Consequence Culture - Gina Carano, Colin Kaepernick, The Dixie Chicks and Jane Fonda

[JoeB131]

1) can you provide it again?

Nope. I don't do links unless I feel like it. It's usually wasted, because you guys either pretend you didn't see them or scream "Fake News"

2)SF didn't blackball him....his stats supported their decision...he was coming off 3 freaking surgeries.....nobody wanted him

Except- again, the NFL settled his suit over their blackballing him.

3) wow...inbred people listen to Garth Brooks, and country artist? I don't disagree that some of the backlash was too much....but they weren't fired by their label. I think it would have been drastically different had they simply said they don't support the war, but the additional attack on the President and doing it overseas made the comment worse. Moreover, there is no right or wrong on being supportive of the war effort or not.

No, they weren't fired by their label, but they were "cancelled" by their fans. This is the whole point of Cancel Culture.

And, yes, the war was wrong. We attacked a country over weapons that didn't exist. Then we failed to secure it and allowed it to fall into chaos.

4) there is no defending Fonda's actions....no, no serviceman would have set on a anti-air craft weapon targeting their fellow servicemen, and partied with the enemy. Fonda didn't get backlash for being against the war, she got backlash for that photo and that trip....rightly so.

I think a lot of servicemen were happy that people spoke up against the war... The fact that we ended the draft after that war because everyone knew how stupid it was says a lot.

 

[JoeB131]

He's still the starter for the Bears, and isn't coming off three surgeries...and still UNDER contract! We'll see what happens after this season when he goes free-agent

Can you show us some sort of evidence there was an agreement between all the football teams not to hire CK?

Again, I don't do links. Google is your friend.

Colin Kaepernick reaches settlement in national anthem kneeling collusion case against NFL

The NFL and lawyers for players Colin Kaepernick and Eric Reid jointly announced Friday that they have settled a complaint of collusion by the players, who claimed football team owners blackballed them because they had protested by kneeling during the playing of the national anthem. In a joint...

www.cnbc.com

• The NFL and lawyers for players Colin Kaepernick and Eric Reid jointly announced Friday that they have settled a complaint of collusion by the players, who claimed football team owners blackballed them because they had protested by kneeling during the playing of the national anthem.
• In a joint statement, the parties said: “For the past several months, counsel for Mr. Kaepernick and Mr. Reid have engaged in an ongoing dialogue with representatives of the NFL. As a result of those discussions, the parties have decided to resolve the pending grievances. The resolution of this matter is subject to a confidentiality agreement so there will be no further comment by any party.”

The NFL admitted guilt. Done.

 

[struth]

1) can you provide it again?

Nope. I don't do links unless I feel like it. It's usually wasted, because you guys either pretend you didn't see them or scream "Fake News"

2)SF didn't blackball him....his stats supported their decision...he was coming off 3 freaking surgeries.....nobody wanted him

Except- again, the NFL settled his suit over their blackballing him.

3) wow...inbred people listen to Garth Brooks, and country artist? I don't disagree that some of the backlash was too much....but they weren't fired by their label. I think it would have been drastically different had they simply said they don't support the war, but the additional attack on the President and doing it overseas made the comment worse. Moreover, there is no right or wrong on being supportive of the war effort or not.

No, they weren't fired by their label, but they were "cancelled" by their fans. This is the whole point of Cancel Culture.

And, yes, the war was wrong. We attacked a country over weapons that didn't exist. Then we failed to secure it and allowed it to fall into chaos.

4) there is no defending Fonda's actions....no, no serviceman would have set on a anti-air craft weapon targeting their fellow servicemen, and partied with the enemy. Fonda didn't get backlash for being against the war, she got backlash for that photo and that trip....rightly so.

I think a lot of servicemen were happy that people spoke up against the war... The fact that we ended the draft after that war because everyone knew how stupid it was says a lot.

1) I'll believe her own tweets..you said there were tweets
2) Seattle worked him out, Baltimore did too...in 2017...Baltimore was going to offer him, but according to Ray Lewis Kaepernick's girlfriend made comparisons of their owner Steve Bisciotti to a slave owner; so they didn't.....that sort of stuff is gonna cost you a job. Actually the NFL never admitted such a thing, they fought the case at first, and then decided to reach some sort of agreement, and he withdrew his lawsuit.
3) No, people just didn't want to buy their music for a time period, they later came back around. The cancel culture is about ending something.....ie killing books, destroying businesses, etc...the Dixie Chicks are still around, and popular.
4) Fonda was a horrible choice for you....she gave aid and comfort to the people killing Americans. There is away to be against the war, and not do what she did.

