Comey Indicted

[Delldude]

Impeachment only extends to removal from office. There’s no criminal culpability.

The hell there can't be.

If the president is not subject to criminal law, he’s above it.

Who said he's not?

 

[Marener]

Who said he's not?

SCOTUS

 

[OODA_Loop]

Ordinarily, people are subject to criminal prosecution for lying under oath.

But not Trump.

He can be impeached like Clinton was for lying under oath. Trumps testimony was directly tied to his official capacity = impeachment.

 

[Delldude]

SCOTUS

You're lying.

 

[Marener]

He can be impeached like Clinton was for lying under oath. Trumps testimony was directly tied to his official capacity = impeachment.

But he can’t be criminally prosecuted like anyone else.

Therefore, he is allowed to commit perjury.

 

[Marener]

You're lying.

It’s literally the insane Trump v US decision.

 

[Delldude]

It’s literally the insane Trump v US decision.

It's specific in its ruling.

 

[OODA_Loop]

But he can’t be criminally prosecuted like anyone else.

Therefore, he is allowed to commit

Not true. Impeached first then can be criminally prosecuted

Once a president leaves office, the temporary immunity from federal prosecution afforded by the OLC policy vanishes. A former president can be investigated and criminally charged for actions taken before, during, or after their time in office, placing them in the same position as any other private citizen

Can the President Go to Jail for Committing a Crime?

Examining the intersection of executive power and criminal law, this article clarifies the distinct paths and legal barriers to a president’s accountability.

legalclarity.org

 

[Marener]

Not true. Impeached first then can be criminally prosecuted

Once a president leaves office, the temporary immunity from federal prosecution afforded by the OLC policy vanishes. A former president can be investigated and criminally charged for actions taken before, during, or after their time in office, placing them in the same position as any other private citizen

Can the President Go to Jail for Committing a Crime?

Examining the intersection of executive power and criminal law, this article clarifies the distinct paths and legal barriers to a president’s accountability.

legalclarity.org

Read the next paragraph that proves me right.

 

[Marener]

It's specific in its ruling.

Sort of. It definitely says the president can commit crimes and get away with it. He can’t commit any crime, but he has plenty of things he can do with his core constitutional duties.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Read the next paragraph that proves me right.

It says exactly what I am saying immune from prosecution while in office.

Impeach and charge criminally.

 

[Marener]

It says exactly what I am saying immune from prosecution while in office.

Impeach and charge criminally.

Okay. I’ll do it for you.

The next paragraph:
A legal question in any prosecution of a former president is the distinction between “official acts” and private conduct. In the 2024 case Trump v. United States, the Supreme Court ruled that former presidents have absolute immunity from criminal prosecution for “core” official acts derived from their constitutional powers.

Absolute immunity means that they can NEVER be prosecuted.

 

[Delldude]

Sort of. It definitely says the president can commit crimes and get away with it. He can’t commit any crime, but he has plenty of things he can do with his core constitutional duties.

So why all the noise then?

It's s literally the insane Trump v US decision.

Wouldn't be an issue if it was Biden vs US.

 

[Marener]

So why all the noise then?

Because I actually think the president should be subject to the law like the rest of us.

Wouldn't be an issue if it was Biden vs US.

We aren’t the same. You like criminals.

 

[Delldude]

Because I actually think the president should be subject to the law like the rest of us.

Congress has similar protections.

We aren’t the same.

Thank God for that... nobody is.

You like criminals

Yes, especially the ones that your party is trying to protect who are getting rounded up daily.
Miller upped the ante.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Okay. I’ll do it for you.

The next paragraph:
A legal question in any prosecution of a former president is the distinction between “official acts” and private conduct. In the 2024 case Trump v. United States, the Supreme Court ruled that former presidents have absolute immunity from criminal prosecution for “core” official acts derived from their constitutional powers.

Absolute immunity means that they can NEVER be prosecuted.

Yes immunity for core official acts.

Criminal acts are not core official acts.

 

[Marener]

Yes immunity for core official acts.

Criminal acts are not core official acts.

Uh, no. If that were the case, the entire decision would be unnecessary and they wouldn’t have had to spend dozen of pages justifying the immunity granted.

I just gave you an example. The president could commit perjury. His testimony in that example would be part of his core constitutional duties as the chief law enforcement officer of the nation. Therefore, he can’t be prosecuted.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Uh, no. If that were the case, the entire decision would be unnecessary and they wouldn’t have had to spend dozen of pages justifying the immunity granted.

I just gave you an example. The president could commit perjury. His testimony in that example would be part of his core constitutional duties as the chief law enforcement officer of the nation. Therefore, he can’t be prosecuted.

Perjury is not a core constitutional act. He could be impeached, as Clinton was for the same thing. Then prosecuted criminally.

He could not be prosecuted criminally for deploying ICE for he has administrative control of the deployment Federal agencies per the USC as an example.

 

[Marener]

Perjury is not a core constitutional act. He could be impeached, as Clinton was for the same thing. Then prosecuted criminally.

He could not be prosecuted criminally for deploying ICE for he has administrative control of the deployment Federal agencies per the USC as an example.

He would be testifying in his official capacity for which he has core constitutional authority.

That means he can’t be prosecuted for anything related to exercising that capacity.

 

[Delldude]

Uh, no. If that were the case, the entire decision would be unnecessary and they wouldn’t have had to spend dozen of pages justifying the immunity granted.

I just gave you an example. The president could commit perjury. His testimony in that example would be part of his core constitutional duties as the chief law enforcement officer of the nation. Therefore, he can’t be prosecuted.

You've overlooked some key things.