CNN-Thomas Jefferson Memorial Should be Removed

[paddymurphy]

It'll be fascinating to see how far all of this goes.

No "offensive" or potentially "offensive" messages anywhere, from public places to clothing to the written word. Words and phrases that might be considered "microaggressive" stamped out. "Consequences" for anyone who dares to "offend". Any historical leader who did something that might be considered "offensive" stricken from the public square and history books.

This is starting to look like a sci-fi movie.

.

It'll be fascinating to see how far all of this goes.

No "offensive" or potentially "offensive" messages anywhere, from public places to clothing to the written word. Words and phrases that might be considered "microaggressive" stamped out. "Consequences" for anyone who dares to "offend". Any historical leader who did something that might be considered "offensive" stricken from the public square and history books.

This is starting to look like a sci-fi movie.

.

More like 1984

Or Ray Bradbury's 1953 than sci-fi novel, "Fahrenheit 451" and the PC crowd, CNN and the rest of the liberal media as the firemen. Yea - lets send in Halliburton to tear down one of the most beautiful monuments in Washington, D.C., the centerpiece of the annual Cherry Blossom festival. Lets eliminate from American history, that offensive monument to the author of the Declaration of Independence - the man who wrote "all men are created equal" - the basis for the political idea that created America in the first place, and gave rise to and legitimacy of the Civil Right's movement. The man who, as Colonial America's Ambassador to France, brought their army and navy into the American Revolutionary War, turning the tide for our independence. A man who served eight years as President of the United States, and is one of the co-founder's - along with Andrew Jackson - of the liberal, politically correct Democratic Party of today, which wants to eliminate his legacy from our history. Horrid, wicked man, who went on to write the Articles of Declaration for the State of Virginia and founded the Ivy-league level University Of Virginia. No - we can't have the memory of a man like that remain in our history offending the PC crowd, despite what another President, John Kennedy, commented on, when hosting a glittering state dinner of professor's, scientists and musicians in the White House - "This is the finest assembly of talent ever gathered in this house ----- since Thomas Jefferson dined alone." Get rid of the bastard.........

You do understand, don't you, that not a single person, democrat or otherwise, has suggested doing anything about the Jefferson Memorial or any other memorial. This is about removing one flag from the grounds of one state Capitol. Get a grip.

 

[paddymurphy]

Yeah....and the Ten Commandments was removed the same way. Now if you try praying in public somebody calls the cops.

nope. see, you're just making shit up.

Not at all.

Only people allowed to worship God freely in America are Muslims. Christians get a bunch of shit for it.

You are delusional.

"Now if you try praying in public somebody calls the cops." Prove it.

Here yah go.......
12 Students Suspended for Praying at School

"Cops" is basically a codeword for authority figures......at least that is the context I intended.

12 Students Suspended for Praying at School

A dozen students attending Heritage High School in Vancouver, Wash., located on the state’s southern border, were suspended on Friday for praying at school.

Ten in the group were suspended for ten days while two received one-day, in-school suspensions for holding a morning prayer meeting. The group has now sought out legal assistance.

“This situation underscores the ignorance of school officials regarding the constitutional rights of students," said Liberty Counsel President Anita L. Staver in a statement. Liberty Counsel is a nonprofit litigation, education and policy organization dedicated to advancing religious freedom.

According to the group’s statement, the affected students had met together a few weeks ago to initiate a school prayer club. They were refused by the school’s vice principal, Alex Otoupal, who explained that they could not meet in a private room.

The individuals, who met for about two weeks before 7 a.m., decided to pray in the school cafeteria, instead, where an alleged Satanist student complained to the school office. The area was considered to be a well-trafficked area, and the prayer meeting supposedly would disrupt education

The prayer group was instructed by the vice principal to go and pray outside rather than in the cafeteria. The students persisted in praying in the lunch room, however, because of the inclement weather outside. As a result, they were suspended for ten days.
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Did not think you could. They were not told they could not pray; they were told that they could not hold their meeting in the middle of the cafeteria. The prayer group was instructed by the vice principal to go and pray outside rather than in the cafeteria.

 

[paddymurphy]

Yeah....and the Ten Commandments was removed the same way. Now if you try praying in public somebody calls the cops.

nope. see, you're just making shit up.

Not at all.

Only people allowed to worship God freely in America are Muslims. Christians get a bunch of shit for it.

You are delusional.

"Now if you try praying in public somebody calls the cops." Prove it.

Here yah go.......
12 Students Suspended for Praying at School

"Cops" is basically a codeword for authority figures......at least that is the context I intended.

12 Students Suspended for Praying at School

A dozen students attending Heritage High School in Vancouver, Wash., located on the state’s southern border, were suspended on Friday for praying at school.

Ten in the group were suspended for ten days while two received one-day, in-school suspensions for holding a morning prayer meeting. The group has now sought out legal assistance.

“This situation underscores the ignorance of school officials regarding the constitutional rights of students," said Liberty Counsel President Anita L. Staver in a statement. Liberty Counsel is a nonprofit litigation, education and policy organization dedicated to advancing religious freedom.

According to the group’s statement, the affected students had met together a few weeks ago to initiate a school prayer club. They were refused by the school’s vice principal, Alex Otoupal, who explained that they could not meet in a private room.

