other countries do so much - then go live there. We're the United States. And our system is what created the greatest super power in world history. It's the idiocy you advocate of mimicking other failed nations that are beneath us which is dragging us down.

You have to ask what kind of insanity it takes to tell a person with an A+ average to copy the actions, study habits, etc. of a D- student. That's exactly what you're doing genius. All because you don't want to hold a job. SMH. Nobody knows how to lower the bar like a liberal.

By the way - I never accused you of claiming we should get rid of defense. I actually agree with you 100% on that point. We do need to scale it to our national security interest and global missions. Which is exactly why we need a drastic increase in defense spending. Almost every single member of the military from the grunts all the way up to the generals are on record stating that Obama's gutting of our military has made is so that they cannot perform their mission of defending this nation properly. Hell, we're scavenging museums for the damn parts we need to keep an aircraft in the air. That's insane.

 

[rightwinger]

More indisputable evidence that the budget crisis is idiot liberal socialism and not defense.

Sources are the OMB (Office of Management & Budget) and the CBO (Congressional Budget Office). I point that out because libtards will inevitably scream "Pfff! Heritage" when the info comes from their own precious government itself...

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Any sane person would rather spend money on AMERICANS than on being the policeman of the world.

I would rather spend money on schools, medical care, infrastructure, helping the poor than on another carrier task force

Of course you would. Anything to get government throwing money in your direction. But here's the thing chief - the U.S. Constitution makes defense the responsibility of the federal government. Education, medical care, "helping the poor", and your other absurd liberal talking points are not the responsibility of the federal government and are therefore unconstitutional for the federal government to involve themselves in.

But the bottom line is that both the OMB and the CBO show that this idiotic liberalism is completely and totally unsustainable.

Nobody said get rid of defense, just scale down its global mission and spend the money on We the People like other countries get to

Money is not intended to be spent on "We the People" by government because "you the parasites" don't want to take responsibility for your own lives.

Here's the thing - if you love what other countries do so much - then go live there. We're the United States. And our system is what created the greatest super power in world history. It's the idiocy you advocate of mimicking other failed nations that are beneath us which is dragging us down.

You have to ask what kind of insanity it takes to tell a person with an A+ average to copy the actions, study habits, etc. of a D- student. That's exactly what you're doing genius. All because you don't want to hold a job. SMH. Nobody knows how to lower the bar like a liberal.

By the way - I never accused you of claiming we should get rid of defense. I actually agree with you 100% on that point. We do need to scale it to our national security interest and global missions. Which is exactly why we need a drastic increase in defense spending. Almost every single member of the military from the grunts all the way up to the generals are on record stating that Obama's gutting of our military has made is so that they cannot perform their mission of defending this nation properly. Hell, we're scavenging museums for the damn parts we need to keep an aircraft in the air. That's insane.

Not going to argue government with an anarchist

Might as well discuss steak houses with a vegan

 

[P@triot]

More indisputable evidence that the budget crisis is idiot liberal socialism and not defense.

Sources are the OMB (Office of Management & Budget) and the CBO (Congressional Budget Office). I point that out because libtards will inevitably scream "Pfff! Heritage" when the info comes from their own precious government itself...

View attachment 81927

Any sane person would rather spend money on AMERICANS than on being the policeman of the world.

I would rather spend money on schools, medical care, infrastructure, helping the poor than on another carrier task force

Of course you would. Anything to get government throwing money in your direction. But here's the thing chief - the U.S. Constitution makes defense the responsibility of the federal government. Education, medical care, "helping the poor", and your other absurd liberal talking points are not the responsibility of the federal government and are therefore unconstitutional for the federal government to involve themselves in.

But the bottom line is that both the OMB and the CBO show that this idiotic liberalism is completely and totally unsustainable.

Nobody said get rid of defense, just scale down its global mission and spend the money on We the People like other countries get to

Money is not intended to be spent on "We the People" by government because "you the parasites" don't want to take responsibility for your own lives.

Here's the thing - if you love what other countries do so much - then go live there. We're the United States. And our system is what created the greatest super power in world history. It's the idiocy you advocate of mimicking other failed nations that are beneath us which is dragging us down.

You have to ask what kind of insanity it takes to tell a person with an A+ average to copy the actions, study habits, etc. of a D- student. That's exactly what you're doing genius. All because you don't want to hold a job. SMH. Nobody knows how to lower the bar like a liberal.

