Child Separation "Issue" Is Democrat Scam

[MaryL]

I am repeating this from another thread: When Americans have their kids taken from them and put in foster care , nobody cares. Everyone is lackadaisical about that. That isn't a crisis. Bad parenting we accept in America. Bad parenting by Mexicans dragging their kids into this, it becomes suddenly and immediately a faux "humanitarian" crisis. It ONLY works when it suits liberals or pandering politicians/ media . Isn't it funny how this goes? We notice.

 

[MaryL]

Most of us have stories of the "horrors" of children being separated from their parent(s). I had to call the police and child services after seeing a 2 year old toddler wandering away from her mothers "care" out into a busy street. And then the authorities showed up, and her remaining 3 kids were also put into protective care. The "trauma" of being separated from irresponsible parents, VS being put into the hands of caring responsible caretakers, that is a different take on this.

 

[busybee01]

how can I look up something, that isn't there?

YOU claim it exists.....

you need to back that up....

Here's a clue. Why do you feel Schumer wants to "fix" the family separation via executive order?

All Trump has to do is call Sessions and tell him to cut it out. He does not need a EO or legislation from Congress.

True, Trump could have called Sessions, he could even have done an EO, but as Schumer well knows either of those wouldn't have fixed squat. It would just kick the can down the road.

Trump started it and can end it anytime he wants.

You mean enforcing the law? Yeah, he did (and good for him), and yeah, he can (but he'd better not).

YOU should be ashamed of yourself for demanding that the President ignore the law, just as much as Chuck the Schmuck should be ashamed of himself for refusing to do his job.

The President has discretion in prioritizing deportations. The Supreme Court has already decided this. If Obama did not want to deport children who were brought here by their parents then he had the authority to do so. You are the one who should be ashamed of the lies you have told in defense of Trump. This is another lie. There is no law forcing Trump to do anything. He is playing to the racist right in this country.

 

[Sahba]

Most of us have stories of the "horrors" of children being separated from their parent(s). I had to call the police and child services after seeing a 2 year old toddler wandering away from her mothers "care" out into a busy street. And then the authorities showed up, and her remaining 3 kids were also put into protective care. The "trauma" of being separated from irresponsible parents, VS being put into the hands of caring responsible caretakers, that is a different take on this.

Bottom line... Black and white... no ambiguity whatsoever... ubiquitous / common knowledge... If you and your kids enter the US illegally you will be arrested and as your kids will be held in a separate facility as they are not allowed in incarceration with adults. Best to go to one of the 48 ports of entry and plead for asylum.

I can be as emotionally driven as the next.. recalling this or that tear jerker. Just like with gun legislation sad stories of loss can not drive the argument.

NO patience for posts like the one I'm responding to... Don't want the situation with separation... yell at the F'n parents that send their kids off with raping smugglers on their lonesome with the day after pill... Or cross with them.. destined for arrest and separation.

 

[eagle1462010]

Here's a clue. Why do you feel Schumer wants to "fix" the family separation via executive order?

All Trump has to do is call Sessions and tell him to cut it out. He does not need a EO or legislation from Congress.

True, Trump could have called Sessions, he could even have done an EO, but as Schumer well knows either of those wouldn't have fixed squat. It would just kick the can down the road.

Trump started it and can end it anytime he wants.

You mean enforcing the law? Yeah, he did (and good for him), and yeah, he can (but he'd better not).

YOU should be ashamed of yourself for demanding that the President ignore the law, just as much as Chuck the Schmuck should be ashamed of himself for refusing to do his job.

The President has discretion in prioritizing deportations. The Supreme Court has already decided this. If Obama did not want to deport children who were brought here by their parents then he had the authority to do so. You are the one who should be ashamed of the lies you have told in defense of Trump. This is another lie. There is no law forcing Trump to do anything. He is playing to the racist right in this country.

20 day holding period is a LAW.............backed by the courts and so ordered by the courts............

