China promoting their system as a "consultative democracy", painting U.S system as "only serving wealthy donors and war mongerers"

[shockedcanadian]

Try not doing any more "PSAS".

Worry about your own posts and I will worry about mine.

 

[IM2]

Worry about your own posts and I will worry about mine.

I am concerned about disinformation such as what you post.

 

[shockedcanadian]

I am concerned about disinformation such as what you post.

There is no disinformation. Educate yourself a little bit further than what MSNBC or ABC tell you on a nightly basis.

 

[IM2]

There is no disinformation. Educate yourself a little bit further than what MSNBC or ABC tell you on a nightly basis.

Your posts are pure disinformation. So take your concern for whatever you think China is going to do to YOUR Prime Minister.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Your posts are pure disinformation. So take your concern for whatever you think China is going to do to YOUR Prime Minister.

I will send him an email.

 

[ice man]

Your posts are pure disinformation. So take your concern for whatever you think China is going to do to YOUR Prime Minister.

No, ma'am. Something is not "disinformation" just because you disagree with it.

 

[ice man]

I am concerned about disinformation such as what you post.

Why? It's a 2-bit forum.

 

[shockedcanadian]

That's o.k., you just don't want to admit that you don't know.

He's mentally ill. He blew his cover when he told us that two undercover cops were placed in a hospital lineup to watch him.

He's on medication but experiments with skipping it some days. You'll know when he gets on about his conspiracy theory again.

You've got a bad attitude Joe. You're smart enough to know most of the facts but you've got this love and heil America thing up your ass.

You and your cult of criminals have been exposed. Great effort applied to ruin my life. Protecting the worst among us, whether pedos, abusers or cops who tell young women to kill themselves (and she did).

The greatest national security threat to Canada is indeed unaccountable and within.

 

[SweetTea]

Or... we've been doing it your way since Ronnie Ray-gun, and people are seeing it doesn't work.

Trickle down- doesn't.
Deregulation means they see what they can get away with.
Tax cuts don't pay for themselves.

Do you know why China is succeeding in the world today?

They go around the world helping people build roads and bridges to move their products.
We drop bombs. Or sell bombs to other people to drop, like the Zionists.

The Chinese happily trade with anyone.
We try to economically bully countries that pick forms of government we don't like.

(And this is both Republicans AND Democrats who do this shit)

So while China has moved up 300 million people into the Middle class, we've managed to shrink the Middle class.

Yeah, China is so great that they continue to have negative migration out of the country. I guess that is just like those wonderful blue cities in the US that people keep leaving...for some strange reason. I can't imagine why. Hint: Better standards of living.

 

[JoeB131]

Yeah, China is so great that they continue to have negative migration out of the country. I guess that is just like those wonderful blue cities in the US that people keep leaving...for some strange reason. I can't imagine why. Hint: Better standards of living.

They have 1.5 Billion people living in an area slightly larger than the US. Of course some people want to migrate.

China elevated 300 million people to the Middle Class in the last few decades. We've had millions fall out of the middle class.

 

[SweetTea]

They have 1.5 Billion people living in an area slightly larger than the US. Of course some people want to migrate.

China elevated 300 million people to the Middle Class in the last few decades. We've had millions fall out of the middle class.

Maybe these folks should migrate to China or maybe, just maybe, they don't have it as bad here as the left portrays. I will grant you that if I had to live on a middle class income in a large blue inner city, I would not be happy and would be looking for alternatives, but China wouldn't be on my list.

 

[JoeB131]

Maybe these folks should migrate to China or maybe, just maybe, they don't have it as bad here as the left portrays.

Or maybe they might realize Mandarin is a very difficult language to learn. (Trust me, I am trying.)

Now, Chinese immigrants who come here have a very big advantage, they have strong communities of Chinese disporia, such as Chinatowns in most of the major cities.

I will grant you that if I had to live on a middle class income in a large blue inner city, I would not be happy and would be looking for alternatives, but China wouldn't be on my list.

i'm you are very happy in your Trailer park, Cleetus, but shit, having been to the Third World South, I wouldn't want to live there.

Hey, let's look at that poverty map again.

 

[SweetTea]

i'm you are very happy in your Trailer park, Cleetus, but shit, having been to the Third World South, I wouldn't want to live there.

Yep, there are some poor Democrats in the South. That is a fact. There are also some very nice areas for people who pay for those poor Democrats. You don’t understand the demographic breakdown of the Southern states.

 

[frigidweirdo]

A heads up for the difficult challenge ahead for the U.S in trying to garner global influence. There are a number of online Western Chinese Influencers and you can always tell when they have been given their orders, wittingly or unwittingly, as their channel changes focus, the comments to their videos become more abundant and their followers increase substantially.

I'm not going to promote who these people are but there are several on Youtube and other platforms, mostly from the U.K as there are far fewer American Influencers as there used to be, but, they are becoming far better in their messaging, hitting the hot buttons and exploiting real-time concerns citizens in the West have with their own governments.

