Christian Bible More ‘Bloodthirsty’ than Quran

[American_Jihad]

I know you thought I flipped out lol...
Latest Media Hype: Christian Bible More ‘Bloodthirsty’ than Quran
Debunking a flawed study of the Islamic and Christian texts.
February 18, 2016
Raymond Ibrahim

A new data-based study published on Yahoo News, Huffington Post, and many other media, purports to have proven that the Bible—including the New Testament—is more violent than the Quran.

From Tom McKay’s article about the study: “Fifty-eight percent of Americans have an unfavorable opinion of Islam” thanks to a “laundry list of misinformation about the faith's holy text, the Quran.” He continues:

But a recent project by data analyst and research marketer Tom Anderson turns one common misconception on its head: that the Quran is more consumed by blood thirst than the Christian Bible.… Of the three books [Old Testament, New Testament, Quran], the project found, the Old Testament is the most violent, with approximately 5.3% of the text referring to “destruction and killing” — the Quran clocked in at just 2.1%, with the New Testament slightly higher at 2.8%…. According to Anderson, the findings challenge the popular notion among Westerners that Muslims subscribe to a particularly violent faith. Indeed, he concluded, “of the three texts, the content in the Old Testament appears to be the most violent.”

So this study proves what Islam’s apologists have long claimed: that the Bible contains more violence and bloodshed than the Quran. Even so, the intelligence and/or sincerity of anyone—including supposed scholars and “thinkers”—who cite this fact as proof that the Quran cannot incite more violence than the Bible must be highly doubted.

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On the other hand, the Quran uses open ended language to call on believers to commit acts of violence against non-Muslims. (See “Are Judaism and Christianity as Violent as Islam?” for my most comprehensive and documented treatment of this tiresome apologia.)

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Due to its many shortcomings, even Anderson admits that his “analysis is superficial and the findings are by no means intended to be conclusive.” So why are several media outlets highlighting the conclusion of a study which readily admits it does not prove what its champions claim?

Because the politically correct conclusion—that Islam cannot be any worse than Judaism and Christianity—is all that matters here, gaping holes in methodology be damned.

Latest Media Hype: Christian Bible More ‘Bloodthirsty’ than Quran

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[tinydancer]

What's hysterical about this is if the Bible is so much more violent than the Quran why on earth aren't we running around beheading people, throwing gays off of buildings, writing advisory handbooks with guide lines on how to rape your captive?



That's what the idiots who keep throwing this shit out there really don't have a grasp on.

 

[American_Jihad]

What's hysterical about this is if the Bible is so much more violent than the Quran why on earth aren't we running around beheading people, throwing gays off of buildings, writing advisory handbooks with guide lines on how to rape your captive?



That's what the idiots who keep throwing this shit out there really don't have a grasp on.

You know how liberals want to change everything, history, religion, science, you name it they want to change things to support their goofy beliefs...

 

[Dhara]

So you think Christianity is an inherently superior religion to Islam...yes?

 

[TheOldSchool]

When your defense of your religion is hey, we're not as bloodthirsty as that other religion... it might be time to reasses your values.

 

[tinydancer]

When your defense of your religion is hey, we're not as bloodthirsty as that other religion... it might be time to reasses your values.

When one has to go back to the Crusades to try to find some moral equivalency to radical Islam of today in the here and now, it really is time to give one's head a shake.

 

[emilynghiem]

So you think Christianity is an inherently superior religion to Islam...yes?

It's not a matter of superiority.
The issue is God's laws including all people and tribes universally,
vs. man's laws and ways excluding one group or another because humans are biased and not perfect. The good use of any religious laws or systems is to help reconcile the human level of free will and reason with the higher collective level that God and God's laws represent.

True Islamic teachings and practice INCLUDE the Jewish Torah and Christian Scriptures in the Bible (all the laws and prophets including the meaning of Jesus as fulfilling laws of justice and peace for all humanity).

I find that the true teachings in any religion or system or laws
INCLUDE and accommodate the free, equal and true exercise of any other system.

Only if people under a system CONTRADICT THEMSELVES does it cause a conflict
with other systems. Ideally if we resolve all conflicts, then all people of all groups
can get along, regardless if our beliefs never change.

 

[irosie91]

When your defense of your religion is hey, we're not as bloodthirsty as that other religion... it might be time to reasses your values.

why? you do not consider "bloodthirsty" a factor?

