Confederate Statue Removers Are Soldier Haters

[JimBowie1958]

Wow. You're really grasping at straws aren't you? I'm retired military and I see no problem with removing the statues. They are soldiers sure, but they are soldiers who LOST the Civil War. Why do you want to celebrate losers?

Because they are American veterans, doofus.

And no one here believes that you are a veteran, BTW.

 

[IsaacNewton]

The mayors, governors, and other politicians who are calling for, and removing statues of former military generals, are soldier haters - pure & simple. Example - in Baltimore, statues of Robert E. Lee and Thomas Stonewall" Jackson were removed in the middle of the night, the mayor knowing there would be anger and opposition. So much for representitive government.

These actions are a disgrace, and an abusive insult to every soldier serving in the military, and every military veteran in America (if not the whole world). The often heard (idiotic) excuse that the statues represent hate, racism, and bigotry, is ludicrous, and an insult to everyone's intelligence.

The mayor of Tampa, Florida, Bob Buckhorn has said this same thing, and even donated $1,000 to have a Civil War monument removed, which has statues of 2 low ranked soldiers in it. Problem with the mayor's ridiculous excuse, is that whatever racism or bigotry existed, it came from POLITICIANS. But statues being removed in Tampa, Charlottesville, Lexington, KY and other places, are not of politicians. They are statues of SOLDIERS. They were people who made no policies of any kind. They simply followed orders, and did the toughest job anyone could do. Many lost their lives. They had nothing to do with the policies of slavery, secession, confederacy, etc. In fact, many of these soldiers (especially the generals) served in the military for many years before the Civil War even started.

These statue removals are despicable acts perpetrated by military and soldier haters, most of whom never served themselves. They are dishonoring these fine, courageous heroes, who went to war, defending their states, counties, and towns from attackers. These governors, mayors, etc should be voted out of office, or recalled if possible. Soldier haters have no business to be holding political office.

For every one of these soldiers whose statues are removed, 3 of theirs should be put up in response. Make the statue removing, soldier haters pay for their bad behavior.

Robert E Lee invaded and attacked Antietam, Maryland and Gettysburg, Pennsylvania in the United States (North) as a Confederate general. Traitors that attacked their own country. The rest of America has put up with this 'Confederacy' crap from the South long enough. They weren't heroes they were traitors of an enemy army invading America. Stop your whining about some participation statue of one of the losers of the war.

Cart them off to museums and you can go sit and stare at them to your heart's content.

 

[protectionist]

His military service to an enemy of the United States. An enemy that killed more Americans than in any other war we've ever had.

And those Americans killed more Floridians. Georgians, Tennesseans, etc. than any war we've ever been in. You don't get the high ground here.

 

[Slash]

What the hell does White supremacy movement have to do with SOLDIERS' statues ? (if there even IS any ws "movement")

Hope my question educates YOU a little bit.

That is EXACTLY the point. They didn't have statues for confederates, they honored the soldiers like any soldier, but they didn't celebrate them and their cause of fighting the USA over the perpetuation of slavery. In a large part because that is what Robert E Lee and Jefferson Davis requested.

I mean it makes no sense right? We aren't building a monument to Fort Hood Shooter Nidal Hassan as a "misguided but brave soldier who was one of the best men on earth". We don't name schools after Benedict Arnold to honor his history of turning against the USA. But Robert E Lee tries to overthrow the Government of the US, and gets one. Those statues mostly came about due to the dixiecrat and KKK political power in the South and their resistance to integration and the Civil rights movement. So that's what they owe their history to.

 

[protectionist]

Robert E Lee invaded and attacked Antietam, Maryland and Gettysburg, Pennsylvania in the United States (North) as a Confederate general. Traitors that attacked their own country. The rest of America has put up with this 'Confederacy' crap from the South long enough. They weren't heroes they were traitors of an enemy army invading America. Stop your whining about some participation statue of one of the losers of the war.

