Colorado Legalizes Weed for Recreational Use

[kaz]

Hopefully this is just the beginning of an eventual nationwide adoption. I don't smoke but I've never understood why we can't legalize it and tax it similar to how we do with alcohol. This is a good first step.

The same should happen for prostitution. More senseless restrictions for a victimless crime.

Prosititution is not even close to a victimless crime, considering the overall amount of people damaged by the sex trade. Legalizing it might help curb that but it wouldnt eliminate it.

Think about what you just said. The "sex trade" is kidnapping, forced imprisonment and rape. Granted those are not victimless crimes, but those are not prostitution, they are coercion. And coercion is wrong and a crime no matter the subject. And as you pointed out, the sex trade is more prevalent because prostitution is illegal.

If two adults agree without coercion to trade money for sex, that is a victimless crime and preposterous for government to be involved.

 

[Immanuel]

You have to be 21 to buy.

Just like beer! And we know that kids can't possibly get their hands on alcohol.

I believe the age should be dropped back to 18. If your old enough to die for your nation in a war, your old enough to get high.

I do not smoke it now, would not if it were legal and would pray my kids would not either, but the idea of making otherwise law abiding citizens into criminals and filling our prisons with them for little more than essentially drinking a glass of wine is frigging ludicrous.

By the way, I don't smoke either.

Legalize it and give it the same status as liquor.

Immie

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Good for colorado. Now, the proceeds will go to stop marijuana addiction.

What are YOU smoking! You know that whatever money is raised will go to the support of the politicians first and then the welfare state to buy votes so the politicians can continue to rape the taxpayers.

What I want to see is a nice little trade war spring up between the cartels and the legal outlets. That's going to be good.

I dont smoke that junk nor use any drugs but if colorado elects to do so I respect their state right to do so. Of course it always goes to the politicians. Therein lies the travesty.

 

[Katzndogz]

Ok.....forced sex workers are victims but that can definitely be helped/fixed if it was regulated and licensed properly.

What they found in the Netherlands is that even with legalized prostitution there were still forced sex workers.

Since there's really no difference, legalized prostiution isn't going to change anything one way or other.

Woah, wait a second. You mean to tell me that laws don't completely eliminate a behavior/action?

Shit, we should just make murder legal now, since people are still being murdered despite the law that says they can't.

That sort of follows along the lines of legalizing marijuana since we can't stop it. There's no real way to stop illegal prostitution no matter how it's legalized. For one thing, there's no real way to define prostitution. Is it a straight sex for money exchange or can we include girls who have sex after a nice dinner and a movie, or a little present from a friend with benefits?

 

[Katzndogz]

Good for colorado. Now, the proceeds will go to stop marijuana addiction.

What are YOU smoking! You know that whatever money is raised will go to the support of the politicians first and then the welfare state to buy votes so the politicians can continue to rape the taxpayers.

What I want to see is a nice little trade war spring up between the cartels and the legal outlets. That's going to be good.

I dont smoke that junk nor use any drugs but if colorado elects to do so I respect their state right to do so. Of course it always goes to the politicians. Therein lies the travesty.

Letting communities decide whether to permit pot or not is a good compromise. Some cities in California that have legalized medical marijuana have already changed and now have ordinances that prohibit pot use or possession.

 

[Rocko]

recent medical journals have linked pot to schizophrenia. Even if untrue, pot is a gateway drug in the very least.

This doesn't seem like it's going to end well for you. But let's let's take this reasoning out further and see where it goes.

Pot is a gateway drug, so let's make sure that kids who use it are buying it illegally from drug users who sell other drugs.

Yep, the initial thought was right, this didn't end well for you.

BTW, I smoked dope in high school. Never tried anything else, haven't smoked pot in 30 years.

I believe it's suffice to say you're in the minority.

 

[Katzndogz]

I like the way China deals with drug use. Dealers get their organs taken for transplant. Users get sentenced to work rehabilitation in a labor camp. After three, three year sentences of work rehabilitation that fail and the addict is still using, they don't get released.