By the way - I never accused you of claiming we should get rid of defense. I actually agree with you 100% on that point. We do need to scale it to our national security interest and global missions. Which is exactly why we need a drastic increase in defense spending. Almost every single member of the military from the grunts all the way up to the generals are on record stating that Obama's gutting of our military has made is so that they cannot perform their mission of defending this nation properly. Hell, we're scavenging museums for the damn parts we need to keep an aircraft in the air. That's insane.

Not going to argue government with an anarchist

Might as well discuss steak houses with a vegan

Nice straw man. But I'm not an "anarchist" junior. Hell, I'm not even a Sovereign Citizen. Double hell, I'm not even a libertarian! You're just pissed off that the U.S. Constitution proves you're wrong and an unhinged radical, and that economics (including projections from both the OMB and CBO) prove that you're ideology is unsustainable.

You're a socialist. You can't admit what you are. You can't admit that you're ideology is a failed ideology. And you can't admit that you don't know what you're talking about.

 

[initforme]

As all budgets need to be trimmed defense should be included. Simple common sense. SiMPLE. Trim the fat.

 

[P@triot]

As all budgets need to be trimmed defense should be included. Simple common sense. SiMPLE. Trim the fat.

Trim the fat for sure! And if there is some budget in the defense that could be better spent on defense, I'm all for that. But the biggest "FAT" is the unconstitutional bullshit like Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Obamacare, etc.

 

[rightwinger]

Any sane person would rather spend money on AMERICANS than on being the policeman of the world.

I would rather spend money on schools, medical care, infrastructure, helping the poor than on another carrier task force

Of course you would. Anything to get government throwing money in your direction. But here's the thing chief - the U.S. Constitution makes defense the responsibility of the federal government. Education, medical care, "helping the poor", and your other absurd liberal talking points are not the responsibility of the federal government and are therefore unconstitutional for the federal government to involve themselves in.

But the bottom line is that both the OMB and the CBO show that this idiotic liberalism is completely and totally unsustainable.

Nobody said get rid of defense, just scale down its global mission and spend the money on We the People like other countries get to

Money is not intended to be spent on "We the People" by government because "you the parasites" don't want to take responsibility for your own lives.

Here's the thing - if you love what other countries do so much - then go live there. We're the United States. And our system is what created the greatest super power in world history. It's the idiocy you advocate of mimicking other failed nations that are beneath us which is dragging us down.

You have to ask what kind of insanity it takes to tell a person with an A+ average to copy the actions, study habits, etc. of a D- student. That's exactly what you're doing genius. All because you don't want to hold a job. SMH. Nobody knows how to lower the bar like a liberal.

By the way - I never accused you of claiming we should get rid of defense. I actually agree with you 100% on that point. We do need to scale it to our national security interest and global missions. Which is exactly why we need a drastic increase in defense spending. Almost every single member of the military from the grunts all the way up to the generals are on record stating that Obama's gutting of our military has made is so that they cannot perform their mission of defending this nation properly. Hell, we're scavenging museums for the damn parts we need to keep an aircraft in the air. That's insane.

Not going to argue government with an anarchist

Might as well discuss steak houses with a vegan

Nice straw man. But I'm not an "anarchist" junior. Hell, I'm not even a Sovereign Citizen. Double hell, I'm not even a libertarian! You're just pissed off that the U.S. Constitution proves you're wrong and an unhinged radical, and that economics (including projections from both the OMB and CBO) prove that you're ideology is unsustainable.

You're a socialist. You can't admit what you are. You can't admit that you're ideology is a failed ideology. And you can't admit that you don't know what you're talking about.

Anarchist

 

[P@triot]

Of course you would. Anything to get government throwing money in your direction. But here's the thing chief - the U.S. Constitution makes defense the responsibility of the federal government. Education, medical care, "helping the poor", and your other absurd liberal talking points are not the responsibility of the federal government and are therefore unconstitutional for the federal government to involve themselves in.

But the bottom line is that both the OMB and the CBO show that this idiotic liberalism is completely and totally unsustainable.

Nobody said get rid of defense, just scale down its global mission and spend the money on We the People like other countries get to

Money is not intended to be spent on "We the People" by government because "you the parasites" don't want to take responsibility for your own lives.

Here's the thing - if you love what other countries do so much - then go live there. We're the United States. And our system is what created the greatest super power in world history. It's the idiocy you advocate of mimicking other failed nations that are beneath us which is dragging us down.