Cart them off to museums and you can go sit and stare at them to your heart's content.

For every one invasion (since you want to use that word) of Lee going to a North place, there were 1000 of the Union soldiers invading southern states, shooting at them, blowing up their buildings nd bridges, burning down their churches, etc.

The South fought 99% a DEFENSIVE war against outside "invaders" Almost the entre war was fought in the South. Looks like this subject might not be your forte'

 

[IsaacNewton]

Robert E Lee invaded and attacked Antietam, Maryland and Gettysburg, Pennsylvania in the United States (North) as a Confederate general. Traitors that attacked their own country. The rest of America has put up with this 'Confederacy' crap from the South long enough. They weren't heroes they were traitors of an enemy army invading America. Stop your whining about some participation statue of one of the losers of the war.

Cart them off to museums and you can go sit and stare at them to your heart's content.

For every one invasion (since you want to use that word) of Lee going to a North place, there were 1000 of the Union soldiers invading southern states, shooting at them, blowing up their buildings nd bridges, burning down their churches, etc.

The South fought 99% a DEFENSIVE war against outside "invaders" Almost the entre war was fought in the South. Looks like this subject might not be your forte'

Lee was just a little bit pregnant.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

More likely they're haters of racism and bigotry, which is the environment whence all these statues and monuments came.

They don't date from the Civil War or just-after. They date from the turn of the century, the period of this country's worst nadir of bigotry, racism, lynchings, Jim Crow, the resurrection of the Klan, "Birth of a Nation", race rioting and rampant discrimination. All branches of the same tree, all there to serve the cause of White Supremacy. In fact the Klan itself set some of them up.

So it would seem they're haters of bigotry, racism, lynchings, Jim Crow, the Klan, "whites only", the "gentleman's agreement" that kept blacks out of baseball for six decades between Moses Walker and Jackie Robinson, the Klan, and everything that feeds that sewer.

"Soldiers" doesn't even enter into it. That's just a shield the bigots hide behind.

Shall we now "defend" the other expressions of the time and bring back the Klan? "Colored" public water fountains? Ban blacks from baseball?

Context, m'boy, context. You're standing in a forest. Quit gazing at a single tree.

""Soldiers" doesn't even enter into it. That's just a shield the bigots hide behind."

What about the below soldiers, where they racist bigots also? They're ALL Jewish Confederates, who fought and died.

What's next ogo? You Rabid Leftist Fascists beginning burning the books?

When do the Rabid Leftist Fascists begin digging up the corpses off ALL Confederate SOLDIERS?

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Can you point out the city/town/state that is voting to remove con-federate veteran grave stones?

That will be next on the agenda, the demand to dig up all corpses.

Like the below psychos attempted to do, this August 16th:

 

[bodecea]

I can't even follow this incoherency. If you can't make your point in a paragraph, nobody's going to read it, not even if it's addressed to them. What the hell does Ted Kennedy have to do with the White Supremacy movement?

I don't advocate "removal" or "censor" of anything. I'm simply educating the OP on his misdefinition of what the root causes are.

What the hell does White supremacy movement have to do with SOLDIERS' statues ? (if there even IS any ws "movement")

Hope my question educates YOU a little bit.

Excellent question...why did the White supremacy movement MAKE the Charlottesville statue of Lee their business?

 

[bodecea]

More likely they're haters of racism and bigotry, which is the environment whence all these statues and monuments came.

They don't date from the Civil War or just-after. They date from the turn of the century, the period of this country's worst nadir of bigotry, racism, lynchings, Jim Crow, the resurrection of the Klan, "Birth of a Nation", race rioting and rampant discrimination. All branches of the same tree, all there to serve the cause of White Supremacy. In fact the Klan itself set some of them up.

So it would seem they're haters of bigotry, racism, lynchings, Jim Crow, the Klan, "whites only", the "gentleman's agreement" that kept blacks out of baseball for six decades between Moses Walker and Jackie Robinson, the Klan, and everything that feeds that sewer.

