Conservative SCOTUS Justices FAIL: Backdoor Legislating by Marriage Attrition

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Well, you knew it was coming....a rant from the middle. :blowup:

It only takes four votes in SCOTUS to hear a case. All it would've taken to prevent all of this was the four Conservative Justices voting to hear these appeals. But instead they chose to cave to an untested social trend born of the outspin of the groovy 1960s free-love cult. And in the end they have sacraficed the wellbeing of children on the altar of political pressures. Our conservative principles have finally been abandoned by the last bastion in place to preserve them... Vote accordingly... Independents anyone?

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court unexpectedly cleared the way Monday for a dramatic expansion of gay marriage in the United States and may have signaled that it's only a matter of time before same-sex couples can marry in all 50 states.

Rejecting appeals from five states seeking to preserve their bans, the Supreme Court effectively made such marriages legal in 30 states, up from 19 and the District of Columbia, taking in every region of the country. Supreme Court clears the way for gay marriage expansion Sun Journal

Just as all the LGBT cultees are doing, polygamists may now in any of the states with no legal marriage laws on the books [Courtesy of SCOTUS' de facto legislating-from-the-bench-by-refusing-to-hear-allowing-attrition "Decision]. Attrition not only applies just to LGBTs. ANY person so desiring to be married to any other person or persons in any of the affected attrition-states may marry. Could Polygamists Sue To Marry In California Right Now US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

From this thread we have the below conversation:
9th Circuit Assumes Legislative Power In Same Sex Marriage Case Page 6 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

...Abiding by the intentions and beliefs under which a law is adopted is in fact rooted in English common law and dates back many hundreds of years and has over three hundred years of practice on American soil! Unfortunately our Courts have found a clever way to circumvent this fundamental rule by creating a number of "tests" unknown to our founding fathers and are used today to impose its will upon the people. These "tests" began to appear and gain a foothold during the Warren Court of the l960’s. One such test was the "rationality" test under which a law being challenged had to withstand the court’s judgment that the law in question was "rationally based" or "reasonable" to survive the court‘s review. Of course, this allows the court to switch the subject from what is and what is not constitutional, to an arbitrarily answered question having nothing to do with whether or not a law is in harmony with the legislative intent of our Constitution.

Whether rational or not, a law which violates the Constitution cannot be justified as being constitutional if it is rationally based! Likewise, if a law is not rationally based it is not the Court’s job to second guess the wisdom of the legislature! To do so is to usurp legislative authority and dissolve our Constitution’s separation of powers!

Indeed, this violation took place when the 9th Circuit Court decided to judge if bans on same-sex couples promotes "the welfare of children, by encouraging good parenting in stable opposite sex families" instead of expounding upon the documented intentions of the 14th Amendment to support its arbitrary and erroneous conclusion, that the Idaho ban on sex-sex "marriage" is a " violation of the Equal Protection Clause."
JWK

"The public welfare demands that constitutional cases must be decided according to the terms of the Constitution itself, and not according to judges' views of fairness, reasonableness, or justice." -- Justice Hugo L. Black ( U.S. Supreme Court Justice, 1886 - 1971) Source: Lecture, Columbia University, 1968

I would say that one test of any such law is how integral it is to Constitutional protections already longstanding and unquestioned. And further most recently reiterated by Windsor 2013. The right for states to self-govern with respect to HUMAN BEHAVIORS [verb] [not race, not religion, not country of origin or one's gender][nouns] is the most fundamental right of any state or its citizens/voters. Any question of law that challenges that right must not dominate it in the interim as those appeals go upward.

The default decision must always be the one that supports the most fundamental right of all: the right to democracy. The challanger has the burden. Just like any plaintiff, "the burden is upon you" to show how accepted foundations of law "must be overruled". This SCOTUS is not only de facto legislating outside its authority [by refusing to hear these most compelling cases...attrition...] but is actually dissolving the bedrock of the constitution in the interim.