 

[irosie91]

What's hysterical about this is if the Bible is so much more violent than the Quran why on earth aren't we running around beheading people, throwing gays off of buildings, writing advisory handbooks with guide lines on how to rape your captive?



That's what the idiots who keep throwing this shit out there really don't have a grasp on.

You know how liberals want to change everything, history, religion, science, you name it they want to change things to support their goofy beliefs...

stop blaming "liberals" ----it is silly. As to analysis of the bible vs koran----based on the COUNT UP OF VIOLENT EVENTS----------anyone who fell for that shit ---EVER!!!! will continue to be stupid ---FOREVER

 

[Penelope]

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When your defense of your religion is hey, we're not as bloodthirsty as that other religion... it might be time to reasses your values.

When one has to go back to the Crusades to try to find some moral equivalency to radical Islam of today in the here and now, it really is time to give one's head a shake.

Actually KKK and JDL, and Israel, but they use bullets.

 

[irosie91]

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When your defense of your religion is hey, we're not as bloodthirsty as that other religion... it might be time to reasses your values.

When one has to go back to the Crusades to try to find some moral equivalency to radical Islam of today in the here and now, it really is time to give one's head a shake.

Actually KKK and JDL, and Israel, but they use bullets.

one need not go all the way back to the CRUSADES to find the perversion
mediated by the catholic church--------in fact the church brought its filth even
to "the new world"--------both north and south America and Penelope dances
on the dead bodies of hundreds of thousands of infants. I was impressed that
Frances managed a limp wristed apology to the people of South America. ----
very limp wristed and very inadequate

 

[irosie91]

So you think Christianity is an inherently superior religion to Islam...yes?

It's not a matter of superiority.
The issue is God's laws including all people and tribes universally,
vs. man's laws and ways excluding one group or another because humans are biased and not perfect. The good use of any religious laws or systems is to help reconcile the human level of free will and reason with the higher collective level that God and God's laws represent.

True Islamic teachings and practice INCLUDE the Jewish Torah and Christian Scriptures in the Bible (all the laws and prophets including the meaning of Jesus as fulfilling laws of justice and peace for all humanity).

I find that the true teachings in any religion or system or laws
INCLUDE and accommodate the free, equal and true exercise of any other system.

Only if people under a system CONTRADICT THEMSELVES does it cause a conflict
with other systems. Ideally if we resolve all conflicts, then all people of all groups
can get along, regardless if our beliefs never change.

Emily----you are describing a TOTALITARIAN IDEOLOGY-----at the base of
every GENOICIDE in human history are TOTALITARIAN IDEOLOGIES. Islam
has been responsible for genocides in excess of 100s of millions--------as has
TOTALITARIAN INTERPRETATIONS of Christianity. Fret not------the basis
for totalitarian ideologies goes all the way back to the greeks (an may have
even infected Mayan culture

 

[Penelope]

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When your defense of your religion is hey, we're not as bloodthirsty as that other religion... it might be time to reasses your values.

When one has to go back to the Crusades to try to find some moral equivalency to radical Islam of today in the here and now, it really is time to give one's head a shake.

Actually KKK and JDL, and Israel, but they use bullets.

one need not go all the way back to the CRUSADES to find the perversion
mediated by the catholic church--------in fact the church brought its filth even
to "the new world"--------both north and south America and Penelope dances
on the dead bodies of hundreds of thousands of infants. I was impressed that
Frances managed a limp wristed apology to the people of South America. ----
very limp wristed and very inadequate

This section became known as Yevsektsia (alternative spelling: Yevsektsiya — the acronym of the department name in Russian) and was run by Jews.

These Jewish communists were incredibly ruthless in stamping out any type of religious activity by fellow Jews. They killed rabbis, closed the yeshivos and synagogues, banned all religious practices, and enforced it by getting friends to turn in neighbors, children to turn in parents and send them to Siberia for observing the religion. It was the Yevsektsia more than anything else that destroyed the Jewish community in Russia. (by Rabbi Berel Wein)

http://www.jewishhistory.org/jewish-europe-between-the-wars/

http://www.jewishdestiny.com/about/team-destiny/

 

[irosie91]

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When your defense of your religion is hey, we're not as bloodthirsty as that other religion... it might be time to reasses your values.

