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I don't disagree that there is a massive push....and desire by the folks currently running the Federal Govt to not maintain those protections....many in the party in control view the Constitution as a bad thing....They don't have the power because we maintain our rights...certainly the seperate branches help....if it w
The crime in China is caused by it's oppressive leftist Govt on the people, and it's not reported like traditional crime.
It's hard for a citizen to commit a crime, when they are already in a concentration camp
Well, they don't have power because the limits on power are maintained. But it's certainly getting shaky right now.
Well, China's government isn't really "leftist". It's an extreme form of government with right and left wing policies.
But people do commit crime. Maybe you haven't been to China, it's not that oppressive as long as you don't trample on politicians's careers.
No it's leftist..Mao was a leftist...it's a Socialist system
It's not oppressive unless you trample on the Govt? Gotcha...that's very oppressive
China isn't Maoist, they rejected Maoism (whatever the fuck that is, Mao was just an egotist who messed up a lot, didn't really have much of a plan) when Deng XiaoPing was in charge (but not in charge).
China officially calls itself Communist, but isn't because they're not moving towards Communism at all. Xi has decided, recently, that he needs to shore up his authority by going more Socialist. However this Socialism is pretty conservative, they ban tits on TV, even cleavage is banned, that's not left wing at all. Education isn't left wing, it's all about keeping people ignorant and malleable but producing people capable of making money. Women aren't considered equals, though officially they are, gay people aren't banned, but they're also not protected and will be attacked in subtle ways by the government.
China is what it is. It's not a free country. But it's not a place where everyone is worried they're going to be taken to the gulag either. If you don't understand what it's like to be in China, it's not my fault..Maoism - Wikipedia
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Mao was the founded of the People's Republic of China...he's their George Washington...they did not reject him,
Dem leadership in the US, love him and admire him....https://www.foxnews.com/politics/white-house-christmas-decor-featuring-mao-zedong-comes-under-fire
"Biden Quotes Mao Zedong to Explain Kamala Harris Pick
Joe Biden used a quote from brutal Chinese dictator Mao Zedong to explain his pick of Kamala Harris as his running mate during the ticket’s first public interview Sunday.When asked by ABC News’s Robin Roberts whether he felt “pressure to select a black woman,” Biden responded by saying he did...www.yahoo.com
Biden’s reference to “that old expression” is in fact a well-known proclamation that Mao made to promote women leaving the home amid the Cultural Revolution in China. It was then widely used as propaganda during the “Great Leap Forward,” during which Mao’s regime caused the deaths of an estimated 45 million Chinese people from 1958 to 1962.
From Mao to Obama
John Fund writes in The Wall Street Journal that Anita Dunn claims Mao Tse Tung is one of her favorite political philosophers.www.wsj.com
I don't disagree that China isn't Communist...they are Socialist...and there is nothing Conservative about Socialism. Actually, today, they are more Fascist in nature then Socialist. Fascism is one step below Socialism
Come on, a little more reality here. You're playing nonsense politics.
Mao was the first leader of China, and China under Mao was a disaster. Under Deng Xiaoping, who Mao nearly killed, China started on its path to being an economic powerhouse it is today. Even Xi ran away from Mao's policies in the past. He's only embracing them now because they're convenient for him.
But China rejected everything about Maoism. Because Mao stood for chaos. China isn't chaos any more, it's organized and functions.
If you know anything about that Andy Warhol picture of Mao, you'd not have made the silly comment you made about Democrats loving him. It's such a nonsense comment it doesn't really require me to say much other than you shouldn't make such dumb comments.
You think there's nothing conservative about Socialism? Well that's your look out. Maybe when you've learned some more you'll realize how wrong you are.
What is right wing? What is left wing? They're pretty abstract terms in themselves. But I'm sensing a person who's never been to China, knows very little about China to make such a statement.
Pornography has been banned. Is this a left wing or a right wing thing to do?
Of course Maoism is a disaster...all socialism is...
I am not playing politics here...just highlighting that the left has deadly and disaster policies.
Deng helped with the opening of China, but he keep the same socialist and oppressive policies for the people of China
Is all Socialism a disaster? China's not a disaster. Economically it's outstanding, doubling it's GDP every 8 years or so.
The left has "deadly and disaster policies" and so does the right. It's not to do with left or right, it's to do with individuals and the choices they make.
Deng kept the same socialist policies as Mao? Like what? I want specifics because I think you don't actually know.
