China surpasses US military in Technology and Capability

[rightwinger]

If China wants to take out a carrier, they have the capability
Carriers have always been vulnerable to advanced weapons systems

However, if they were to initiate attacks, we could retaliate by wiping out their entire fleet.


If China attacks us, they will not do it militarily
They will launch a cyber attack

You are correct. We have allowed too much decay in the ship fleets and warplane stock. However we are still the bad boy on the block. If China sank even one escort ship they would pay for it 100 fold so fast and hard they wouldn't have time to heat their dog meat dinner before they had to start swimming. Trump would close down all trade Immediately...effectively constipating their outgoing sea ports.

The article's author is also a bit misinformed. The US Navy does have rail guns. But more to the point they also have littoral craft equipped with satellite guided weaponry that is virtually immune to interception. Within an hour after our loss I have no doubt that a dozen Chinese vessels would be going under.

Jo

Much of our fleet and airframes are quite old. But every military on earth has the same problem

Difference is that our equipment is well maintained and upgraded with the latest technology.

I realize that it's heinously expensive and I understand the viewpoint of those who bemoan the enormity of the military budget. However the cost of being number one may be worth the price. There isn't anybody out there who wants to take on the US military conventionally not even China.

Jo

I worked for DoD for 40 years. The defining element is the threat that you face. You develop weapons systems and personnel to counter that threat. In every major weapons or communications system I worked on, your first paragraph in the specification was......Threat Definition

The problem with our military today is there just isn’t the threat like we had in the Cold War. We should have been winding down our military over the last thirty years and used the money on public infrastructure and social programs

Instead, we have created imaginary threats to justify a bloated military

 

[EvilCat Breath]

China educates its people. The Chinese are raised to be patriots. The advancement of the country has not been suborned to social justice.

 

[EverCurious]

If the US hadn't fucked the wage market with minimum wage and "wage equality" and blah blah blah then businesses would have stayed in the US and cut out the middle man of shipping.

If American workers were willing to work for $2 an hour, jobs would not go to China

True story.

You're an idiot if you don't frankly. That's the trick to fucking with the min wage, you gotta keep it less than the cost of shipping the goods back into America. Unfortunately politicians are dumb shits and ignored that reality and balance. They let the OWS and $15/h idiots run their policy and made a damned mess. Oh and unions, they were the first dipshits.

American workers have suffered since the demise of unions to fight for their rights

American corporations are making record profits. Top executives make the most in the world. Yet the workers have been left behind and get an increasingly smaller piece of the pie

Look, it's not my fault you financially uneducated twits can't understand basic common sense shit...

Corporations and the wealthy are investing in other nations today (they were not in the past,) that's why they have more money relative to their American workers now.

How about you add in /all/ their workers across the spectrum instead of only looking at the fate of /just/ American workers? They've brought a crap ton of other nations workers out of third world conditions and you're sitting here crying about how it's so unfair that some foreigner got helped instead of you. Typical virtue signalers with no actual principles...

Anyway, Corporations offer this thing called "profit sharing" to their important employees (like top executives) who then reap the benefit of the global market. So while you... "less-driven" folks work minimum wage jobs at Starbucks in your home town and complain about the bill for your outrageous urban rent, child care, leased car, and 2019 iPhone... Us "more driven" folks are moving and shaking globally. That is the majority of why there is wealth inequality; wealthy folks tap into the global market, "less driven" people do not.

It is also true that when unemployment hits somewhere in the US (due to bad policy, a recession, natural disaster, a business going under, whatever,) we "driven" folks will move to where we can earn enough to pay our bills vs min wage workers refuse to relocate and thus get paid less as a whole. "Less driven" folks also tend to work the bare minimum, "driven" folks work as much overtime as they can, and often times work multiple jobs to stuff into their futures (property, investments, etc.)

Has nothing to do with Union's, it has to do with how much you are willing to do to secure your own future. The wealthy are almost universally willing to do more, and no shit it reflects on their paychecks...

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Why don`t we buy our war toys from China? We spend a whole lot more than they do on this crap but yet we`re afraid of them.

For one thing, they'd probably be set to spy on us or make us vulnerable in some way.

China has an excessively paranoid government in the Communist party.
If reports are accurate (and there are enough Americans coming and going from China to confirm), they have installed over a half million surveillance cameras to watch the population.

That said, many Chinese firms have been identified to have added "backdoors" for secret access to Consumer electronics sold in the US.

Of course, the Communist will come back with "Oh, But but the US does these things also."
Problem with that BS is that all the device are Made In China.

