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Doesn't Peter mean rock?
Indeed.........just as the Christ defined Peter's birth name by partiarch. Simmon Bar Jonha means Son of (Matt. 16:17) Jesus is calling Peter.......SIMON his given partiarchal name. Jesus never defines Peter as a fondation stone in Matthew 16. In fact, Peter denied Jesus 3 times before the cock crowed......Some POPE....no? The RCC preaches as truth that POPES are "infallible".

The scriptures are clear........Peter was not the foundation stone of the Kingdom of God, Christ was the stone upon which the kingdom/church was constructed....the truth that Jesus was the Messiah of prophecy. The Scriptures, all written by the same inspriation of the Holy Spirit of Truth do not contradict.....one revelation from another....All are inspired of God, the Greek literally means GOD BREATHED (2 Tim. 3:16).......and we are commanded to study those scriptures in order to rightly divide the truth. (2 Tim. 2:15).

The scriptures reveal, with no ambiguity whatsoever just who the foundation stone, the chief cornerstone was and is, thus to interpret Matthew 16 by taking sentences away from their contexual subject matter, claiming Peter is that foundation stone......contradicts serveral well defined passages of scripture. We find in the O.T. scriptures that the Messiah would be a Stone, "a stumbling block" to the nation of Biblical Israe (Isa. 8:13-15). New Testament scriptures confirm that it was Jesus that Isaiah was speaking of. "They (Israel) have stumbled over the stumbling stone, as it is written (in the O.T.), Behold I am laying in Zion (Jerusalem) a stone of stumbling.............." -- Romans 9:32-33 Paul also makes reference to Isaiah 28:16 in defining Jesus as "Yahweh" INCARNATE.

Peter defines Jesus as a "living stone" rejected by Israel's leadership (1 Peter 4:2-8). Even Jesus defines Himself as THE STONE......the chief cornerstone (Matthew 21:42-44). Why would Jesus refer to Peter as the chief building block in one passage and Himself as that stone in the same Gospel Book?

The Apostle makes it clear. "For no other foundation (this leaves Peter out as the foundation Rock) can anyone lay than which is laid, which is Jesus Christ." -- 1 Cor. 3:11. "For they drank of the Spiritual Rock that followed them, AND THAT ROCK WAS CHRIST." -- 1 Cor. 10:4
 
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You omitted the most important passage when speaking about "division". There is only "One" real church that Christ constructed as the chief cornerstone, one kingdom of God, kingdom of heaven, one nation in Christ's kingdom (Matthew 16:18), and the gates of hell shall not overpower it.........there are not countless doctrines instructed by the Christ and His Apostles through the power of the Holy Spirit of God.......there is but ONE, "There is One body, and One Spirit, even as you are called in One hope of your calling, One Lord, One Faith, One baptism, One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all......." -- Eph. 4:4-6

Consider what the Christ declared in Matthew 16. The church/kingdom would belong to Christ, as both words are used synonmously in the same verse, in one breath He calls it a kingdom in the next His church. It is His church, He has the right to direct its affiars and requirements, He is its head, ITS KING.

It is not a democracy ruled by the will of the people within the kingdom, its a monarachy, with the word of its King being Law. Christ was given all authority on earth and in heaven by God the Father (Matthew 28:18) and whatever is bound (delcared) on earth by the Christ becomes law on earth and in heaven (Matthew 16:19)

"God put all things in subjection under His (Christ's) feet and gave Him as head over all things to the church, which is His body, the fullness of Him who fills all in all." -- Eph. 1:22-23 He is further directly identified as its (the church,nation, kingdom) King, He is called the King of Kings. (1 Tim. 6:15)

Christ's claim as king of His kingdom is singular in nature......"MY CHURCH" , He did not say He would build a church or the church of your choice or over 500 different churches/kingdoms. There is but ONE.

And its doctrine is found only one place The word of God, as faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word (Romans 10:17). That doctrine is based upon truth..........where is that truth found? In the Word of God (Thy word is truth and we must worship in spirit and truth (John 17:17)

How do we become wise in God's truth? We study the word. Study to show yourself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not be ashamed...........study the word to lead you into rightesouness (2 Tim. 2:15) As all scripture is inspired of God and is good for Doctrine and teaching/insturction in righteousnes (2 Tim 3:16-17)

You are never to simply take the word of anyone for doctrine...........search the scriptures to see if these things are based upon truth (Acts 17:11). We as Christians are tasked to study so that we might RIGHTLY DIVIDE THE WORD OF TRUTH, meaning consider the entirety of anyone's doctrine, test it for truth by applying the revealtions of God found in the Word of God.