The individuals, who met for about two weeks before 7 a.m., decided to pray in the school cafeteria, instead, where an alleged Satanist student complained to the school office. The area was considered to be a well-trafficked area, and the prayer meeting supposedly would disrupt education

The prayer group was instructed by the vice principal to go and pray outside rather than in the cafeteria. The students persisted in praying in the lunch room, however, because of the inclement weather outside. As a result, they were suspended for ten days.
​

And, of course, what you posted about this 8 year old incident is not what really happened.

"Heritage administrators offered use of a classroom to the group, per written district policy that allows religious or other student clubs to use school facilities during non-school hours, with limited supervision.

Bentley said it was the physical "disruption" of the prayer group inside the busy campus corridor and open defiance of faculty orders that earned the suspensions, not the prayers themselves.

"No one gets suspended because they pray. This is a story of some kids who chose to defy a legitimate request by administrators to not disrupt other students," Bentley said."

So, they were suspended because they insisted on gathering in the middle of the hallway in the morning, blocking other students from getting to class. They were offered the opportunity to hold their prayer meeting in a classroom. But, no, they need to be seen by other students. This was not about praying; it was about getting notice and attention. I can just imagine your outrage if a group of muslim students demanded the right to toss down their prayer rugs in the hallway and say their prayer in the morning as kids were trying to get to class.

 

[mudwhistle]

nope. see, you're just making shit up.

Not at all.

Only people allowed to worship God freely in America are Muslims. Christians get a bunch of shit for it.

You are delusional.

"Now if you try praying in public somebody calls the cops." Prove it.

Here yah go.......
12 Students Suspended for Praying at School

"Cops" is basically a codeword for authority figures......at least that is the context I intended.

12 Students Suspended for Praying at School

A dozen students attending Heritage High School in Vancouver, Wash., located on the state’s southern border, were suspended on Friday for praying at school.

Ten in the group were suspended for ten days while two received one-day, in-school suspensions for holding a morning prayer meeting. The group has now sought out legal assistance.

“This situation underscores the ignorance of school officials regarding the constitutional rights of students," said Liberty Counsel President Anita L. Staver in a statement. Liberty Counsel is a nonprofit litigation, education and policy organization dedicated to advancing religious freedom.

According to the group’s statement, the affected students had met together a few weeks ago to initiate a school prayer club. They were refused by the school’s vice principal, Alex Otoupal, who explained that they could not meet in a private room.

The individuals, who met for about two weeks before 7 a.m., decided to pray in the school cafeteria, instead, where an alleged Satanist student complained to the school office. The area was considered to be a well-trafficked area, and the prayer meeting supposedly would disrupt education

The prayer group was instructed by the vice principal to go and pray outside rather than in the cafeteria. The students persisted in praying in the lunch room, however, because of the inclement weather outside. As a result, they were suspended for ten days.
​

Did not think you could. They were not told they could not pray; they were told that they could not hold their meeting in the middle of the cafeteria. The prayer group was instructed by the vice principal to go and pray outside rather than in the cafeteria.

What's the difference?

NOne.

 

[Mac1958]

It'll be fascinating to see how far all of this goes.

No "offensive" or potentially "offensive" messages anywhere, from public places to clothing to the written word. Words and phrases that might be considered "microaggressive" stamped out. "Consequences" for anyone who dares to "offend". Any historical leader who did something that might be considered "offensive" stricken from the public square and history books.

This is starting to look like a sci-fi movie.

.

It'll be fascinating to see how far all of this goes.

No "offensive" or potentially "offensive" messages anywhere, from public places to clothing to the written word. Words and phrases that might be considered "microaggressive" stamped out. "Consequences" for anyone who dares to "offend". Any historical leader who did something that might be considered "offensive" stricken from the public square and history books.

This is starting to look like a sci-fi movie.

.

More like 1984

Or Ray Bradbury's 1953 than sci-fi novel, "Fahrenheit 451" and the PC crowd, CNN and the rest of the liberal media as the firemen. Yea - lets send in Halliburton to tear down one of the most beautiful monuments in Washington, D.C., the centerpiece of the annual Cherry Blossom festival. Lets eliminate from American history, that offensive monument to the author of the Declaration of Independence - the man who wrote "all men are created equal" - the basis for the political idea that created America in the first place, and gave rise to and legitimacy of the Civil Right's movement. The man who, as Colonial America's Ambassador to France, brought their army and navy into the American Revolutionary War, turning the tide for our independence. A man who served eight years as President of the United States, and is one of the co-founder's - along with Andrew Jackson - of the liberal, politically correct Democratic Party of today, which wants to eliminate his legacy from our history. Horrid, wicked man, who went on to write the Articles of Declaration for the State of Virginia and founded the Ivy-league level University Of Virginia. No - we can't have the memory of a man like that remain in our history offending the PC crowd, despite what another President, John Kennedy, commented on, when hosting a glittering state dinner of professor's, scientists and musicians in the White House - "This is the finest assembly of talent ever gathered in this house ----- since Thomas Jefferson dined alone." Get rid of the bastard.........

It really is fascinating to watch, and watching this all unfold will be fascinating, too.

They are clearly feeling the momentum now, and this behavior will only increase. Every symbol or word or phrase or artifact that can be connected to our history in any way is subject to this, including religious (make that "Christian") ones. Their disdain for this country is clear now, but they know that they have enough people intimidated and conditioned that they won't have to stop.

They'll deny it and mock anyone who fights it, because they know they're going to get what they want: A compliant, intimidated populace that won't challenge this "fundamental change".

Breaks my heart, but it is what it is.

.

 

[paddymurphy]

Not at all.

Only people allowed to worship God freely in America are Muslims. Christians get a bunch of shit for it.

You are delusional.

