Children of the Parkland Tragedy Vilified for Speaking Out and Condemned as Phonies

[TheProgressivePatriot]

How come the left wingers are protesting against Trump and not their school for failing to provide security?

Because the kids are smart enough to see that Trump's idiotic solution is to turn schools into armed camps while he and the Republican's continue to kiss the ass of the gun lobby.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Question: Who would dare, who has the temerity, who has the viciousness in them to target distraught, children who survived a school shooting and are desperate for adults to stop the killing, with a smear campaign? Who is willing to join in the chorus of voices advancing the absurd claim that they, the student survivors of the Parkland massacre are puppets of larger, nefarious forces” and participants in a conspiracy.

Answer: (A partial list)

1) Fox News

2) Donald Trump Jr.

3) The Gateway Pundit

4) One America News Network

5) Rush Limbaugh

6) Alex Jones

My guess is that I will soon be adding USMB participants to this list



https://thinkprogress.org/fox-news-parkland-smear-5331b78ee3e4/

(selected excerpts)

The unifying principle of the right-wing smear campaign against the student survivors of the Parkland massacre is that they are puppets of larger, nefarious forces. The attacks first gained prominence on Monday on the pro-Trump blog Gateway Pundit which claimed, without any evidence, that student David Hogg was a pawn of the FBI and was “merely reciting a script” in media interviews. By Tuesday, as the initial attacks gained support from Donald Trump Jr. and a former congressman, Gateway Pundit escalated the attacks, suggesting. Hogg and other students were crisis actors recruited from the school’s theater department by far-left groups controlled by George Soros. Similar outlandish claims went viral on Facebook.

Even if these kids are being coached or encouraged in some way, even if they are networking as part of a larger movement- and I hope that they are-it’s no excuse for people who are supposed to be adults to vilify them. That is no different than what right-wingers do in order to advance their agenda They were even called un-American. What is more American than protesting and exercising one’s right to free speech?

This is a thinly vailed attempt to silence them. This is evidence that the right is running scared. Scared of these children who are livid and rising up. The NRA, Trump, and their lackeys may have well met their match.

The initial attack was even more despicable and vicious:

https://thinkprogress.org/the-new-smear-campaign-against-students-who-survived-the-parkland-massacre-b71c1e1d722c/

(selected excerpts)

Students who survived the gun massacre at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School have emerged as powerful advocates of gun control and fierce critics of the NRA. Now they are being targeted by a right-wing smear campaign.

David Hogg, a senior at the school, was one of the first to appear on national television and demand action. “We’re children. You guys are the adults. You need to take some action and play a role. Work together. Come over your politics and get something done,” Hogg said, looking directly into the camera.

Hogg is now being targeted by Gateway Pundit, a far-right blog that has press credentials from the Trump White House. A post published on Monday by the site’s White House correspondent, Lucian Wintrich, features Hogg’s photo with the word “EXPOSED” stamped in red.

The Gateway Pundit story is spreading quickly on Facebook and has already been picked up by One American News Network, another right-wing outlet with White House media credentials.

In yet another account of what is happening…

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/20/business/media/parkland-shooting-media-conspiracy.html

(selected excerpts)

The teenagers of Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla., who a week ago lost 17 of their classmates and school staff members in a mass shooting, have emerged as passionate advocates for reform, speaking openly of their anger in the hope of forcing a reckoning on guns.

But in certain right-wing corners of the web — and, increasingly, from more mainstream voices like Rush Limbaugh and a commentator on CNN — the students are being portrayed not as grief-ridden survivors but as pawns and conspiracists intent on exploiting a tragedy to undermine the nation’s laws.

The theories are far-fetched. But they are finding a broad and prominent audience online. On Tuesday, the president’s son Donald J. Trump Jr. liked a pair of tweets that accused David Hogg, a 17-year-old who is among the most outspoken of the Parkland students, of criticizing the Trump administration in an effort to protect his father, whom Mr. Hogg has described as a retired F.B.I. agent.

Last week we were telling these kids not to eat laundry soap and this week you want them guiding new Federal laws.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

And your gripe is exactly why the left decided to go with children in making the argument, so that the adults who were tired of getting their behinds handed to them in these debates could have a rebuttal free charge leveled at their opponents, now they do not even have to take responsibility for their irresponsibility, just point at the kids they requite making the same arguments they have been so wrong about previously and say look how they pick on kids...I am sure you see the truth here so you may want to find a child if you want to dispute my point

That's EXACTLY why they use children. The shame factor. "How DARE you speak ill of the pooooor suffering chilllllldren". Spare me.

It's the right who has a history of using children in debates such as abortion, and same sex marriage .