 

[JoeB131]

2) Seattle worked him out, Baltimore did too...in 2017...Baltimore was going to offer him, but according to Ray Lewis Kaepernick's girlfriend made comparisons of their owner Steve Bisciotti to a slave owner; so they didn't.....that sort of stuff is gonna cost you a job. Actually the NFL never admitted such a thing, they fought the case at first, and then decided to reach some sort of agreement, and he withdrew his lawsuit.

Point is, they settled and gave away money... probably because they knew when they started reading emails it wasn't going to be pretty.

3) No, people just didn't want to buy their music for a time period, they later came back around. The cancel culture is about ending something.....ie killing books, destroying businesses, etc...the Dixie Chicks are still around, and popular.

Good point. Then there is no cancel culture, because no one is truly cancelled. Gina will get jobs other places and her body of work will still be out there.

The Chicks made kind of a comeback only because everyone now kind of realizes that the Iraq war WAS stupid.
But they still paid a price for it.

4) Fonda was a horrible choice for you....she gave aid and comfort to the people killing Americans. There is away to be against the war, and not do what she did.

Um, yeah.. Here's the thing. We all realized the war was a stupid idea by 1968. Nixon got elected by promising that he had a secret plan to end the war. (It was so secret even he didn't know what it was.) Yet we were still fighting it in 1973. The war itself didn't end until 1975, when the South Vietnamese realized their leaders were robbing them blind.

So the premise that "she was right, but the way she went about it was wrong" just doesn't hold water. Lots of people were against the war, but we were still bombing these people mercilessly, we were still sending over poor kids to fight it because they couldn't get an exemption. Soldiers were routinely fragging their officers because the whole thing had become senseless.

But let's be mad at Jane because she got her picture taken sitting on an anti-aircraft gun. Let's still be mad at her 50 years later!!!!

 

[struth]

He's still the starter for the Bears, and isn't coming off three surgeries...and still UNDER contract! We'll see what happens after this season when he goes free-agent

Can you show us some sort of evidence there was an agreement between all the football teams not to hire CK?

Again, I don't do links. Google is your friend.

Colin Kaepernick reaches settlement in national anthem kneeling collusion case against NFL

The NFL and lawyers for players Colin Kaepernick and Eric Reid jointly announced Friday that they have settled a complaint of collusion by the players, who claimed football team owners blackballed them because they had protested by kneeling during the playing of the national anthem. In a joint...

www.cnbc.com

• The NFL and lawyers for players Colin Kaepernick and Eric Reid jointly announced Friday that they have settled a complaint of collusion by the players, who claimed football team owners blackballed them because they had protested by kneeling during the playing of the national anthem.
• In a joint statement, the parties said: “For the past several months, counsel for Mr. Kaepernick and Mr. Reid have engaged in an ongoing dialogue with representatives of the NFL. As a result of those discussions, the parties have decided to resolve the pending grievances. The resolution of this matter is subject to a confidentiality agreement so there will be no further comment by any party.”

The NFL admitted guilt. Done.

You literally quoted nothing where they admitted guilt, and nothing was done in Court. I also highlighted, at least two teams that entertained offering him a spot. Seattle worked him out, and passed, and Baltimore was going to offer him a spot until the comments from his gf and the owner became public.

and Eric Reid, wasn't blackbailed......he played until 2019! NFL, NFLPA: Reid not targeted for drug tests

"There is no evidence of targeting or any other impropriety with respect to his selection for testing," the two organizations said in a joint statement released Wednesday.

 

[struth]

2) Seattle worked him out, Baltimore did too...in 2017...Baltimore was going to offer him, but according to Ray Lewis Kaepernick's girlfriend made comparisons of their owner Steve Bisciotti to a slave owner; so they didn't.....that sort of stuff is gonna cost you a job. Actually the NFL never admitted such a thing, they fought the case at first, and then decided to reach some sort of agreement, and he withdrew his lawsuit.

Point is, they settled and gave away money... probably because they knew when they started reading emails it wasn't going to be pretty.

3) No, people just didn't want to buy their music for a time period, they later came back around. The cancel culture is about ending something.....ie killing books, destroying businesses, etc...the Dixie Chicks are still around, and popular.

Good point. Then there is no cancel culture, because no one is truly cancelled. Gina will get jobs other places and her body of work will still be out there.