The Congress could fix this simply..............IT IS THEIR JOB TO DO SO............This is not ever supposed to be the responsibility of the POTUS........It has been challenged and lost in the courts.

 

[busybee01]

Its cruelty for the sake of being cruel. Americans do not respond to that.

So now enforcing the laws designed to PROTECT Americans is cruelty, huh? How about the many more AMERICANS being separated ? Not cruelty over there ?

The SCAM is coming out in the wash. Now that Trump is doing EO to keep families together, Democrats are movingte goalposts (As they always intended to do). We're seeing the plan, bright and clear now. Here's Sen. marco Rubio's take on it >>

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Marco Rubio
✔ @marcorubio

The ink isn’t even dry on the new executive order ending separation policy & some Democrats already arguing that keeping families together isn’t enough. Now they want them & their parents released after unlawful entry knowing full well that high % will never appear for hearing
4:06 PM - Jun 20, 2018 17.8K

A few others weighed in too. >>

Monica Crowley
✔ @MonicaCrowley

Because for them, it's never been about "the children." It's always been about open borders.

Tammy Bruce
✔ @HeyTammyBruce

And that has been the point-- force Trump to continue Catch & Release.

It's no scam. Former first lady Laura Bush had this to say, and she lives in a border state.
Laura Bush blasts Trump migrant policy as 'cruel' and 'immoral'
Laura Bush says Trump's immigrant children policy is "cruel"
Laura Bush pens scathing column on child separation as part of immigration policy - CNNPolitics

The Bushes have NOTHING to say. They perpetrated horrible immigration policies on the American people for 8 years. They're lucky to not all be arrested for treason.

What will Democrats conjure up next ? Pheeeew! Whatever it is, it will probably be something they can use their well-honed fake outrage skills with.

The Bushes have a lot to say. She is a class act and you are a trash act. you should be arrested for treason.

And again, I just heard, "She agrees with me, so that makes her correct."

Hey, if you want to orgasm over being "validated" by someone famous agreeing with you, knock yourself out. Myself, I'll stick to reality and facts agreeing with me, and continue to not give a rat's ass about name-dropper politics.

Americans trust her more than they do Trump. Franklin Graham also agrees with Laura Bush.

Only if one defines "Americans" as "doofuses who need someone famous to tell them what to think".

Laura Bush is apparently a nice lady. She was a good First Lady. She is noticeably not an expert, or even experienced, in the areas of immigration, law, or governance. I care no more about what she has to say than I do about any garden-variety gland-thinker.

And as near as I can tell, Franklin Graham's big area of expertise is in having a famous father. I don't know that I would necessarily stipulate his expertise in theology, let alone politics and law, because I don't even know the guy.

If your big "victory" move is to trot out a line of celebrities and famous people and say, "HE says this, and SHE says that, and look at all these other people and how famous they are" in the hopes that I'll desperately want to associate myself with them or feel some sort of peer pressure, I'd advise you to give up now.

The facts are the facts; reality is reality. There is no amount of "But it makes me feez BAAAAAADDDD!" that is going to change that, and I'm utterly indifferent to hysterical emotion. (Particularly when I think it's ginned-up fakery on your part, anyway.)

The fact is that these people have more credibility than Trump among ordinary voters. Voters are overwhelmingly closer to Laura Bush and Franklin Graham on this issue. That is why Trump was forced to retreat.

We know you are a indifferent animal. You are the only fake one around here. You are a fake human being.

 

[busybee01]

The whole country knows you people are crazy except for crazies like you., Separating children from their parents has nothing to do with open borders. That is but a attempt to quell debate on this. Franklin Graham is right to call this disgusting. Never voted for a Democrat although I would consider someone like Phil Bredeson who talks about working together.

You're in a dream world My best guess is you're an illegal employer. ICE will catch up to you.

You are in a world that rejects racists like you. Let ICE try something. Trump's Gestapo can do nothing.

 

[busybee01]

how can I look up something, that isn't there?

