Climate change lies are exposed

[PoliticalChic]

"THE world’s leading climate change body has been accused of losing credibility after a damning report into its research practices.


A high-level inquiry into the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change found there was “little evidence” for its claims about global warming.

It also said the panel had emphasised the negative impacts of climate change and made “substantive findings” based.

The review by the InterAcademy Council (IAC) was launched after the IPCC’s hugely embarrassing 2007 benchmark climate change report, which contained exaggerated and false claims that Himalayan glaciers could melt by 2035.

The panel was forced to admit its key claim in support of global warming was lifted from a 1999 magazine article. The report was based on an interview with a little-known Indian scientist who has since said his views were “speculation” and not backed by research.

Independent climate scientist Peter Taylor said last night: “The IPCC’s credibility has been deeply dented and something has to be done...."
Express.co.uk - Home of the Daily and Sunday Express | UK News :: Climate change lies are exposed

And, in a related story, Chris and Old Rocks have entered rehab....

 

[Si modo]

first search of your source, in the first preview paragraph, says this:

The Daily Express is a right-wing, British tabloid newspaper

Food for thought.

Still, back in 2007, the IPCC was caught with their pants around their ankles. It still hasn't really made it to the mainstream media other than a casual mention.

 

[froggy]

"THE world’s leading climate change body has been accused of losing credibility after a damning report into its research practices.


A high-level inquiry into the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change found there was “little evidence” for its claims about global warming.

It also said the panel had emphasised the negative impacts of climate change and made “substantive findings” based.

The review by the InterAcademy Council (IAC) was launched after the IPCC’s hugely embarrassing 2007 benchmark climate change report, which contained exaggerated and false claims that Himalayan glaciers could melt by 2035.

The panel was forced to admit its key claim in support of global warming was lifted from a 1999 magazine article. The report was based on an interview with a little-known Indian scientist who has since said his views were “speculation” and not backed by research.

Independent climate scientist Peter Taylor said last night: “The IPCC’s credibility has been deeply dented and something has to be done...."
Express.co.uk - Home of the Daily and Sunday Express | UK News :: Climate change lies are exposed

And, in a related story, Chris and Old Rocks have entered rehab....

Anyone who can read the bible and understand would tell you its not global warming this was predicted thousands of years ago.

 

[Wry Catcher]

What motivates PC and others like her to post? Is it motivated by some sort of economic interest, a need for attention or something worse, more pathological?
Pointing out the exception, false or misleading, or simply wrong data by one source, proves only that one source fucked up.
Of course we must ask why. But unless a world-wide conspiracy exists, the evidence I've read is strongly convincing something is going on causing extreme climate fluctuations. Yesterday my wife and I spent the day at the California Academy of Sciences in Golden Gate Park.
The evidence of "global warming", or climate change is overwhelming, as are the potential consequences for life as we know it if we stay the course.
Even if the consequences are overstated, and even in the very unlikely event humans are not the actual cause of change, it's clear to me and to the scientific community that human behavior is at the very least the a proximate cause.
Conservatives whine and complain about leaving our children and theirs in debt, yet conservatives have no concen for the safety of the air our progeny breath, the water they drink or the food they consume.

 

[Si modo]

^^^ (Froggy and Wry)

 

[Si modo]

For those without a clue: The IPCC is not a scientific body (although they certainly will allow that perception to exist among members of the AGW club); it is a policy-based organization.

 

[IanC]

first search of your source, in the first preview paragraph, says this:

The Daily Express is a right-wing, British tabloid newspaper

Food for thought.

so G.T. thinks the Himalayan glaciers will melt by 2035?!?

what does the political leanings of a newspaper have to do with the veracity of an IPPC report?

 

[skookerasbil]

For those without a clue: The IPCC is not a scientific body; it is a policy-based organization.

LOL...............OK s0n...............heres the problem: Reality is 95% perception and this is a lead story over on DRUDGE as we speak!!! 30 million people are going to take a gandor over to DRUDGE in the next 24 hours.............yuk..........yuk..........

And Im laughing...........10 years ago I predicted that eventually this whole "man made" global warming crap would fall like a house of cards in slow motion = exactly whats happening. What happened? People learned that the hopelessly duped pushing this garbage were also people who were going to get their pockets lined with lots of $$$.........PAYED FOR BY REGULAR AMERICANS!!! Anti-Capitalist assholes who dont give a rats ass about the environment.

 

[Mad Scientist]

first search of your source, in the first preview paragraph, says this: The Daily Express is a right-wing, British tabloid newspaper. Food for thought.