"Now if you try praying in public somebody calls the cops." Prove it.

Here yah go.......
12 Students Suspended for Praying at School

"Cops" is basically a codeword for authority figures......at least that is the context I intended.

12 Students Suspended for Praying at School

A dozen students attending Heritage High School in Vancouver, Wash., located on the state’s southern border, were suspended on Friday for praying at school.

Ten in the group were suspended for ten days while two received one-day, in-school suspensions for holding a morning prayer meeting. The group has now sought out legal assistance.

“This situation underscores the ignorance of school officials regarding the constitutional rights of students," said Liberty Counsel President Anita L. Staver in a statement. Liberty Counsel is a nonprofit litigation, education and policy organization dedicated to advancing religious freedom.

According to the group’s statement, the affected students had met together a few weeks ago to initiate a school prayer club. They were refused by the school’s vice principal, Alex Otoupal, who explained that they could not meet in a private room.

The individuals, who met for about two weeks before 7 a.m., decided to pray in the school cafeteria, instead, where an alleged Satanist student complained to the school office. The area was considered to be a well-trafficked area, and the prayer meeting supposedly would disrupt education

The prayer group was instructed by the vice principal to go and pray outside rather than in the cafeteria. The students persisted in praying in the lunch room, however, because of the inclement weather outside. As a result, they were suspended for ten days.
​

Did not think you could. They were not told they could not pray; they were told that they could not hold their meeting in the middle of the cafeteria. The prayer group was instructed by the vice principal to go and pray outside rather than in the cafeteria.

What's the difference?

NOne.

From Lifesite News. "A student who participated in the prayer group said the point of holding it publicly was to encourage others to join in.

"We’re not bothering anybody. If we’re not preaching and passing out fliers, why can’t we do it?" 16-year-old Megan Gaultier told The Columbian. "Basically, there are just the pagans who are against it." The group included Baptist, Methodist, Roman Catholic and several Russian Orthodox students, Gaultier said.

"If we’re in a secluded room, they can’t just join in" Gaultier said, as she had done herself. The small group had attracted more participants over the 1-2 week period the students met, The Oregonian reported.

An assistant superintendent at the school said the students were given suspensions for refusing to obey a faculty directive not to block traffic in the public area.

"No one gets suspended because they pray. This is a story of some kids who chose to defy a legitimate request by administrators to not disrupt other students," Bill Bentley said. Administrators had offered a classroom for the students’ use, to ensure other students were not offended and the group did not obstruct traffic." They were not denied the right to pray; they were denied the right to do so in the middle of a hallway, disrupting other students.

 

[mudwhistle]

nope. see, you're just making shit up.

Not at all.

Only people allowed to worship God freely in America are Muslims. Christians get a bunch of shit for it.

You are delusional.

"Now if you try praying in public somebody calls the cops." Prove it.

Here yah go.......
12 Students Suspended for Praying at School

"Cops" is basically a codeword for authority figures......at least that is the context I intended.

12 Students Suspended for Praying at School

A dozen students attending Heritage High School in Vancouver, Wash., located on the state’s southern border, were suspended on Friday for praying at school.

Ten in the group were suspended for ten days while two received one-day, in-school suspensions for holding a morning prayer meeting. The group has now sought out legal assistance.

“This situation underscores the ignorance of school officials regarding the constitutional rights of students," said Liberty Counsel President Anita L. Staver in a statement. Liberty Counsel is a nonprofit litigation, education and policy organization dedicated to advancing religious freedom.

According to the group’s statement, the affected students had met together a few weeks ago to initiate a school prayer club. They were refused by the school’s vice principal, Alex Otoupal, who explained that they could not meet in a private room.

The individuals, who met for about two weeks before 7 a.m., decided to pray in the school cafeteria, instead, where an alleged Satanist student complained to the school office. The area was considered to be a well-trafficked area, and the prayer meeting supposedly would disrupt education

The prayer group was instructed by the vice principal to go and pray outside rather than in the cafeteria. The students persisted in praying in the lunch room, however, because of the inclement weather outside. As a result, they were suspended for ten days.
​

And, of course, what you posted about this 8 year old incident is not what really happened.

"Heritage administrators offered use of a classroom to the group, per written district policy that allows religious or other student clubs to use school facilities during non-school hours, with limited supervision.

Bentley said it was the physical "disruption" of the prayer group inside the busy campus corridor and open defiance of faculty orders that earned the suspensions, not the prayers themselves.

"No one gets suspended because they pray. This is a story of some kids who chose to defy a legitimate request by administrators to not disrupt other students," Bentley said."

So, they were suspended because they insisted on gathering in the middle of the hallway in the morning, blocking other students from getting to class. They were offered the opportunity to hold their prayer meeting in a classroom. But, no, they need to be seen by other students. This was not about praying; it was about getting notice and attention. I can just imagine your outrage if a group of muslim students demanded the right to toss down their prayer rugs in the hallway and say their prayer in the morning as kids were trying to get to class.

Bullshit.....a cafeteria isn't a hallway. The students decided that the school didn't have the right to tell them they couldn't pray even in private. So they used this as a protest by praying in public.



fail.

 

[Ravi]

You are delusional.

"Now if you try praying in public somebody calls the cops." Prove it.

Here yah go.......
12 Students Suspended for Praying at School

"Cops" is basically a codeword for authority figures......at least that is the context I intended.

12 Students Suspended for Praying at School

A dozen students attending Heritage High School in Vancouver, Wash., located on the state’s southern border, were suspended on Friday for praying at school.

