Combined Thread: "Solutions" for mass shootings. Gun Control, Mental Health, School Security, etc

[basquebromance]

"Between 1998 and 2017, the NRA spent $200 million on all political activities combined. Unions spent $1.7 billion on politics in the 2016 cycle alone." - Wacky Ben Shapiro

 

[DrLove]

The latest on Dear Nikolas - guess we can now put to bed that he was a radical Muslim

"I hate jews, ni**ers, immigrants"

Racism was a constant theme in the chat group, which was called "Murica (American flag emoji) (eagle emoji) great" -- a name it was given by Cruz.

The hatred he and others in the group espoused met little resistance from its active members. In one part of the group chat, Cruz wrote that he hated, "jews, ni**ers, immigrants."

He talked about killing Mexicans, keeping black people in chains and cutting their necks. The statements were not made in jest.

There are hundreds of racist messages, racist memes and racist Instagram videos posted in the group.

One member even joked about Cruz's particular venomousness, saying that although he hated black people, too, he didn't "to a point I wanna kill the (sic) like nick."

Cruz said he hated black people simply because they were black; Cruz hated Jews because he believed they wanted to destroy the world.

After one member expressed hatred for gay people, Cruz agreed, saying, "Shoot them in the back of head."

White women drew Cruz's hatred as well, specifically those in interracial relationships, whom he referred to repeatedly as traitors.​

Group chat messages show school shooter obsessed with race, violence and guns - CNN

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Having breathlessly reported that Florida gunman Nikolas Cruz was a member of a white supremacist group, media outlets across the world failed to issue retractions when it emerged that this story was completely fake news.

The farce began when the Anti-Defamation League and Associated Press reported that a representative of the Republic of Florida Militia, a group that believes in a “white ethnostate,” told them that Cruz was a member of the organization.

However, it quickly emerged that the story had begun as a prank on the notorious 4chan messaging board after members had convinced another individual, Jordan Jereb, to falsely tell the media that Cruz was an “affiliate” of the white supremacist group.

This was then picked up by the ADL and the Associated Press and .................

Fake News: Lie About Florida Shooter Being Member of “White Supremacist” Group Not Retracted

Hey, if the KKK says he's a member what do you expect the media to do? The media didn't create the fake news the Klan did.

You should learn how the DEMOCRAT are the bastards who formed teh group KKK...... this is one small reason so many of you GU haters are fkn morons you know nothing and believe EVERYTHING you SHOULDN'T...
BIG PHARMA KILLS MORE PEPLE THAN THESE GUNS EVER HAVE..

ABORTIONS KILL MORE PPL THAN GUNS EVER HAVE, BUT YOU LEFTIST FKS ARE WILLING TO PULL THAT TRIGGER TO A BABY'S HEAD WHO CAN'F FEND FOR ITSELF......

SPEW THE BS TO AN IDIOT WHOSE DUMB ENOUGH TO BELIEVE IT. LOL .

Why do white racists love to point out that the white racists used to be democrats? The fact is today you are the KKK and you are a republican. So do you realize this has completely changed over time?

In the 60's you would be a Democrat. Get it?

The racist Democrats of the sixties are still the racist Democrats of today. The lie that racist Democrats changed to Republicans is a farce on it's face. But, it does demonstrate just how easily some people can be duped when they hear what they want to hear. The Democrat party created that lie, and their pawns in the lame stream media pushed it. You should ask yourself why you believe something that doesn't really make sense.

Holden Caulfield

The spoiled Oedipal sons of rich Conservatives took over Liberalism.

 

[basquebromance]

"Do you want Congress to DO something? The Gun Violence Restraining Order Act would give law enforcement the ability to restrict access to guns for people in crisis. It's already saving lives in states that have it. Experts say it could have stopped the shooting in Florida." - Maxine Waters

Gun restraining order might have thwarted Florida shooting: experts

 

[Dogmaphobe]

You want a solution, people?

Stop treating it as a game of cowboys and Indians squaring off against one another instead of the scourge of school shootings.

Simple minded people rely on simple solutions. This is a complex issue and requires a response more complex than can be addressed by all the simple minded partisans playing their childish games of finger pointing.

 

[MindWars]

 

[basquebromance]

We always search for answers after a tragedy like this. In this case one of the policy solutions is obvious. Red Flag Law could’ve made a difference.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/five-states-allow-guns-to-be-seized-before-someone-can-commit-violence/2018/02/16/78ee4cc8-128c-11e8-9570-29c9830535e5_story.html

 

[basquebromance]

"17-yr-old female arrested for Terrorism Hoax and False Personation, after creating fake social media account to post school shooting threats. She is now locked up in a juvenile detention facility." - Oklahoma City Police

 

[idb]

The SCUM bag TRUMP HATERS they are beyond pathetic skanks.

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Julian Assange on Twitter


Trump haters are the most ignorant hateful pieces of shit on the planet. No wonder they have no higher power other than their sickening selves. Karma should find you assholes and fast.

Link?

 

[idb]

Having breathlessly reported that Florida gunman Nikolas Cruz was a member of a white supremacist group, media outlets across the world failed to issue retractions when it emerged that this story was completely fake news.