CNN. Left Wing Media Outlet. Same story. Food For Thought:
U.N. climate body needs 'fundamental reform,' says report - CNN.com

(CNN) -- The United Nations' climate body needs to "fundamentally reform" if it is to prevent a repeat of the error that led to the publishing of a report warning that Himalayan glaciers could melt by 2035, an international committee reported Monday.
In January this year the IPCC said estimates relating to the rate of recession of the Himalayan glaciers in its Fourth Assessment Report were "poorly substantiated" adding that "well-established standards of evidence were not applied properly."

 

[Si modo]

first search of your source, in the first preview paragraph, says this: The Daily Express is a right-wing, British tabloid newspaper. Food for thought.

CNN. Left Wing Media Outlet. Same story. Food For Thought:
U.N. climate body needs 'fundamental reform,' says report - CNN.com

(CNN) -- The United Nations' climate body needs to "fundamentally reform" if it is to prevent a repeat of the error that led to the publishing of a report warning that Himalayan glaciers could melt by 2035, an international committee reported Monday.
In January this year the IPCC said estimates relating to the rate of recession of the Himalayan glaciers in its Fourth Assessment Report were "poorly substantiated" adding that "well-established standards of evidence were not applied properly."

Excellent. CNN carried it. Good.

What bugs me is that a decent investigative reporter could have really made a name for themselves three years ago. It seems that the concerned public does the real investigative work, now. And the press only carries it when it reaches a point wherer it's beyond obvious. What a shame on a once-respectbale profession.

 

[skookerasbil]

What motivates PC and others like her to post? Is it motivated by some sort of economic interest, a need for attention or something worse, more pathological?
Pointing out the exception, false or misleading, or simply wrong data by one source, proves only that one source fucked up.
Of course we must ask why. But unless a world-wide conspiracy exists, the evidence I've read is strongly convincing something is going on causing extreme climate fluctuations. Yesterday my wife and I spent the day at the California Academy of Sciences in Golden Gate Park.
The evidence of "global warming", or climate change is overwhelming, as are the potential consequences for life as we know it if we stay the course.
Even if the consequences are overstated, and even in the very unlikely event humans are not the actual cause of change, it's clear to me and to the scientific community that human behavior is at the very least the a proximate cause.
Conservatives whine and complain about leaving our children and theirs in debt, yet conservatives have no concen for the safety of the air our progeny breath, the water they drink or the food they consume.

Im laughing.................dude, heres the poop. Publically stating youre taking strolls through Golden Gate Park earns you a credibility rating of epIc fAiL..........a huge % of the country views the whole area as a nesting ground for the extreme fringe. Just wanted to point that out..............its just the way it is!!!

Indeed, we non-k00ks are exceedingly motiviated by "economic intersts". I cant afford a fcukking hoax to end up costing me double to pay for my electric bill here in New York...........so you're spot on s0n!!!

 

[Old Rocks]

first search of your source, in the first preview paragraph, says this:

The Daily Express is a right-wing, British tabloid newspaper

Food for thought.

so G.T. thinks the Himalayan glaciers will melt by 2035?!?

what does the political leanings of a newspaper have to do with the veracity of an IPPC report?

That was a typo, for the original report stated by 2350.

The political leanings of the paper have a great deal to do with the way that the study was reported. For what the study stated was that while the report was sound, errors in details left it open for the denialists to state that the whole report was false.

So future reports will have to undergo extreme scrutiny of all details. In the meantime, as the climate gets more dicey, food prices will start to rise, and many of the worlds poor will be at even greater risk. Not in the distant future, but this year.

 

[IanC]

first search of your source, in the first preview paragraph, says this:

The Daily Express is a right-wing, British tabloid newspaper

Food for thought.

so G.T. thinks the Himalayan glaciers will melt by 2035?!?

what does the political leanings of a newspaper have to do with the veracity of an IPPC report?

That was a typo, for the original report stated by 2350.

The political leanings of the paper have a great deal to do with the way that the study was reported. For what the study stated was that while the report was sound, errors in details left it open for the denialists to state that the whole report was false.

So future reports will have to undergo extreme scrutiny of all details. In the meantime, as the climate gets more dicey, food prices will start to rise, and many of the worlds poor will be at even greater risk. Not in the distant future, but this year.

I realize that the stated year was a typo. What excuse do you have for the unsubstantiated report being in the IPCC in the first place? That was not an 'error in detail', that was an addition for alarmist effect from a practically science free source. Would you be upset if the study on global vegetation was put in the next report for alarmist effect, knowing how weak the science is?

Personally I believe the last report got a lot less 'extreme scrutiny' than it deserved. It was supposed to be a report on the latest state of knowledge on climate science, not a colour pamphlet.

 

[Old Rocks]

Hardly unsubstanciated. Have to leave for work now, or I would post from the USGS concerning the retreat of the glaciers worldwide, including those in the Himalayas. There is a link for further data in this article.

Are glaciers growing or retreating?