Ten in the group were suspended for ten days while two received one-day, in-school suspensions for holding a morning prayer meeting. The group has now sought out legal assistance.

“This situation underscores the ignorance of school officials regarding the constitutional rights of students," said Liberty Counsel President Anita L. Staver in a statement. Liberty Counsel is a nonprofit litigation, education and policy organization dedicated to advancing religious freedom.

According to the group’s statement, the affected students had met together a few weeks ago to initiate a school prayer club. They were refused by the school’s vice principal, Alex Otoupal, who explained that they could not meet in a private room.

The individuals, who met for about two weeks before 7 a.m., decided to pray in the school cafeteria, instead, where an alleged Satanist student complained to the school office. The area was considered to be a well-trafficked area, and the prayer meeting supposedly would disrupt education

The prayer group was instructed by the vice principal to go and pray outside rather than in the cafeteria. The students persisted in praying in the lunch room, however, because of the inclement weather outside. As a result, they were suspended for ten days.
​

Did not think you could. They were not told they could not pray; they were told that they could not hold their meeting in the middle of the cafeteria. The prayer group was instructed by the vice principal to go and pray outside rather than in the cafeteria.

What's the difference?

NOne.

From Lifesite News. "A student who participated in the prayer group said the point of holding it publicly was to encourage others to join in.

"We’re not bothering anybody. If we’re not preaching and passing out fliers, why can’t we do it?" 16-year-old Megan Gaultier told The Columbian. "Basically, there are just the pagans who are against it." The group included Baptist, Methodist, Roman Catholic and several Russian Orthodox students, Gaultier said.

"If we’re in a secluded room, they can’t just join in" Gaultier said, as she had done herself. The small group had attracted more participants over the 1-2 week period the students met, The Oregonian reported.

An assistant superintendent at the school said the students were given suspensions for refusing to obey a faculty directive not to block traffic in the public area.

"No one gets suspended because they pray. This is a story of some kids who chose to defy a legitimate request by administrators to not disrupt other students," Bill Bentley said. Administrators had offered a classroom for the students’ use, to ensure other students were not offended and the group did not obstruct traffic." They were not denied the right to pray; they were denied the right to do so in the middle of a hallway, disrupting other students.

Kid doesn't seem very bright. They are praying in public to encourage others to join in but somehow that is not preaching or pushing their religion on others. LMAO

 

[mudwhistle]

"Now if you try praying in public somebody calls the cops." Prove it.

Here yah go.......
12 Students Suspended for Praying at School

"Cops" is basically a codeword for authority figures......at least that is the context I intended.

12 Students Suspended for Praying at School

A dozen students attending Heritage High School in Vancouver, Wash., located on the state’s southern border, were suspended on Friday for praying at school.

Ten in the group were suspended for ten days while two received one-day, in-school suspensions for holding a morning prayer meeting. The group has now sought out legal assistance.

“This situation underscores the ignorance of school officials regarding the constitutional rights of students," said Liberty Counsel President Anita L. Staver in a statement. Liberty Counsel is a nonprofit litigation, education and policy organization dedicated to advancing religious freedom.

According to the group’s statement, the affected students had met together a few weeks ago to initiate a school prayer club. They were refused by the school’s vice principal, Alex Otoupal, who explained that they could not meet in a private room.

The individuals, who met for about two weeks before 7 a.m., decided to pray in the school cafeteria, instead, where an alleged Satanist student complained to the school office. The area was considered to be a well-trafficked area, and the prayer meeting supposedly would disrupt education

The prayer group was instructed by the vice principal to go and pray outside rather than in the cafeteria. The students persisted in praying in the lunch room, however, because of the inclement weather outside. As a result, they were suspended for ten days.
​

Did not think you could. They were not told they could not pray; they were told that they could not hold their meeting in the middle of the cafeteria. The prayer group was instructed by the vice principal to go and pray outside rather than in the cafeteria.

What's the difference?

NOne.

From Lifesite News. "A student who participated in the prayer group said the point of holding it publicly was to encourage others to join in.

"We’re not bothering anybody. If we’re not preaching and passing out fliers, why can’t we do it?" 16-year-old Megan Gaultier told The Columbian. "Basically, there are just the pagans who are against it." The group included Baptist, Methodist, Roman Catholic and several Russian Orthodox students, Gaultier said.

"If we’re in a secluded room, they can’t just join in" Gaultier said, as she had done herself. The small group had attracted more participants over the 1-2 week period the students met, The Oregonian reported.

An assistant superintendent at the school said the students were given suspensions for refusing to obey a faculty directive not to block traffic in the public area.

"No one gets suspended because they pray. This is a story of some kids who chose to defy a legitimate request by administrators to not disrupt other students," Bill Bentley said. Administrators had offered a classroom for the students’ use, to ensure other students were not offended and the group did not obstruct traffic." They were not denied the right to pray; they were denied the right to do so in the middle of a hallway, disrupting other students.

Kid doesn't seem very bright. They are praying in public to encourage others to join in but somehow that is not preaching or pushing their religion on others. LMAO

No law against that ........yet.

 

[Ravi]

Here yah go.......
12 Students Suspended for Praying at School

"Cops" is basically a codeword for authority figures......at least that is the context I intended.

12 Students Suspended for Praying at School

A dozen students attending Heritage High School in Vancouver, Wash., located on the state’s southern border, were suspended on Friday for praying at school.

Ten in the group were suspended for ten days while two received one-day, in-school suspensions for holding a morning prayer meeting. The group has now sought out legal assistance.

