Conservative SCOTUS Justices FAIL: Backdoor Legislating by Marriage Attrition

[Ibentoken]

Fascist queers.

Blog New America Ordained ministers threatened with jail unless they perform same sex marriages

Iben, sleazily if constant in his efforts to misdirect, fails to tell you that the ministers run a marriage for profit business, the Hitching Post Wedding Chapel.

Public accommodations law rule in that case, that their religious opinions in the public forum.

The Constitution overrides laws forcing people to violate their religious beliefs. Whine all you want.

 

[Ibentoken]

No problem. Such preachers can't do it as a business in the public sector, without doing for everyone.

Wrong. Constitution. We still have one. Your law does not have the authority to force any American to violate their religious belief.

 

[Syriusly]

http://www.pphp.concordia.ca/fac/pfaus/Pfaus-Kippin-Centeno(2001).pdf

Conditioning and Sexual Behavior: A Review
James G. Pfaus,
1 Tod E. Kippin, and Soraya Centeno
Center for Studies in Behavioral Neurobiology, Department of Psychology, Concordia
University, 1455 deMaisonneuve Bldg. W., Montre´al, Que´bec, H3G 1M8 Canada
Received August 9, 2000, accepted March 1, 2001

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And what does this study say?

Not one thing about homosexuality. This study is primarily about sexuality in animals- with some suggestions about how human MAY work.

. In an incentive motivation analysis,
sexually imprinted and conditioned stimuli would be
expected to have more powerful influences in the
absence of direct sexual UCSs. This would indeed be
the case in men for whom the reproductive status of
women cannot be determined directly.

Here is the study by Pfaus you will never refer to- because it does address homosexuality in humans- and directly refutes your claims.

file:///C:/Users/jmorse/Downloads/Archives%20of%20sexual%20behavior%202012%20Pfaus.pdf
Who, What, Where, When (and Maybe Even Why)? How
the Experience of Sexual Reward Connects Sexual Desire,
Preference, and Performance

And in the case of homosexuality, it would seem
that innate causes play a large role in determining sexual orientation
long before sexual activity and sexual reward is initiated. Indeed,
sexual partner preferences that are not geared toward reproduction
(as in homosexuality )or that are highly constrained by the presence
or absence of inanimate objects (as in many paraphilias) should
eithernotexistorshouldconfersomeotherreproductivebenefit.
One such benefit could be related to kin selection

Pfaus directly refutes your claims.

Pfaus calls homosexuality 'innate'

 

[Syriusly]

Though unlike Milk taking his own minor adopted ward to sodomize [Jack McKinley] e]

It is hard to keep up with all of the lies in one of your posts.

But this is another whopper.

Which begs the question: IF anti-gay activists feel compelled to lie to promote their anti-gay activism- how sick is that?

 

[Syriusly]

No problem. Such preachers can't do it as a business in the public sector, without doing for everyone.

Wrong. Constitution. We still have one. Your law does not have the authority to force any American to violate their religious belief.

Wrong- the courts have repeatedly addressed this.

Seventh Day Adventists cannot prevent their children from receiving medical care.
Religious cults that want to sacrifice animals don't have the right to sacrifice them in violation of local laws.

And as has been pointed out- no person can deny service to a Jew just because he says it would violate his religious belief.

In states where there are laws against sexual orientation discrimination, it is the same thing.

 

[Syriusly]

Fascist queers.

Blog New America Ordained ministers threatened with jail unless they perform same sex marriages

Don't want to marry Jews, blacks or homosexuals for religious reasons?

Don't run a business performing weddings

Packages The Hitching Post

True Love Wedding Package
Includes:

• Minister
• Decorated Chapel
• Music during the ceremony
• Limited time usage of changing room
• Filing your marriage license with the County Recorder

Pricing:

• Monday – Thursday 9am – 5pm: $80.00
• Friday – Saturday 9am – 5pm: $90.00
• Holidays, after hours, Sundays – fees vary slightly
• Gratuity to minister accepted

Reserve Now

 

[Ibentoken]

No problem. Such preachers can't do it as a business in the public sector, without doing for everyone.

Wrong. Constitution. We still have one. Your law does not have the authority to force any American to violate their religious belief.

Wrong- the courts have repeatedly addressed this.