What they've effectively done is eradicated any binding description of marriage now in any of these states. And as such, ANYONE can marry there RIGHT NOW. It isn't limited to just LGBT cultees swarming the county clerks' offices to 'marry their way into legality '. Polygamists, siblings, anyone...could march in and "legally" [since there are no laws now] demand a marriage licence. Turning them away would be arbitrary and discriminatory.

ie: By refusing to hear the cases, the SCOTUS has created a situation of complete lawlessness as to the most fundamental institution of our nation [marriage] and as such, the children will suffer. This was a calculated decision to legislate without making it look like they are legislating. They know that the attrition happening in the interim during the "convenient/effective limbo-legislation" is the same as a sweeping federal protection for gay marriage issued from the bench. And I hold the conservative Justices accountable since only 4 Justices were needed to bring this case before the Bench.

I'm rethinking my crossover voting as we speak...

Every Justice should hang their head in shame. This is why the most careful selection of the most unbiased, fair and wise man or woman selected for the seat of Supreme Court Justice should be one of the most exhaustive searches a President and Congress should do. Playing partisan politics is a byproduct of malignant capitalism and everyone grappling for dominance from whichever ilk they hearken from. And it is KILLING this country.

I get it. We're on the eve of a pivotal election. But this is beyond the pale. Unless the GOP has a last minute plan to pull up from this nosedive, my respect for the strong party [who knuckles under to gay pressures?] is in the TOILET. Playing partisan politics with our nation's most fundamental conservative institution [marriage] has rendered the conservative party as much of a common streewalking prostitute as any leftwing nutjob.

You made people angry all right. Especially when we know that it is, in essence, the fault of conservatives now and not those who "know not what they do" who forced us to hand off to future generations "gay marriage" and all the unknown but predictable outfalls of this.

We've seen the culture. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to extrapolate what this means for society, our children and our future...

THIS MARRIAGE vv BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE FOUR "CONSERVATIVE" JUSTICES AND THEIR POLITICAL PARTY OF "ROLLOVER AND TAKE IT"..

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Enjoy kids!
 
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You are nowhere near the "middle" but feel free to rant to your heart's content.

Your ranting won't make a blind bit of difference to the final outcome.

States will still be entitled to regulate marriage as long as they don't infringe upon the equal rights of all Americans to marry the consenting adult of their choice.

By the time Obama leaves office I am anticipating that there will be 39 states that endorse gay marriage and challenges in the remaining states to recognize the gay marriages conducted in other states.
 
You are nowhere near the "middle" but feel free to rant to your heart's content.

Your ranting won't make a blind bit of difference to the final outcome.

States will still be entitled to regulate marriage as long as they don't infringe upon the equal rights of all Americans to marry the consenting adult of their choice.

By the time Obama leaves office I am anticipating that there will be 39 states that endorse gay marriage and challenges in the remaining states to recognize the gay marriages conducted in other states.
Yep the slide of society into the gutter of immorality deepens. Idiots.
 
So you are saying your party threw your moral compass under the buss??


Maybe they were just tired of being in the closet
Whatever the motivation. I just cannot respect and more importantly support at the polls a party who knowingly allows the furthest liberal left damaging agenda to overtake it without so much as a *peep*. And worse, who enables it to spread by attrition; which is exactly what's happening.

You can't tell me that Justice Roberts, Scalia, Alito & Thomas "didn't know" that this state of lawlessness they've created wasn't "legislation by limbo". By their refusal to take up this Century's most important legal question [for how far the ramifications of a torpedo to man/woman marriage will extrapolate into future generations, society and the country as a whole in every conceivable direction], they did knowingly aid and abet gay marriage being forced on your state, dear reader, against your will. So when you are watching two dudes kissing at an altar preparing to be fake "mommy and daddy" to little kids they're going to force adoption agencies in your state to relinquish to their custody, you can turn to the good old GOP and thank them. Because all that was needed was the four of their steady-eddies in the SCOTUS to vote to take this matter up.

Now even as just a few weeks pass...or months before any GOP senators can be sworn in, or GOP assume control of Congress, it will be too late because so much attrition to standing marriage laws [by attrition of gays stuffing the clerk's offices] that there will be no hope at all of recovering a normal situation to be held out as the incentivized family for children's benefit.