YOU claim it exists.....

you need to back that up....

Here's a clue. Why do you feel Schumer wants to "fix" the family separation via executive order?

All Trump has to do is call Sessions and tell him to cut it out. He does not need a EO or legislation from Congress.

True, Trump could have called Sessions, he could even have done an EO, but as Schumer well knows either of those wouldn't have fixed squat. It would just kick the can down the road.

Trump started it and can end it anytime he wants.

Not exactly the brightest in the bunch, are you? ...Dumbass
Those photos of immigrant children “caged” by the US? They’re from 2014

Why Obama Failed at Immigration Reform and Duped Us All

Court blocks Obama administration from detaining asylum-seekers

Obama did not separate children from their parents no matter how hard you try. It is Sessions' stated policy not Obama's.

 

[busybee01]

You are bad. Kidnapping children is evil. Terrorism is evil.

If you think it's evil then stop doing it. You immigration supporters are the ones to blame for all this mess. You encourage these people to come here, and when they get here, you pretend Trump and his people re to blame.

You are the ones doing it. People have a right to come here and ask for asylum. It was Trump and Sessions who separated children from their families. You are the one pretending.

 

[Sahba]

Here's a clue. Why do you feel Schumer wants to "fix" the family separation via executive order?

All Trump has to do is call Sessions and tell him to cut it out. He does not need a EO or legislation from Congress.

True, Trump could have called Sessions, he could even have done an EO, but as Schumer well knows either of those wouldn't have fixed squat. It would just kick the can down the road.

Trump started it and can end it anytime he wants.

Not exactly the brightest in the bunch, are you? ...Dumbass
Those photos of immigrant children “caged” by the US? They’re from 2014

Why Obama Failed at Immigration Reform and Duped Us All

Court blocks Obama administration from detaining asylum-seekers

Obama did not separate children from their parents no matter how hard you try. It is Sessions' stated policy not Obama's.

U are so inept or willfully delusional... use your 'google box' and determine for yourself in 30 sec. flat MORON ... enough is enough already

 

[busybee01]

They were given time to prepare. That is not a true test. It can be propaganda.

Any more excuses you can think up ?

That is more than a excuse. That is how propagandists like you work.

 

[MaryL]

Now I don't know which is more traumatic. Having parents that will willingly risk their child's well being for their benefit or laws that would take away children from abusive and negligent parents and put them into better hands. This like a Rorschach test.

 

[Care4all]

All Trump has to do is call Sessions and tell him to cut it out. He does not need a EO or legislation from Congress.

True, Trump could have called Sessions, he could even have done an EO, but as Schumer well knows either of those wouldn't have fixed squat. It would just kick the can down the road.

Trump started it and can end it anytime he wants.

You mean enforcing the law? Yeah, he did (and good for him), and yeah, he can (but he'd better not).

YOU should be ashamed of yourself for demanding that the President ignore the law, just as much as Chuck the Schmuck should be ashamed of himself for refusing to do his job.

The President has discretion in prioritizing deportations. The Supreme Court has already decided this. If Obama did not want to deport children who were brought here by their parents then he had the authority to do so. You are the one who should be ashamed of the lies you have told in defense of Trump. This is another lie. There is no law forcing Trump to do anything. He is playing to the racist right in this country.

20 day holding period is a LAW.............backed by the courts and so ordered by the courts............

The Congress could fix this simply..............IT IS THEIR JOB TO DO SO............This is not ever supposed to be the responsibility of the POTUS........It has been challenged and lost in the courts.

the Court RULED it can not be any longer than 20 days.... I don't think congress can change that...?

 

[Sahba]

You are bad. Kidnapping children is evil. Terrorism is evil.

If you think it's evil then stop doing it. You immigration supporters are the ones to blame for all this mess. You encourage these people to come here, and when they get here, you pretend Trump and his people re to blame.

You are the ones doing it. People have a right to come here and ask for asylum. It was Trump and Sessions who separated children from their families. You are the one pretending.