The Chicks made kind of a comeback only because everyone now kind of realizes that the Iraq war WAS stupid.
But they still paid a price for it.

4) Fonda was a horrible choice for you....she gave aid and comfort to the people killing Americans. There is away to be against the war, and not do what she did.

Um, yeah.. Here's the thing. We all realized the war was a stupid idea by 1968. Nixon got elected by promising that he had a secret plan to end the war. (It was so secret even he didn't know what it was.) Yet we were still fighting it in 1973. The war itself didn't end until 1975, when the South Vietnamese realized their leaders were robbing them blind.

So the premise that "she was right, but the way she went about it was wrong" just doesn't hold water. Lots of people were against the war, but we were still bombing these people mercilessly, we were still sending over poor kids to fight it because they couldn't get an exemption. Soldiers were routinely fragging their officers because the whole thing had become senseless.

But let's be mad at Jane because she got her picture taken sitting on an anti-aircraft gun. Let's still be mad at her 50 years later!!!!

1) they reached some sort of agreement, with the Player's Union....you have no idea if money was exchanged or not.
2) Maybe, I hope so....I'm still waiting on you to support your claim that she's a racist. There is a cancel culture.....they are no longer making certain children books for example. The Chicks made a comeback because they are talented, and nobody actually wanted to cancel them. Things moreon....many of their fans still support what Bush did in Iraq.
3) The war being a stupid idea, has nothing to do with what Fonda did....just stop....she was a horrible example...you should have just stuck with the Dixie Chicks

 

[Bush92]

So we've seen a few threads on these boards about how Gina Carano was fired by Disney after she repeatedly posted racist, conspiratorial and transphobic memes on Twitter, and someone decided that she wasn't the best person to have on your Fun Space Adventure for the Whole Family. Yes, after spending 4 BILLION to buy the rights to Star Wars, they didn't want some third tier actor dragging them into controversy they didn't need.

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Fun Space Adventure... Calling them "Younglings" so you don't have to say, "Killed Children"

Anyway, the Right Wing has gone apoplectic over this. How dare we punish this poor woman for merely expressing her opinion.

Of course, these were the same people who insisted that the NFL Fire Colin Kaepernick because he took a knee protesting police misconduct and killing of black people.

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Eventually, he was proven right when the country exploded into riots after George Floyd was murdered. Even big corporations got in on the act.

Then there were the Dixie Chicks. Remember them? They were a country band that expressed the opinion that our war with Iraq over weapons that didn't exist was probably a bad idea. (Actually, only one of them did, but they all paid for it.

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Eventually, they were proven right. Heck, you'd be hard pressed to find a Right Winger today who would argue the Iraq War was a good idea.

Then there was the grandmother of all "Cancel Culture", Jane Fonda. You remember Jane? She was the one who said our undeclared war in Vietnam was a terrible idea. Even humanized the people we were mercilessly bombing by visiting them.

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Well, she was proven right. The war was a bad idea. Not that it did her any good, people still denounced her as "Hanoi Jane" and her career was pretty much over by 1980.

Point is, the Right Wing was for Cancel Culture (really, "Consequence Culture") before they were against it.

So let the right wing outrage begin!!!

It's pretty simple. Gina is right and those other shit bags you mentioned are America haters...as are all socialist.

 

[Turtlesoup]

So we've seen a few threads on these boards about how Gina Carano was fired by Disney after she repeatedly posted racist, conspiratorial and transphobic memes on Twitter, and someone decided that she wasn't the best person to have on your Fun Space Adventure for the Whole Family. Yes, after spending 4 BILLION to buy the rights to Star Wars, they didn't want some third tier actor dragging them into controversy they didn't need.

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Fun Space Adventure... Calling them "Younglings" so you don't have to say, "Killed Children"

Anyway, the Right Wing has gone apoplectic over this. How dare we punish this poor woman for merely expressing her opinion.

Of course, these were the same people who insisted that the NFL Fire Colin Kaepernick because he took a knee protesting police misconduct and killing of black people.

View attachment 464342

Eventually, he was proven right when the country exploded into riots after George Floyd was murdered. Even big corporations got in on the act.

Then there were the Dixie Chicks. Remember them? They were a country band that expressed the opinion that our war with Iraq over weapons that didn't exist was probably a bad idea. (Actually, only one of them did, but they all paid for it.