What’s inside made-in-China electronics should worry federal customers, study says
What’s inside made-in-China electronics should worry federal customers, study says

The US Department of Homeland Security's Industrial Control Systems Cyber Emergency Response Team (ICS-CERT) has issued an advisory for vulnerabilities to Hikvision cameras, crediting and confirming the work of researcher Montecrypto who originally disclosed the backdoor in Hikvision cameras.
Hikvision Backdoor Confirmed

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

American workers have suffered since the demise of unions to fight for their rights

American corporations are making record profits. Top executives make the most in the world. Yet the workers have been left behind and get an increasingly smaller piece of the pie

You see?
Leftists ALWAYS cling to and depend on a "Nanny" state to do for them.

American workers have ALWAYS had the ability to vote with their feet.
Don't blame the corporations paying them wages too high and benefits too good to walk away from.

Unions have been one of the leading forces in destroying Americas manufacturing viability.
Not to mention they became political tools putting politics WAY ahead of care for workers.

Basically a Socialist / Communist scheme to weaken American manufacturing.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

I worked for DoD for 40 years. The defining element is the threat that you face. You develop weapons systems and personnel to counter that threat. In every major weapons or communications system I worked on, your first paragraph in the specification was......Threat Definition

The problem with our military today is there just isn’t the threat like we had in the Cold War. We should have been winding down our military over the last thirty years and used the money on public infrastructure and social programs

Instead, we have created imaginary threats to justify a bloated military

Hilarious.....
You claim there are no threats ......

yet fully support the Russian Collusion nonsense

COMEDY GOLD !

 

[Unkotare]

We execute people here too you know.

Not sure what you're saying?
....

I’m saying we execute people in this country too.

 

[anynameyouwish]

Chinese warship that appears to have terrifying 'next-gen' hypersonic rail gun spotted at sea
Chinese warship that appears to have terrifying 'next-gen' hypersonic rail gun spotted at sea

China bet big on quantum computing. Now the US races to keep up.
China bet big on quantum computing. Now the US races to keep up. - CNN

Chinese naval commander says sinking US ship would end South China Sea spat
Chinese naval commander says sinking US ship would end South China Sea spat

Speaking at a Chinese military industry summit on December 20, Luo took aim at the US military, which he described as one of “five cornerstones” of possible US weakness. According to the academic, “what the United States fears the most is taking casualties.”

Pointing to China’s growing anti-ship and cruise missile capabilities, which he said are now able to get past a carrier’s escorts, Luo said that the destruction of a single carrier would cost 5,000 US servicemen’s lives, while destroying two such carriers would double the losses.

“We’ll see how frightened America is,” he said.

Speaking more broadly, Luo said that in dealing with Washington, Beijing must “use its strength to attack the enemy’s shortcomings. Attack wherever the enemy is afraid of being hit. Wherever the enemy is weak, just focus on developing [an advantage].”

And he's ABSOLUTELY right. If China sinks a few US Aircraft Carriers, the Left will probably nominate China for several Nobel "Peace" Prizes.

From US Planes falling apart due to lack of funds for parts and maintenance, to the US military being feminized and made gay to satisfy political correctness, to Quantum technology......

China is Fast forwarding it's technological advantages and leaving the US in the dust.
This is what happens when 1.3 billion people work together. China makes no attempt to declare it's intent for global domination. Nor any attempt to mask it's horrible history of human rights abuses.
This is what happens when painting the White House in Rainbow colors is more important than your country. Perhaps freedom and individuality was a losers strategy after all? Sure appears that way.

However, Americans can still be PROUD of these facts.....for a short while longer anyway....

1). Gay rights are now more important than National Defense
2). Americans would rather shut down the government than protect it's citizens and borders.
3). Becoming a Social Media Star (if even in your head), has eclipsed the desire to get a formal education
4). We have crumbling Infrastructure, but at least burger flippers will get $15.00/hr
5). The US has the highest population per capita of drug abusers

Congratulations.....Stick a fork in it
LOSERS!!!


PS, when the US falls, so does the ENTIRE Western Civilization. (Yes, that includes the UK)
The West is about to get put where it belongs.
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Americans have their Priorities In Order:
Recreational marijuana sales begin in Massachusetts, first on the East Coast
Recreational marijuana sales kicked off in Massachusetts, first on the East Coast - The Boston Globe

THIS scene is repeating all acoss America. Meanwhile, In China, post graduate Higher Learning Institutions are turning out record numbers of advanced Scientists and Research Engineers.

NORTHAMPTON — Daquaan Hamilton wasn’t about to let a little sleet stop him from making history.

On Tuesday morning, the 22-year-old UMass Amherst student and hundreds of other people from around New England rose hours before dawn, bundled up in warm clothing and rain jackets, and made a pilgrimage to this progressive enclave for one reason: to be among the first to legally purchase recreational marijuana in Massachusetts.