Are glaciers growing or retreating?
Link to this pageThe skeptic argument...Glaciers are growing

"Reports are coming in from all over the world: for the first time in over 250 years, glaciers in Alaska, Canada, New Zealand, Greenland, and now Norway are growing." (JamulBlog)

What the science says...
While there are isolated cases of growing glaciers, the overwhelming trend in glaciers worldwide is retreat. In fact, the global melt rate has been accelerating since the mid-1970s.

Glaciers respond directly and quickly to atmospheric conditions. As temperatures warm, summer melting increases. However, accumulation of ice in the winter also increases due to more snowfall. Air temperature tends to play the dominant role - there's a strong statistical correlation between air temperature and glacier fluctuations over large distances (Greene 2005). Generally, when air temperatures warm, glaciers recede.

Consequently, because they're so sensitive to changes in temperature, glaciers provide clues about the effects of global warming. Glacier mass balance is measured through a variety of techniques. Direct glaciological methods include ablation stakes, snow pits and snow probing. This data is then combined with independent geodetic surveys, collected and published by the World Glacier Monitoring Service (WGMS).

 

[PoliticalChic]

What motivates PC and others like her to post? Is it motivated by some sort of economic interest, a need for attention or something worse, more pathological?
Pointing out the exception, false or misleading, or simply wrong data by one source, proves only that one source fucked up.
Of course we must ask why. But unless a world-wide conspiracy exists, the evidence I've read is strongly convincing something is going on causing extreme climate fluctuations. Yesterday my wife and I spent the day at the California Academy of Sciences in Golden Gate Park.
The evidence of "global warming", or climate change is overwhelming, as are the potential consequences for life as we know it if we stay the course.
Even if the consequences are overstated, and even in the very unlikely event humans are not the actual cause of change, it's clear to me and to the scientific community that human behavior is at the very least the a proximate cause.
Conservatives whine and complain about leaving our children and theirs in debt, yet conservatives have no concen for the safety of the air our progeny breath, the water they drink or the food they consume.

Oh, Rye Bread...your posts are always so stale

Get that? Stale...bread.....

You never seem to miss a chance to take a swipe at me...could it be love?

 

[PoliticalChic]

first search of your source, in the first preview paragraph, says this:

The Daily Express is a right-wing, British tabloid newspaper

Food for thought.

so G.T. thinks the Himalayan glaciers will melt by 2035?!?

what does the political leanings of a newspaper have to do with the veracity of an IPPC report?

That was a typo, for the original report stated by 2350.

The political leanings of the paper have a great deal to do with the way that the study was reported. For what the study stated was that while the report was sound, errors in details left it open for the denialists to state that the whole report was false.

So future reports will have to undergo extreme scrutiny of all details. In the meantime, as the climate gets more dicey, food prices will start to rise, and many of the worlds poor will be at even greater risk. Not in the distant future, but this year.

Hey, Calc, back from rehab so soon?

They make any headway on tamping down that suicidal urge?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Hardly unsubstanciated. Have to leave for work now, or I would post from the USGS concerning the retreat of the glaciers worldwide, including those in the Himalayas. There is a link for further data in this article.

Are glaciers growing or retreating?

Are glaciers growing or retreating?
Link to this pageThe skeptic argument...Glaciers are growing

"Reports are coming in from all over the world: for the first time in over 250 years, glaciers in Alaska, Canada, New Zealand, Greenland, and now Norway are growing." (JamulBlog)

What the science says...
While there are isolated cases of growing glaciers, the overwhelming trend in glaciers worldwide is retreat. In fact, the global melt rate has been accelerating since the mid-1970s.

Glaciers respond directly and quickly to atmospheric conditions. As temperatures warm, summer melting increases. However, accumulation of ice in the winter also increases due to more snowfall. Air temperature tends to play the dominant role - there's a strong statistical correlation between air temperature and glacier fluctuations over large distances (Greene 2005). Generally, when air temperatures warm, glaciers recede.

Consequently, because they're so sensitive to changes in temperature, glaciers provide clues about the effects of global warming. Glacier mass balance is measured through a variety of techniques. Direct glaciological methods include ablation stakes, snow pits and snow probing. This data is then combined with independent geodetic surveys, collected and published by the World Glacier Monitoring Service (WGMS).

I get it, as each coffin nail comes out, you keep posting...as though it doesn't bother you!

Calc, if you can't count on your friends...
I'm here to help, and here's my (helpful) advice:

The more the global warming scam falls apart...

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[westwall]

first search of your source, in the first preview paragraph, says this:

The Daily Express is a right-wing, British tabloid newspaper

Food for thought.

What about the IAC are THEY a right wing Brit tabloid newspaper? Seems to me it was the National Enquirer that broke the story about Edwards' sordid affair? I believe they were even nominated for a Pulitzer....Is that true? Seems to me if the report is true who cares the source.