"Soldiers" doesn't even enter into it. That's just a shield the bigots hide behind.

Shall we now "defend" the other expressions of the time and bring back the Klan? "Colored" public water fountains? Ban blacks from baseball?

Context, m'boy, context. You're standing in a forest. Quit gazing at a single tree.

""Soldiers" doesn't even enter into it. That's just a shield the bigots hide behind."

What about the below soldiers, where they racist bigots also? They're ALL Jewish Confederates, who fought and died.

What's next ogo? You Rabid Leftist Fascists beginning burning the books?

When do the Rabid Leftist Fascists begin digging up the corpses off ALL Confederate SOLDIERS?

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What's next digging their corpses up?

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The Jewish Confederates - Wikipedia

Can you point out the city/town/state that is voting to remove con-federate veteran grave stones?

That will be next on the agenda, the demand to dig up all corpses.

Like the below psychos attempted to do, this August 16th:

No. Why are you lying?

 

[protectionist]

What the hell does White supremacy movement have to do with SOLDIERS' statues ? (if there even IS any ws "movement")

Hope my question educates YOU a little bit.

That is EXACTLY the point. They didn't have statues for confederates, they honored the soldiers like any soldier, but they didn't celebrate them and their cause of fighting the USA over the perpetuation of slavery. In a large part because that is what Robert E Lee and Jefferson Davis requested.

I mean it makes no sense right? We aren't building a monument to Fort Hood Shooter Nidal Hassan as a "misguided but brave soldier who was one of the best men on earth". We don't name schools after Benedict Arnold to honor his history of turning against the USA. But Robert E Lee tries to overthrow the Government of the US, and gets one. Those statues mostly came about due to the dixiecrat and KKK political power in the South and their resistance to integration and the Civil rights movement. So that's what they owe their history to.

 

[bodecea]

Wow. You're really grasping at straws aren't you? I'm retired military and I see no problem with removing the statues. They are soldiers sure, but they are soldiers who LOST the Civil War. Why do you want to celebrate losers?

Because they are American veterans, doofus.

And no one here believes that you are a veteran, BTW.

By act of law long after their treason was over. They fought and killed Americans. Is that ok with you?

 

[xyz]

The problem is not with the soldiers, but the regime they fought to defend.

 

[bodecea]

The problem is not with the soldiers, but the regime they fought to defend.

And that regime's leaders.

 

[Pogo]

---- and you know damn well it's not about "statues" since nobody in Charlottesville said boo about Robert E. Lee -- it was all "alt-right" and "we hate Jews" and Nazi this and Klan that and Vanguard the other thing and "you will not replace us" and beating a random black man with poles --- in other words the same bullshit that was going on a hundred years ago with the lynchings and the race riots and people being whipped for being Jewish or Catholic. They're trying to revive a time when that shit was powerful enough TO erect statues and monuments. It's all a grand hate-wank.

It's not Robert E. Lee or Stonewall Jackson that is the operative symbol here. The symbol is the epoch they're trying to resurrect. The era when the Klan was resurrected and signed up millions. The era when black people were expected to lower their eyes and sit in the back and use separate water fountains. THAT is what it's about.

All you're doing here is repeating the MSM's presentation of it (and that of the facist anifada and other counterprotestors). you're trying to make it be about the policies you dislike. But once again, the SOLDIERS dIdn't make the policies. The protesters were protesting about the statue of SOLDIER. That remains the issue.

Liberals have a habit of ranting forever after they've changed the subject to what they want to talk about and how they want it to be viewed. ha ha ...amusing

Know who that statue they took down in Durham North Carolna the other day was of?

Nobody.

It was a generic Confederate soldier. Not for a person but for a concept. And that concept was the Lost Cause revisionism which was going on at that time, which is what I've been describing here. It's recorded history. All these various monuments and statues were put up roughly 1895-1925 when racism, and lynchings, and Civil War revisionism (Dixon's "The Clansman", 1905) and "Birth of a Nation" film (1915), and the revived Klan, were dominant.