View attachment 464343

Eventually, they were proven right. Heck, you'd be hard pressed to find a Right Winger today who would argue the Iraq War was a good idea.

Then there was the grandmother of all "Cancel Culture", Jane Fonda. You remember Jane? She was the one who said our undeclared war in Vietnam was a terrible idea. Even humanized the people we were mercilessly bombing by visiting them.

View attachment 464344

Well, she was proven right. The war was a bad idea. Not that it did her any good, people still denounced her as "Hanoi Jane" and her career was pretty much over by 1980.

Point is, the Right Wing was for Cancel Culture (really, "Consequence Culture") before they were against it.

So let the right wing outrage begin!!!

She was doing her JOB and not expressing herself while working....Kapernick was free to protest the US on his off time. But instead the inept quarterback was having a bad day and decided to throw a temper tantrum while at work and then after the fact try to play the race card to excuse his childish behavior. Worse, that it is the NATIONAL football League which pist off most of the viewers costing him and all other of these grossly paid football players money. The actress didn't cost viewers, cancelling her will though.

 

[JoeB131]

You literally quoted nothing where they admitted guilt, and nothing was done in Court. I also highlighted, at least two teams that entertained offering him a spot. Seattle worked him out, and passed, and Baltimore was going to offer him a spot until the comments from his gf and the owner became public.

And- again- they settled before discovery was done... In short, they knew there were emails that made them look bad.

3) The war being a stupid idea, has nothing to do with what Fonda did....just stop....she was a horrible example...you should have just stuck with the Dixie Chicks

Naw, she was a perfect example. 50 years later, you are still pissed about it.

You guys were fine with "Cancel Culture", until it turned on you.

 

[JoeB131]

She was doing her JOB and not expressing herself while working....Kapernick was free to protest the US on his off time. But instead the inept quarterback was having a bad day and decided to throw a temper tantrum while at work and then after the fact try to play the race card to excuse his childish behavior. Worse, that it is the NATIONAL football League which pist off most of the viewers costing him and all other of these grossly paid football players money. The actress didn't cost viewers, cancelling her will though.

I doubt one Star Wars nerd is going to stop watching the Mandalorian because of her being fired. if they didn't bail after the Sequel Trilogy, they aren't going anywhere.

Point is, you guys are fine with "Cancel Culture" when people say stuff you don't like. Did Kaepernick taking a knee really have any effect on you in any way? I mean, it wasn't like you were actually going to start thinking about cops who shoot black children in the back being a bad thing.

 

[Fang]

You lost me at Kaepernick was proven right. Kap still doesn’t have a job in the NFL, players and fans still stand for the anthem and by far worst of all, blacks are still being slaughtered in our inner cities. The real issue has not been addressed.

 

[struth]

You literally quoted nothing where they admitted guilt, and nothing was done in Court. I also highlighted, at least two teams that entertained offering him a spot. Seattle worked him out, and passed, and Baltimore was going to offer him a spot until the comments from his gf and the owner became public.

And- again- they settled before discovery was done... In short, they knew there were emails that made them look bad.

3) The war being a stupid idea, has nothing to do with what Fonda did....just stop....she was a horrible example...you should have just stuck with the Dixie Chicks

Naw, she was a perfect example. 50 years later, you are still pissed about it.

You guys were fine with "Cancel Culture", until it turned on you.

1) you seem to be speculating here...with no evidence...there is actually evidence there was no conspirary as I highlighted TWO teams worked him out, one was making an offer until CK gf made horrible comments
2) yes, I am very upset, that she set on a weapon what was used to kill my fellow countrymen....and partied in their camp, while my fellow countrymen were being tortured nearby. I have no issue with her and others being against the war, but come on that's a bridge to far. I am sorry you can't understand the difference. With that said, I have certainly still watched movies she was in.....well after that event.

and when was Jane Fonda every canceled? She suffered no work issues from that picture and trip

 

[lantern2814]

How many times does your ignorant ass have to be told that the no talent bitch Kraperlimpdick was only crying because the team told him he wasn’t going to start. As revealed by his teammates who thought him a crybaby. Here’s an idea. Leave the country. Nobody will miss you.

Actually, my side won the election, so maybe you should leave.

So his response to not starting was to make himself the subject of public anger? Let's keep in mind, when he started kneeling, it wasn't a popular position.

Communism was the bad idea.

Oh, wait, you think the Vietnam War was about "Communism"? You silly boy.