“The legalization of marijuana is a huge step forward for all of us, and I wanted to be a part of that,” said Hamilton.

Are you admitting that communist socialism is BEATING American capitalism?


Are you saying freedom is bad and we should be more like china?

Are you saying if we ever want to be the STRONGEST NATION again we must persecute gays and atheists and liberals and feminists and decent people and pot smokers?

Are you saying you want to behave exactly like communist china?

 

[rightwinger]

If the US hadn't fucked the wage market with minimum wage and "wage equality" and blah blah blah then businesses would have stayed in the US and cut out the middle man of shipping.

If American workers were willing to work for $2 an hour, jobs would not go to China

True story.

You're an idiot if you don't frankly. That's the trick to fucking with the min wage, you gotta keep it less than the cost of shipping the goods back into America. Unfortunately politicians are dumb shits and ignored that reality and balance. They let the OWS and $15/h idiots run their policy and made a damned mess. Oh and unions, they were the first dipshits.

American workers have suffered since the demise of unions to fight for their rights

American corporations are making record profits. Top executives make the most in the world. Yet the workers have been left behind and get an increasingly smaller piece of the pie

Look, it's not my fault you financially uneducated twits can't understand basic common sense shit...

Corporations and the wealthy are investing in other nations today (they were not in the past,) that's why they have more money relative to their American workers now.

How about you add in /all/ their workers across the spectrum instead of only looking at the fate of /just/ American workers? They've brought a crap ton of other nations workers out of third world conditions and you're sitting here crying about how it's so unfair that some foreigner got helped instead of you. Typical virtue signalers with no actual principles...

Anyway, Corporations offer this thing called "profit sharing" to their important employees (like top executives) who then reap the benefit of the global market. So while you... "less-driven" folks work minimum wage jobs at Starbucks in your home town and complain about the bill for your outrageous urban rent, child care, leased car, and 2019 iPhone... Us "more driven" folks are moving and shaking globally. That is the majority of why there is wealth inequality; wealthy folks tap into the global market, "less driven" people do not.

It is also true that when unemployment hits somewhere in the US (due to bad policy, a recession, natural disaster, a business going under, whatever,) we "driven" folks will move to where we can earn enough to pay our bills vs min wage workers refuse to relocate and thus get paid less as a whole. "Less driven" folks also tend to work the bare minimum, "driven" folks work as much overtime as they can, and often times work multiple jobs to stuff into their futures (property, investments, etc.)

Has nothing to do with Union's, it has to do with how much you are willing to do to secure your own future. The wealthy are almost universally willing to do more, and no shit it reflects on their paychecks...

Has everything to do with unions and collective bargaining
Wages and benefits have eroded since the demise of unions.
Corporate profits are up
Worker productivity is up
Yet workers make less

Strong unions would not have stood for it

 

[rightwinger]

I worked for DoD for 40 years. The defining element is the threat that you face. You develop weapons systems and personnel to counter that threat. In every major weapons or communications system I worked on, your first paragraph in the specification was......Threat Definition

The problem with our military today is there just isn’t the threat like we had in the Cold War. We should have been winding down our military over the last thirty years and used the money on public infrastructure and social programs

Instead, we have created imaginary threats to justify a bloated military

Hilarious.....
You claim there are no threats ......

yet fully support the Russian Collusion nonsense

COMEDY GOLD !

LOL

How is our military going to fight collusion?

 

[Unkotare]

I have and I do by the hundreds. Your hysteria is off the mark.

You're claiming to have considerable knowledge of Chinese culture and government....?

I have experience and familiarity.

 

[danielpalos]

China educates its people. The Chinese are raised to be patriots. The advancement of the country has not been suborned to social justice.

what can you not learn on YouTube or Patreon if you can afford it?

 

[EverCurious]

If the US hadn't fucked the wage market with minimum wage and "wage equality" and blah blah blah then businesses would have stayed in the US and cut out the middle man of shipping.

If American workers were willing to work for $2 an hour, jobs would not go to China

True story.

You're an idiot if you don't frankly. That's the trick to fucking with the min wage, you gotta keep it less than the cost of shipping the goods back into America. Unfortunately politicians are dumb shits and ignored that reality and balance. They let the OWS and $15/h idiots run their policy and made a damned mess. Oh and unions, they were the first dipshits.

American workers have suffered since the demise of unions to fight for their rights

American corporations are making record profits. Top executives make the most in the world. Yet the workers have been left behind and get an increasingly smaller piece of the pie

Look, it's not my fault you financially uneducated twits can't understand basic common sense shit...

Corporations and the wealthy are investing in other nations today (they were not in the past,) that's why they have more money relative to their American workers now.

