conservative are Republicans

[Two Thumbs]

All I'm saying is that...

You can call yourself anything you want, and that is up to you. However, when you step up to the plate and you put on the Republican uniform and you vote Republican, wether you are a liberal or a consrvative or a moderate you are called a Republican.

But I'm a registered Democrat that hasn't voted for a dem in decades.




this is all non-sense. it's a 2 party system, we are stuck with it until the rules get changed and that would require consencous from members of the 2 parties.

starting to hold my breath,,,,,,,,,,,,

NOW!

 

[spectrumc01]

What do you call a guy wearing a Yankees cap and jacket?

A Red Sox fan?


What do you call a guy that says he is voting for a republican?

A Democrat? No
A Liberal? No
A Libertarian? No
A conservative? No

You call him a Republican.

 

[spectrumc01]

All I'm saying is that...

You can call yourself anything you want, and that is up to you. However, when you step up to the plate and you put on the Republican uniform and you vote Republican, wether you are a liberal or a consrvative or a moderate you are called a Republican.

But I'm a registered Democrat that hasn't voted for a dem in decades.




this is all non-sense. it's a 2 party system, we are stuck with it until the rules get changed and that would require consencous from members of the 2 parties.

starting to hold my breath,,,,,,,,,,,,

NOW!

Next time you vote, look at the selections and you will see other parties listed and the representatives that are running for that party.

 

[Wry Catcher]

All I'm saying is that...

You can call yourself anything you want, and that is up to you. However, when you step up to the plate and you put on the Republican uniform and you vote Republican, wether you are a liberal or a consrvative or a moderate you are called a Republican.

But I'm a registered Democrat that hasn't voted for a dem in decades.




this is all non-sense. it's a 2 party system, we are stuck with it until the rules get changed and that would require consencous from members of the 2 parties.

starting to hold my breath,,,,,,,,,,,,

NOW!

There are plenty of political parties active in the U.S., most are small and one issue focused. Take your pick:

Project Vote Smart - Political Resources -

So, what are the five most pressing problems facing our nation today?

 

[Two Thumbs]

All I'm saying is that...

You can call yourself anything you want, and that is up to you. However, when you step up to the plate and you put on the Republican uniform and you vote Republican, wether you are a liberal or a consrvative or a moderate you are called a Republican.

But I'm a registered Democrat that hasn't voted for a dem in decades.




this is all non-sense. it's a 2 party system, we are stuck with it until the rules get changed and that would require consencous from members of the 2 parties.

starting to hold my breath,,,,,,,,,,,,

NOW!

There are plenty of political parties active in the U.S., most are small and one issue focused. Take your pick:

Project Vote Smart - Political Resources -

So, what are the five most pressing problems facing our nation today?

There are scores of Pol parties. In the end, they all pick the (R) or (D) to run under.

Sure there are always 1 or 2 that run (I), but we all know that the chance of them winning is a LOOOONNNGGG shot.

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The economy
jobs
illegal immagration
inport/export
inflation
value of the dollar
our credit rating

[I'm guessing w/o checking your link]

 

[Baruch Menachem]

So, all fluids are liquid, all air is gasses, stones are rocks and cats are felines.

So, now that we have established these truths, now what?

 

[spectrumc01]

So, all fluids are liquid, all air is gasses, stones are rocks and cats are felines.

So, now that we have established these truths, now what?

How do we get all the Republicans who were embarrassed by GWB, and proven to be the ones responsible for our current problems to take responsibility for their actions instead of claiming they aren't Republicans but Conservatives instead? Being that they are one in the same.

 

[Two Thumbs]

good lord

All this to blame Bush some more?

Grow the **** up, go outside, get some fresh air, then ask yourself; If it's still Bush's fault; Why is it worse now?

 

[spectrumc01]

good lord

All this to blame Bush some more?

Grow the **** up, go outside, get some fresh air, then ask yourself; If it's still Bush's fault; Why is it worse now?

This is not about blaming GWB, he is done and gone. What isn't done and gone are those who put him in charge. Given the opportunity they will put someone just like him or worse in the position of power. The reprecussions of what they did are still being felt. A presidents tenure is brief but his party seems to be everlasting.

 

[Nosmo King]

Let me see if I can crack the nut of this thread.

The OP contends that when Conservatives (an ideological group) votes, their votes tend to go to the Republican candidate most of the time if not always. Therefore, Conservatives are Republican by their voting record. But, not every Republican is Conservative enough to satisfy the hard core Conservatives who are now trying to co-opt the power base of the Republican Party.

In the coming election in 2012, Conservatives will vote for the Republican candidate only because that candidate will NOT be Barack Obama. Even if the Republican candidate does not pass muster with the extreme Conservatives, he (or she) will get that Conservative vote. Therefore, the Republican candidate, if victorious, will have to pander to the Conservative wing of the Republican Party and the fringe Conservatives, be they Tea Party, Libertarians, Secessionists or whatever.