The comment wasn’t about the election you stupid fuck. You hate everything American so YOU can get the fuck out. Kraperlimpdick was a crybaby whining because he wasn’t starting because he stunk. Period. I’m sure he appreciated your blowing him but you sound dumber than usual defending this cop hating piece of crap.

 

[lantern2814]

The police are not murdering people you idiot....13 unarmed blacks were killed by police...at least 8 of them were in the process of attacking the police.......you moron.

Okay, you tell yourself that.

Laquan McDonald
Tamir Rice
George Floyd
Bronna Taylor
Walter Scott
Michael Brown
Botham Jean
etc.
etc.

Damn you’re stupid. Michael Brown attacked a cop and tried to steal his gun. And he never had his hands up dumbfuck. Per eyewitnesses. Most of whom were black. Georgie boy Floyd had enough Fentanyl in his system to drop more than one man. He was dead already. The medical examiners said drug overdose. It was a doctor hired by the family who said homicide. Breonna Taylor was harboring known drug dealers. Bad things tend to happen when you do that. Keep eating the bullshit, your Dem leaders just laugh as you repeat the talking points.

 

[lantern2814]

1) what repeated racist, conspiratorial and transphobi meme? Can you provide them?

I provided a link earlier in the thread... all this "nuh-uh" shit is tiresome.

2) The NFL didn't fire him, they didn't hire him. He was fired by SF 49ers. He was an average QB to start with, and was struggling towards the end of his career, coming off injuries and 3 surgeries entering the 2016 season. Gabbert beat him out for the starting job that season. He did start one game, in October against the Bills and they got blown out 45-16. His was let go because he couldn't preform anymore.

He got let go because they blackballed him, and when they sued they settled before discovery was allowed to go forward because that would have proven his claim that there was collusion.

Come on, the Chicago Bears could have used a QB of his caliber, instead of Trubinsky, who keeps fucking up and still has a job. But he didn't take a knee... at least not until it was fashionable.

3) I have no issue with the Dixie Chicks, not supporting the war, and things likely went to far, but they were not fired from their label....the folks they were selling records to, decided they didn't want to buy them anymore...a lot was likely due to their response after their comment overseas...such as this: "We don't feel a part of the country scene any longer, it can't be our home anymore."

They didn't feel part of the country scene because of the backlash against them by the inbred morons who listen to country music turned on them.

Just look at their discography.

The Chicks discography - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Whoops. They crashed and burned after 2003.

4) as far as Jane....no she wasn't right.....it's one thing to oppose the war, it's something totally different to sit on top of an anti-aircraft gun targeting our troops. She was in the camp of people killing her fellow countrymen, mere miles away from where many were locked in cages, and being tortured. In later life she even acknowledged how wrong she was for it.

She acknowledged she was sorry that her actions hurt the feelings of servicemembers. The thing is, most of those Servicemembers probably would have agreed with her. This was a war where we drafted poor people to fight the war, while Rich people like Trump and Rush Limbaugh got exemptions. The best thing she did was point out the ludicrousness of it all.

Um. Yeah. It was horrible that the Vietnamese were torturing the people who were carpet bombing them. Everyone involved was a victim while the people in Washington and the big board rooms of corporations that profited from "Forever War" were exempt.

I love shoving your face in your bullshit. Discovery would have buried Kraperlimpdick. He REFUSED two contract offers (Baltimore and Denver) Meaning you don’t get to cry collusion. The NFL settled (and for a LOT less than Kraperlimpdick wanted) because the idiot woulda have just kept appealing and it would have cost more to carry on the court cases than they paid the crybaby.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

While I don't share his beliefs, Tim Tebow was vilified by the left for kneeling in silent prayer. No more disruptive than anything Kaepernick did, the act was considered intolerant and outright disgusting by the shit-stained left.

Tebow knelt in an act of silent, personal prayer. Kapernick knelt in an act of public defiance. The left looked at Tebow as some sort zealot and at Kaepernick as some sort of hero. Kapernick is no hero and Tebow is no zealot, yet only the act of one of them is acceptable to the dumbfucks who inhabit the left...

Oh just stop with this bullshit comparison. He got picked on by the left wing idealists. But he wasn't blackballed by the NFL, he wasn't colluded against by NFL owners and unable to land a team, and he wasn't hung out to dry by the collective NFL players association. Eventually he was out of the league. Why? Not because of his religious beliefs or the fact that he kneeled in prayer. Because in the end, he wasn't a very good quarterback. Compare that to Kapernick who had way more upside than Tebow at the QB position and took his team to a Super Bowl. And he can't land a job because he takes a knee protesting the treatment of black men? C'mon.