U think for I 589 or others like it are a new concept.. or a discontinued concept under Trump... I really have to stop reading your posts... lol... BP is up for sure with you...

Application for Asylum and for Withholding of Removal
file:///C:/Users/chris/AppData/Local/Temp/i-589-1.pdf

 

[eagle1462010]

True, Trump could have called Sessions, he could even have done an EO, but as Schumer well knows either of those wouldn't have fixed squat. It would just kick the can down the road.

Trump started it and can end it anytime he wants.

You mean enforcing the law? Yeah, he did (and good for him), and yeah, he can (but he'd better not).

YOU should be ashamed of yourself for demanding that the President ignore the law, just as much as Chuck the Schmuck should be ashamed of himself for refusing to do his job.

The President has discretion in prioritizing deportations. The Supreme Court has already decided this. If Obama did not want to deport children who were brought here by their parents then he had the authority to do so. You are the one who should be ashamed of the lies you have told in defense of Trump. This is another lie. There is no law forcing Trump to do anything. He is playing to the racist right in this country.

20 day holding period is a LAW.............backed by the courts and so ordered by the courts............

The Congress could fix this simply..............IT IS THEIR JOB TO DO SO............This is not ever supposed to be the responsibility of the POTUS........It has been challenged and lost in the courts.

the Court RULED it can not be any longer than 20 days.... I don't think congress can change that...?

If they pass a law ...........YES THEY CAN..............It would have to be a Supreme decision at that point...........But Congress has every right to create a law.

 

[busybee01]

It's not a "policy". It is simply people DOING THEIR JOBS. The executive Branch ENFORCES laws. The law is to stop illegal invaders violating immigration law (US Code 8, Section 1325. Just because past administrations didn't do their job, that doesn't make it a POLICY when you DO your job.

Trump is to be praised for zero tolerance (it is THE LAW). Obama should be blamed for his tolerance (in violation of the law)

It is a policy that was stated by Sessions himself. The courts have said the President has discretion in prioritizing deportations. Trump should be condemned for acting like the two bit dictatorial thug he is. No wonder he loves Putin.

 

[Cecilie1200]

The Dystopian Horror Of Housing Children In An Old Walmart | HuffPost

Then the news broke last week that migrant children from Central America are being housed in an old Walmart in Brownsville, Texas, it was just the latest indication that the U.S. is fast turning into some kind of dystopian hellscape.

Walmart has long been a symbol of some of the most dehumanizing and ruthless inclinations of American capitalism. The multibillion-dollar retailer relies on a low-wage workforce to peddle cheap goods to many people who are just getting by. Walmart’s recently made an effort to both improve conditions for employees and support manufacturing in the U.S. But over its history, the company has helped hollow out main streets across the country, driving domestic manufacturers out of business, outsourcing more work to overseas suppliers and fueling the kind of globalization that Trump supporters purport to detest.

The dystopian horror of reading Hufflepuff Post as though it was real news.

You must enjoy being laughed at and spit on.

It does not get much stupider than this. You cant just decry any reporting that you don't like as fake news. That is call magical thinking that only small children and the insane engage in

New York Times, Huffington Post and Politico Win Pulitzers

I'm not "decrying any reporting I don't like". I'm specifically saying that Huff-and-Puff is an opinion rag, masquerading as journalism. And while I realize that celebrity is everything to you, and all status and respectability is conveyed in your eyes by how many famous people agree, it doesn't actually mean a damned thing to me. I'm capable of actually thinking for myself. You should try it sometime.

Meanwhile, let's use the example of your very own quote from this "prize-winning reporting", aka melodramatic propaganda:

"Walmart has long been a symbol of some of the most dehumanizing and ruthless inclinations of American capitalism."

Yeah, 'nuff said. Piss off.

"Walmart has long been a symbol of some of the most dehumanizing and ruthless inclinations of American capitalism." is a statement of fact as is the FACT that they are housing children in a Walmart . Get over yourself.

