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Goddamit, will you read the actual words? I said, three times now that Christianity influence the culture a great deal but the founders were wise enough to create a secular rule book. The Constitution does not promote or inhibit religion.I said Christianity was very influential. I then said but we had a secular guideline. you asked what it was and I said the Constitution. Now you are supporting my culture comment. The year of our lord is a phrase regarding the time, quite common in the day. It's not a mandate or law. You are trying to fit facts into a belief.The Constitution.What is the 'secular guide book'?
I was hoping you'd say that.
It was based largely in the Bible....and has a reference to Jesus Christ therein.
1. "Thirty-four percent of all the quotes by the founding fathers came from the Bible. Also, men like Blackstone and Locke, whom the founders quoted, took much of their own quotes from the Bible. Our three branches of government came from Isaiah 33:22. Tax exemption for churches came from Ezra 7:24, which no other nation has today. The book of Deuteronomy was the most quoted book of the Bible by our founding fathers. This book deals much with civil government. This is why America was founded as a republic, not a democracy. We are governed by constitutional law, not by majority law. Our founding fathers, who framed the constitution realized that governments of democracy were short lived and ended in bondage. Democracies are only a step from anarchy."
http://www.fundamentalfaith.com/id38.htm
2. This sort of thing:
The oath of office of the Supreme Court is almost identical with this from the bible:
Here is the oath taken by Supreme Court Justices:
I, _________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will administer justice without respect to persons, and do equal right to the poor and to the rich, and that I will faithfully and impartially discharge and perform all the duties incumbent upon me as _________ under the Constitution and laws of the United States.
QED: Bill's wife has no understanding of either justice, nor of the Supreme Court's role.
I hope all notice how similar that oath is to this:
"Do not twist justice in legal matters by favoring the poor or being partial to the rich and powerful. Always judge people fairly."
Leviticus 19:15
3. "Despite the secular nature of our national government, there is one unambiguous reference to Christ in the Constitution. Article VII dates the Constitution in "the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven."
"The Year of Our Lord" and separation.
The reference is there, and if there has been any attempt at 'a secular nation,' it wouldn't have been.
“52 of the 56 signers of the declaration and 50 to 52 of the 55 signers of the Constitution were orthodox Trinitarian Christians.” David Limbaugh
Believers in the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, or, as they would be known today, “an extremist Fundementalist hate group.”
Coulter
OK....Ok!!!!!
In the fervent hope of avoiding another scolding, I'd like to agree with this...
"The Constitution does not promote or inhibit religion"...
...and add that, under Liberals and Progressives, it is not only not honored....but they thumb their nose at same.