It was THEM first mom!

Thank you for that eloquent, sensitive and well thought out response to a horrific tragedy. And thank you for raising the level of intellectual discourse on USMB....keep up the good work!

Hello, yes waiter...umm can I get an extra serving of guilt to go with my guilt? This stuff is truly great! Thanks.
Spare me.

I have no fucking idea what you talking about.

 

[koshergrl]

A lot of those kids interviewed were crisis actors. They deserve every bit of ridicule.

You are nothing but trash. What yo deserve is something that is not said in public. Are you one of those who are sending death threats?

This is how the left, who carefully orchestrate these events, shuts down anybody who correctly describe the situation.

CNN had *imbedded* kid reporters in the school ready to jump into action the minute the shooter made good on his many, many threats.

They had the scripts all ready to go, the parents on board. The parents who happen in this case to be *retired* FBI..living the good life. It's lucrative to sell your children to socialists. Just ask the child sex traffickers who supply the DNC .

 

[TheMoreYouKnow]

 

[Tilly]

How come the left wingers are protesting against Trump and not their school for failing to provide security?

Because the kids are smart enough to see that Trump's idiotic solution is to turn schools into armed camps while he and the Republican's continue to kiss the ass of the gun lobby.

What’s idiotic about it? It works fantastically well in Israel, and it’s what you do in your gvmnt buildings isn’t it?

 

[Weatherman2020]

How come the left wingers are protesting against Trump and not their school for failing to provide security?

Because the kids are smart enough to see that Trump's idiotic solution is to turn schools into armed camps while he and the Republican's continue to kiss the ass of the gun lobby.

And your solution is to grab guns from law abiding citizens.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

I think you have collected all of them on this thread apart from koshergirl.
Im not sure that they hate these children. Its just that their guns mean more to them than the lives of children.

Fucked up priorities, but who's surprised?

No one.
You think that you have seen it all but the power of stupidity mixed with self interest will always be a step ahead.
Are these types typical or do decent Americans shun them like the trash that they are ?

I don't even know what a typical American is any more, but the decent ones would reject the stupidity

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Because the kids are smart enough to see that Trump's idiotic solution is to turn schools into armed camps while he and the Republican's continue to kiss the ass of the gun lobby.

You really should let the kids be the ones to try and make your point on this...seriously

 

[Tilly]

How come the left wingers are protesting against Trump and not their school for failing to provide security?

Because the kids are smart enough to see that Trump's idiotic solution is to turn schools into armed camps while he and the Republican's continue to kiss the ass of the gun lobby.

And your solution is to grab guns from law abiding citizens.

And leave them with the criminals

 

[koshergrl]

How come the left wingers are protesting against Trump and not their school for failing to provide security?

Because the kids are smart enough to see that Trump's idiotic solution is to turn schools into armed camps while he and the Republican's continue to kiss the ass of the gun lobby.

What’s idiotic about it? It works fantastically well in Israel, and it’s what you do in your gvmnt buildings isn’t it?

These same idiots were screaming that we should bring all of federal firepower into play to gun down RANCHERS for pooping outside a deserted building in Malheur County.

They're just crazy. We need to lock them up before they kill more children.

 

[Tilly]

I think you have collected all of them on this thread apart from koshergirl.
Im not sure that they hate these children. Its just that their guns mean more to them than the lives of children.

Fucked up priorities, but who's surprised?

No one.
You think that you have seen it all but the power of stupidity mixed with self interest will always be a step ahead.
Are these types typical or do decent Americans shun them like the trash that they are ?

I don't even know what a typical American is any more, but the decent ones would reject the stupidity

You are not on speaking terms with decency.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Last week we were telling these kids not to eat laundry soap and this week you want them guiding new Federal laws.

this is the lefts best shot at winning seat, letting people with more nerve than they have make their case...the less a liberal is seen and heard the greater his/her chances of winning

 

[Tijn Von Ingersleben]

That's EXACTLY why they use children. The shame factor. "How DARE you speak ill of the pooooor suffering chilllllldren". Spare me.

It's the right who has a history of using children in debates such as abortion, and same sex marriage .

It was THEM first mom!

Thank you for that eloquent, sensitive and well thought out response to a horrific tragedy. And thank you for raising the level of intellectual discourse on USMB....keep up the good work!

Hello, yes waiter...umm can I get an extra serving of guilt to go with my guilt? This stuff is truly great! Thanks.
Spare me.

I have no fucking idea what you talking about.

I was drawing a comparison between service in a restaurant and your service of heaping mounds of guilt. However, I think you may have a leg up in your service technique as most servers dont have big, sloppy, crocodile tears dripping in the main course.