Thanks conservatives for giving orphans gay "moms and dads" and their accompanying cultural values [see photos in the OP] as a matter of law.

PUNISH THE GOP AT THE POLLS. Let them win...but only by the slimmest of margins..

Vote independants or simply don't show up. Send a goddamned message to the republicans that we no longer believe they are the conservative party..
 
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You are nowhere near the "middle" but feel free to rant to your heart's content.

Your ranting won't make a blind bit of difference to the final outcome.

States will still be entitled to regulate marriage as long as they don't infringe upon the equal rights of all Americans to marry the consenting adult of their choice.

By the time Obama leaves office I am anticipating that there will be 39 states that endorse gay marriage and challenges in the remaining states to recognize the gay marriages conducted in other states.
Yep the slide of society into the gutter of immorality deepens. Idiots.

Prove that it is "immoral" that all Americans be treated equally under the law.
 
So you are saying your party threw your moral compass under the buss??


Maybe they were just tired of being in the closet
Whatever the motivation. I just cannot respect and more importantly support at the polls a party who knowingly allows the furthest liberal left damaging agenda to overtake it without so much as a *peep*. And worse, who enables it to spread by attrition; which is exactly what's happening.

You can't tell me that Justice Roberts, Scalia, Alito & Thomas "didn't know" that this state of lawlessness they've created wasn't "legislation by limbo". By their refusal to take up this Century's most important legal question [for how far the ramifications of a torpedo to man/woman marriage will extrapolate into future generations, society and the country as a whole in every conceivable direction], they did knowingly aid and abet gay marriage being forced on your state, dear reader, against your will. So when you are watching two dudes kissing at an altar preparing to be fake "mommy and daddy" to little kids they're going to force adoption agencies in your state to relinquish to their custody, you can turn to the good old GOP and thank them. Because all that was needed was the four of their steady-eddies in the SCOTUS to vote to take this matter up.

Now even as just a few weeks pass...or months before any GOP senators can be sworn in, or GOP assume control of Congress, it will be too late because so much attrition to standing marriage laws [by attrition of gays stuffing the clerk's offices] that there will be no hope at all of recovering a normal situation to be held out as the incentivized family for children's benefit.

Thanks conservatives for giving orphans gay "moms and dads" and their accompanying cultural values [see photos in the OP] as a matter of law.

The OP is in the second stage of grief (anger) now that he is forced to come to terms with losing on the gay marriage issue.
 
The OP is in the second stage of grief (anger) now that he is forced to come to terms with losing on the gay marriage issue.

I'm not the only one. And you know how I'm going to work through my grief and nausea in the face of the conservatives throwing orphaned children under the bus of political belly-pissing? I'm going to encourage as many middle dems that I know to protest by not voting conservative. And if they cannot bring themselves to vote for an independent, they should stay home this Fall.

I imagine after the first week in November I'll be working towards my "acceptance" phase of grieving for the little kids. Until then, I'll be vacillating between "anger and bargaining"...

Yep, I'm going viral. I'm done with the likes of you "conservatives". Drill filth into our last fresh aquifers and throw our vulnerable orphans to gay sex street performers for the kids?

Enjoy. :dev3:
 
Prove that it is "immoral" that all Americans be treated equally under the law.

Think: "Children's wellbeing" and then look at the photos in the OP.

Next easy proof?

That far more children are at risk from heterosexual adults than homosexuals is the only thing you have every proven, Sil.
 
The OP is in the second stage of grief (anger) now that he is forced to come to terms with losing on the gay marriage issue.

I'm not the only one. And you know how I'm going to work through my grief and nausea in the face of the conservatives throwing orphaned children under the bus of political belly-pissing? I'm going to encourage as many middle dems that I know to protest by not voting conservative. And if they cannot bring themselves to vote for an independent, they should stay home this Fall.

I imagine after the first week in November I'll be working towards my "acceptance" phase of grieving for the little kids. Until then, I'll be vacillating between "anger and bargaining"...