When one has to go back to the Crusades to try to find some moral equivalency to radical Islam of today in the here and now, it really is time to give one's head a shake.

Actually KKK and JDL, and Israel, but they use bullets.

one need not go all the way back to the CRUSADES to find the perversion
mediated by the catholic church--------in fact the church brought its filth even
to "the new world"--------both north and south America and Penelope dances
on the dead bodies of hundreds of thousands of infants. I was impressed that
Frances managed a limp wristed apology to the people of South America. ----
very limp wristed and very inadequate

This section became known as Yevsektsia (alternative spelling: Yevsektsiya — the acronym of the department name in Russian) and was run by Jews.

These Jewish communists were incredibly ruthless in stamping out any type of religious activity by fellow Jews. They killed rabbis, closed the yeshivos and synagogues, banned all religious practices, and enforced it by getting friends to turn in neighbors, children to turn in parents and send them to Siberia for observing the religion. It was the Yevsektsia more than anything else that destroyed the Jewish community in Russia. (by Rabbi Berel Wein)

http://www.jewishhistory.org/jewish-europe-between-the-wars/

http://www.jewishdestiny.com/about/team-destiny/

Penelope is right-----there were a few jews in Russia WHO BOUGHT INTO THE
TOTALITARIAN COMMUNIST PARTY-LINE-----and they were just as bloodthirsty as the overwhelming MAJORTY who were spawned by the Eastern Orthodox and Catholic churches.

 

[Indeependent]

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When your defense of your religion is hey, we're not as bloodthirsty as that other religion... it might be time to reasses your values.

When one has to go back to the Crusades to try to find some moral equivalency to radical Islam of today in the here and now, it really is time to give one's head a shake.

Actually KKK and JDL, and Israel, but they use bullets.

one need not go all the way back to the CRUSADES to find the perversion
mediated by the catholic church--------in fact the church brought its filth even
to "the new world"--------both north and south America and Penelope dances
on the dead bodies of hundreds of thousands of infants. I was impressed that
Frances managed a limp wristed apology to the people of South America. ----
very limp wristed and very inadequate

This section became known as Yevsektsia (alternative spelling: Yevsektsiya — the acronym of the department name in Russian) and was run by Jews.

These Jewish communists were incredibly ruthless in stamping out any type of religious activity by fellow Jews. They killed rabbis, closed the yeshivos and synagogues, banned all religious practices, and enforced it by getting friends to turn in neighbors, children to turn in parents and send them to Siberia for observing the religion. It was the Yevsektsia more than anything else that destroyed the Jewish community in Russia. (by Rabbi Berel Wein)

http://www.jewishhistory.org/jewish-europe-between-the-wars/

http://www.jewishdestiny.com/about/team-destiny/

And that's why there should be a movement to make all non-Orthodox Jews Orthodox.

 

[Penelope]

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When your defense of your religion is hey, we're not as bloodthirsty as that other religion... it might be time to reasses your values.

When one has to go back to the Crusades to try to find some moral equivalency to radical Islam of today in the here and now, it really is time to give one's head a shake.

Actually KKK and JDL, and Israel, but they use bullets.

one need not go all the way back to the CRUSADES to find the perversion
mediated by the catholic church--------in fact the church brought its filth even
to "the new world"--------both north and south America and Penelope dances
on the dead bodies of hundreds of thousands of infants. I was impressed that
Frances managed a limp wristed apology to the people of South America. ----
very limp wristed and very inadequate

This section became known as Yevsektsia (alternative spelling: Yevsektsiya — the acronym of the department name in Russian) and was run by Jews.

These Jewish communists were incredibly ruthless in stamping out any type of religious activity by fellow Jews. They killed rabbis, closed the yeshivos and synagogues, banned all religious practices, and enforced it by getting friends to turn in neighbors, children to turn in parents and send them to Siberia for observing the religion. It was the Yevsektsia more than anything else that destroyed the Jewish community in Russia. (by Rabbi Berel Wein)

http://www.jewishhistory.org/jewish-europe-between-the-wars/

http://www.jewishdestiny.com/about/team-destiny/

And that's why there should be a movement to make all non-Orthodox Jews Orthodox.

They will never convert to Orthodox Judaism. More and more are becoming secular. Even in Israel the secular government finds the Orthodox Jews a PIA.

 

[Indeependent]

.

