Christopher Waddell on climate change

[catatomic]

No, idiot, I am the cause of that...

already ad hominems

 

[ReinyDays]

You can have a natural gas backup

What do you do when the natural gas runs out? ...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You can have a natural gas backup

To kill the planet?

Climate change is an existential threat to our planet, and we need to do everything we can to protect it for future generations. New York is once again leading the nation in its response to climate change with this new forward-thinking commitment to a greener future.

Here’s how:

• Starting in 2026, most new construction of buildings in New York that are seven stories or shorter must be built to use electric heat and appliances. This will also apply to larger commercial buildings with 100,000 square feet or more of conditioned floor area (bigger businesses).
• Taller residential buildings and smaller commercial buildings will be rolled into the program in 2029.

All Electric Buildings | New York State Assembly

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[ReinyDays]

To kill the planet?

Climate change is an existential threat to our planet, and we need to do everything we can to protect it for future generations. New York is once again leading the nation in its response to climate change with this new forward-thinking commitment to a greener future.

Here’s how:

• Starting in 2026, most new construction of buildings in New York that are seven stories or shorter must be built to use electric heat and appliances. This will also apply to larger commercial buildings with 100,000 square feet or more of conditioned floor area (bigger businesses).
• Taller residential buildings and smaller commercial buildings will be rolled into the program in 2029.

All Electric Buildings | New York State Assembly

News and Information from the New York State Assembly

nyassembly.gov

If this is what New Yorkers want ... who are we to say no? ...

 

[Mushroom]

Starting in 2026, most new construction of buildings in New York that are seven stories or shorter must be built to use electric heat and appliances. This will also apply to larger commercial buildings with 100,000 square feet or more of conditioned floor area (bigger businesses).

Here is the funny thing, a significant amount of that city along with others were at one time heated very efficiently. By a large plant in a central location that provided heat to a large area.

Steam.

And most of that steam was actually produced by power plants, originally coal then later on natural gas. That generated steam for producing power, then used the waste heat to generate steam for heating. Actually a very efficient system, that was at one time used nation wide.

It was also commonly seen on many military bases into the 1980s and early 1990s. Camp Lejeune had a central power and steam plant, and most of the base was heated by steam. Mare Island was the same way, a central power and steam plant that provided power and heat to most of the island.

If the people who ran New York really cared about being "green", they would demand new construction use steam for power, not electricity. Because the steam is literally produced as a waste product of power generation.

 

[catatomic]

We have enough and to spare, but not to live lavishly

 

[ReinyDays]

Here is the funny thing, a significant amount of that city along with others were at one time heated very efficiently. By a large plant in a central location that provided heat to a large area.

Steam.

And most of that steam was actually produced by power plants, originally coal then later on natural gas. That generated steam for producing power, then used the waste heat to generate steam for heating. Actually a very efficient system, that was at one time used nation wide.

It was also commonly seen on many military bases into the 1980s and early 1990s. Camp Lejeune had a central power and steam plant, and most of the base was heated by steam. Mare Island was the same way, a central power and steam plant that provided power and heat to most of the island.

If the people who ran New York really cared about being "green", they would demand new construction use steam for power, not electricity. Because the steam is literally produced as a waste product of power generation.

Might be kinda of difficult when so many power plants feeding New York City are located far away ... it's still better to burn the natural gas where it's produced, like North Dakota, then move the electricity to New York with cabling ...

We can't really move steam very far ... the example in New York City is only Manhattan, not any of the other four boroughs ... nor suburbia and all the bedroom communities in Connecticut and New Jersey ... because if temperature drops below 200ºF in the tube, we're going to have a mess ...

Mare Island? ... New York City is three times the size of the entire Bay Area ... not including suburbia and the bedroom communities in Connecticut and New Jersey ... we need state-level solutions, and steam can't heat an entire state ...

Burn the gas at the well head and communicate the electricity to the end-user ... safest ...

Gas explodes ...