The farce began when the Anti-Defamation League and Associated Press reported that a representative of the Republic of Florida Militia, a group that believes in a “white ethnostate,” told them that Cruz was a member of the organization.

However, it quickly emerged that the story had begun as a prank on the notorious 4chan messaging board after members had convinced another individual, Jordan Jereb, to falsely tell the media that Cruz was an “affiliate” of the white supremacist group.

This was then picked up by the ADL and the Associated Press and .................

Fake News: Lie About Florida Shooter Being Member of “White Supremacist” Group Not Retracted

Hey, if the KKK says he's a member what do you expect the media to do? The media didn't create the fake news the Klan did.

If you can't trust fine people like the KKK, who can you trust?

 

[MindWars]

The SCUM bag TRUMP HATERS they are beyond pathetic skanks.

View attachment 177031

Julian Assange on Twitter


Trump haters are the most ignorant hateful pieces of shit on the planet. No wonder they have no higher power other than their sickening selves. Karma should find you assholes and fast.

Link?

Link for what?

 

[idb]

The SCUM bag TRUMP HATERS they are beyond pathetic skanks.

View attachment 177031

Julian Assange on Twitter


Trump haters are the most ignorant hateful pieces of shit on the planet. No wonder they have no higher power other than their sickening selves. Karma should find you assholes and fast.

Link?

Link for what?

This poor man being harassed.
I assume you've researched it rather than just taking a Twitter post at face value.
I've noticed recently that there seems to be a lot of disinformation on social media.

 

[MindWars]

The SCUM bag TRUMP HATERS they are beyond pathetic skanks.

View attachment 177031

Julian Assange on Twitter


Trump haters are the most ignorant hateful pieces of shit on the planet. No wonder they have no higher power other than their sickening selves. Karma should find you assholes and fast.

Link?

Link for what?

This poor man being harassed.
I assume you've researched it rather than just taking a Twitter post at face value.
I've noticed recently that there seems to be a lot of disinformation on social media.

That depends on who the sources are, and who you go to though.

They still have the authentic blue check mark, and also I don't grab information from anybody out there.

Julians site is his site, but I get what your are saying and why.

Aside from the meme, I always provide links.

 

[basquebromance]

Don’t let anyone tell you that there isn’t hope. That we can’t fight for change and win. There is and we can. We CAN get gun safety reforms to save lives if our leaders show courage.

"The NRA Can Be Beat"
Opinion | The N.R.A. Can Be Beat

 

[basquebromance]

"What if the finance industry — credit card companies like Visa, Mastercard and American Express; credit card processors like First Data; and banks like JPMorgan Chase and Wells Fargo — were to effectively set new rules for the sales of guns in America?'

For example, Visa, which published a 71-page paper in 2016 espousing its “corporate responsibility,” could easily change its terms of service to say that it won’t do business with retailers that sell assault weapons, high-capacity magazines and bump stocks, which make semiautomatic rifles fire faster. (Even the National Rifle Association has said it would support tighter restrictions on bump stocks.)

If Mastercard were to do the same, assault weapons would be eliminated from virtually every firearms store in America because otherwise the sellers would be cut off from the credit card system." - New York Times

 

[basquebromance]

"Forget about background checks. In Maryland you essentially have to go through a licensing process that can take months to even purchase a gun for your home (not to carry). Look at the results. Baltimore is the most violent city in the country" - President Trump

 

[AvgGuyIA]

The White House meeting today shows the difference between the whacky Liberal's and their stupid solutions and the genius of President Trump. He is going to arm the teachers as that is the only way to stop a shooter. It takes 7 to 10 minutes before th cops to respond. That is wasted time.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

"What if the finance industry — credit card companies like Visa, Mastercard and American Express; credit card processors like First Data; and banks like JPMorgan Chase and Wells Fargo — were to effectively set new rules for the sales of guns in America?'

For example, Visa, which published a 71-page paper in 2016 espousing its “corporate responsibility,” could easily change its terms of service to say that it won’t do business with retailers that sell assault weapons, high-capacity magazines and bump stocks, which make semiautomatic rifles fire faster. (Even the National Rifle Association has said it would support tighter restrictions on bump stocks.)

If Mastercard were to do the same, assault weapons would be eliminated from virtually every firearms store in America because otherwise the sellers would be cut off from the credit card system." - New York Times

I and millions of people will cut up our VISAs and MasterCards. Don't fuck with the 2nd.

 

[deanrd]

Right wing "solutions" tend to cover a wide range:

Hilarious
nonsensical
bizarre
unreal
dangerous

One kid pointed out what Australia did:

Australia hasn't had a fatal mass shooting since 1996. Here's what it did.

 

[deanrd]

Two of the worst solutions:

one: Load Teachers with weapons.

Yea, let's make them the first target.

two: Metal detectors, x ray machines and lots and lots of security guards.

First of all, Republicans would make teachers buy their own weapons.

Second, those machines and extra guards would never happen. Republicans would never, ever allow that much money to be spent on other people's children, which to Republicans,is just a waste of money. We have needy billionaires we have to help first.