Yes, and yes China is a disaster. Oppressing it's citizens and massive human rights abuses is a disaster. Poverty is a disaster. I can't believe you start a post by saying China is not a disaster then end it by talking about individualism.
Your hero Deng literally ran people over with tanks
The problem here is that China is much further behind the US in terms of development. Really China started to grow from the mid 1970s.
What China is doing in Xinjiang and Tibet isn't much different to what the US did with the Native Americans.
China wants to have a society without conflict, so in Xinjiang it wants to make sure all the people are "Chinese". I don't agree with the way they're going about it, then again I didn't agree with the Trail of Tears, I don't agree with the way the US deals with Native Americans even today.
A lot of black people feel left out of the American Dream and it's not hard to see why. Something like 25% poverty for black people compared to 7% poverty for white people, the police in certain areas acting in an oppressive manner and the like.
China has done so much to end poverty since 1975 it's incredible. A high speed rail network that is the biggest in the world. New roads, new apartment building, new parks, infrastructure to allow GDP to double every EIGHT YEARS. It took the US about 20 years to achieve that.
China has good points, people who grew up in mud houses are now living in decent accommodation. It has bad points.
The US has good points and it has bad points.
Both China and the US are going to be a negative force on this planet in the next fifty years, using their power to fuck over smaller countries.
haha China is an oppressive regime it's socialist policies have created poverty like no other, and made it far behind the US in terms of development.
It's drastically more poor then the US and frankly has been around massively longer...the reason it's behind is leftwing Govt.
You're just making things up.
China has actually REDUCED its socialist policies in the past. Only now has Xi decided to shore up his power base by making a new city that is based on Socialist values.
China plans to build new city nearly three times the size of New York
Announcement of the Xiongan New Area leads to a frenzy of property speculation with investors clogging roads to get to sitewww.theguardian.com
Xiongan (said like she-ong-an) is going to be totally owned by the government, people can rent and work for socialist businesses.
Prior to this China got rid of state farms and state businesses in quite large numbers. There are still enough of them, like steel manufacturers and the like, but mostly China is capitalist.
As for poverty, it's decreased a lot.
China Poverty Rate 1990-2023
Poverty headcount ratio at $5.50 a day is the percentage of the population living on less than $5.50 a day at 2011 international prices. As a result of revisions in PPP exchange rates, poverty rates for individual countries cannot be compared with poverty rates reported in earlier editions.www.macrotrends.net
- "China poverty rate for 2016 was 24.00%, a 3.2% decline from 2015.
- China poverty rate for 2015 was 27.20%, a 4.3% decline from 2014.
- China poverty rate for 2014 was 31.50%, a 4.9% decline from 2013.
- China poverty rate for 2013 was 36.40%, a 8% decline from 2012"
And anyone who knows China, knows this is the case. Compare India and China, it's incredible the difference. China is more or less a first world country in the cities, and the country is catching up massively. A lot of old homes are being replaced with modern concrete homes.
Yes, China is poorer than the US. Of course it is. It was a backwards third world country in 1975 when Mao disappeared. But since then they've move forwards, developed a lot. Infrastructure is sometimes BETTER than the US has, especially their train network.
People have hope, they're moving out of poverty. Their average GDP is still low, but then living costs are much, much lower. You can live for $500 a month in a second tier city easily and save money or buy an apartment.
The problem I have is that most people's view of China is WRONG. And you're not showing me anything different.
What am I making up? Yes, it's become more Fascist because the Socialist policies were causing massive poverty.
hahah yeah you can live on $500 a month in a "second-tier" city...hahahh
Folks in the US can live on $500 a month too...we call them POOR.
I don't see anything worth commenting on here.
well when you are defending the oppressive, murderous Chinese Govt it's best to keep quiet and walk away
Wow, what an argument.
You seem to be defending the US government. A murderous US government, uses invasions, bombing, violence to get what it wants, to enrich itself.
The US govt went into Iraq and Afghanistan and got hundreds of thousands of people killed. Had a coup in Venezuela to take down a democratically elected leader (when ironically Bush hadn't got more votes than his opponent).
You have been defending the Chinese Communist Party this entire thread...one of the most oppressive regimes in the modern world....yes I'll be happy to defend the United States against them
Literally, currently, it's a state that has concentration camps, where murder, rape, and massive human rights abuse are taking place against Chinese people for simply being Muslim.
No, I haven't. I haven't defended the CCP one bit.
That you think I have shows the problem in this thread.
hahah you are all over this thread talking about China
Well, looks like this conversation has descended to complete and utter nonsense on your part. So it's over.