 

[Moonglow]

Smoking pot does not make everyone a criminal.
I started at 16.
Honorably discharge from the Army. 27E TOW anti-armor missile systems technician/ 71L Administration Specialist/%2 D power generation Equipment repair/operator/maint.
College grad, on Dean's list
Owned my own business 1984-2012
When times were learn in business I worked for other people.
Retired at 52
Work part time security at night clubs for the last 8 years
Raised 4 children which do not smoke weed because I was open and honest about it.


People that do not use commit crimes.


If you doubt me, private message me and I will send info by scanner over e-mail.

 

[BlindBoo]

I like the way China deals with drug use. Dealers get their organs taken for transplant. Users get sentenced to work rehabilitation in a labor camp. After three, three year sentences of work rehabilitation that fail and the addict is still using, they don't get released.

So, move to China if you love their laws so much........

 

[percysunshine]

Reality check....

"The first sale, orchestrated as a news media photo opportunity, was made to Sean Azzariti, an Iraq War veteran who has lobbied publicly for legalization and says pot helps mitigate problems stemming from his post-traumatic stress syndrome. Azzariti, who served six years in the Marine Corps and two tours in Iraq, spent about $60 at 3D Cannabis Center for an eighth of an ounce of "Bubba Kush" and a pot-laden truffle."
Iraq War vet makes Colorado's first pot purchase



$500 per ounce ???

Maybe there has been some price inflation since I wandered around in the culture, but nobody is going to pay that price.

What is it with liberals and state marketing? Maybe they could pass an Affordable Pot Act. They could call it 'Obamaspleef' or something.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Nah, the real gateway drug is tobacco/nicotine. It is usually the first drug most all drug addicts try first. Followed by alcohol......And then there is this....

Now, the most powerful evidence against the supposed marijuana-insanity link has come forth, with the publication of a new Harvard study showing that evidence of increased prevalence of schizophrenia among people who smoked pot in their teens can be explained by genetic and other familial factors instead of any causal relationship between pot and mental illness.

Why Does the Myth of Marijuana and Schizophrenia Persist Despite Numerous Debunkings? | Alternet

And we should believe Alternet rather than medical reports because........?????

.....of the link to the Harvard study......

Abstract

Background

Cannabis is one of the most highly abused illicit drugs in the world. Several studies suggest a link between adolescent cannabis use and schizophrenia. An understanding of this link would have significant implications for legalization of cannabis and its medicinal value. The present study aims to determine whether familial morbid risk for schizophrenia is the crucial factor that underlies the association of adolescent cannabis use with the development of schizophrenia.

Methods

Consecutively obtained probands were recruited into four samples: sample 1: 87 non-psychotic controls with no drug use; sample 2: 84 non-psychotic controls with cannabis use; sample 3: 32 patients with a schizophrenia spectrum psychosis with no drug use; sample 4: 76 patients with schizophrenia spectrum psychosis with cannabis use. All cannabis using subjects used this drug during adolescence, and no other substance, with the exception of alcohol. Structured interviews of probands and family informants were used to obtain diagnostic information about probands and all their known relatives.

Results

There was an increased morbid risk for schizophrenia in relatives of the cannabis using and non-using patient samples compared with their respective non-psychotic control samples (p=.002, p<.001 respectively). There was no significant difference in morbid risk for schizophrenia between relatives of the patients who use or do not use cannabis (p=.43).

Conclusions

The results of the current study suggest that having an increased familial morbid risk for schizophrenia may be the underlying basis for schizophrenia in cannabis users and not cannabis use by itself.

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The next excuse will be "Uhhh...Stupid science and their stupid scientists. What do they know"

 

[Katzndogz]

secede


Smoking pot does not make everyone a criminal.
I started at 16.
Honorably discharge from the Army. 27E TOW anti-armor missile systems technician/ 71L Administration Specialist/%2 D power generation Equipment repair/operator/maint.
College grad, on Dean's list
Owned my own business 1984-2012
When times were learn in business I worked for other people.
Retired at 52
Work part time security at night clubs for the last 8 years
Raised 4 children which do not smoke weed because I was open and honest about it.


People that do not use commit crimes.