Those activists who dragged that statue down specifically called it a "symbol of white supremacy". That was the point. Not who the statue represents, which is, again, nobody.

Know when that statue went up? 1924. The same year the Klan was most active, marching, and getting local and state officials elected. Those activists also threw a hood over another similar local statue called "Silent Sam". That one went up in 1913 and was erected by the Daughters of the Confederacy --- the same revisionist Lost Cause group that put the plaque up for the birthplace of the Klan.

They were doing a lot of that at the time. Because it was the Lost Cause era.

Know what soldier was commemorated by the removed Liberty Place Monument, the first one the city of New Orleans took down?

None. It wasn't about a soldier or the Civil War at all --- it's about a white supremacist riot started by the White League, one of dozens of white supremacist groups started up in the defeated Confederacy. See what they all have in common.

That's the theme here. It's got nothing to do with statues directly, or "who owned slaves". It's got to do with the mentality that put those monuments there, and why they did so. It's about the action, not the artifact.

 

[Pogo]

---- and you know damn well it's not about "statues" since nobody in Charlottesville said boo about Robert E. Lee -- it was all "alt-right" and "we hate Jews" and Nazi this and Klan that and Vanguard the other thing and "you will not replace us" and beating a random black man with poles --- in other words the same bullshit that was going on a hundred years ago with the lynchings and the race riots and people being whipped for being Jewish or Catholic. They're trying to revive a time when that shit was powerful enough TO erect statues and monuments. It's all a grand hate-wank.

It's not Robert E. Lee or Stonewall Jackson that is the operative symbol here. The symbol is the epoch they're trying to resurrect. The era when the Klan was resurrected and signed up millions. The era when black people were expected to lower their eyes and sit in the back and use separate water fountains. THAT is what it's about.

All you're doing here is repeating the MSM's presentation of it (and that of the facist anifada and other counterprotestors). you're trying to make it be about the policies you dislike. But once again, the SOLDIERS dIdn't make the policies. The protesters were protesting about the statue of SOLDIER. That remains the issue.

Liberals have a habit of ranting forever after they've changed the subject to what they want to talk about and how they want it to be viewed. ha ha ...amusing

Know who that statue they took down in Durham North Carolna the other day was of?

Nobody.

It was a generic Confederate soldier. Not for a person but for a concept. And that concept was the Lost Cause revisionism which was going on at that time, which is what I've been describing here. It's recorded history. All these various monuments and statues were put up roughly 1895-1925 when racism, and lynchings, and Civil War revisionism (Dixon's "The Clansman", 1905) and "Birth of a Nation" film (1915), and the revived Klan, were dominant.

Those activists who dragged that statue down specifically called it a "symbol of white supremacy". That was the point. Not who the statue represents, which is, again, nobody.

Know when that statue went up? 1924. The same year the Klan was most active, marching, and getting local and state officials elected. Those activists also threw a hood over another similar local statue called "Silent Sam". That one went up in 1913 and was erected by the Daughters of the Confederacy --- the same revisionist Lost Cause group that put the plaque up for the birthplace of the Klan.

They were doing a lot of that at the time. Because it was the Lost Cause era.

That's the theme here. It's got nothing to do with statues directly, or "who owned slaves". It's got to do with the mentality that put those monuments there, and why they did so. It's about the action, not the artifact.

Matter of fact this sordid period of our history is the same period I write about frequently on this site, such as the Tulsa Race Riots (1921); the East St. Louis Riots and the Civil Rights Silent March (1917), and the peak activity of Lynching in America as well as the Klan itself. It's all related. These monuments are being targeted as a symbol of that period and mentality whence they sprang.