Are you guys fucking stupid......he was a lousy quarterback looking at the end of his career who used false allegations of racism to get rich....

The NFL offered him a private try out and he refused to show...you lying assholes...

He was still a better quarterback than Tebow could ever dream of being. And he took his team to the Super Bowl.
Apparently, you don't watch much in the way of football, huh?

 

[harmonica]

So we've seen a few threads on these boards about how Gina Carano was fired by Disney after she repeatedly posted racist, conspiratorial and transphobic memes on Twitter, and someone decided that she wasn't the best person to have on your Fun Space Adventure for the Whole Family. Yes, after spending 4 BILLION to buy the rights to Star Wars, they didn't want some third tier actor dragging them into controversy they didn't need.

View attachment 464341
Fun Space Adventure... Calling them "Younglings" so you don't have to say, "Killed Children"

Anyway, the Right Wing has gone apoplectic over this. How dare we punish this poor woman for merely expressing her opinion.

Of course, these were the same people who insisted that the NFL Fire Colin Kaepernick because he took a knee protesting police misconduct and killing of black people.

View attachment 464342

Eventually, he was proven right when the country exploded into riots after George Floyd was murdered. Even big corporations got in on the act.

Then there were the Dixie Chicks. Remember them? They were a country band that expressed the opinion that our war with Iraq over weapons that didn't exist was probably a bad idea. (Actually, only one of them did, but they all paid for it.

View attachment 464343

Eventually, they were proven right. Heck, you'd be hard pressed to find a Right Winger today who would argue the Iraq War was a good idea.

Then there was the grandmother of all "Cancel Culture", Jane Fonda. You remember Jane? She was the one who said our undeclared war in Vietnam was a terrible idea. Even humanized the people we were mercilessly bombing by visiting them.

View attachment 464344

Well, she was proven right. The war was a bad idea. Not that it did her any good, people still denounced her as "Hanoi Jane" and her career was pretty much over by 1980.

Point is, the Right Wing was for Cancel Culture (really, "Consequence Culture") before they were against it.

So let the right wing outrage begin!!!

1. your whole OP is crap because she did not post racist/etc stuff--she posted the truth
2. and also Kap crap ---because there is NO problem of police brutality --we've been over this before...I have a thread on it with the TRUTH/stats/etc

 

[JoeB131]

1) you seem to be speculating here...with no evidence...there is actually evidence there was no conspirary as I highlighted TWO teams worked him out, one was making an offer until CK gf made horrible comments

I don't have to speculate. The NFL settled and paid him a shitload of money.

2) yes, I am very upset, that she set on a weapon what was used to kill my fellow countrymen....and partied in their camp, while my fellow countrymen were being tortured nearby. I have no issue with her and others being against the war, but come on that's a bridge to far. I am sorry you can't understand the difference. With that said, I have certainly still watched movies she was in.....well after that event.

"set"? Did you mean "Sat"? do you have problems with verbs you should have learned in the first grade, or are you a Russian Troll?

Point was, sit ins weren't getting the job done. If you should be upset with anyone, it should be the leaders who sent men there knowing damned well the war was unwinnable and the Saigon regime would collapse the minute we stopped propping it up. The ironic thing is that Vietnam is our friend today. We do a lot of business there.

nd when was Jane Fonda every canceled? She suffered no work issues from that picture and trip

Actually, her career was pretty much over by 1985.

 

[JoeB131]

1. your whole OP is crap because she did not post racist/etc stuff--she posted the truth

She's totally not a racist, said the racist. Yup, that will fly.

2. and also Kap crap ---because there is NO problem of police brutality --we've been over this before...I have a thread on it with the TRUTH/stats/etc

You can say it all day... but frankly, no one believes you. We have too many videos of cops brutalizing black people.

 

[harmonica]

1. your whole OP is crap because she did not post racist/etc stuff--she posted the truth

She's totally not a racist, said the racist. Yup, that will fly.

2. and also Kap crap ---because there is NO problem of police brutality --we've been over this before...I have a thread on it with the TRUTH/stats/etc

You can say it all day... but frankly, no one believes you. We have too many videos of cops brutalizing black people.

you haven't proved she is a racist--hahahahhaha
..just like Mr Trump is not a racist, I am not a racist--etc
..if anyone is a racist--it's YOU