 

[ptbw forever]

Question: Who would dare, who has the temerity, who has the viciousness in them to target distraught, children who survived a school shooting and are desperate for adults to stop the killing, with a smear campaign? Who is willing to join in the chorus of voices advancing the absurd claim that they, the student survivors of the Parkland massacre are puppets of larger, nefarious forces” and participants in a conspiracy.

Answer: (A partial list)

1) Fox News

2) Donald Trump Jr.

3) The Gateway Pundit

4) One America News Network

5) Rush Limbaugh

6) Alex Jones

My guess is that I will soon be adding USMB participants to this list

https://thinkprogress.org/fox-news-parkland-smear-5331b78ee3e4/

(selected excerpts)

The unifying principle of the right-wing smear campaign against the student survivors of the Parkland massacre is that they are puppets of larger, nefarious forces. The attacks first gained prominence on Monday on the pro-Trump blog Gateway Pundit which claimed, without any evidence, that student David Hogg was a pawn of the FBI and was “merely reciting a script” in media interviews. By Tuesday, as the initial attacks gained support from Donald Trump Jr. and a former congressman, Gateway Pundit escalated the attacks, suggesting. Hogg and other students were crisis actors recruited from the school’s theater department by far-left groups controlled by George Soros. Similar outlandish claims went viral on Facebook.

Even if these kids are being coached or encouraged in some way, even if they are networking as part of a larger movement- and I hope that they are-it’s no excuse for people who are supposed to be adults to vilify them. That is no different than what right-wingers do in order to advance their agenda They were even called un-American. What is more American than protesting and exercising one’s right to free speech?

This is a thinly vailed attempt to silence them. This is evidence that the right is running scared. Scared of these children who are livid and rising up. The NRA, Trump, and their lackeys may have well met their match.

The initial attack was even more despicable and vicious:

https://thinkprogress.org/the-new-smear-campaign-against-students-who-survived-the-parkland-massacre-b71c1e1d722c/

(selected excerpts)

Students who survived the gun massacre at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School have emerged as powerful advocates of gun control and fierce critics of the NRA. Now they are being targeted by a right-wing smear campaign.

David Hogg, a senior at the school, was one of the first to appear on national television and demand action. “We’re children. You guys are the adults. You need to take some action and play a role. Work together. Come over your politics and get something done,” Hogg said, looking directly into the camera.

Hogg is now being targeted by Gateway Pundit, a far-right blog that has press credentials from the Trump White House. A post published on Monday by the site’s White House correspondent, Lucian Wintrich, features Hogg’s photo with the word “EXPOSED” stamped in red.

The Gateway Pundit story is spreading quickly on Facebook and has already been picked up by One American News Network, another right-wing outlet with White House media credentials.

In yet another account of what is happening…

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/20/business/media/parkland-shooting-media-conspiracy.html

(selected excerpts)

The teenagers of Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla., who a week ago lost 17 of their classmates and school staff members in a mass shooting, have emerged as passionate advocates for reform, speaking openly of their anger in the hope of forcing a reckoning on guns.

But in certain right-wing corners of the web — and, increasingly, from more mainstream voices like Rush Limbaugh and a commentator on CNN — the students are being portrayed not as grief-ridden survivors but as pawns and conspiracists intent on exploiting a tragedy to undermine the nation’s laws.

The theories are far-fetched. But they are finding a broad and prominent audience online. On Tuesday, the president’s son Donald J. Trump Jr. liked a pair of tweets that accused David Hogg, a 17-year-old who is among the most outspoken of the Parkland students, of criticizing the Trump administration in an effort to protect his father, whom Mr. Hogg has described as a retired F.B.I. agent.

This type of batshittery used to belong to fringe groups like the John Birch Society. Now it is mainstream conservatism. What self-respecting adult could even think of demonizing children that just witnessed 17 of their classmates murdered in front of them?

Conservatism has become a malignant cancer in this society. They have separated from normal everyday society themselves. I think it's time to let them go their own way and break up the country. These people want a distopia with a wall around it where they can practice their psychopathic paranoia on their own. All the rest of humanity would be better off if these people gathered themselves in the old south, built a yuuuuge wall around themselves, and never ventured out of the gate.

You pieces of shit attack white people who have been victims of hate crimes all the time.

You pieces of shit also attack anyone who speaks up about anti-white hate crimes.

 

[koshergrl]

Question: Who would dare, who has the temerity, who has the viciousness in them to target distraught, children who survived a school shooting and are desperate for adults to stop the killing, with a smear campaign? Who is willing to join in the chorus of voices advancing the absurd claim that they, the student survivors of the Parkland massacre are puppets of larger, nefarious forces” and participants in a conspiracy.