My contention is: too many people have the ideology of Conservatism and the political identity of Republican so interlocked in their minds that any rational discussion is impossible. Further, the Conservatives will hang tough in their ideological bent to cripple any Republican elected official, thus further poisoning and polarizing the politics of this country.

Compromise is the lost art. The constitution is a study in compromise and I find it ironic that the Conservatives, who wrap themselves in the Constitution like an aegis, can't grasp that simple fact.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Let me see if I can crack the nut of this thread.

The OP contends that when Conservatives (an ideological group) votes, their votes tend to go to the Republican candidate most of the time if not always. b/c we have little else. "our guy" never gets close. Therefore, Conservatives are Republican by their voting record. Is there a "Conservative Party"? But, not every Republican is Conservative enough to satisfy the hard core Conservatives who are now trying to co-opt the power base of the Republican Party. Hammer and nail

In the coming election in 2012, Conservatives will vote for the Republican candidate only because that candidate will NOT be Barack Obama. No, many of us will toss our vote to the consevative (I) candidate again. Even if the Republican candidate does not pass muster with the extreme Conservatives, he (or she) will get that Conservative vote. Therefore, the Republican candidate, if victorious, will have to pander to the Conservative wing of the Republican Party and the fringe Conservatives, be they Tea Party, Libertarians, Secessionists or whatever. How does it feel to get pandered to?

My contention is: too many people have the ideology of Conservatism and the political identity of Republican so interlocked in their minds that any rational discussion is impossible. Further, the Conservatives will hang tough in their ideological bent to cripple any Republican elected official, thus further poisoning and polarizing the politics of this country. The same can be said for the progs.

Compromise is the lost art. I disagree. The constitution is a study in compromise and I find it ironic that the Conservatives, who wrap themselves in the Constitution like an aegis, can't grasp that simple fact. Look at the condition we are in now. Compramise got us here.

Not bad, not bad at all.

Who ever it was that called you a crazed monktard swinging upside down in a tree baning his head with a coconut, was just plain wrong.

 

[kwc57]

good lord

All this to blame Bush some more?

Grow the **** up, go outside, get some fresh air, then ask yourself; If it's still Bush's fault; Why is it worse now?

This is not about blaming GWB, he is done and gone. What isn't done and gone are those who put him in charge. Given the opportunity they will put someone just like him or worse in the position of power. The reprecussions of what they did are still being felt. A presidents tenure is brief but his party seems to be everlasting.

And given the opportunity, the folks who put Obama in charge will put someone just like him or worse in the position of power.......the repurcussions of what they did are being felt now and are worse than what we had before. Can we afford four more years of this?

 

[Nosmo King]

Let me see if I can crack the nut of this thread.

The OP contends that when Conservatives (an ideological group) votes, their votes tend to go to the Republican candidate most of the time if not always. b/c we have little else. "our guy" never gets close. Therefore, Conservatives are Republican by their voting record. Is there a "Conservative Party"? But, not every Republican is Conservative enough to satisfy the hard core Conservatives who are now trying to co-opt the power base of the Republican Party. Hammer and nail

In the coming election in 2012, Conservatives will vote for the Republican candidate only because that candidate will NOT be Barack Obama. No, many of us will toss our vote to the consevative (I) candidate again. Even if the Republican candidate does not pass muster with the extreme Conservatives, he (or she) will get that Conservative vote. Therefore, the Republican candidate, if victorious, will have to pander to the Conservative wing of the Republican Party and the fringe Conservatives, be they Tea Party, Libertarians, Secessionists or whatever. How does it feel to get pandered to?

My contention is: too many people have the ideology of Conservatism and the political identity of Republican so interlocked in their minds that any rational discussion is impossible. Further, the Conservatives will hang tough in their ideological bent to cripple any Republican elected official, thus further poisoning and polarizing the politics of this country. The same can be said for the progs.

Compromise is the lost art. I disagree. The constitution is a study in compromise and I find it ironic that the Conservatives, who wrap themselves in the Constitution like an aegis, can't grasp that simple fact. Look at the condition we are in now. Compramise got us here.

Not bad, not bad at all.

Who ever it was that called you a crazed monktard swinging upside down in a tree baning his head with a coconut, was just plain wrong.

A greater compliment to me has never been made! Kinda like; for a fat chick, ya don't sweat much!

 

[kwc57]

Who ever it was that called you a crazed monktard swinging upside down in a tree baning his head with a coconut, was just plain wrong.

What the hell is wrong with being a crazed monktard?

 

[Nosmo King]

Who ever it was that called you a crazed monktard swinging upside down in a tree baning his head with a coconut, was just plain wrong.

