The oceans and the atmosphere just like they do in every interglacial period when the northern hemisphere is deglaciating.
Climate Inequality: Billionaires emit more carbon in 90 minutes than you will in your lifetime.
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ReinyDays
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Who's saying nothing else is warming? ... I certainly don't ... everything the air touches is also warming, 2nd LoT ...
You haven't noticed the 1/2ºC increase these past 20 years? ... me neither ... that's instrumentation error, no better than white noise in the climate system ...
Toddsterpatriot
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There is no worldwide emphasis to stop killing the planet, now doubters and skeptics and selfish assholes all over the world have a champion in the White House.
Sad, but predictiable.
Fifty of the world’s richest billionaires on average produce more carbon through their investments, private jets and yachts in just over an hour and a half than the average person does in their entire lifetime, a new Oxfam report reveals today. The first-of-its-kind study, “Carbon Inequality Kills,” tracks the emissions from private jets, yachts and polluting investments and details how the super-rich are fueling inequality, hunger and death across the world. The report comes ahead of COP29 in Baku, Azerbaijan, amidst growing fears that climate breakdown is accelerating, driven largely by the emissions of the richest people.
If the world continues its current emissions, the carbon budget (the amount of CO2 that can still be added to the atmosphere without causing global temperatures to rise above 1.5°C) will be depleted in about four years. However, if everyones emissions matched those of the richest one percent, the carbon budget would be used up in under five months. And if everyone started emitting as much carbon as the private jets and superyachts of the average billionaire in Oxfam’s study, it would be gone in two days.
“The super-rich are treating our planet like their personal playground, setting it ablaze for pleasure and profit. Their dirty investments and luxury toys —private jets and yachts— aren’t just symbols of excess; they’re a direct threat to people and the planet,” said Oxfam International Executive Director Amitabh Behar.
“Oxfam’s research makes it painfully clear: the extreme emissions of the richest, from their luxury lifestyles and even more from their polluting investments, are fueling inequality, hunger and —make no mistake— threatening lives. It’s not just unfair that their reckless pollution and unbridled greed is fueling the very crisis threatening our collective future —it’s lethal," said Behar.
The report, the first-ever study to look at both the luxury transport and polluting investments of billionaires, presents detailed new evidence of how their outsized emissions are accelerating climate breakdown and wreaking havoc on lives and economies. The world’s poorest countries and communities have done the least to cause the climate crisis, yet they experience its most dangerous consequences.
Oxfam found that, on average, 50 of the world’s richest billionaires took 184 flights in a single year, spending 425 hours in the air —producing as much carbon as the average person would in 300 years. In the same period, their yachts emitted as much carbon as the average person would in 860 years.
Billionaires’ lifestyle emissions dwarf those of ordinary people, but the emissions from their investments are dramatically higher still —the average investment emissions of 50 of the world’s richest billionaires are around 340 times their emissions from private jets and superyachts combined. Through these investments, billionaires have huge influence over some of the world’s biggest corporations and are driving us over the edge of climate disaster.
- Jeff Bezos’ two private jets spent nearly 25 days in the air over a 12-month period and emitted as much carbon as the average US Amazon employee would in 207 years. Carlos Slim took 92 trips in his private jet, equivalent to circling the globe five times.
- The Walton family, heirs of the Walmart retail chain, own three superyachts that in one year produced as much carbon as around 1,714 Walmart shop workers.
If fifty of the world’s richest billionaires wanted to build hundreds of emission free nuclear power plants, would you support them?
expat_panama
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Fine, lots of things people are not saying. That said (or rather, NOT said), for the AGW thesis to make sense someone has to say what the temperature is of what is warming along w/ info on why the temp is too high.
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So what is it that we're saying is hotter? Is it the atmosphere and oceans? Is it the land masses down to what depth? Under the oceans are we saying that some depth of the earth's mantle is heating up?
This is why it's hard for me to understand AGW. Nobody is willing to say what's heating and what it's temp is --along w/ info on why the current temp. is too hot.
When they hold the GOP climate summits, they jet in over 30,000 delegates. Once the climate brigade practice what they preach, then they'll be qualified to twine about billionaires, and about anyone else for that matter.There is no worldwide emphasis to stop killing the planet, now doubters and skeptics and selfish assholes all over the world have a champion in the White House.
Sad, but predictiable.
Fifty of the world’s richest billionaires on average produce more carbon through their investments, private jets and yachts in just over an hour and a half than the average person does in their entire lifetime, a new Oxfam report reveals today. The first-of-its-kind study, “Carbon Inequality Kills,” tracks the emissions from private jets, yachts and polluting investments and details how the super-rich are fueling inequality, hunger and death across the world. The report comes ahead of COP29 in Baku, Azerbaijan, amidst growing fears that climate breakdown is accelerating, driven largely by the emissions of the richest people.
If the world continues its current emissions, the carbon budget (the amount of CO2 that can still be added to the atmosphere without causing global temperatures to rise above 1.5°C) will be depleted in about four years. However, if everyones emissions matched those of the richest one percent, the carbon budget would be used up in under five months. And if everyone started emitting as much carbon as the private jets and superyachts of the average billionaire in Oxfam’s study, it would be gone in two days.