Its why the protestants ran from Catholicism to begin with. Their own translating proves they are false religion, no branch ever fixed it because of errors translated in that contradict Jesus.
 
Its why the protestants ran from Catholicism to begin with. Their own translating proves they are false religion, no branch ever fixed it because of errors translated in that contradict Jesus.

No one can hide from the actual content of the Holy Bible.....anymore than you can run from HISTORY ACTUAL.

Do you never wonder why they are incapable of defending their Cult by presenting the actual content of the Holy Bible by Book, Chapter and Verse.......leaving them with the only recourse...........Ad Hominem Bullshit accusations such as just presented along this thread void of any defense found in the Holy Bible. :abgg2q.jpg: The RCC is a JOKE.......nothing more than a religious arm of Italian organized crime.


No the reason true Christians "protested" the RCC is due to the fact that before the advent of the printing press........the clergy of the RCC was the only one's allowed access to the actual content of the Holy Scriptures. It was a crime for any lay person to even own a copy of the Holy Scriptures.........and then the Vatican allowed only the dead language of Latin to be used which required years of education to even comprehend.

The doctrine promoted by the RCC gave the world such noble events as the Spanish Inqusitions and the Crusades where the RCC attempted to take the middle east by military force. I devy anyone or any member of the cult known as the Universal Church...i.e, the Roman Catholic church to be identified in the authorized N.T. canon.......or present any passage of scriptures that endorsed actions such as the Inquistions (human torture) or Sword Point conquest as authorized by the RCC with the Crusades. Rome attempted to rule the world through its false doctrine that can't be found in the Holy Bible........there are no Popes appointed by men in the Bible, there is no authorization for the cleargy to be separated from the laity (members of the church) by dressing up in special garbs like a peacock....there is no authorization for any minister to remain celebate (the reason the RCC has had to pay millions of dollars for the RAPES of young boys).........

When the Bible was finally translated from the dead language used by the RCC into English.......the people were shocked at the doctrine they had been forced to accept by Force, Imprisonment, and even death......Rome attempted to use the chruch to do what Rome's military force was failing to do......control the wealth and power of Western Civilation, all controlled from the Vitican.

Its called the Protestant movement for a reason. The people simply started using the actual content of the Holy Bible to define righteous doctrine. This movement resulted in the eventual founding of the United States of American when the people of Europe grew tired of living under the thumb of Roman Rule and made a Exodus in order to find Religious Freedom away from the Tyrants that made up the RCC. This is exactly the reason the first and second amendments exist in the US Constiution.......to make sure the government could not force any relgious doctrine upon the free peoples of the infant United States.....the Bill of Rights guarantees Freedom Of Religion, Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Assembly, Freedom of the Press which never existed in Europe until THE PEOPLE rebelled after they had mass access to copies of the Holy Bible in English, thanks to the invention of the printing press.
 
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12 yr old boy SHOT DEAD in front of your eyes
Updated 9.48 p.m., 3rd Oct 2000

http://www.themodernreligion.com/jihad/sniper.html
Gaza girl said killed
By Amos Harel and Nir Hasson, Haaretz Correspondents,
and Haaretz Service
IDF troops shot and killed an 8-year-old Palestinian girl who was on her way to school in a Gaza Strip refugee camp
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Photos of a 12 year old palestinian boy being shot by Israeli soldiers and the ambulance driver who tried to save him also being shot and killed.
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Three-year-old Rawan Abu Zeid, who took bullets in the neck and dead while buying candy with her friends.
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12-year old Hoda Darwish was hit in the head by a bullet fired Two 10 year-old school children were shot in the al-Omaria school run by UNRWA in Rafah, when an Israeli tank fired into their classroom.
Bullets fired from the tank flew through the classroom window
, hitting Mahmoud Hamad in the neck and Hisham al Habil in the head. The boys had not even been sitting by the windows but in the middle of the room.
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An eight-year-old Palestinian girl shot dead by Israeli troops in the central Gaza Strip was killed while showing off her new school uniform to friends
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Already did so.
I knew I knew you from somewhere but could not find where until now------
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Here's looking at you
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It could have come from here--
idf sniper - Google Search