Answer: (A partial list)

1) Fox News

2) Donald Trump Jr.

3) The Gateway Pundit

4) One America News Network

5) Rush Limbaugh

6) Alex Jones

My guess is that I will soon be adding USMB participants to this list

https://thinkprogress.org/fox-news-parkland-smear-5331b78ee3e4/

(selected excerpts)

The unifying principle of the right-wing smear campaign against the student survivors of the Parkland massacre is that they are puppets of larger, nefarious forces. The attacks first gained prominence on Monday on the pro-Trump blog Gateway Pundit which claimed, without any evidence, that student David Hogg was a pawn of the FBI and was “merely reciting a script” in media interviews. By Tuesday, as the initial attacks gained support from Donald Trump Jr. and a former congressman, Gateway Pundit escalated the attacks, suggesting. Hogg and other students were crisis actors recruited from the school’s theater department by far-left groups controlled by George Soros. Similar outlandish claims went viral on Facebook.

Even if these kids are being coached or encouraged in some way, even if they are networking as part of a larger movement- and I hope that they are-it’s no excuse for people who are supposed to be adults to vilify them. That is no different than what right-wingers do in order to advance their agenda They were even called un-American. What is more American than protesting and exercising one’s right to free speech?

This is a thinly vailed attempt to silence them. This is evidence that the right is running scared. Scared of these children who are livid and rising up. The NRA, Trump, and their lackeys may have well met their match.

The initial attack was even more despicable and vicious:

https://thinkprogress.org/the-new-smear-campaign-against-students-who-survived-the-parkland-massacre-b71c1e1d722c/

(selected excerpts)

Students who survived the gun massacre at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School have emerged as powerful advocates of gun control and fierce critics of the NRA. Now they are being targeted by a right-wing smear campaign.

David Hogg, a senior at the school, was one of the first to appear on national television and demand action. “We’re children. You guys are the adults. You need to take some action and play a role. Work together. Come over your politics and get something done,” Hogg said, looking directly into the camera.

Hogg is now being targeted by Gateway Pundit, a far-right blog that has press credentials from the Trump White House. A post published on Monday by the site’s White House correspondent, Lucian Wintrich, features Hogg’s photo with the word “EXPOSED” stamped in red.

The Gateway Pundit story is spreading quickly on Facebook and has already been picked up by One American News Network, another right-wing outlet with White House media credentials.

In yet another account of what is happening…

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/20/business/media/parkland-shooting-media-conspiracy.html

(selected excerpts)

The teenagers of Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla., who a week ago lost 17 of their classmates and school staff members in a mass shooting, have emerged as passionate advocates for reform, speaking openly of their anger in the hope of forcing a reckoning on guns.

But in certain right-wing corners of the web — and, increasingly, from more mainstream voices like Rush Limbaugh and a commentator on CNN — the students are being portrayed not as grief-ridden survivors but as pawns and conspiracists intent on exploiting a tragedy to undermine the nation’s laws.

The theories are far-fetched. But they are finding a broad and prominent audience online. On Tuesday, the president’s son Donald J. Trump Jr. liked a pair of tweets that accused David Hogg, a 17-year-old who is among the most outspoken of the Parkland students, of criticizing the Trump administration in an effort to protect his father, whom Mr. Hogg has described as a retired F.B.I. agent.

This type of batshittery used to belong to fringe groups like the John Birch Society. Now it is mainstream conservatism. What self-respecting adult could even think of demonizing children that just witnessed 17 of their classmates murdered in front of them?

Conservatism has become a malignant cancer in this society. They have separated from normal everyday society themselves. I think it's time to let them go their own way and break up the country. These people want a distopia with a wall around it where they can practice their psychopathic paranoia on their own. All the rest of humanity would be better off if these people gathered themselves in the old south, built a yuuuuge wall around themselves, and never ventured out of the gate.

You pieces of shit attack white people who have been victims of hate crimes all the time.

You pieces of shit also attack anyone who speaks up about anti-white hate crimes.

Socialists. We have to stop expecting them to behave in a reasonable, legal, or decent manner.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

A lot of those kids interviewed were crisis actors. They deserve every bit of ridicule.

You are nothing but trash. What yo deserve is something that is not said in public. Are you one of those who are sending death threats?

This is how the left, who carefully orchestrate these events, shuts down anybody who correctly describe the situation.

CNN had *imbedded* kid reporters in the school ready to jump into action the minute the shooter made good on his many, many threats.

They had the scripts all ready to go, the parents on board. The parents who happen in this case to be *retired* FBI..living the good life. It's lucrative to sell your children to socialists. Just ask the child sex traffickers who supply the DNC .