“The super-rich are treating our planet like their personal playground, setting it ablaze for pleasure and profit. Their dirty investments and luxury toys —private jets and yachts— aren’t just symbols of excess; they’re a direct threat to people and the planet,” said Oxfam International Executive Director Amitabh Behar.
“Oxfam’s research makes it painfully clear: the extreme emissions of the richest, from their luxury lifestyles and even more from their polluting investments, are fueling inequality, hunger and —make no mistake— threatening lives. It’s not just unfair that their reckless pollution and unbridled greed is fueling the very crisis threatening our collective future —it’s lethal," said Behar.
The report, the first-ever study to look at both the luxury transport and polluting investments of billionaires, presents detailed new evidence of how their outsized emissions are accelerating climate breakdown and wreaking havoc on lives and economies. The world’s poorest countries and communities have done the least to cause the climate crisis, yet they experience its most dangerous consequences.
Oxfam found that, on average, 50 of the world’s richest billionaires took 184 flights in a single year, spending 425 hours in the air —producing as much carbon as the average person would in 300 years. In the same period, their yachts emitted as much carbon as the average person would in 860 years.
Billionaires’ lifestyle emissions dwarf those of ordinary people, but the emissions from their investments are dramatically higher still —the average investment emissions of 50 of the world’s richest billionaires are around 340 times their emissions from private jets and superyachts combined. Through these investments, billionaires have huge influence over some of the world’s biggest corporations and are driving us over the edge of climate disaster.
- Jeff Bezos’ two private jets spent nearly 25 days in the air over a 12-month period and emitted as much carbon as the average US Amazon employee would in 207 years. Carlos Slim took 92 trips in his private jet, equivalent to circling the globe five times.
- The Walton family, heirs of the Walmart retail chain, own three superyachts that in one year produced as much carbon as around 1,714 Walmart shop workers.
The majority of heat is stored in the oceans. How the ocean distributes that heat is responsible for if the northern hemisphere is glaciating or deglaciating. The planet is uniquely configured for colder temperatures when heat circulation from the Atlantic to the Arctic gets disrupted. Take away the heat being circulated from the Atlantic to the Arctic and the northern hemisphere will glaciate which will cause the atmosphere and the oceans of the entire planet to cool. Restore that heat circulation and the northern hemisphere will deglaciate which will cause the atmosphere and the oceans of the entire planet to warm like it is today.
Data which shows the oceans and atmosphere warming and cooling
What the planet has been doing for the past 3 million years
The consequences of AMOC switching off
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adk1189#:~:text=From proxy records, it has,under a slowly developing forcing.
daveman
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See, the leaders of the cult don't really care about the climate. They're wealthy, they'll be fine no matter what.
No, the whole purpose is government control over individual lives. That's what they want. Every proposed "solution" to climate change is world socialism.
And the rank-and-file cultists eat it up, ready to buy EVs even though the grid can't handle them and eat bugs like they're told.
And a quick aside for the people eager to eat bugs:
The producers don't clean the bugs' digestive tracts out, as is done with every other food animal. No, you're eating bug shit with every bite.
And you feel superior about it.
Damn retards.
expat_panama
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The oceans have about 3,000 times the mass of the atmosphere so let's understand that the oceans can store many thousand times the heat that the atmosphere can.
So what's heating --is it the oceans, the oceans + atmosphere, some part of the earth? Please forgive me for repeating myself but nobody is willing to say what's heating and what it's temp is --along w/ info on why the current temp. is too hot.
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Maybe, but my take is that the gov't doesn't care about control over our lives nearly as much and the gov't cares about reaching into our pockets. This whole AGW routine seems more and more like a government maneuver to raise taxes --all in the name of making the world better.
My preference is for letting us make the world better and let us keep our ownmoney to do so.
daveman
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Mine as well. Nobody knows better than me how to take care of me and my family. Anybody who says they do wants to take something from me.
ReinyDays
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Is it no one is willing to say ... or you didn't understand the answers you were given ...
What part of Planck's Radiation Law don't you understand? ... the performance of work requires the passage of time ... where else would the energy (or heat) be stored except as kinetic energy (= temperature)? ...
It's really complicated ... why climatology class is given in the Junior year of college ... you need a year of physics, a year of meteorology and two years calculus ... chemistry and astrophysics would be great additions ...
The ocean has 300 times the mass of the atmosphere, not 3000.
The ocean contains 1000 times the heat of the atmosphere. That's where the majority of solar energy the earth receives is stored.
The current temperature isn't too hot. It's 2C cooler than the previous interglacial period.
The sun is the source of all heating. It is remarkably consistent in the energy it supplies.
The reason the climate can change by as much as 12C between glacial and interglacial periods is because the northern hemisphere is either glaciating or deglaciating.
There have been 30 such cycles in the past 3 million years all the while the sun has been supplying a steady stream of radiation.
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"Climate change" is just another way of saying "wealth redistribution"
ReinyDays
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Be afraid ...
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expat_panama
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exactly
ReinyDays
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All the evidence of advanced civilizations on Venus melted due to Global Warming ...
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