Yep, I'm going viral. I'm done with the likes of you "conservatives". Drill filth into our last fresh aquifers and throw our vulnerable orphans to gay sex street performers for the kids?

Enjoy. :dev3:


:itsok:
 
I grieve for all abused children, Sil, and I know those abused by heteros are thirty to forty times more than homosexuals. And you can't disprove that.

You have lost.

I told you a long time ago that you would lose.

Take your program to "all abused" children, and I will join you. Keep up your nonsense and I will continue to successfully oppose you.

I am sorry what happened to you, but it is time for you to encompass the problem of all abused children. I have.
 
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The OP is in the second stage of grief (anger) now that he is forced to come to terms with losing on the gay marriage issue.

I'm not the only one. And you know how I'm going to work through my grief and nausea in the face of the conservatives throwing orphaned children under the bus of political belly-pissing? I'm going to encourage as many middle dems that I know to protest by not voting conservative. And if they cannot bring themselves to vote for an independent, they should stay home this Fall.

I imagine after the first week in November I'll be working towards my "acceptance" phase of grieving for the little kids. Until then, I'll be vacillating between "anger and bargaining"...

Yep, I'm going viral. I'm done with the likes of you "conservatives". Drill filth into our last fresh aquifers and throw our vulnerable orphans to gay sex street performers for the kids?

Enjoy. :dev3:

I'm going to encourage as many middle dems that I know to protest by not voting conservative. And if they cannot bring themselves to vote for an independent, they should stay home this Fall.

:cuckoo:

If they are "middle dems" why wouldn't they be voting for Dem candidates?
 
Conservative religious groups and a handful of Republican lawmakers decried the Supreme Court’s decision Monday to allow same-sex marriage rulings to stand in five states, saying it will help motivate voters to the polls in protest.

But most Republican leaders in Congress and elsewhere stayed relatively silent.. Conservatives decry Supreme Court s move on gay marriage - The Washington Post
This isn't from a shift in public opinion by the way. Look at the polling results on the top of this page: Should Churches be forced to accomodate for homosexual weddings US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum
That 82% represents people who aren't really all that much about gay marriage, are they? Are people just going along with this without thinking? LOOK at those pictures in the OP here. THAT is the value system we are now assigning our orphans to. Sex in front of and with kids? Have we lost our collective mind? And REPUBLICANS sit quietly about this? Who are our conservatives?
 
Conservative religious groups and a handful of Republican lawmakers decried the Supreme Court’s decision Monday to allow same-sex marriage rulings to stand in five states, saying it will help motivate voters to the polls in protest.

But most Republican leaders in Congress and elsewhere stayed relatively silent.. Conservatives decry Supreme Court s move on gay marriage - The Washington Post
This isn't from a shift in public opinion by the way. Look at the polling results on the top of this page: Should Churches be forced to accomodate for homosexual weddings US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum
That 82% represents people who aren't really all that much about gay marriage, are they? Are people just going along with this without thinking? LOOK at those pictures in the OP here. THAT is the value system we are now assigning our orphans to. Sex in front of and with kids? Have we lost our collective mind? And REPUBLICANS sit quietly about this? Who are our conservatives?

Stop pretending that you have 82% support for your homophobia.
 
Sorry tard I am straight but am happy for the gay community get their rights, and as a side note bonus seeing you mutants pissed off
Well this thread obviously isn't for you then. It's for the tens of millions like me who aren't thrilled their state's adoption agencies will soon be sued, like florists and cake makers and photographers to promote a subversive deviant sex cult straight into positions of authority over impressionable children.

You may go. I'm talking to the multiple millions who are pissed off at their conservative party for using children as a political party favor when they were banking that it "will look like the liberals did this". Sorry. We know the four conservatives on the Court could've prevented this attrition of the most fundamentally conservative principle of all: Marriage.

This thread is for the chic fil a democrats and true conservatives of all walks to wake up and figure out the scum on the right of the aisle that's selling your morals down the river to the lavendar reicht of the far, far left.
 

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