“This situation underscores the ignorance of school officials regarding the constitutional rights of students," said Liberty Counsel President Anita L. Staver in a statement. Liberty Counsel is a nonprofit litigation, education and policy organization dedicated to advancing religious freedom.

According to the group’s statement, the affected students had met together a few weeks ago to initiate a school prayer club. They were refused by the school’s vice principal, Alex Otoupal, who explained that they could not meet in a private room.

The individuals, who met for about two weeks before 7 a.m., decided to pray in the school cafeteria, instead, where an alleged Satanist student complained to the school office. The area was considered to be a well-trafficked area, and the prayer meeting supposedly would disrupt education

The prayer group was instructed by the vice principal to go and pray outside rather than in the cafeteria. The students persisted in praying in the lunch room, however, because of the inclement weather outside. As a result, they were suspended for ten days.
​

Did not think you could. They were not told they could not pray; they were told that they could not hold their meeting in the middle of the cafeteria. The prayer group was instructed by the vice principal to go and pray outside rather than in the cafeteria.

What's the difference?

NOne.

From Lifesite News. "A student who participated in the prayer group said the point of holding it publicly was to encourage others to join in.

"We’re not bothering anybody. If we’re not preaching and passing out fliers, why can’t we do it?" 16-year-old Megan Gaultier told The Columbian. "Basically, there are just the pagans who are against it." The group included Baptist, Methodist, Roman Catholic and several Russian Orthodox students, Gaultier said.

"If we’re in a secluded room, they can’t just join in" Gaultier said, as she had done herself. The small group had attracted more participants over the 1-2 week period the students met, The Oregonian reported.

An assistant superintendent at the school said the students were given suspensions for refusing to obey a faculty directive not to block traffic in the public area.

"No one gets suspended because they pray. This is a story of some kids who chose to defy a legitimate request by administrators to not disrupt other students," Bill Bentley said. Administrators had offered a classroom for the students’ use, to ensure other students were not offended and the group did not obstruct traffic." They were not denied the right to pray; they were denied the right to do so in the middle of a hallway, disrupting other students.

Kid doesn't seem very bright. They are praying in public to encourage others to join in but somehow that is not preaching or pushing their religion on others. LMAO

Now law against that ........yet.

If we had a law against not being very bright, you right wing nut jobs would all be in prison.

 

[ogibillm]

Yeah....and the Ten Commandments was removed the same way. Now if you try praying in public somebody calls the cops.

nope. see, you're just making shit up.

Not at all.

Only people allowed to worship God freely in America are Muslims. Christians get a bunch of shit for it.

You are delusional.

"Now if you try praying in public somebody calls the cops." Prove it.

Here yah go.......
12 Students Suspended for Praying at School

"Cops" is basically a codeword for authority figures......at least that is the context I intended.

12 Students Suspended for Praying at School

A dozen students attending Heritage High School in Vancouver, Wash., located on the state’s southern border, were suspended on Friday for praying at school.

Ten in the group were suspended for ten days while two received one-day, in-school suspensions for holding a morning prayer meeting. The group has now sought out legal assistance.

“This situation underscores the ignorance of school officials regarding the constitutional rights of students," said Liberty Counsel President Anita L. Staver in a statement. Liberty Counsel is a nonprofit litigation, education and policy organization dedicated to advancing religious freedom.

According to the group’s statement, the affected students had met together a few weeks ago to initiate a school prayer club. They were refused by the school’s vice principal, Alex Otoupal, who explained that they could not meet in a private room.

The individuals, who met for about two weeks before 7 a.m., decided to pray in the school cafeteria, instead, where an alleged Satanist student complained to the school office. The area was considered to be a well-trafficked area, and the prayer meeting supposedly would disrupt education

The prayer group was instructed by the vice principal to go and pray outside rather than in the cafeteria. The students persisted in praying in the lunch room, however, because of the inclement weather outside. As a result, they were suspended for ten days.
​

so not suspended for praying in public. got it.

 

[Valerie]

Kid doesn't seem very bright.

No law against that ........yet.

you seem worried.

 

[ogibillm]

Not at all.

Only people allowed to worship God freely in America are Muslims. Christians get a bunch of shit for it.

You are delusional.

"Now if you try praying in public somebody calls the cops." Prove it.

Here yah go.......
12 Students Suspended for Praying at School

"Cops" is basically a codeword for authority figures......at least that is the context I intended.

12 Students Suspended for Praying at School

A dozen students attending Heritage High School in Vancouver, Wash., located on the state’s southern border, were suspended on Friday for praying at school.

Ten in the group were suspended for ten days while two received one-day, in-school suspensions for holding a morning prayer meeting. The group has now sought out legal assistance.

“This situation underscores the ignorance of school officials regarding the constitutional rights of students," said Liberty Counsel President Anita L. Staver in a statement. Liberty Counsel is a nonprofit litigation, education and policy organization dedicated to advancing religious freedom.

According to the group’s statement, the affected students had met together a few weeks ago to initiate a school prayer club. They were refused by the school’s vice principal, Alex Otoupal, who explained that they could not meet in a private room.

The individuals, who met for about two weeks before 7 a.m., decided to pray in the school cafeteria, instead, where an alleged Satanist student complained to the school office. The area was considered to be a well-trafficked area, and the prayer meeting supposedly would disrupt education

The prayer group was instructed by the vice principal to go and pray outside rather than in the cafeteria. The students persisted in praying in the lunch room, however, because of the inclement weather outside. As a result, they were suspended for ten days.
​

Did not think you could. They were not told they could not pray; they were told that they could not hold their meeting in the middle of the cafeteria. The prayer group was instructed by the vice principal to go and pray outside rather than in the cafeteria.