You have to ask what kind of insanity it takes to tell a person with an A+ average to copy the actions, study habits, etc. of a D- student. That's exactly what you're doing genius. All because you don't want to hold a job. SMH. Nobody knows how to lower the bar like a liberal.

By the way - I never accused you of claiming we should get rid of defense. I actually agree with you 100% on that point. We do need to scale it to our national security interest and global missions. Which is exactly why we need a drastic increase in defense spending. Almost every single member of the military from the grunts all the way up to the generals are on record stating that Obama's gutting of our military has made is so that they cannot perform their mission of defending this nation properly. Hell, we're scavenging museums for the damn parts we need to keep an aircraft in the air. That's insane.

Not going to argue government with an anarchist

Might as well discuss steak houses with a vegan

Nice straw man. But I'm not an "anarchist" junior. Hell, I'm not even a Sovereign Citizen. Double hell, I'm not even a libertarian! You're just pissed off that the U.S. Constitution proves you're wrong and an unhinged radical, and that economics (including projections from both the OMB and CBO) prove that you're ideology is unsustainable.

You're a socialist. You can't admit what you are. You can't admit that you're ideology is a failed ideology. And you can't admit that you don't know what you're talking about.

Anarchist

You're not an "anarchist". You're a communist.

 

[JoeB131]

Of course you would. Anything to get government throwing money in your direction. But here's the thing chief - the U.S. Constitution makes defense the responsibility of the federal government. Education, medical care, "helping the poor", and your other absurd liberal talking points are not the responsibility of the federal government and are therefore unconstitutional for the federal government to involve themselves in.

Yup, because the Founding Slave Rapists didn't think of what would happen if the average life expectancy increased to 78.

Clearly, we need to be limited to their lack of humanity and imagination...

But the bottom line is that both the OMB and the CBO show that this idiotic liberalism is completely and totally unsustainable.

No it isn't. You just make the rich pay their fair share. Easy-peasy.

 

[hadit]

The false liberal narrative is that we have some insane, unimaginable defense budget that is "bloated", "unnecessary", and "wasteful". They of course follow that false narrative up with "take that money and use it on public assistance". And that is why they are lying about the defense budget. Because the socialist "public assistance" agenda is unsustainable. It is bankrupting this nation and the left doesn't want to let go of it. So they create a false narrative about something (defense) which is not only exponentially more vital, but also the constitutional responsibility of the federal government.

The military has actually been forced under Barack Obama to scavenge museums for the airplane parts they need to keep their aircrafts flying. That is absolutely inexcusable. It's something one would expect from the Soviet Union as they were collapsing - not from the world's elite super-power. And it is the result of liberals gutting the defense budget over and over and over while throwing trillions of dollars at the welfare class in order to purchase votes.

The men and women who server in our military deserve much better than this. They deserve the best. The best supply chain. The best parts. The best technology. The best equipment. And the best benefits (healthcare, education, etc.). Traditionally, the military has voted Republican for this very reason. The left should be ashamed at how they not only treat our military (which is worse than dirt) but also how they advocate to take more money from them and treat them even worse than they do now. Not only should we not cut the defense budget one penny more - we should increase the defense budget at least 50% (if not double it).

• Marine Corps mechanics have had to scavenge F-18 parts from museums to keep their planes flying. Even with the scavenging, only 30% of those F-18s are ready to fly today. Unfortunately, similar serious challenges face all the military services.

• The 2016 Index of U.S. Military Strength looked at the size, capabilities, and readiness of each part of the military and concluded that as a package the military is only “marginal” in its ability to protect America.

• The Army, which just became the smallest since before World War II, fell even lower to a “weak” rating due to the dramatic cuts in its size and readiness.

Congress Must Act Now to Start Rebuilding the US Military

It would be hard to scavenge for parts of an F-35.......Oh and sequestration was a GOP idea.....

Actually, it was Obama's idea. They just agreed and let him have it, which they always did.

Obama played them like a fiddle. He wanted to gut defense all along. When he got them to "compromise" on sequestration being to defense, he made sure to over spend so that sequestration would kick in. He not only got to throw money at everyone to purchase votes, but he also got to automatically gut defense. It was a perfect win-win for him.

It is a rightwing myth that Obama gutted the military. Any cuts were a result of Congressional sequestration. All they had to do was agree on a budget

He does not seem to understand how it works..that it is several hundred who decide what budgets go where, not one man...

Hey, it was Obama's idea from the beginning. The Republicans just gave him what he wanted, as usual.