It's a period sorely neglected and intentionally forgotten in our history books..... which introduces the supreme irony that, in contrast to the whinings of the Lost Cause people that tries to suggest removing a statue is somehow "removing history" --- it's the statue-removers who by their actions are actually calling attention to a history that had been whitewashed. So arguably what they're doing, to the extent their reasoning is understood, is literally the opposite of removing history.

The Lost Cause monuments were basically put there to symbolically mask the real history; taking them down serves to symbolically remove that mask.

 

[Conservative65]

Wow. You're really grasping at straws aren't you? I'm retired military and I see no problem with removing the statues. They are soldiers sure, but they are soldiers who LOST the Civil War. Why do you want to celebrate losers?

Why does the government reward losers by handing them money through social welfare that someone else earned?

Every soldier and veteran in America should be up in arms over these disgraceful dishonorings - and they probably are, but the MSM won't cover that.

I'm a retired veteran, served over 20 years in the Navy, and was in 4 war zones. I have no problem with these statues being removed. They represent the side that lost the war, and according to the president, this country should not celebrate losers.

According to the left losers shouldn't be celebrated yet those same lefties celebrate losers when they hand them money someone else earned.

 

[Conservative65]

---- and you know damn well it's not about "statues" since nobody in Charlottesville said boo about Robert E. Lee -- it was all "alt-right" and "we hate Jews" and Nazi this and Klan that and Vanguard the other thing and "you will not replace us" and beating a random black man with poles --- in other words the same bullshit that was going on a hundred years ago with the lynchings and the race riots and people being whipped for being Jewish or Catholic. They're trying to revive a time when that shit was powerful enough TO erect statues and monuments. It's all a grand hate-wank.

It's not Robert E. Lee or Stonewall Jackson that is the operative symbol here. The symbol is the epoch they're trying to resurrect. The era when the Klan was resurrected and signed up millions. The era when black people were expected to lower their eyes and sit in the back and use separate water fountains. THAT is what it's about.

All you're doing here is repeating the MSM's presentation of it (and that of the facist anifada and other counterprotestors). you're trying to make it be about the policies you dislike. But once again, the SOLDIERS dIdn't make the policies. The protesters were protesting about the statue of SOLDIER. That remains the issue.

Liberals have a habit of ranting forever after they've changed the subject to what they want to talk about and how they want it to be viewed. ha ha ...amusing

Know who that statue they took down in Durham North Carolna the other day was of?

Nobody.

It was a generic Confederate soldier. Not for a person but for a concept. And that concept was the Lost Cause revisionism which was going on at that time, which is what I've been describing here. It's recorded history. All these various monuments and statues were put up roughly 1895-1925 when racism, and lynchings, and Civil War revisionism (Dixon's "The Clansman", 1905) and "Birth of a Nation" film (1915), and the revived Klan, were dominant.

Those activists who dragged that statue down specifically called it a "symbol of white supremacy". That was the point. Not who the statue represents, which is, again, nobody.

Know when that statue went up? 1924. The same year the Klan was most active, marching, and getting local and state officials elected. Those activists also threw a hood over another similar local statue called "Silent Sam". That one went up in 1913 and was erected by the Daughters of the Confederacy --- the same revisionist Lost Cause group that put the plaque up for the birthplace of the Klan.

They were doing a lot of that at the time. Because it was the Lost Cause era.

Know what soldier was commemorated by the removed Liberty Place Monument, the first one the city of New Orleans took down?

None. It wasn't about a soldier or the Civil War at all --- it's about a white supremacist riot started by the White League, one of dozens of white supremacist groups started up in the defeated Confederacy. See what they all have in common.

That's the theme here. It's got nothing to do with statues directly, or "who owned slaves". It's got to do with the mentality that put those monuments there, and why they did so. It's about the action, not the artifact.

Those pussies really kicked that statue's ass did they? Real tough guys. Wonder if they'd have the guts to do something like that to someone that could fight back? You and I both know they wouldn't have the guts.

