Condemning Fascism

[Rigby5]

Yet, the Righties, when asked directly, as I have done in this thread, have been pretty clear in condemning fascism unlike the lefties in our "sister thread".
So, the conservatives/republicans of this board, seem to think that they are anti-Fascists.
The actions of your enemies are not fitting in with your expectations based on your views on them.
The obvious implication is, that your assumptions are wrong.
Would you like to address this contradiction between your beliefs and reality?

Wrong.
The right only falsely CLAIMS to deny fascism based on an attempt to distance themselves from WWII propaganda.
The reality is fascism is and always has been the goal of the wealthy elite, and the right in the US has been fascist since the 1880s or so.
Examples are Prohibition, the War on Drugs, the invasion of Iraq, the war in Vietnam, etc.
All lies violating truth and rights, in the pursuit of profits.

 

[Rigby5]

Pointing out that kneeling during the Anthem is anti-American ,is not hyperpatriotism, but just normal healthy patriotism.

Wrong.
Patriotism means supporting individual rights of a democratic republic, and anyone supporting individual rights would NEVER support expressions of subservience to a central authority that is involved in illegal wars like Vietnam, Iraq, Syria, etc.
As far as domestic policies go, the War on Drugs, asset forfeiture, mandated sentences, etc., are all very anti-democratic republic as well.
Anyone who would support these crimes under the guise of patriotism, is a criminal.

 

[Rigby5]

No one is promoting any fascist ideas except ANTIFA

Wrong.
For example, the reality anyone supporting a 2 party system is a fascist criminal because an enforced 2 party system prevents any real or good candidates from being elected, illegally.
There is no legal basis for a 2 party system or primary.

 

[progressive hunter]

Wrong.
Patriotism means supporting individual rights of a democratic republic, and anyone supporting individual rights would NEVER support expressions of subservience to a central authority that is involved in illegal wars like Vietnam, Iraq, Syria, etc.
As far as domestic policies go, the War on Drugs, asset forfeiture, mandated sentences, etc., are all very anti-democratic republic as well.
Anyone who would support these crimes under the guise of patriotism, is a criminal.

constitutional republic not a democratic republic,,

 

[Rigby5]

How coincidental all that happened when Biden was appointed. Do you expect me to believe your feeble excuses. Piss off.

That's ridiculous.
Biden had nothing at all to do with anything I mentioned.
The illegal invasion of Iraq was Bush, Hillary, and Kerry, for example.
The lack of public health care was everyone.

 

[Rigby5]

constitutional republic not a democratic republic,,

There is no way to protect individual rights without a democratic republic, and the work "republic" implies "constitutional".

 

[progressive hunter]

There is no way to protect individual rights without a democratic republic, and the work "republic" implies "constitutional".

wrong,, its the constitution that protects individual rights,, if we were a democratic republic they could just vote them away,,

 

[Soupnazi630]

Not according to any communists.
Communism is the exact opposite of mass slavery and tyranny accord to communists like Marx or the Israeli kibbutzim that claim to be communists.
The only motive for slavery or tyranny is profits, and the communists proclaim to be against profits, and instead want to emphasis individual rights.
Communism is the closest anyone has ever come to the individual rights of populism.
The only limitations is how it could be implemented on a large scale, since the mechanism of empathy won't work then.

Yes according to communists.
Marx described comunism AS slavery in a mass scale.
Slavery is not profitable.

Communism is presceily the antithesis of individual rights.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Having unfair tax laws, lack of public health care, etc., are fascist.
Fascism is giving an unfair advantage or power to the wealthy elite, over the poor majority.
Such as union busting, monopolies, control over media propaganda, etc.
For example, we would not have invaded Iraq or have a war on drugs if not for lies from the wealthy elite controlling us.

No that is not fascism and 8in fact unfair is strictly subjective.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Wrong.
For example, the reality anyone supporting a 2 party system is a fascist criminal because an enforced 2 party system prevents any real or good candidates from being elected, illegally.
There is no legal basis for a 2 party system or primary.

The two party system is not based on lawnor is it illegal.

Antifa is the closest thing to fascists that we have in the US they simply call themselves anti fascist as a means of subterfuge

 

[Colin norris]

constitutional republic not a democratic republic,,

What's the difference between the two republic?

 

[Correll]

Only ignorant recalcitrant republicans believe he wasn't a fascist. The rest of the world do.

