Cons say we are not a democracy, we are a representative republic

[hangover]

What do you know, the representatives don't like Trump! Bwah ha ha! Yo Trump, it's been like this throughout U.S. history.

The representatives don't like Bernie either, that's why Shrillary has 500 unearned super delegates.

Are voters starting to figure out that both parties don't give a damn about what the voters want? Are the people in this country starting to understand that the government is made up of con artists with their hands in your pocket for over two hundred years?

Is the electoral college going to coronate Clinton because they don't like Trump? Maybe the SCOTUS will overturn the electoral college....again.

Democracy,,,,what a scam!

 

[Wildman]

Democracy,,,,what a scam!

YES...!!!

democracy is the biggest scam since communism......, hummmmm, actually is there any difference ??

 

[hangover]

Looks like everybody is just fine with the two party scam.

 

[longknife]

I'd respond at length but I fractured my wrist and won't be typing very much for three weeks!

 

[NYcarbineer]

Once you've found excuses to at one time or another reject all forms of government,

what's left?

 

[Iceweasel]

A republic is what we are. Never was a democracy. A republic is a representative democracy.

What you are failing on is that the people elect their representatives and that is NOT what's happening with delegates, the people aren't picking their representatives in many cases. The establishments on both sides are selecting them to protect their own interests.

 

[Iceweasel]

Once you've found excuses to at one time or another reject all forms of government,

what's left?

Revolution baby. From the ground up.

 

[M14 Shooter]

What do you know, the representatives don't like Trump! Bwah ha ha! Yo Trump, it's been like this throughout U.S. history.
The representatives don't like Bernie either, that's why Shrillary has 500 unearned super delegates.
Are voters starting to figure out that both parties don't give a damn about what the voters want? Are the people in this country starting to understand that the government is made up of con artists with their hands in your pocket for over two hundred years?
Is the electoral college going to coronate Clinton because they don't like Trump? Maybe the SCOTUS will overturn the electoral college....again.
Democracy,,,,what a scam!

More mindless nonsense from the village useful idiot.

 

[NYcarbineer]

A republic is what we are. Never was a democracy. A republic is a representative democracy.

Everyone study the above and see if you get the same laugh I did.

 

[Iceweasel]

A republic is what we are. Never was a democracy. A republic is a representative democracy.

Everyone study the above and see if you get the same laugh I did.

Which words are too big for you? Or are you just stoned out of your mind as usual?

 

[hangover]

What do you know, the representatives don't like Trump! Bwah ha ha! Yo Trump, it's been like this throughout U.S. history.
The representatives don't like Bernie either, that's why Shrillary has 500 unearned super delegates.
Are voters starting to figure out that both parties don't give a damn about what the voters want? Are the people in this country starting to understand that the government is made up of con artists with their hands in your pocket for over two hundred years?
Is the electoral college going to coronate Clinton because they don't like Trump? Maybe the SCOTUS will overturn the electoral college....again.
Democracy,,,,what a scam!

More mindless nonsense from the village useful idiot.

^^^^^^Rubbed his two brain cells together to come up with his attempt at an intelligent response....fail.

 

[longknife]

What do you know, the representatives don't like Trump! Bwah ha ha! Yo Trump, it's been like this throughout U.S. history.
The representatives don't like Bernie either, that's why Shrillary has 500 unearned super delegates.
Are voters starting to figure out that both parties don't give a damn about what the voters want? Are the people in this country starting to understand that the government is made up of con artists with their hands in your pocket for over two hundred years?
Is the electoral college going to coronate Clinton because they don't like Trump? Maybe the SCOTUS will overturn the electoral college....again.
Democracy,,,,what a scam!

More mindless nonsense from the village useful idiot.

^^^^^^Rubbed his two brain cells together to come up with his attempt at an intelligent response....fail.