 

[Pogo]

More likely they're haters of racism and bigotry, which is the environment whence all these statues and monuments came.

They don't date from the Civil War or just-after. They date from the turn of the century, the period of this country's worst nadir of bigotry, racism, lynchings, Jim Crow, the resurrection of the Klan, "Birth of a Nation", race rioting and rampant discrimination. All branches of the same tree, all there to serve the cause of White Supremacy. In fact the Klan itself set some of them up.

So it would seem they're haters of bigotry, racism, lynchings, Jim Crow, the Klan, "whites only", the "gentleman's agreement" that kept blacks out of baseball for six decades between Moses Walker and Jackie Robinson, the Klan, and everything that feeds that sewer.

"Soldiers" doesn't even enter into it. That's just a shield the bigots hide behind.

Shall we now "defend" the other expressions of the time and bring back the Klan? "Colored" public water fountains? Ban blacks from baseball?

Context, m'boy, context. You're standing in a forest. Quit gazing at a single tree.

""Soldiers" doesn't even enter into it. That's just a shield the bigots hide behind."

What about the below soldiers, where they racist bigots also? They're ALL Jewish Confederates, who fought and died.

What's next ogo? You Rabid Leftist Fascists beginning burning the books?

When do the Rabid Leftist Fascists begin digging up the corpses off ALL Confederate SOLDIERS?

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Judah P. Benjamin - Wikipedia

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What the fuck does this post have to do with ---- anything?

Do either of you girls read?

That post has A LOT to do with things.

Answer it, are those Jewish Confederates racist bigots? Considering EVERYONE who had a part in the Confederacy are ALL racist bigots, then you should answer yes.

Sorry I know that post of mine would make your type uncomfortable, doesn't fit into the Leftist narrative does it.

Nothing I've posted here, with the brief exception of a one-line tangent on Robert E. Lee, has had anything to do with "Confederates" or anything in that time period. Because it's irrelevant.

 

[Pogo]

---- and you know damn well it's not about "statues" since nobody in Charlottesville said boo about Robert E. Lee -- it was all "alt-right" and "we hate Jews" and Nazi this and Klan that and Vanguard the other thing and "you will not replace us" and beating a random black man with poles --- in other words the same bullshit that was going on a hundred years ago with the lynchings and the race riots and people being whipped for being Jewish or Catholic. They're trying to revive a time when that shit was powerful enough TO erect statues and monuments. It's all a grand hate-wank.

It's not Robert E. Lee or Stonewall Jackson that is the operative symbol here. The symbol is the epoch they're trying to resurrect. The era when the Klan was resurrected and signed up millions. The era when black people were expected to lower their eyes and sit in the back and use separate water fountains. THAT is what it's about.

All you're doing here is repeating the MSM's presentation of it (and that of the facist anifada and other counterprotestors). you're trying to make it be about the policies you dislike. But once again, the SOLDIERS dIdn't make the policies. The protesters were protesting about the statue of SOLDIER. That remains the issue.

Liberals have a habit of ranting forever after they've changed the subject to what they want to talk about and how they want it to be viewed. ha ha ...amusing

Know who that statue they took down in Durham North Carolna the other day was of?

Nobody.

It was a generic Confederate soldier. Not for a person but for a concept. And that concept was the Lost Cause revisionism which was going on at that time, which is what I've been describing here. It's recorded history. All these various monuments and statues were put up roughly 1895-1925 when racism, and lynchings, and Civil War revisionism (Dixon's "The Clansman", 1905) and "Birth of a Nation" film (1915), and the revived Klan, were dominant.

Those activists who dragged that statue down specifically called it a "symbol of white supremacy". That was the point. Not who the statue represents, which is, again, nobody.

Know when that statue went up? 1924. The same year the Klan was most active, marching, and getting local and state officials elected. Those activists also threw a hood over another similar local statue called "Silent Sam". That one went up in 1913 and was erected by the Daughters of the Confederacy --- the same revisionist Lost Cause group that put the plaque up for the birthplace of the Klan.