What the hell is wrong with being a crazed monktard?

I take umbrage with the notion I'm hanging upside down!

 

[Quantum Windbag]

you can be a conservative and yet fall into several parties, GOP, Libertarian, etc. So if you are a conservative and you vote Libertarian you would be considered a Libertarian because of who you support. If you vote Republican you are a Republican.

If you are conservative you are a Republican, unless you aren't.

Got it.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

All I'm saying is that...

You can call yourself anything you want, and that is up to you. However, when you step up to the plate and you put on the Republican uniform and you vote Republican, wether you are a liberal or a consrvative or a moderate you are called a Republican.

If you vote for a Republican as mayor, an Independent for city council, and a Democrat as governor does that make you a schizophrenic?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Let me see if I can crack the nut of this thread.

The OP contends that when Conservatives (an ideological group) votes, their votes tend to go to the Republican candidate most of the time if not always. Therefore, Conservatives are Republican by their voting record. But, not every Republican is Conservative enough to satisfy the hard core Conservatives who are now trying to co-opt the power base of the Republican Party.

In the coming election in 2012, Conservatives will vote for the Republican candidate only because that candidate will NOT be Barack Obama. Even if the Republican candidate does not pass muster with the extreme Conservatives, he (or she) will get that Conservative vote. Therefore, the Republican candidate, if victorious, will have to pander to the Conservative wing of the Republican Party and the fringe Conservatives, be they Tea Party, Libertarians, Secessionists or whatever.

My contention is: too many people have the ideology of Conservatism and the political identity of Republican so interlocked in their minds that any rational discussion is impossible. Further, the Conservatives will hang tough in their ideological bent to cripple any Republican elected official, thus further poisoning and polarizing the politics of this country.

Compromise is the lost art. The constitution is a study in compromise and I find it ironic that the Conservatives, who wrap themselves in the Constitution like an aegis, can't grasp that simple fact.

I tend to agree with most of what you said, except where you argue that conservatives are hurting the Republican party. It seems to me that they do no more damage to the Republicans that the radical left does to the Democrats. The extremes keep the party focused on what should be their core values by holding them to account when they say one thing and do another. After all is said and done compromise is not about always going to the left.

 

[spectrumc01]

All I'm saying is that...

You can call yourself anything you want, and that is up to you. However, when you step up to the plate and you put on the Republican uniform and you vote Republican, wether you are a liberal or a consrvative or a moderate you are called a Republican.

If you vote for a Republican as mayor, an Independent for city council, and a Democrat as governor does that make you a schizophrenic?

http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/162842-the-schizophrenia-that-is-conservatism.html

 

[Nosmo King]

Let me see if I can crack the nut of this thread.

The OP contends that when Conservatives (an ideological group) votes, their votes tend to go to the Republican candidate most of the time if not always. Therefore, Conservatives are Republican by their voting record. But, not every Republican is Conservative enough to satisfy the hard core Conservatives who are now trying to co-opt the power base of the Republican Party.

In the coming election in 2012, Conservatives will vote for the Republican candidate only because that candidate will NOT be Barack Obama. Even if the Republican candidate does not pass muster with the extreme Conservatives, he (or she) will get that Conservative vote. Therefore, the Republican candidate, if victorious, will have to pander to the Conservative wing of the Republican Party and the fringe Conservatives, be they Tea Party, Libertarians, Secessionists or whatever.

My contention is: too many people have the ideology of Conservatism and the political identity of Republican so interlocked in their minds that any rational discussion is impossible. Further, the Conservatives will hang tough in their ideological bent to cripple any Republican elected official, thus further poisoning and polarizing the politics of this country.

Compromise is the lost art. The constitution is a study in compromise and I find it ironic that the Conservatives, who wrap themselves in the Constitution like an aegis, can't grasp that simple fact.

I tend to agree with most of what you said, except where you argue that conservatives are hurting the Republican party. It seems to me that they do no more damage to the Republicans that the radical left does to the Democrats. The extremes keep the party focused on what should be their core values by holding them to account when they say one thing and do another. After all is said and done compromise is not about always going to the left.

I think there's not a whit of difference in degree of harm extremists do to their respective parties. I do find it ironic that many board Conservatives see the extremists in the Democrat party as "Marxist/Socialist/Communist/Fascist" (a smörgåsbord of every derogatory political term they've ever heard and completely without intellectual merit) and the extremists in the Republican party as patriots/spawn of the Founding Fathers/Heroes.

And, believe it or not, compromise IS ALWAYS about going to the Left. Without the momentum of the Left, America would not have Civil Rights protections, child labor laws. environmental protections, equal pay for equal work protections, worker safety safeguards, Social Security protection for our senior citizens, fair housing legislation, food and drug safety regulations and other social safety nets that make life tolerable in modern America.