Commutation of Stone Sentence Correct Move

[meaner gene]

The people didn’t elect Trump. He was elected because a minority of voters was able to collect enough electoral votes to put him in office. It wasn’t the will of the people. The people mostly voted for someone else.

Factually incorrect

No you are ignoring the truth. Trump was not elected by the "will of the people" he had no "mandate", he was elected by a fluke of the way the electoral college works. Just like Bush in 2000, or Rutherford B. Hayes, they won in the EC, but lost in the eyes the people.

 

[Billiejeens]

There can be no conspiracy without an underlying crime.
Communicating with Wikileaks....not a crime.

Wikileaks was the receiver of stolen property, which is a crime. Conspiring with criminals to further foster that crime, is a crime.

Factually false

 

[Slade3200]

There can be no conspiracy without an underlying crime.
Communicating with Wikileaks....not a crime.

Wikileaks was the receiver of stolen property, which is a crime. Conspiring with criminals to further foster that crime, is a crime.

Factually false

Prove it

 

[Billiejeens]

The people didn’t elect Trump. He was elected because a minority of voters was able to collect enough electoral votes to put him in office. It wasn’t the will of the people. The people mostly voted for someone else.

Factually incorrect

No you are ignoring the truth. Trump was not elected by the "will of the people" he had no "mandate", he was elected by a fluke of the way the electoral college works. Just like Bush in 2000, or Rutherford B. Hayes, they won in the EC, but lost in the eyes the people.

Factually false.

 

[meaner gene]

Breaking into the DNC server was a crime. The e-mails were the fruits of that crime, and anyone dealing with the fruits of a crime, knowing they were the fruits of a crime are guilty of dealing in stolen property.

Anyone?
No. That's not true.

As I said, anyone knowing they were the fruits of a crime.

 

[Billiejeens]

There can be no conspiracy without an underlying crime.
Communicating with Wikileaks....not a crime.

Wikileaks was the receiver of stolen property, which is a crime. Conspiring with criminals to further foster that crime, is a crime.

Factually false

Prove it

It's not a crime for a news organization to disseminate information, however they got it.
What really pisses you idiots off, I think is that wiki showed the world what a piece of shit your girl is.
You all worked so hard to bury that.

 

[Billiejeens]

Breaking into the DNC server was a crime. The e-mails were the fruits of that crime, and anyone dealing with the fruits of a crime, knowing they were the fruits of a crime are guilty of dealing in stolen property.

Anyone?
No. That's not true.

As I said, anyone knowing they were the fruits of a crime.

Still no.

 

[meaner gene]

Factually false.

Wrong once again. It figures.

 

[Billiejeens]

The people didn’t elect Trump. He was elected because a minority of voters was able to collect enough electoral votes to put him in office. It wasn’t the will of the people. The people mostly voted for someone else.

Factually incorrect

No you are ignoring the truth. Trump was not elected by the "will of the people" he had no "mandate", he was elected by a fluke of the way the electoral college works. Just like Bush in 2000, or Rutherford B. Hayes, they won in the EC, but lost in the eyes the people.

Elected in the exact manner every other President has been elected
Exactly the same.
Government school failed you son.

 

[meaner gene]

It's not a crime for a news organization to disseminate information, however they got it.
What really pisses you idiots off, I think is that wiki showed the world what a piece of shit your girl is.
You all worked so hard to bury that.

Wrong again. News organizations aren't immune to the same laws as everyone else. This is why newspapers haven't published "stolen" Trump tax records, and why with anything they reported, they disclosed their "lawful" source.

 

[meaner gene]

No you are ignoring the truth. Trump was not elected by the "will of the people" he had no "mandate", he was elected by a fluke of the way the electoral college works. Just like Bush in 2000, or Rutherford B. Hayes, they won in the EC, but lost in the eyes the people.

Elected in the exact manner every other President has been elected
Exactly the same.
Government school failed you son.

In government school they covered how to win the EC, but lose the popular vote. Which is what happened with Bush, Hayes and Trump.

It's common to give the winner the "by popular demand" title, but that is not always true, and you need to learn that.

 

[Billiejeens]

It's not a crime for a news organization to disseminate information, however they got it.
What really pisses you idiots off, I think is that wiki showed the world what a piece of shit your girl is.
You all worked so hard to bury that.

Wrong again. News organizations aren't immune to the same laws as everyone else. This is why newspapers haven't published "stolen" Trump tax records, and why with anything they reported, they disclosed their "lawful" source.