He was behind the riots and you know it.
Why are you protecting him? You'll never have to suck up to him again.
You'd be better suited in North Korea.

Your inability to support your position with anything beside repetition is noted.

My points stands. ONly a retard would call Trump a fascist.

You are that retard.

 

[Correll]

Nonsense.
Hitler worked his way up to becoming noticed through the populist SA, but why did he have the whole SA killed in the "Night of the Long Knives"?
When Hitler was appointed Chancellor by Hindenburg, it was not to support populism.
He was selected by the wealthy elite, and he totally turned his back on the populists, the SA.
The whole German military, the industrialists who used slave labor, etc., were all the wealthy elite.
The was nothing at all populist about the Nazis once the SS replaced the SA.
The only similarity is that the Nazis used nationalist propaganda to whip up popular support for wars, but that is racism more than class struggle.

My God that is absurd. Because ONE factor, Hindenberg was not motivated by populism, that negates the entire prior history of the Party?

You really are just a shameless liar.

 

[Correll]

Wrong.
The right only falsely CLAIMS to deny fascism based on an attempt to distance themselves from WWII propaganda.
The reality is fascism is and always has been the goal of the wealthy elite, and the right in the US has been fascist since the 1880s or so.
Examples are Prohibition, the War on Drugs, the invasion of Iraq, the war in Vietnam, etc.
All lies violating truth and rights, in the pursuit of profits.

My point about the contrasting behavior of the Right and the Lef ton this board stands.

Your claims are unsupported retarded shit.

 

[Correll]

Wrong.
Patriotism means supporting individual rights of a democratic republic, and anyone supporting individual rights would NEVER support expressions of subservience to a ....

What a load of retarded crap.


1. Patriotism is love of country.

2. THIS country has the goal of individual rights..

3. Loyalty does not equal "subservience". You are just an anti-American asshole spewing anti-American lies.

 

[Correll]

Wrong.
For example, the reality anyone supporting a 2 party system is a fascist criminal because an enforced 2 party system prevents any real or good candidates from being elected, illegally.
There is no legal basis for a 2 party system or primary.

What a load of silly crap. Are you really this hysterical or are you just pretending to avoid any serious discussion?

 

[struth]

Wrong.
Patriotism means supporting individual rights of a democratic republic, and anyone supporting individual rights would NEVER support expressions of subservience to a central authority that is involved in illegal wars like Vietnam, Iraq, Syria, etc.
As far as domestic policies go, the War on Drugs, asset forfeiture, mandated sentences, etc., are all very anti-democratic republic as well.
Anyone who would support these crimes under the guise of patriotism, is a criminal.

um most of those things were championed by dems like Wilson, Johnson, and xiden

nor are they all examples of fascism

fascism is to the far left of what Conservatives in this country believe…it’s socialism light…obama was a champion of fascism ideals, picking winners and losers on the market.

 

[Correll]

um most of those things were championed by dems like Wilson, Johnson, and xiden

nor are they all examples of fascism

fascism is to the far left of what Conservatives in this country believe…it’s socialism light…obama was a champion of fascism ideals, picking winners and losers on the market.

Rigby5 is just spouting absolutely retarded points, without any attempt to support or defend them. He is not here to engage in discussion or debate, but just to spam his ideology, in the hopes of burying any real debate in shit.


He knows that his agenda is vile and harmful, so he is actively trying to shut down any real contest of ideas, because he knows that his ideas can't win.


Shouting and repetition and force, is what he is basing his hopes on.

 

[WTH_Progs?]

I cannot stand the word Facism, because like everything else the left touch the term & definition were destroyed. When a leftist uses the term it's mere parroting and has no meaning other than perhaps a confession.

 

[Colin norris]

Your inability to support your position with anything beside repetition is noted.

It's Real because it is true. You kept repeating about a stolen election although you knew it was bullshit. The difference being his assault in the capitol price a what I said and you supported the assault.

My points stands. ONly a retard would call Trump a fascist.

Well most of international experts viewed it as that. Even China took lessons from his failed attempt to install fascism. I know it's embarrassing for you to admit he was a fascist but you'll never get credibility by continually denying it.
Only a retard would still believe theres a god and immaculate conception.
The same for thinking trump was a patriot.

Stick.to bashing bibles dickhead. You know nothing.

You are that retard.