Seriously ? You should be sectioned because you are a danger to yourself.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Every person but one in this photo has at least one weapon.
Guns save lives.

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

A lot of those kids interviewed were crisis actors. They deserve every bit of ridicule.

Prove it!! Your name is on this list too

The Hogg kid is a crisis actor. Oh, his mother worked for CNN as a producer for 20 years.

Student Anti-Gun Activist Featured In CBS News Story – Six Months Ago

 

[ptbw forever]

Question: Who would dare, who has the temerity, who has the viciousness in them to target distraught, children who survived a school shooting and are desperate for adults to stop the killing, with a smear campaign? Who is willing to join in the chorus of voices advancing the absurd claim that they, the student survivors of the Parkland massacre are puppets of larger, nefarious forces” and participants in a conspiracy.

Answer: (A partial list)

1) Fox News

2) Donald Trump Jr.

3) The Gateway Pundit

4) One America News Network

5) Rush Limbaugh

6) Alex Jones

My guess is that I will soon be adding USMB participants to this list

https://thinkprogress.org/fox-news-parkland-smear-5331b78ee3e4/

(selected excerpts)

The unifying principle of the right-wing smear campaign against the student survivors of the Parkland massacre is that they are puppets of larger, nefarious forces. The attacks first gained prominence on Monday on the pro-Trump blog Gateway Pundit which claimed, without any evidence, that student David Hogg was a pawn of the FBI and was “merely reciting a script” in media interviews. By Tuesday, as the initial attacks gained support from Donald Trump Jr. and a former congressman, Gateway Pundit escalated the attacks, suggesting. Hogg and other students were crisis actors recruited from the school’s theater department by far-left groups controlled by George Soros. Similar outlandish claims went viral on Facebook.

Even if these kids are being coached or encouraged in some way, even if they are networking as part of a larger movement- and I hope that they are-it’s no excuse for people who are supposed to be adults to vilify them. That is no different than what right-wingers do in order to advance their agenda They were even called un-American. What is more American than protesting and exercising one’s right to free speech?

This is a thinly vailed attempt to silence them. This is evidence that the right is running scared. Scared of these children who are livid and rising up. The NRA, Trump, and their lackeys may have well met their match.

The initial attack was even more despicable and vicious:

https://thinkprogress.org/the-new-smear-campaign-against-students-who-survived-the-parkland-massacre-b71c1e1d722c/

(selected excerpts)

Students who survived the gun massacre at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School have emerged as powerful advocates of gun control and fierce critics of the NRA. Now they are being targeted by a right-wing smear campaign.

David Hogg, a senior at the school, was one of the first to appear on national television and demand action. “We’re children. You guys are the adults. You need to take some action and play a role. Work together. Come over your politics and get something done,” Hogg said, looking directly into the camera.

Hogg is now being targeted by Gateway Pundit, a far-right blog that has press credentials from the Trump White House. A post published on Monday by the site’s White House correspondent, Lucian Wintrich, features Hogg’s photo with the word “EXPOSED” stamped in red.

The Gateway Pundit story is spreading quickly on Facebook and has already been picked up by One American News Network, another right-wing outlet with White House media credentials.

In yet another account of what is happening…

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/20/business/media/parkland-shooting-media-conspiracy.html

(selected excerpts)

The teenagers of Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla., who a week ago lost 17 of their classmates and school staff members in a mass shooting, have emerged as passionate advocates for reform, speaking openly of their anger in the hope of forcing a reckoning on guns.

But in certain right-wing corners of the web — and, increasingly, from more mainstream voices like Rush Limbaugh and a commentator on CNN — the students are being portrayed not as grief-ridden survivors but as pawns and conspiracists intent on exploiting a tragedy to undermine the nation’s laws.

The theories are far-fetched. But they are finding a broad and prominent audience online. On Tuesday, the president’s son Donald J. Trump Jr. liked a pair of tweets that accused David Hogg, a 17-year-old who is among the most outspoken of the Parkland students, of criticizing the Trump administration in an effort to protect his father, whom Mr. Hogg has described as a retired F.B.I. agent.

Well, if you're looking for the USMB members that believe this tripe, you can start off with Blind Whore (MindWars). She's already started a thread saying that the kids are "crisis actors".

That being said, I think it is a bit hypocritical, as well as quite a bit sad. Didn't the conservatives say that kids are off limits during the election?

Guess they are off limits only when they agree with the conservative agenda. Speak out against it and get savaged by their attack dogs.

Except you assholes are the ones who actually are threatening to kill kids that agree with Republicans.