Or here.,,,
Israeli sniper kills 16-year-old Palestinian boy in Jenin

Who knows, the number of Palestinian children being shot by IDF snipers goes on and on
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And, do you care about the number of Israeli children, men and women are being killed by rockets from the Gaza Strip by fanatical Islamic terrorists, Hamas? Or, suicide bombers that blow up weddings and other gatherings of Jews? As long as Hamas is in charge of Palestinian Gaza and is funded by Iran, Israeli army will continue to defend their country and bullets will fly. The unfortunate are the innocent little ones, not the teenagers fighting for Hamas. Accept Israel as a nation and stop the attacks and Israel will stop shooting. Just like they have with all the other Islamic neighbors. None of the other Muslim countries are waring with Israel and the innocent aren't dying in those countries. This isn't rocket science.
 
No one can hide from the actual content of the Holy Bible.....anymore than you can run from HISTORY ACTUAL.

Do you never wonder why they are incapable of defending their Cult by presenting the actual content of the Holy Bible by Book, Chapter and Verse.......leaving them with the only recourse...........Ad Hominem Bullshit accusations such as just presented along this thread void of any defense found in the Holy Bible. :abgg2q.jpg: The RCC is a JOKE.......nothing more than a religious arm of Italian organized crime.


No the reason true Christians "protested" the RCC is due to the fact that before the advent of the printing press........the clergy of the RCC was the only one's allowed access to the actual content of the Holy Scriptures. It was a crime for any lay person to even own a copy of the Holy Scriptures.........and then the Vatican allowed only the dead language of Latin to be used which required years of education to even comprehend.

The doctrine promoted by the RCC gave the world such noble events as the Spanish Inqusitions and the Crusades where the RCC attempted to take the middle east by military force. I devy anyone or any member of the cult known as the Universal Church...i.e, the Roman Catholic church to be identified in the authorized N.T. canon.......or present any passage of scriptures that endorsed actions such as the Inquistions (human torture) or Sword Point conquest as authorized by the RCC with the Crusades. Rome attempted to rule the world through its false doctrine that can't be found in the Holy Bible........there are no Popes appointed by men in the Bible, there is no authorization for the cleargy to be separated from the laity (members of the church) by dressing up in special garbs like a peacock....there is no authorization for any minister to remain celebate (the reason the RCC has had to pay millions of dollars for the RAPES of young boys).........

When the Bible was finally translated from the dead language used by the RCC into English.......the people were shocked at the doctrine they had been forced to accept by Force, Imprisonment, and even death......Rome attempted to use the chruch to do what Rome's military force was failing to do......control the wealth and power of Western Civilation, all controlled from the Vitican.

Its called the Protestant movement for a reason. The people simply started using the actual content of the Holy Bible to define righteous doctrine. This movement resulted in the eventual founding of the United States of American when the people of Europe grew tired of living under the thumb of Roman Rule and made a Exodus in order to find Religious Freedom away from the Tyrants that made up the RCC. This is exactly the reason the first and second amendments exist in the US Constiution.......to make sure the government could not force any relgious doctrine upon the free peoples of the infant United States.....the Bill of Rights guarantees Freedom Of Religion, Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Assembly, Freedom of the Press which never existed in Europe until THE PEOPLE rebelled after they had mass access to copies of the Holy Bible in English, thanks to the invention of the printing press.
Its you who refuse facts--In the Greek Lexicons, in the 2nd line at John 1:1 the true God called HoTheos, plain Theos to the word in the last line to show a difference of what one is being called. Same at 2 Cor 4:4 satan called plain Theos-god and the true God called HoTheos=God. The only 2 spots in the NT where it occurs. translating works the same at both spots-the word gets a god small g=100% fact. small g god means-has godlike qualities. There is the actual content for you.
 