When one has to go back to the Crusades to try to find some moral equivalency to radical Islam of today in the here and now, it really is time to give one's head a shake.

Actually KKK and JDL, and Israel, but they use bullets.

one need not go all the way back to the CRUSADES to find the perversion
mediated by the catholic church--------in fact the church brought its filth even
to "the new world"--------both north and south America and Penelope dances
on the dead bodies of hundreds of thousands of infants. I was impressed that
Frances managed a limp wristed apology to the people of South America. ----
very limp wristed and very inadequate

This section became known as Yevsektsia (alternative spelling: Yevsektsiya — the acronym of the department name in Russian) and was run by Jews.

These Jewish communists were incredibly ruthless in stamping out any type of religious activity by fellow Jews. They killed rabbis, closed the yeshivos and synagogues, banned all religious practices, and enforced it by getting friends to turn in neighbors, children to turn in parents and send them to Siberia for observing the religion. It was the Yevsektsia more than anything else that destroyed the Jewish community in Russia. (by Rabbi Berel Wein)

http://www.jewishhistory.org/jewish-europe-between-the-wars/

http://www.jewishdestiny.com/about/team-destiny/

And that's why there should be a movement to make all non-Orthodox Jews Orthodox.

They will never convert to Orthodox Judaism. More and more are becoming secular. Even in Israel the secular government finds the Orthodox Jews a PIA.

The assimilated Jew becomes ultra Liberal and that does not bode well for our future.

 

[MarathonMike]

What a tool, I hope he at least gets a White House visit for that stunning "study".

 

[Coyote]

So you think Christianity is an inherently superior religion to Islam...yes?

The source is Frontpage Mag - hardly unbiased. I'm pretty skeptical of it. For example, it ignores the fact that unlike the Bible, the Koran includes a lot of rules and mitigating factors for violence.

In the end - both texts were written in era's and by cultures that were pretty darn violent because that was the way of the world. Any difference is negligable and either text can certainly be used to promote extremist violence if the followers chose to interpret it that way.

I think this article offers a measured look at it than either the OP or the study it references: Is The Bible More Violent Than The Quran?

 

[irosie91]

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When one has to go back to the Crusades to try to find some moral equivalency to radical Islam of today in the here and now, it really is time to give one's head a shake.

Actually KKK and JDL, and Israel, but they use bullets.

one need not go all the way back to the CRUSADES to find the perversion
mediated by the catholic church--------in fact the church brought its filth even
to "the new world"--------both north and south America and Penelope dances
on the dead bodies of hundreds of thousands of infants. I was impressed that
Frances managed a limp wristed apology to the people of South America. ----
very limp wristed and very inadequate

This section became known as Yevsektsia (alternative spelling: Yevsektsiya — the acronym of the department name in Russian) and was run by Jews.

These Jewish communists were incredibly ruthless in stamping out any type of religious activity by fellow Jews. They killed rabbis, closed the yeshivos and synagogues, banned all religious practices, and enforced it by getting friends to turn in neighbors, children to turn in parents and send them to Siberia for observing the religion. It was the Yevsektsia more than anything else that destroyed the Jewish community in Russia. (by Rabbi Berel Wein)

http://www.jewishhistory.org/jewish-europe-between-the-wars/

http://www.jewishdestiny.com/about/team-destiny/

And that's why there should be a movement to make all non-Orthodox Jews Orthodox.

They will never convert to Orthodox Judaism. More and more are becoming secular. Even in Israel the secular government finds the Orthodox Jews a PIA.

For those confused by the writings of the PIA-PENELOPE------she never met a jew----never met an Israeli, and so far, on this messageboard ---has evinced as her only academic achievement -----some familiarity with the islamo Nazi propaganda
that was generated by Nazi war criminals living in Syria and Egypt from 1945 to-----just a few years ago. In fact------------I would estimate that about half of the Israeli jews are ---WHAT WE JEWS IN THE USA CALL "orthodox"------generally
keep kosher and---generally Sabbath observing ----------even my own relatives by
marriage over there--------In Israel they would be called -----either "secular" or just
"traditionalist" -----------She is remarkably ignorant about that which she DISCUSSES with 'confidence' The troublesome jews-----are those called
NATUREI KARTA or HAREDI-------the "anti Zionist" jews----numbering world wide----about ----a few score thousand. Some in the USA---called various forms of
"chassidim" --------that is SOME of the various forms of chassidim