What's the difference?

NOne.

the difference is the difference between reality and fantasy. you posted fantasy. paddy posted reality.

 

[mudwhistle]

Did not think you could. They were not told they could not pray; they were told that they could not hold their meeting in the middle of the cafeteria. The prayer group was instructed by the vice principal to go and pray outside rather than in the cafeteria.

What's the difference?

NOne.

From Lifesite News. "A student who participated in the prayer group said the point of holding it publicly was to encourage others to join in.

"We’re not bothering anybody. If we’re not preaching and passing out fliers, why can’t we do it?" 16-year-old Megan Gaultier told The Columbian. "Basically, there are just the pagans who are against it." The group included Baptist, Methodist, Roman Catholic and several Russian Orthodox students, Gaultier said.

"If we’re in a secluded room, they can’t just join in" Gaultier said, as she had done herself. The small group had attracted more participants over the 1-2 week period the students met, The Oregonian reported.

An assistant superintendent at the school said the students were given suspensions for refusing to obey a faculty directive not to block traffic in the public area.

"No one gets suspended because they pray. This is a story of some kids who chose to defy a legitimate request by administrators to not disrupt other students," Bill Bentley said. Administrators had offered a classroom for the students’ use, to ensure other students were not offended and the group did not obstruct traffic." They were not denied the right to pray; they were denied the right to do so in the middle of a hallway, disrupting other students.

Kid doesn't seem very bright. They are praying in public to encourage others to join in but somehow that is not preaching or pushing their religion on others. LMAO

Now law against that ........yet.

If we had a law against not being very bright, you right wing nut jobs would all be in prison.

Says one of the sheep following their lying leaders over a cliff.

 

[mudwhistle]

You are delusional.

"Now if you try praying in public somebody calls the cops." Prove it.

Here yah go.......
12 Students Suspended for Praying at School

"Cops" is basically a codeword for authority figures......at least that is the context I intended.

12 Students Suspended for Praying at School

A dozen students attending Heritage High School in Vancouver, Wash., located on the state’s southern border, were suspended on Friday for praying at school.

Ten in the group were suspended for ten days while two received one-day, in-school suspensions for holding a morning prayer meeting. The group has now sought out legal assistance.

“This situation underscores the ignorance of school officials regarding the constitutional rights of students," said Liberty Counsel President Anita L. Staver in a statement. Liberty Counsel is a nonprofit litigation, education and policy organization dedicated to advancing religious freedom.

According to the group’s statement, the affected students had met together a few weeks ago to initiate a school prayer club. They were refused by the school’s vice principal, Alex Otoupal, who explained that they could not meet in a private room.

The individuals, who met for about two weeks before 7 a.m., decided to pray in the school cafeteria, instead, where an alleged Satanist student complained to the school office. The area was considered to be a well-trafficked area, and the prayer meeting supposedly would disrupt education

The prayer group was instructed by the vice principal to go and pray outside rather than in the cafeteria. The students persisted in praying in the lunch room, however, because of the inclement weather outside. As a result, they were suspended for ten days.
​

Did not think you could. They were not told they could not pray; they were told that they could not hold their meeting in the middle of the cafeteria. The prayer group was instructed by the vice principal to go and pray outside rather than in the cafeteria.

What's the difference?

NOne.

the difference is the difference between reality and fantasy. you posted fantasy. paddy posted reality.

I posted reality.....and you want to ignore it.

Progressives are using the media to turn this country into something unrecognizable. A total shithole.

Imagine what would happen if everyone just shut off their TVs, radios, computers, and cell-phones and just looked at the world around us. Leave the garbage of the big cities behind and discover this country....instead of trying to tear it apart like those educated imbeciles want us to. Try going a couple weeks even without a decent meal much less all of your electronic toys and you'll discover that all of that superfluous bullshit doesn't matter.

 

[mudwhistle]

nope. see, you're just making shit up.

Not at all.

Only people allowed to worship God freely in America are Muslims. Christians get a bunch of shit for it.

You are delusional.

"Now if you try praying in public somebody calls the cops." Prove it.

Here yah go.......
12 Students Suspended for Praying at School

"Cops" is basically a codeword for authority figures......at least that is the context I intended.

12 Students Suspended for Praying at School

A dozen students attending Heritage High School in Vancouver, Wash., located on the state’s southern border, were suspended on Friday for praying at school.

Ten in the group were suspended for ten days while two received one-day, in-school suspensions for holding a morning prayer meeting. The group has now sought out legal assistance.

“This situation underscores the ignorance of school officials regarding the constitutional rights of students," said Liberty Counsel President Anita L. Staver in a statement. Liberty Counsel is a nonprofit litigation, education and policy organization dedicated to advancing religious freedom.

According to the group’s statement, the affected students had met together a few weeks ago to initiate a school prayer club. They were refused by the school’s vice principal, Alex Otoupal, who explained that they could not meet in a private room.

The individuals, who met for about two weeks before 7 a.m., decided to pray in the school cafeteria, instead, where an alleged Satanist student complained to the school office. The area was considered to be a well-trafficked area, and the prayer meeting supposedly would disrupt education

The prayer group was instructed by the vice principal to go and pray outside rather than in the cafeteria. The students persisted in praying in the lunch room, however, because of the inclement weather outside. As a result, they were suspended for ten days.
​

so not suspended for praying in public. got it.