I laugh

 

[Billiejeens]

No you are ignoring the truth. Trump was not elected by the "will of the people" he had no "mandate", he was elected by a fluke of the way the electoral college works. Just like Bush in 2000, or Rutherford B. Hayes, they won in the EC, but lost in the eyes the people.

Elected in the exact manner every other President has been elected
Exactly the same.
Government school failed you son.

In government school they covered how to win the EC, but lose the popular vote. Which is what happened with Bush, Hayes and Trump.

It's common to give the winner the "by popular demand" title, but that is not always true, and you need to learn that.

I do not

 

[dudmuck]

The people didn’t elect Trump. He was elected because a minority of voters was able to collect enough electoral votes to put him in office. It wasn’t the will of the people. The people mostly voted for someone else.

Factually incorrect

No you are ignoring the truth. Trump was not elected by the "will of the people" he had no "mandate", he was elected by a fluke of the way the electoral college works. Just like Bush in 2000, or Rutherford B. Hayes, they won in the EC, but lost in the eyes the people.

Factually false.

Nominee	Donald Trump	Hillary Clinton

Popular vote	62,984,828	65,853,514

 

[Billiejeens]

The people didn’t elect Trump. He was elected because a minority of voters was able to collect enough electoral votes to put him in office. It wasn’t the will of the people. The people mostly voted for someone else.

Factually incorrect

No you are ignoring the truth. Trump was not elected by the "will of the people" he had no "mandate", he was elected by a fluke of the way the electoral college works. Just like Bush in 2000, or Rutherford B. Hayes, they won in the EC, but lost in the eyes the people.

Factually false.

Nominee	Donald Trump	Hillary Clinton

Popular vote	62,984,828	65,853,514

I laugh

 

[meaner gene]

... and you need to learn that.

I do not

Are you advocating your ignorance or your stupidity?

 

[meaner gene]

Factually false.

Nominee	Donald Trump	Hillary Clinton

Popular vote	62,984,828	65,853,514

I laugh

Apparently ignorance is bliss.

 

[bripat9643]

Note the part where it says "to commit offense." What "offense" did he conspire to commit?

Breaking into the DNC server was a crime. The e-mails were the fruits of that crime, and anyone dealing with the fruits of a crime, knowing they were the fruits of a crime are guilty of dealing in stolen property.

Wrong, asshole. Was stealing the Pentagon papers a crime? Then why didn't anyone at the NYT get arrested for publishing them?

Information isn't treated the same was as "stolen property."

You ******* morons don't even know your own history.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Wikileaks was the receiver of stolen property, which is a crime.

And when the New York Times and Washington Post received the stolen Pentagon Papers, what happened?

The pentagon papers were not "stolen"

The Pentagon Papers, officially titled Report of the Office of the Secretary of Defense Vietnam Task Force, is a United States Department of Defense history of the United States' political and military involvement in Vietnam from 1945 to 1967. The papers were released by Daniel Ellsberg, who had worked on the study; they were first brought to the attention of the public on the front page of The New York Times in 1971

Daniel Ellsberg knew the leaders of the task force well. He had worked as an aide to McNaughton from 1964 to 1965, had worked on the study for several months in 1967, and Gelb and Halperin approved his access to the work at RAND in 1969

The pentagon papers were not "stolen"

Who owned them? Ellsberg?

 

[bripat9643]

If you threaten to kill the president it's a crime, whether you were joking or not.

Wrong. It's not a crime if you are not serious, you ******* moron.

On March 21, 2010, a young man in Arlington, Texas posted a rant threatening the life of President Barack Obama on the popular online classifieds site Craigslist. The post, which expressed anger over passage of the Affordable Care Act, stated the following: "It is time for Obama to die. I am dedicating my life to the death of Obama and every employee of the federal government." The Secret Service tracked the incendiary comments to Brian Dean Miller, who was living with his mother at the time, and arrested him for the crime of threatening the President.

As with most other constitutionally guaranteed liberties, the First Amendment right to free speech has its limits. Miller, whose speech most certainly crossed the line, pleaded guilty in a Dallas federal court and was sentenced to 27 months in prison without parole.

Threatening the President or Other Government Officials - FindLaw

FindLaw's explanation of the crime of threatening the President of the United States or other government officials with death, kidnapping, or bodily harm, a felony under federal law. Learn about this and more at FindLaw's Criminal Charges section.

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He was serious. Stone was not. Your analogy fails.