Church shooter stopped by armed citizen today? Lives saved by good guy with a gun?

[ColonelAngus]

Church of Christ Shooting: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know | Heavy.com

Bad guy with gun killed by good guy with gun within 20 seconds of first shot fired.

Imagine all the deaths if the parishioners had to hide and wait for LE to respond.

 

[basquebromance]

"So saddened to hear about another church shooting in Texas, this one in White Settlement near Fort Worth. Clearly what we are doing in Texas, what we are doing in this country, when it comes to guns is not working." - Big Bad Beto O'Rourke

Beto, you are a disgusting rat that doesn’t care about the protection of society, because if you did you’d be praising the civilian with a gun that took down the psycho shooter. Share this far and wide and let everyone know that Beto is a turd

 

[MACAULAY]

You've got to be a special kind of sick to go shoot up a church service. We know that.

But, it takes a special kind of sick, PLUS a special kind of stupid, to go shoot up a church service in Texas.

 

[basquebromance]

this is a neo-fascist Trump presidency where wealth inequality coupled with racist violence are slowly killing away America, my friends!

 

[candycorn]

Many of these rampage shootings end with the NRA endorsed gun owner killing himself. Someone being on the scene who is armed is irrelevant

Link???

NRA does not endorse gun owners, you should educate yourself on what the NRA actually does, most is safety and training.

And lobbying for zero gun restrictions too

 

[basquebromance]

Churches
Movie Theaters
Concerts
Malls
Schools
Mosques
Parks
Nightclubs
Office Buildings
Festivals
Stores
Military Bases
Bars
Post Offices
Yoga Studios

Nowhere is safe from the scourge of gun violence in America.

 

[MACAULAY]

this is a neo-fascist Trump presidency where wealth inequality coupled with racist violence are slowly killing away America, my friends!

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What horse shit this is.

 

[basquebromance]

If you own a firearm and carry, GET TRAINING. The guy who gets shot first stood straight up to draw his gun, it cost him his life.

 

[The Purge]

Looks like the shooter was BLACK, at least by this live feed capture!

 

[The Purge]

Churches
Movie Theaters
Concerts
Malls
Schools
Mosques
Parks
Nightclubs
Office Buildings
Festivals
Stores
Military Bases
Bars
Post Offices
Yoga Studios

Nowhere is safe from the scourge of gun violence in America.

No problem if everyone carries... shit happen . Make sure the piece of shit never takes another breath!

 

[The Purge]

I do have to admit, there seems to be some sort of collusion when so many of these shootings have started to roll out....never was this bad before...think swamp has tried to push all these on Trump, instead of where they really belong....

 

[Weatherman2020]

Every mass shooting ends with a common theme - the shooter is confronted by someone with a gun.

 

[harmonica]

Who needs to carry a gun to church? People who know that evil people target good people for murder....

It is being reported that this shooter may have been stopped by armed citizens with their legal guns....saving lives, stopping the killing...

The shooter may have had a rifle, and was stopped by a good guy with a pistol...

BREAKING: Church Shooting Reported In Texas, Armed Churchgoers Appear To Have Stopped It, Reporter Suggests

“It appears that a gunman shot two church members at back of auditorium with a footlong weapon, then a member shot the gunman with a pistol,” Ross wrote. “This is just based on me watching the video again. Screaming afterward in the church. So tragic. Two quick shots at back, then another shot. Then at least three members (I believe) with pistols [walking] toward where the gunman appeared to fall.”

Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events [FBI]

Of all the active shooter events there were 33 at which an armed citizen was present. Of those, Armed Citizens were successful at stopping the Active shooter 75.8% of the time (25 incidents) and were successful in reducing the loss of life in an additional 18.2% (6) of incidents. In only 2 of the 33 incidents (6.1%) was the Armed Citizen(s) not helpful in any way in stopping the active shooter or reducing the loss of life.

Thus the headline of our report that Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events.


In the 2 incidents at which the armed citizen “failed” to stop or slow the active shooter, one is the previously mentioned incident with hunters. The other is an incident in which the CCWer was shot in the back in a Las Vegas Walmart when he failed to identify that there were 2 Active Shooters involved in the attack. He neglected to identify the one that shot him in the back while he was trying to ambush the other perpetrator.

We also decided to look at the breakdown of events that took place in gun free zones and the relative death toll from events in gun free zones vs non-gun-free zones.

Of the 283 incidents in our data pool, we were unable to identify if the event took place in a gun-free zone in a large number (41%) of the events. Most of the events took place at a business, church, home, or other places at which as a rule of law it is not a gun free zone but potentially could have been declared one by the property owner. Without any information in the FBI study or any indication one way or the other from the news reports, we have indicated that event with a question mark.

If you look at all of the Active Shooter events (pie chart on the top) you see that for those which we have the information, almost twice as many took place in gun free zones than not; but realistically the vast majority of those for which we have no information (indicated as ?) are probably NOT gun free zones.

If you isolate just the events at which 8 or more people were killed the data paints a different picture (pie chart on the bottom). In these incidents, 77.8% took place in a gun-free zone suggesting that gun free zones lead to a higher death rate vs active shooter events in general

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One of the final metrics we thought was important to consider is the potential tendency for armed citizens to injure or kill innocent people in their attempt to “save the day.” A common point in political discussions is to point out the lack of training of most armed citizens and the decrease in safety inherent in their presence during violent encounters.