Its you who refuse facts--In the Greek Lexicons, in the 2nd line at John 1:1 the true God called HoTheos, plain Theos to the word in the last line to show a difference of what one is being called. Same at 2 Cor 4:4 satan called plain Theos-god and the true God called HoTheos=God. The only 2 spots in the NT where it occurs. translating works the same at both spots-the word gets a god small g=100% fact. small g god means-has godlike qualities. There is the actual content for you.
We agree that there are two personages in these passages. We disagree on what and who the purposes are for the two God's. It's your church scholars that are changing the "G" to a "g" for the Son of God. What does John 14:9 then mean? " Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?" According to this verse, both should have a capital "G." Here is the correct answer: "He was grieved by the thought that His nearest and dearest friends on earth, those upon whom He had conferred the authority of the Holy Priesthood, should be yet ignorant of His absolute oneness with the Father in purpose and action. Had the Eternal Father stood amongst them, in Person, under the conditions there existing, He would have done as did the Well Beloved and Only Begotten Son, whom they knew as Jesus, their Lord and Master. So absolutely were the Father and the Son of one heart and mind, that to know either was to know both; nevertheless the Father could be reached only through the Son." After all, it was with the seed of the Father that Mary was with the child Jesus. Thus, Jesus is God too. "“I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.”

Catholics, Protestants and Jehovah Witnesses are all wrong when it comes to the Doctrine of Christ. They are both members of the Godhead of three, Father, Son and Holy Ghost. There is no small or large "G." Each have purpose to bring to past the immortality and eternal life of Mankind. Without One or the other, this could not happen. They all three must be separate personages but agree as one, one is purpose. Thus, The Most High God, Elohim is the Father. Without Him, there is no Universe for us to come to. The Son is Jehovah. Without Him, there would be no God to come off His throne to descend to earth, atone for our sins and create the path of resurrection back to Heavenly glory with the Father. That personage God is Jesus the Christ or Jehovah. The Holy Ghost remains a Spirit to be able to be in all places and all people to know our hearts and hear our prayers all at the same time if needs be. He's the conduit for communication to the Father through Prayer and for the connection to go through, we must dial up in the name of Jesus Christ, our Lord God. Now, you have true Doctrine straight from the Father to His servants, the Prophets. Oh you foolish people who bank solely on an old book that has been changed and translated so many times. And, has lost many writings along the way that had this information in it at one time.
 
It does not matter how you slice and dice it; the past is the past. What is important now is the here and now.

The Israelis have broken every commandment.
The Israelis murder children, destroy Palestinian villages and then build zion settlements on top of them.
The Israelis destroy Palestinian fishing boats.
The Israelis are the scum bags that God will punish, once and for all.
Never to be remembered again.

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We agree that there are two personages in these passages. We disagree on what and who the purposes are for the two God's. It's your church scholars that are changing the "G" to a "g" for the Son of God. What does John 14:9 then mean? " Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?" According to this verse, both should have a capital "G." Here is the correct answer: "He was grieved by the thought that His nearest and dearest friends on earth, those upon whom He had conferred the authority of the Holy Priesthood, should be yet ignorant of His absolute oneness with the Father in purpose and action. Had the Eternal Father stood amongst them, in Person, under the conditions there existing, He would have done as did the Well Beloved and Only Begotten Son, whom they knew as Jesus, their Lord and Master. So absolutely were the Father and the Son of one heart and mind, that to know either was to know both; nevertheless the Father could be reached only through the Son." After all, it was with the seed of the Father that Mary was with the child Jesus. Thus, Jesus is God too. "“I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.”

Catholics, Protestants and Jehovah Witnesses are all wrong when it comes to the Doctrine of Christ. They are both members of the Godhead of three, Father, Son and Holy Ghost. There is no small or large "G." Each have purpose to bring to past the immortality and eternal life of Mankind. Without One or the other, this could not happen. They all three must be separate personages but agree as one, one is purpose. Thus, The Most High God, Elohim is the Father. Without Him, there is no Universe for us to come to. The Son is Jehovah. Without Him, there would be no God to come off His throne to descend to earth, atone for our sins and create the path of resurrection back to Heavenly glory with the Father. That personage God is Jesus the Christ or Jehovah. The Holy Ghost remains a Spirit to be able to be in all places and all people to know our hearts and hear our prayers all at the same time if needs be. He's the conduit for communication to the Father through Prayer and for the connection to go through, we must dial up in the name of Jesus Christ, our Lord God. Now, you have true Doctrine straight from the Father to His servants, the Prophets. Oh you foolish people who bank solely on an old book that has been changed and translated so many times. And, has lost many writings along the way that had this information in it at one time.
Yes Jesus is Gods image( Coll 1:15)-its how they can see the Father. Jesus only spoke what the Father told him to speak, The Father did all the powerful works through Jesus( Acts 2:22, 1 Cor 8:5-6) all 3 ways they could see the Father.
 