How about you add in /all/ their workers across the spectrum instead of only looking at the fate of /just/ American workers? They've brought a crap ton of other nations workers out of third world conditions and you're sitting here crying about how it's so unfair that some foreigner got helped instead of you. Typical virtue signalers with no actual principles...

Anyway, Corporations offer this thing called "profit sharing" to their important employees (like top executives) who then reap the benefit of the global market. So while you... "less-driven" folks work minimum wage jobs at Starbucks in your home town and complain about the bill for your outrageous urban rent, child care, leased car, and 2019 iPhone... Us "more driven" folks are moving and shaking globally. That is the majority of why there is wealth inequality; wealthy folks tap into the global market, "less driven" people do not.

It is also true that when unemployment hits somewhere in the US (due to bad policy, a recession, natural disaster, a business going under, whatever,) we "driven" folks will move to where we can earn enough to pay our bills vs min wage workers refuse to relocate and thus get paid less as a whole. "Less driven" folks also tend to work the bare minimum, "driven" folks work as much overtime as they can, and often times work multiple jobs to stuff into their futures (property, investments, etc.)

Has nothing to do with Union's, it has to do with how much you are willing to do to secure your own future. The wealthy are almost universally willing to do more, and no shit it reflects on their paychecks...

Has everything to do with unions and collective bargaining
Wages and benefits have eroded since the demise of unions.
Corporate profits are up
Worker productivity is up
Yet workers make less

Strong unions would not have stood for it

No it has way, way more to do with how computers changed global investing... See: How The Internet Has Changed Investing and this:

Sorry to burst your bubble that the wealthy hate the poor, I know your political hacks have lied to you you're entire life, but it is nothing more than us rich people investing in a global market that opened up like a fucking rose in the 80s because of the internet. I know because I've been riding it my entire life. The difference between how fast /I/ can make money vs how fast my parents made money investing is like comparing walking to a jet fighter...

 

[toobfreak]

Chinese warship that appears to have terrifying 'next-gen' hypersonic rail gun spotted at sea
Chinese warship that appears to have terrifying 'next-gen' hypersonic rail gun spotted at sea

China bet big on quantum computing. Now the US races to keep up.
China bet big on quantum computing. Now the US races to keep up. - CNN

Chinese naval commander says sinking US ship would end South China Sea spat
Chinese naval commander says sinking US ship would end South China Sea spat

IF TRUE, YOU CAN THANK DEMOCRATS. Do they ever do anything good for America ever?

• First the Clintons spent 8 years in the 90s selling this country DOWN THE TUBES to the Chinese for personal gain (and should have been shot for it). Nothing the Chinese have isn't based on former American technology they stole or we gave them.
• Barry Obummer finished the job by defunding and cutting back our military and firing all its talent.

CONGRATULATIONS DEMS! You're one step closer to your goal!

 

[Unkotare]

I have and I do by the hundreds. Your hysteria is off the mark.

..
Mostly defending Communism and against the US.
.....?

Who is doing that? Sure as hell not me. Take fucking care with any accusations, boy.

 

[Unkotare]

I have and I do by the hundreds. Your hysteria is off the mark.

... How do we know you're not simply a Communist yourself for example?

How do we know you aren’t?

 

[GreenAndBlue]

Yes this threat is real

Why because China controls their unwise and women and have advanced

But but there is nothing more powerful than white Protestant males

American men will stop the freedoms of the non wise and go on a stampede. To invent And win again

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

I’m saying we execute people in this country too.

So, you make the assertion that US executions vs Chinese executions are equal in number and by equal due process (relative to population size)?

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

LOL
How is our military going to fight collusion?

Deflection, and obviously avoiding the clear point made.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Are you admitting that communist socialism is BEATING American capitalism?
Are you saying freedom is bad and we should be more like china?

Are you saying if we ever want to be the STRONGEST NATION again we must persecute gays and atheists and liberals and feminists and decent people and pot smokers?

Are you saying you want to behave exactly like communist china?

Good to see you aren't exaggerating what I said

Can you show me all the Laws and whee the Constitution specifically directed the population against the groups you mentioned?
Somehow you believe that people NOT in the groups you mentioned NEVER suffer persecution by anyone. How silly.
A wise person knows there will always be bottom dwellers in ALL societies who feel the need to belittle or attack others who are different for various shortcomings in their own characters. What about crippled people? what about people with facial birth defects?
You think ONLY Gays and Lesbians have had some problems?

As far as China.....

If it were NOT at the cost of human rights, perhaps.
Unfortunately China has a dismal human rights Record. Currently there is ethnic cleansing occurring in the far West Provinces against Muslims.

The Chinese people are by no means, "free". Like the North Koreans, they are born into a system of continual conditioning and brainwashing. Is that better? It seems to some, it is.