If you say so. Problem is...I can read.

 

[paddymurphy]

Not at all.

Only people allowed to worship God freely in America are Muslims. Christians get a bunch of shit for it.

You are delusional.

"Now if you try praying in public somebody calls the cops." Prove it.

Here yah go.......
12 Students Suspended for Praying at School

"Cops" is basically a codeword for authority figures......at least that is the context I intended.

12 Students Suspended for Praying at School

A dozen students attending Heritage High School in Vancouver, Wash., located on the state’s southern border, were suspended on Friday for praying at school.

Ten in the group were suspended for ten days while two received one-day, in-school suspensions for holding a morning prayer meeting. The group has now sought out legal assistance.

“This situation underscores the ignorance of school officials regarding the constitutional rights of students," said Liberty Counsel President Anita L. Staver in a statement. Liberty Counsel is a nonprofit litigation, education and policy organization dedicated to advancing religious freedom.

According to the group’s statement, the affected students had met together a few weeks ago to initiate a school prayer club. They were refused by the school’s vice principal, Alex Otoupal, who explained that they could not meet in a private room.

The individuals, who met for about two weeks before 7 a.m., decided to pray in the school cafeteria, instead, where an alleged Satanist student complained to the school office. The area was considered to be a well-trafficked area, and the prayer meeting supposedly would disrupt education

The prayer group was instructed by the vice principal to go and pray outside rather than in the cafeteria. The students persisted in praying in the lunch room, however, because of the inclement weather outside. As a result, they were suspended for ten days.
​

so not suspended for praying in public. got it.

If you say so. Problem is...I can read.

Can you? Then you read where they were not suspended for praying; that they were offered the same accommodation offered to all school groups, a room where they could meet and pray and that they were suspended for disobeying the Vice Principal's directive to not gather in the hallways and block the other students.

 

[paddymurphy]

"Now if you try praying in public somebody calls the cops." Prove it.

Here yah go.......
12 Students Suspended for Praying at School

"Cops" is basically a codeword for authority figures......at least that is the context I intended.

12 Students Suspended for Praying at School

A dozen students attending Heritage High School in Vancouver, Wash., located on the state’s southern border, were suspended on Friday for praying at school.

Ten in the group were suspended for ten days while two received one-day, in-school suspensions for holding a morning prayer meeting. The group has now sought out legal assistance.

“This situation underscores the ignorance of school officials regarding the constitutional rights of students," said Liberty Counsel President Anita L. Staver in a statement. Liberty Counsel is a nonprofit litigation, education and policy organization dedicated to advancing religious freedom.

According to the group’s statement, the affected students had met together a few weeks ago to initiate a school prayer club. They were refused by the school’s vice principal, Alex Otoupal, who explained that they could not meet in a private room.

The individuals, who met for about two weeks before 7 a.m., decided to pray in the school cafeteria, instead, where an alleged Satanist student complained to the school office. The area was considered to be a well-trafficked area, and the prayer meeting supposedly would disrupt education

The prayer group was instructed by the vice principal to go and pray outside rather than in the cafeteria. The students persisted in praying in the lunch room, however, because of the inclement weather outside. As a result, they were suspended for ten days.
​

Did not think you could. They were not told they could not pray; they were told that they could not hold their meeting in the middle of the cafeteria. The prayer group was instructed by the vice principal to go and pray outside rather than in the cafeteria.

What's the difference?

NOne.

the difference is the difference between reality and fantasy. you posted fantasy. paddy posted reality.

I posted reality.....and you want to ignore it.

Progressives are using the media to turn this country into something unrecognizable. A total shithole.

Imagine what would happen if everyone just shut off their TVs, radios, computers, and cell-phones and just looked at the world around us. Leave the garbage of the big cities behind and discover this country....instead of trying to tear it apart like those educated imbeciles want us to. Try going a couple weeks even without a decent meal much less all of your electronic toys and you'll discover that all of that superfluous bullshit doesn't matter.

You posted a lie. And if the country is so fucked up you are welcome to live elsewhere.

 

[paddymurphy]

Not at all.

Only people allowed to worship God freely in America are Muslims. Christians get a bunch of shit for it.

You are delusional.

"Now if you try praying in public somebody calls the cops." Prove it.

Here yah go.......
12 Students Suspended for Praying at School

"Cops" is basically a codeword for authority figures......at least that is the context I intended.

12 Students Suspended for Praying at School

A dozen students attending Heritage High School in Vancouver, Wash., located on the state’s southern border, were suspended on Friday for praying at school.

Ten in the group were suspended for ten days while two received one-day, in-school suspensions for holding a morning prayer meeting. The group has now sought out legal assistance.

“This situation underscores the ignorance of school officials regarding the constitutional rights of students," said Liberty Counsel President Anita L. Staver in a statement. Liberty Counsel is a nonprofit litigation, education and policy organization dedicated to advancing religious freedom.

According to the group’s statement, the affected students had met together a few weeks ago to initiate a school prayer club. They were refused by the school’s vice principal, Alex Otoupal, who explained that they could not meet in a private room.

The individuals, who met for about two weeks before 7 a.m., decided to pray in the school cafeteria, instead, where an alleged Satanist student complained to the school office. The area was considered to be a well-trafficked area, and the prayer meeting supposedly would disrupt education

The prayer group was instructed by the vice principal to go and pray outside rather than in the cafeteria. The students persisted in praying in the lunch room, however, because of the inclement weather outside. As a result, they were suspended for ten days.
​

And, of course, what you posted about this 8 year old incident is not what really happened.