If you doubt me, private message me and I will send info by scanner over e-mail.

Heroin addicts say the same thing. In fact, most criminals can cite everything that they've done, in addition to that burglary little thing.

 

[ClosedCaption]

secede


Smoking pot does not make everyone a criminal.
I started at 16.
Honorably discharge from the Army. 27E TOW anti-armor missile systems technician/ 71L Administration Specialist/%2 D power generation Equipment repair/operator/maint.
College grad, on Dean's list
Owned my own business 1984-2012
When times were learn in business I worked for other people.
Retired at 52
Work part time security at night clubs for the last 8 years
Raised 4 children which do not smoke weed because I was open and honest about it.


People that do not use commit crimes.


If you doubt me, private message me and I will send info by scanner over e-mail.

Curious, did you hide your use? Or did you wait until they were older and gave them the talk?

 

[kaz]

recent medical journals have linked pot to schizophrenia. Even if untrue, pot is a gateway drug in the very least.

This doesn't seem like it's going to end well for you. But let's let's take this reasoning out further and see where it goes.

Pot is a gateway drug, so let's make sure that kids who use it are buying it illegally from drug users who sell other drugs.

Yep, the initial thought was right, this didn't end well for you.

BTW, I smoked dope in high school. Never tried anything else, haven't smoked pot in 30 years.

I believe it's suffice to say you're in the minority.

Not so, and in particular when you consider the reality that people who want harder drugs may use pot along the way, but they would have found other paths. And people like me who weren't interested in harder drugs weren't going to go on by smoking pot any more than you do if you drink alcohol.

And you ignored my main point, which is that you say it's a gateway drug, so you want to continue the current system where kids buy pot from ... drug dealers. If you know any high schoolers, ask them how hard it is to buy all the pot they want. You are ignoring reality. I think we should leave that job to liberals.

 

[Moonglow]

Reality check....

"The first sale, orchestrated as a news media photo opportunity, was made to Sean Azzariti, an Iraq War veteran who has lobbied publicly for legalization and says pot helps mitigate problems stemming from his post-traumatic stress syndrome. Azzariti, who served six years in the Marine Corps and two tours in Iraq, spent about $60 at 3D Cannabis Center for an eighth of an ounce of "Bubba Kush" and a pot-laden truffle."
Iraq War vet makes Colorado's first pot purchase



$500 per ounce ???

Maybe there has been some price inflation since I wandered around in the culture, but nobody is going to pay that price.

What is it with liberals and state marketing? Maybe they could pass an Affordable Pot Act. They could call it 'Obamaspleef' or something.

Your not getting reggie at that price your getting chronic.

reggie has around 7-8% THC

chronic has 17-24% THC

Cost more, smoke less.

 

[Moonglow]

secede


Smoking pot does not make everyone a criminal.
I started at 16.
Honorably discharge from the Army. 27E TOW anti-armor missile systems technician/ 71L Administration Specialist/%2 D power generation Equipment repair/operator/maint.
College grad, on Dean's list
Owned my own business 1984-2012
When times were learn in business I worked for other people.
Retired at 52
Work part time security at night clubs for the last 8 years
Raised 4 children which do not smoke weed because I was open and honest about it.


People that do not use commit crimes.


If you doubt me, private message me and I will send info by scanner over e-mail.

Curious, did you hide your use? Or did you wait until they were older and gave them the talk?

Never hid it.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Yes - potheads are a menace since they all drive cars. The auto industry is funding this "grassroots" movement. Car crashes mean car sales.

Better watch out. The MIB are looking for you I hear....

 

[ClosedCaption]

That Price is about right.

 

[asaratis]

State taxes on the sales of pot are expected to be 67 MILLION dollars. I wonder what the federal tax will be?

 

[Katzndogz]

I like the way China deals with drug use. Dealers get their organs taken for transplant. Users get sentenced to work rehabilitation in a labor camp. After three, three year sentences of work rehabilitation that fail and the addict is still using, they don't get released.

So, move to China if you love their laws so much........

Much better to work for Chinese type laws here, or just the Chinese to implement them.