Seventh Day Adventists cannot prevent their children from receiving medical care.
Religious cults that want to sacrifice animals don't have the right to sacrifice them in violation of local laws.

And as has been pointed out- no person can deny service to a Jew just because he says it would violate his religious belief.

In states where there are laws against sexual orientation discrimination, it is the same thing.

Christianity isn't a cult. You can't put people in jail for refusing to violate their belief in marriage. This is America. You're gonna lose this one.

 

[Ibentoken]

Fascist queers.

Blog New America Ordained ministers threatened with jail unless they perform same sex marriages

Don't want to marry Jews, blacks or homosexuals for religious reasons?

Don't run a business performing weddings

Packages The Hitching Post

True Love Wedding Package
Includes:

• Minister
• Decorated Chapel
• Music during the ceremony
• Limited time usage of changing room
• Filing your marriage license with the County Recorder

Pricing:

• Monday – Thursday 9am – 5pm: $80.00
• Friday – Saturday 9am – 5pm: $90.00
• Holidays, after hours, Sundays – fees vary slightly
• Gratuity to minister accepted

Reserve Now

Now you're muddying the water. This is about queers, not ethnicity.

 

[JakeStarkey]

No problem. Such preachers can't do it as a business in the public sector, without doing for everyone.

Wrong. Constitution. We still have one. Your law does not have the authority to force any American to violate their religious belief.

You don't understand the Constitution, OK.

 

[JakeStarkey]

iben, this is about civil rights in the public square and the private space.

You can't have a marriage business in the public square for profit and deny your service to certain people.

 

[JakeStarkey]

iben, this is about civil rights in the public square and the private space.

You can't have a marriage business in the public square for profit and deny your service to certain people.

The government agency can issue a business violation, place a huge performance bond, and let the business sue. When it loses, it won't be able to pay the bond, and can be confiscated by the government for failure to pay.

 

[Silhouette]

Now you're muddying the water. This is about queers, not ethnicity.

"Queers" being a minority behavioral group [de facto cult], are dictating to the majority. In the name of "equal rights" which other behaviors, should they organize and give themselves a moniker, be allowed to dictate to the majority? Rhetorical question since the answer is "any and all of them". Otherwise you'd be discriminating against them.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The majority now support this "minority", as do the courts and the states.

Sux to be haters.

 

[Silhouette]

The majority now support this "minority", as do the courts and the states.

Sux to be haters.

No, they don't.... Check out the polls...

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[JakeStarkey]

Yes, the do, post the latest polls and all of the polls in the last ten years, and the movement from in minority to clear majority are very clear. The courts, majority of the states, and the majority of the citizens oppose you.

 

[Ibentoken]

No problem. Such preachers can't do it as a business in the public sector, without doing for everyone.

Wrong. Constitution. We still have one. Your law does not have the authority to force any American to violate their religious belief.

You don't understand the Constitution, OK.

Tell me what part I don't understand.

 

[Ibentoken]

iben, this is about civil rights in the public square and the private space.

You can't have a marriage business in the public square for profit and deny your service to certain people.

Yes, you can. Your so called civil rights end when you deny my constitutional religious rights. You can find a preacher who will marry queers.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Nope, you can't as they will find out. They are operating a wedding factory at the chapel for pay, so yep they are subject to the law.

 

[Ibentoken]

Nope, you can't as they will find out. They are operating a wedding factory at the chapel for pay, so yep they are subject to the law.

The law is subject to the constitution. The supreme court will get one of these soon. I'll remind you of your folly when they rule.

 

[Syriusly]

Fascist queers.

Blog New America Ordained ministers threatened with jail unless they perform same sex marriages

Don't want to marry Jews, blacks or homosexuals for religious reasons?

Don't run a business performing weddings

Packages The Hitching Post

True Love Wedding Package
Includes:

• Minister
• Decorated Chapel
• Music during the ceremony
• Limited time usage of changing room
• Filing your marriage license with the County Recorder

Pricing:

• Monday – Thursday 9am – 5pm: $80.00
• Friday – Saturday 9am – 5pm: $90.00
• Holidays, after hours, Sundays – fees vary slightly
• Gratuity to minister accepted

Reserve Now

Now you're muddying the water. This is about queers, not ethnicity.

Discrimination is discrimination.

No muddying the waters- if you want to discriminate against a man because he is Jewish or because he is gay- it is just the same.