They were doing a lot of that at the time. Because it was the Lost Cause era.

Know what soldier was commemorated by the removed Liberty Place Monument, the first one the city of New Orleans took down?

None. It wasn't about a soldier or the Civil War at all --- it's about a white supremacist riot started by the White League, one of dozens of white supremacist groups started up in the defeated Confederacy. See what they all have in common.

That's the theme here. It's got nothing to do with statues directly, or "who owned slaves". It's got to do with the mentality that put those monuments there, and why they did so. It's about the action, not the artifact.

Those pussies really kicked that statue's ass did they? Real tough guys. Wonder if they'd have the guts to do something like that to someone that could fight back? You and I both know they wouldn't have the guts.

Nothing I've posted here has anything to do with "guts" or "tough guys". Might want to stick with your GI Joe dolls.

 

[Conservative65]

---- and you know damn well it's not about "statues" since nobody in Charlottesville said boo about Robert E. Lee -- it was all "alt-right" and "we hate Jews" and Nazi this and Klan that and Vanguard the other thing and "you will not replace us" and beating a random black man with poles --- in other words the same bullshit that was going on a hundred years ago with the lynchings and the race riots and people being whipped for being Jewish or Catholic. They're trying to revive a time when that shit was powerful enough TO erect statues and monuments. It's all a grand hate-wank.

It's not Robert E. Lee or Stonewall Jackson that is the operative symbol here. The symbol is the epoch they're trying to resurrect. The era when the Klan was resurrected and signed up millions. The era when black people were expected to lower their eyes and sit in the back and use separate water fountains. THAT is what it's about.

All you're doing here is repeating the MSM's presentation of it (and that of the facist anifada and other counterprotestors). you're trying to make it be about the policies you dislike. But once again, the SOLDIERS dIdn't make the policies. The protesters were protesting about the statue of SOLDIER. That remains the issue.

Liberals have a habit of ranting forever after they've changed the subject to what they want to talk about and how they want it to be viewed. ha ha ...amusing

Know who that statue they took down in Durham North Carolna the other day was of?

Nobody.

It was a generic Confederate soldier. Not for a person but for a concept. And that concept was the Lost Cause revisionism which was going on at that time, which is what I've been describing here. It's recorded history. All these various monuments and statues were put up roughly 1895-1925 when racism, and lynchings, and Civil War revisionism (Dixon's "The Clansman", 1905) and "Birth of a Nation" film (1915), and the revived Klan, were dominant.

Those activists who dragged that statue down specifically called it a "symbol of white supremacy". That was the point. Not who the statue represents, which is, again, nobody.

Know when that statue went up? 1924. The same year the Klan was most active, marching, and getting local and state officials elected. Those activists also threw a hood over another similar local statue called "Silent Sam". That one went up in 1913 and was erected by the Daughters of the Confederacy --- the same revisionist Lost Cause group that put the plaque up for the birthplace of the Klan.

They were doing a lot of that at the time. Because it was the Lost Cause era.

Know what soldier was commemorated by the removed Liberty Place Monument, the first one the city of New Orleans took down?

None. It wasn't about a soldier or the Civil War at all --- it's about a white supremacist riot started by the White League, one of dozens of white supremacist groups started up in the defeated Confederacy. See what they all have in common.

That's the theme here. It's got nothing to do with statues directly, or "who owned slaves". It's got to do with the mentality that put those monuments there, and why they did so. It's about the action, not the artifact.

Those pussies really kicked that statue's ass did they? Real tough guys. Wonder if they'd have the guts to do something like that to someone that could fight back? You and I both know they wouldn't have the guts.

Nothing I've posted here has anything to do with "guts" or "tough guys". Might want to stick with your GI Joe dolls.

You posted about a statue in Durham NC. I posted about a statue in Durham NC. See how that works. Might want to run along before you get embarrassed.