 

[hangover]

What do you know, the representatives don't like Trump! Bwah ha ha! Yo Trump, it's been like this throughout U.S. history.
The representatives don't like Bernie either, that's why Shrillary has 500 unearned super delegates.
Are voters starting to figure out that both parties don't give a damn about what the voters want? Are the people in this country starting to understand that the government is made up of con artists with their hands in your pocket for over two hundred years?
Is the electoral college going to coronate Clinton because they don't like Trump? Maybe the SCOTUS will overturn the electoral college....again.
Democracy,,,,what a scam!

More mindless nonsense from the village useful idiot.

^^^^^^Rubbed his two brain cells together to come up with his attempt at an intelligent response....fail.

ROTFLMAO! I get all warm and fuzzy when a moron calls me an asshole. It's like winning an award. BWAH HA HA HA HA!!!!

 

[Foxfyre]

A republic is what we are. Never was a democracy. A republic is a representative democracy.

What you are failing on is that the people elect their representatives and that is NOT what's happening with delegates, the people aren't picking their representatives in many cases. The establishments on both sides are selecting them to protect their own interests.

I think that's what is souring so many to the entire process. Okay most of the voters don't want Trump. Most of the voters don't want Cruz. Most of the GOP voters didn't want anybody else either. So where does that leave us?

Most of the GOP voters DID vote for Trump or Cruz. So now the RNC is rigging the primary elections as much as they can to ensure that neither Trump or Cruz will receive that requisite number of delegates and are doing what they can to make sure the delegates awarded won't stay with Trump or Cruz after the first ballot at convention. At which time they will throw out their own rules and install the nominee of THEIR choice, perhaps somebody who wasn't a named candidate at all and/or who didn't win a single state.

Makes you wonder why we bother to extend all those man hours and all those mega millions of dollars to have primary elections at all.

 

[Avatar4321]

Yeah we are a republic. And that's good.

 

[kaz]

Looks like everybody is just fine with the two party scam.

False dichotomy logical fallacy

 

[kaz]

What do you know, the representatives don't like Trump! Bwah ha ha! Yo Trump, it's been like this throughout U.S. history.

The representatives don't like Bernie either, that's why Shrillary has 500 unearned super delegates.

Are voters starting to figure out that both parties don't give a damn about what the voters want? Are the people in this country starting to understand that the government is made up of con artists with their hands in your pocket for over two hundred years?

Is the electoral college going to coronate Clinton because they don't like Trump? Maybe the SCOTUS will overturn the electoral college....again.

Democracy,,,,what a scam!

The parties suck, but I don't get how elections being democratic mean that the parties need to pick their candidates with straight popular vote. Especially with so many States allowing crossover votes, which has really helped Trump. Where did you get the idea that being Democratic meant that the parties internally have to operate that way?

And as for your false dichotomy, that I don't agree with your black and white choices, that isn't defending the current process. But you mixed questions combining democracy with agreement with the process when they are completely different questions

 

[Contumacious]

What do you know, the representatives don't like Trump! Bwah ha ha! Yo Trump, it's been like this throughout U.S. history.

The representatives don't like Bernie either, that's why Shrillary has 500 unearned super delegates.

Are voters starting to figure out that both parties don't give a damn about what the voters want? Are the people in this country starting to understand that the government is made up of con artists with their hands in your pocket for over two hundred years?

Is the electoral college going to coronate Clinton because they don't like Trump? Maybe the SCOTUS will overturn the electoral college....again.

Democracy,,,,what a scam!

De Jure

we are a Constitutional Republic where our rights are secured by the Constitution (1787)


De Facto

We are a democracy where our rights depends on political majorities - since the political majority is composed of PARASITES we are a bankrupt gargantuan welfare/warfare police state.


.

 

[pwjohn]

pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

 

[norwegen]

Yeah we are a republic. And that's good.

The U.S. was a republic. Since the Progressive Era and the ratification of Amendment XVII and the implementation of ballot initiatives, referendum, voter recalls, and direct primaries, the voting franchise has become less of a privilege and more of a right.

And the democratization of our republic isn't over. It is not socialist enough. The United States was a republic. It is a democracy. It will be Venezuela.