Which just goes to prove that you can't even DEFINE "fact", let alone recognize one if it crawled up your pants leg and bit you on the left ass cheek.

As far as I'm concerned, a WalMart is the perfect place to house these people. You leftists hate WalMart because you spit on regular Americans and their concerns, and you fight for unhindered illegal immigration because you spit on regular Americans and their concerns.

It's perfect symmetry.

 

[busybee01]

Most of us have stories of the "horrors" of children being separated from their parent(s). I had to call the police and child services after seeing a 2 year old toddler wandering away from her mothers "care" out into a busy street. And then the authorities showed up, and her remaining 3 kids were also put into protective care. The "trauma" of being separated from irresponsible parents, VS being put into the hands of caring responsible caretakers, that is a different take on this.

Bottom line... Black and white... no ambiguity whatsoever... ubiquitous / common knowledge... If you and your kids enter the US illegally you will be arrested and as your kids will be held in a separate facility as they are not allowed in incarceration with adults. Best to go to one of the 48 ports of entry and plead for asylum.

I can be as emotionally driven as the next.. recalling this or that tear jerker. Just like with gun legislation sad stories of loss can not drive the argument.

NO patience for posts like the one I'm responding to... Don't want the situation with separation... yell at the F'n parents that send their kids off with raping smugglers on their lonesome with the day after pill... Or cross with them.. destined for arrest and separation.

It is not black and white. A President has broad discretion in prioritizing deportations. This is all Trump's doing. Americans standing up and saying no other than corrupt Republicans forced Trump to back down.

 

[busybee01]

All Trump has to do is call Sessions and tell him to cut it out. He does not need a EO or legislation from Congress.

True, Trump could have called Sessions, he could even have done an EO, but as Schumer well knows either of those wouldn't have fixed squat. It would just kick the can down the road.

Trump started it and can end it anytime he wants.

Not exactly the brightest in the bunch, are you? ...Dumbass
Those photos of immigrant children “caged” by the US? They’re from 2014

Why Obama Failed at Immigration Reform and Duped Us All

Court blocks Obama administration from detaining asylum-seekers

Obama did not separate children from their parents no matter how hard you try. It is Sessions' stated policy not Obama's.

U are so inept or willfully delusional... use your 'google box' and determine for yourself in 30 sec. flat MORON ... enough is enough already

I already have determined it did not happen. You are a delusional Trump supporter. Enough is enough with you sick people who should be locked in a rubber room somewhere where you people won't hurt anyone. MORON.

 

[MaryL]

Most of us have stories of the "horrors" of children being separated from their parent(s). I had to call the police and child services after seeing a 2 year old toddler wandering away from her mothers "care" out into a busy street. And then the authorities showed up, and her remaining 3 kids were also put into protective care. The "trauma" of being separated from irresponsible parents, VS being put into the hands of caring responsible caretakers, that is a different take on this.

Bottom line... Black and white... no ambiguity whatsoever... ubiquitous / common knowledge... If you and your kids enter the US illegally you will be arrested and as your kids will be held in a separate facility as they are not allowed in incarceration with adults. Best to go to one of the 48 ports of entry and plead for asylum.

I can be as emotionally driven as the next.. recalling this or that tear jerker. Just like with gun legislation sad stories of loss can not drive the argument.

NO patience for posts like the one I'm responding to... Don't want the situation with separation... yell at the F'n parents that send their kids off with raping smugglers on their lonesome with the day after pill... Or cross with them.. destined for arrest and separation.

Really? Aren't you sanctimonious? We separate kids from their parents every bleeding day of the week of the year. Divorce, Um well, then there's plain pure and simple neglect. And sometimes parents go to jail. Their kids end up in foster care. I have no idea what universe you or the rest of you wonderful wankers live in. So when Mexicans think they are above the law (Remember the...law?), think again. And they drag their kids into this,that is reprehensible on so many levels. Nobody is above the law, no matter how you define it.