As you can see below, however, at the 33 incidents at which Armed Citizens were present, there were zero situations at which the Armed Citizen injured or killed an innocent person. It never happened.

BREAKING: Man Opens Fire At Oklahoma Walmart, Confronted By Armed Citizen, Report Says

Two people were killed at a Walmart in Oklahoma by a man who opened fire in the parking lot on Monday before turning the weapon on himself after an armed citizen confronted him.
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The assailant, who has not yet been identified, shot and killed a man and a woman in the parking lot and when he was “confronted by an armed citizen, he then turned the gun on himself,” The Daily Mail reported.

for every SD use, there are dozens of murders

 

[Weatherman2020]

Who needs to carry a gun to church? People who know that evil people target good people for murder....

It is being reported that this shooter may have been stopped by armed citizens with their legal guns....saving lives, stopping the killing...

The shooter may have had a rifle, and was stopped by a good guy with a pistol...

BREAKING: Church Shooting Reported In Texas, Armed Churchgoers Appear To Have Stopped It, Reporter Suggests

“It appears that a gunman shot two church members at back of auditorium with a footlong weapon, then a member shot the gunman with a pistol,” Ross wrote. “This is just based on me watching the video again. Screaming afterward in the church. So tragic. Two quick shots at back, then another shot. Then at least three members (I believe) with pistols [walking] toward where the gunman appeared to fall.”

Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events [FBI]

Of all the active shooter events there were 33 at which an armed citizen was present. Of those, Armed Citizens were successful at stopping the Active shooter 75.8% of the time (25 incidents) and were successful in reducing the loss of life in an additional 18.2% (6) of incidents. In only 2 of the 33 incidents (6.1%) was the Armed Citizen(s) not helpful in any way in stopping the active shooter or reducing the loss of life.

Thus the headline of our report that Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events.


In the 2 incidents at which the armed citizen “failed” to stop or slow the active shooter, one is the previously mentioned incident with hunters. The other is an incident in which the CCWer was shot in the back in a Las Vegas Walmart when he failed to identify that there were 2 Active Shooters involved in the attack. He neglected to identify the one that shot him in the back while he was trying to ambush the other perpetrator.

We also decided to look at the breakdown of events that took place in gun free zones and the relative death toll from events in gun free zones vs non-gun-free zones.

Of the 283 incidents in our data pool, we were unable to identify if the event took place in a gun-free zone in a large number (41%) of the events. Most of the events took place at a business, church, home, or other places at which as a rule of law it is not a gun free zone but potentially could have been declared one by the property owner. Without any information in the FBI study or any indication one way or the other from the news reports, we have indicated that event with a question mark.

If you look at all of the Active Shooter events (pie chart on the top) you see that for those which we have the information, almost twice as many took place in gun free zones than not; but realistically the vast majority of those for which we have no information (indicated as ?) are probably NOT gun free zones.

If you isolate just the events at which 8 or more people were killed the data paints a different picture (pie chart on the bottom). In these incidents, 77.8% took place in a gun-free zone suggesting that gun free zones lead to a higher death rate vs active shooter events in general

=====

One of the final metrics we thought was important to consider is the potential tendency for armed citizens to injure or kill innocent people in their attempt to “save the day.” A common point in political discussions is to point out the lack of training of most armed citizens and the decrease in safety inherent in their presence during violent encounters.

As you can see below, however, at the 33 incidents at which Armed Citizens were present, there were zero situations at which the Armed Citizen injured or killed an innocent person. It never happened.

BREAKING: Man Opens Fire At Oklahoma Walmart, Confronted By Armed Citizen, Report Says

Two people were killed at a Walmart in Oklahoma by a man who opened fire in the parking lot on Monday before turning the weapon on himself after an armed citizen confronted him.
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The assailant, who has not yet been identified, shot and killed a man and a woman in the parking lot and when he was “confronted by an armed citizen, he then turned the gun on himself,” The Daily Mail reported.

for every SD use, there are dozens of murders

Then stop releasing murderers from prison.

 

[Nostra]

Hey Dimwingers, tell us again how good guys carrying guns makes no difference.

Texas gunman opens fire during church service, shoots 2 people before being fatally shot by 'heroic' parishioners, police say

 

[The Purge]

Closest 'sequence' of photos I could get.....men against the wall are preparing to give out communion plates...he's on the far right gun concealed under his coat...takes aim at the one or two of those next to him, the "hero' takes him down....

 

[miketx]

 

[basquebromance]

The shooter who killed innocent folks belongs in the trash, never to be heard from again!

 

[basquebromance]

This is why the second amendment is so important. Literally saved lives today. Imagine what would have happened if the armed person hadn’t been there.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Closest 'sequence' of photos I could get.....men against the wall are preparing to give out communion plates...he's on the far right gun concealed under his coat...takes aim at the one or two of those next to him, the "hero' takes him down....

At least 5 people pulled out guns when the shooting started. The first victim was reaching for his.