"Heritage administrators offered use of a classroom to the group, per written district policy that allows religious or other student clubs to use school facilities during non-school hours, with limited supervision.

Bentley said it was the physical "disruption" of the prayer group inside the busy campus corridor and open defiance of faculty orders that earned the suspensions, not the prayers themselves.

"No one gets suspended because they pray. This is a story of some kids who chose to defy a legitimate request by administrators to not disrupt other students," Bentley said."

So, they were suspended because they insisted on gathering in the middle of the hallway in the morning, blocking other students from getting to class. They were offered the opportunity to hold their prayer meeting in a classroom. But, no, they need to be seen by other students. This was not about praying; it was about getting notice and attention. I can just imagine your outrage if a group of muslim students demanded the right to toss down their prayer rugs in the hallway and say their prayer in the morning as kids were trying to get to class.

Bullshit.....a cafeteria isn't a hallway. The students decided that the school didn't have the right to tell them they couldn't pray even in private. So they used this as a protest by praying in public.



fail.

They were refused by the school’s vice principal, Alex Otoupal, who explained that they could not meet in a private room.

Not at all.

Only people allowed to worship God freely in America are Muslims. Christians get a bunch of shit for it.

You are delusional.

"Now if you try praying in public somebody calls the cops." Prove it.

Here yah go.......
12 Students Suspended for Praying at School

"Cops" is basically a codeword for authority figures......at least that is the context I intended.

12 Students Suspended for Praying at School

A dozen students attending Heritage High School in Vancouver, Wash., located on the state’s southern border, were suspended on Friday for praying at school.

Ten in the group were suspended for ten days while two received one-day, in-school suspensions for holding a morning prayer meeting. The group has now sought out legal assistance.

“This situation underscores the ignorance of school officials regarding the constitutional rights of students," said Liberty Counsel President Anita L. Staver in a statement. Liberty Counsel is a nonprofit litigation, education and policy organization dedicated to advancing religious freedom.

According to the group’s statement, the affected students had met together a few weeks ago to initiate a school prayer club. They were refused by the school’s vice principal, Alex Otoupal, who explained that they could not meet in a private room.

The individuals, who met for about two weeks before 7 a.m., decided to pray in the school cafeteria, instead, where an alleged Satanist student complained to the school office. The area was considered to be a well-trafficked area, and the prayer meeting supposedly would disrupt education

The prayer group was instructed by the vice principal to go and pray outside rather than in the cafeteria. The students persisted in praying in the lunch room, however, because of the inclement weather outside. As a result, they were suspended for ten days.
​

And, of course, what you posted about this 8 year old incident is not what really happened.

"Heritage administrators offered use of a classroom to the group, per written district policy that allows religious or other student clubs to use school facilities during non-school hours, with limited supervision.

Bentley said it was the physical "disruption" of the prayer group inside the busy campus corridor and open defiance of faculty orders that earned the suspensions, not the prayers themselves.

"No one gets suspended because they pray. This is a story of some kids who chose to defy a legitimate request by administrators to not disrupt other students," Bentley said."

So, they were suspended because they insisted on gathering in the middle of the hallway in the morning, blocking other students from getting to class. They were offered the opportunity to hold their prayer meeting in a classroom. But, no, they need to be seen by other students. This was not about praying; it was about getting notice and attention. I can just imagine your outrage if a group of muslim students demanded the right to toss down their prayer rugs in the hallway and say their prayer in the morning as kids were trying to get to class.

Bullshit.....a cafeteria isn't a hallway. The students decided that the school didn't have the right to tell them they couldn't pray even in private. So they used this as a protest by praying in public.



fail.

The school did not tell them they could not pray in private; they were offered the use of a classroom. Bunch of arrogant, entitled brats who think they should get special treatment.

 

[ogibillm]

Not at all.

Only people allowed to worship God freely in America are Muslims. Christians get a bunch of shit for it.

You are delusional.

"Now if you try praying in public somebody calls the cops." Prove it.

Here yah go.......
12 Students Suspended for Praying at School

"Cops" is basically a codeword for authority figures......at least that is the context I intended.

12 Students Suspended for Praying at School

A dozen students attending Heritage High School in Vancouver, Wash., located on the state’s southern border, were suspended on Friday for praying at school.

Ten in the group were suspended for ten days while two received one-day, in-school suspensions for holding a morning prayer meeting. The group has now sought out legal assistance.

“This situation underscores the ignorance of school officials regarding the constitutional rights of students," said Liberty Counsel President Anita L. Staver in a statement. Liberty Counsel is a nonprofit litigation, education and policy organization dedicated to advancing religious freedom.

According to the group’s statement, the affected students had met together a few weeks ago to initiate a school prayer club. They were refused by the school’s vice principal, Alex Otoupal, who explained that they could not meet in a private room.

The individuals, who met for about two weeks before 7 a.m., decided to pray in the school cafeteria, instead, where an alleged Satanist student complained to the school office. The area was considered to be a well-trafficked area, and the prayer meeting supposedly would disrupt education

The prayer group was instructed by the vice principal to go and pray outside rather than in the cafeteria. The students persisted in praying in the lunch room, however, because of the inclement weather outside. As a result, they were suspended for ten days.
​

so not suspended for praying in public. got it.

If you say so. Problem is...I can read.

no doubt you can read. Comprehension seems to be an issue though