Yes Jesus is Gods image( Coll 1:15)-its how they can see the Father. Jesus only spoke what the Father told him to speak, The Father did all the powerful works through Jesus( Acts 2:22, 1 Cor 8:5-6) all 3 ways they could see the Father.
Close, but no cigar... Jesus didn't just speak what Father in Heaven told him to speak. That's not it at all. They all speak what they know. And, they agree on everything. No rebellion. But, Jesus is a separate and distinct person than the Father. Yet, they agree as one. 1John 5:7-8, "7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
 
I was once a devoted supporter of the country named “Israel”.

But once I discovered that the IDF was using their sniper teams to single out and murder Palestinian children;
my faith in them turned to zero.

I now view the Israeli people with contempt. They are murderers who have violated God's commandments over and over. I now realize that the Israelis see themselves as “the chosen people” and yes, they were chosen to be the example for others to follow., murder is not one of them. they are sinful people.


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In my view, the Israelis will get the wrath 0f God and you will be around to see it.

Within our lifetime, we will witness God's wrath against the vile Zions.

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What will you think when this happens in OUR cities?
 
I was once a devoted supporter of the country named “Israel”.

But once I discovered that the IDF was using their sniper teams to single out and murder Palestinian children;
my faith in them turned to zero.

I now view the Israeli people with contempt. They are murderers who have violated God's commandments over and over. I now realize that the Israelis see themselves as “the chosen people” and yes, they were chosen to be the example for others to follow., murder is not one of them. they are sinful people.


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In my view, the Israelis will get the wrath 0f God and you will be around to see it.

Within our lifetime, we will witness God's wrath against the vile Zions.

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99% of all the religion on earth= Babylon the great-the harlot.
 
You omitted the most important passage when speaking about "division". There is only "One" real church that Christ constructed as the chief cornerstone, one kingdom of God, kingdom of heaven, one nation in Christ's kingdom (Matthew 16:18), and the gates of hell shall not overpower it.........there are not countless doctrines instructed by the Christ and His Apostles through the power of the Holy Spirit of God.......there is but ONE, "There is One body, and One Spirit, even as you are called in One hope of your calling, One Lord, One Faith, One baptism, One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all......." -- Eph. 4:4-6

Consider what the Christ declared in Matthew 16. The church/kingdom would belong to Christ, as both words are used synonmously in the same verse, in one breath He calls it a kingdom in the next His church. It is His church, He has the right to direct its affiars and requirements, He is its head, ITS KING.

It is not a democracy ruled by the will of the people within the kingdom, its a monarachy, with the word of its King being Law. Christ was given all authority on earth and in heaven by God the Father (Matthew 28:18) and whatever is bound (delcared) on earth by the Christ becomes law on earth and in heaven (Matthew 16:19)

"God put all things in subjection under His (Christ's) feet and gave Him as head over all things to the church, which is His body, the fullness of Him who fills all in all." -- Eph. 1:22-23 He is further directly identified as its (the church,nation, kingdom) King, He is called the King of Kings. (1 Tim. 6:15)

Christ's claim as king of His kingdom is singular in nature......"MY CHURCH" , He did not say He would build a church or the church of your choice or over 500 different churches/kingdoms. There is but ONE.

And its doctrine is found only one place The word of God, as faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word (Romans 10:17). That doctrine is based upon truth..........where is that truth found? In the Word of God (Thy word is truth and we must worship in spirit and truth (John 17:17)

How do we become wise in God's truth? We study the word. Study to show yourself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not be ashamed...........study the word to lead you into rightesouness (2 Tim. 2:15) As all scripture is inspired of God and is good for Doctrine and teaching/insturction in righteousnes (2 Tim 3:16-17)

You are never to simply take the word of anyone for doctrine...........search the scriptures to see if these things are based upon truth (Acts 17:11). We as Christians are tasked to study so that we might RIGHTLY DIVIDE THE WORD OF TRUTH, meaning consider the entirety of anyone's doctrine, test it for truth by applying the revealtions of God found in the Word of God.
Even the devils can quote scripture. Clyde does not know our Lord and Savior or His will.
 

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