The latest attempt is to redefine the Chinese system as not being communist at all, but rather a consultative democracy. Quite frankly if the U.S is seen as a system which like Canada and some of Europe, weaponizes policing and the justice system against citizens, it is going to be a major boon for China, Russia, Iran and N Korea.

Of course there is great irony here but also a clear danger. The MSS has successfully worked the education system and politicians in certain regions for a long time and there are more young people today who admire communism than in the past. If this new description of China being a consultative democracy gains hold rather than the negative word of communism, while painting the U.S, a nation that was the beacon of democracy but no longer possesses these values; it is going to be assured destruction for the West.

"Communism with Chinese characteristics"... hasn't been working very well, mostly because it's Communism without the Communism but with the repression that the USSR, Warsaw Pact countries, Cuba etc have seen.

And now it's a "Consultative democracy"... but who are they consulting, exactly? Not the people. The people don't get a say. And when "the people" do get consulted, "the people" is merely Xi.

And what are the people going to "think"? They get told what to think, kindergartens are even pushing ideology, and elementary schools get worse. And yes, I get the irony that in the US people are told what to think, then told to vote, in an election that isn't exactly based on what the people want, but in China it's even worse.

 

[justoffal]

A heads up for the difficult challenge ahead for the U.S in trying to garner global influence. There are a number of online Western Chinese Influencers and you can always tell when they have been given their orders, wittingly or unwittingly, as their channel changes focus, the comments to their videos become more abundant and their followers increase substantially.

I'm not going to promote who these people are but there are several on Youtube and other platforms, mostly from the U.K as there are far fewer American Influencers as there used to be, but, they are becoming far better in their messaging, hitting the hot buttons and exploiting real-time concerns citizens in the West have with their own governments.

The latest attempt is to redefine the Chinese system as not being communist at all, but rather a consultative democracy. Quite frankly if the U.S is seen as a system which like Canada and some of Europe, weaponizes policing and the justice system against citizens, it is going to be a major boon for China, Russia, Iran and N Korea.

Of course there is great irony here but also a clear danger. The MSS has successfully worked the education system and politicians in certain regions for a long time and there are more young people today who admire communism than in the past. If this new description of China being a consultative democracy gains hold rather than the negative word of communism, while painting the U.S, a nation that was the beacon of democracy but no longer possesses these values; it is going to be assured destruction for the West.

Unfortunately due to our election habits only the wealthy can thrive politically.

 

[22lcidw]

They have 1.5 Billion people living in an area slightly larger than the US. Of course some people want to migrate.

China elevated 300 million people to the Middle Class in the last few decades. We've had millions fall out of the middle class.

And once they do not need us, we will know. That is a lot more people to bring into the middle class. We need to curtail the old way in government projects that makes them too expensive. A lot of corruption in it though.

 

[shockedcanadian]

"Communism with Chinese characteristics"... hasn't been working very well, mostly because it's Communism without the Communism but with the repression that the USSR, Warsaw Pact countries, Cuba etc have seen.

And now it's a "Consultative democracy"... but who are they consulting, exactly? Not the people. The people don't get a say. And when "the people" do get consulted, "the people" is merely Xi.

And what are the people going to "think"? They get told what to think, kindergartens are even pushing ideology, and elementary schools get worse. And yes, I get the irony that in the US people are told what to think, then told to vote, in an election that isn't exactly based on what the people want, but in China it's even worse.

In China it is only worse if the rest of the world believes this. China is intent on convincing them otherwise.

 

[frigidweirdo]

In China it is only worse if the rest of the world believes this. China is intent on convincing them otherwise.

Sure it is. China plays many games, as does the US and Russia and the EU and UK etc etc.

But China's leader is very dedicated to keeping his own position. Far more than any leader since Mao.

 

[JoeB131]

Yep, there are some poor Democrats in the South. That is a fact. There are also some very nice areas for people who pay for those poor Democrats. You don’t understand the demographic breakdown of the Southern states.

No, guy, they are all poor. That's the point. They would be poorer still if the Federal government didn't pump money into them.

 

[JoeB131]

"Communism with Chinese characteristics"... hasn't been working very well, mostly because it's Communism without the Communism but with the repression that the USSR, Warsaw Pact countries, Cuba etc have seen.

And now it's a "Consultative democracy"... but who are they consulting, exactly? Not the people. The people don't get a say. And when "the people" do get consulted, "the people" is merely Xi.

And what are the people going to "think"? They get told what to think, kindergartens are even pushing ideology, and elementary schools get worse. And yes, I get the irony that in the US people are told what to think, then told to vote, in an election that isn't exactly based on what the people want, but in China it's even worse.

China is hardly the dictatorship it was under Mao. I watch a lot of Chinese media with my wife. It's actually a lot of the same goofy stuff we have in our media. They have talent shows just like we do, they have talk shows just like we do, they have goofy cat videos just like we do on Social Media and no one is eating the cats.

Sure it is. China plays many games, as does the US and Russia and the EU and UK etc etc.

But China's leader is very dedicated to keeping his own position. Far more than any leader since Mao.

I'm sure he is. So is Trump. So was Biden until his own party forced him out.