Chicago teachers to go on strike after talks with Rahm Emanuel fail

[Claudette]

The irony of it all! A leading Democrat having Union problems. In another article, the Union called Emanuel a "bully" and wanted Obama to talk to Rahm. A 16% raise?!!!

Holy cow. The economy is in the crapper and folks are paying up the ass in taxes as it is and the teachers are expecting a 16% raise??

Wonder if the classrooms are gold plated??

 

[ScreamingEagle]

The irony of it all! A leading Democrat having Union problems. In another article, the Union called Emanuel a "bully" and wanted Obama to talk to Rahm. A 16% raise?!!!

Holy cow. The economy is in the crapper and folks are paying up the ass in taxes as it is and the teachers are expecting a 16% raise??

Wonder if the classrooms are gold plated??

no....but their pensions are.....

 

[Full-Auto]

It's not a 16% raise. If your employer offers to increase your pay by 10% over the next 10 years so that in ten years you are only making 10% more than you are now, would you consider that a raise? Should we all scream how it is ridiculous that you are getting a 10% raise? It's a stupid argument isn't it? But you throw it out there anyway which makes you either a major troll or just completely unwilling to take the time to do the research so you can understand what the 16% covers.

The real problem is it is a raise in costs, with no corresponding increase in output. So all it does is add to inflation.

I usually get a small to medium raise at the end of each year, depending on my performance. In return my company gets a more experienced engineer each year. Ive gotten two promotional raises in 14 years, and for that the company gets more work out of me in a managerial sense.

Raises like this just add to costs, with no return on productivity or results. They are basically cost of living adjustments, which are needed due to inflation, which causes the need for cost of living adjustments. Do you see the cycle here?

So we should put a pay freeze on everyone's wages then. Got it.

The issue isnt the money...Its the accountability.

You should read what this is about..........

 

[AmyNation]

Someone said in a diffrent thread, Chicago teachers make more because they are required to have a BA and professional degree. I have not been able to confirm this, anyone know if it's true? Just curious, as it would explain why their wages are so high....

 

[Full-Auto]

Someone said in a diffrent thread, Chicago teachers make more because they are required to have a BA and professional degree. I have not been able to confirm this, anyone know if it's true? Just curious, as it would explain why their wages are so high....

How to Become a Kindergarten Teacher in Chicago | eHow.com

You should be able to chase it down now...Good luck..........

 

[paulitician]

Chicago teachers to go on strike after talks with Rahm Emanuel fail


1. Chicago teachers strike with an impasse against Rahm Emanuel, Mayor of Chicago.

2. The school district was facing a $700 million deficit.

3. The latest offer has been a 16% raise and an evaluation tied to student standardized test scores, but teachers aren’t having any part of it. They say that would cost 6,000 teacher jobs.

Read more: Chicago teachers to go on strike after talks with district fail | Fox News

Who these days is seeing a 16% raise? Teachers have to be accountable for their performance, but the devil is in the details. Scores should only count from spring to spring scores, (No pre and post scores) and only students without attendance problems should be included in the evaluation. It should be on growth of performance and not meeting the standards of the grade. (one month growth for each month in school would be considered average)

A bit torn siding with that corrupt asshole Emanuel, but i have to on this one. Chicago Teachers do not deserve a raise of any kind. Their record on educating children is absolutely abysmal. They should be ashamed of themselves for walking out on the kids this way. To Hell with em.

 

[freedombecki]

Scary classrooms!

Sure are. Can you imagine sending your kid to a classroom to be taught by someone who decided $59,000 wasn't good enough for an annual stipend in this economy where we have a president who just ousted tens of thousands from private enterprise jobs?

What's he trying to pull?

Don't teachers do math any more? Their district in Chicago is already $600 million in the hole. They should be volunteering for pay cuts to make sure the system doesn't go bankrupt.

What a bunch of piggies at the trough. While misfortune looms for the area, teachers want to enjoy wealth while others hit rock bottom.

small correction;

It's not $59k a year, it's $59k for 9 months.

I stand corrected.

 

[freedombecki]

Chicago teachers to go on strike after talks with Rahm Emanuel fail

1. Chicago teachers strike with an impasse against Rahm Emanuel, Mayor of Chicago.

2. The school district was facing a $700 million deficit.

3. The latest offer has been a 16% raise and an evaluation tied to student standardized test scores, but teachers aren’t having any part of it. They say that would cost 6,000 teacher jobs.

Read more: Chicago teachers to go on strike after talks with district fail | Fox News

Who these days is seeing a 16% raise? Teachers have to be accountable for their performance, but the devil is in the details. Scores should only count from spring to spring scores, (No pre and post scores) and only students without attendance problems should be included in the evaluation. It should be on growth of performance and not meeting the standards of the grade. (one month growth for each month in school would be considered average)

A 16% raise in this economy? Now we know who the **** is causing bankruptices in our AMerican cities. It's time for some union busting if you ask me.

I think it's the "merit pay" the unions are scared of, it goes against everything unions stand for to get paid for what you do.

They take their cue from the President--dictate to the underlings who pay your salary and make ugly faces.

 

[bodecea]

Chicago teachers to go on strike after talks with Rahm Emanuel fail


1. Chicago teachers strike with an impasse against Rahm Emanuel, Mayor of Chicago.

2. The school district was facing a $700 million deficit.

3. The latest offer has been a 16% raise and an evaluation tied to student standardized test scores, but teachers aren’t having any part of it. They say that would cost 6,000 teacher jobs.

Read more: Chicago teachers to go on strike after talks with district fail | Fox News

Who these days is seeing a 16% raise? Teachers have to be accountable for their performance, but the devil is in the details. Scores should only count from spring to spring scores, (No pre and post scores) and only students without attendance problems should be included in the evaluation. It should be on growth of performance and not meeting the standards of the grade. (one month growth for each month in school would be considered average)

A bit torn siding with that corrupt asshole Emanuel, but i have to on this one. Chicago Teachers do not deserve a raise of any kind. Their record on educating children is absolutely abysmal. They should be ashamed of themselves for walking out on the kids this way. To Hell with em.

You should go show them how it's done.

 

[paulitician]

Chicago teachers to go on strike after talks with Rahm Emanuel fail


1. Chicago teachers strike with an impasse against Rahm Emanuel, Mayor of Chicago.

2. The school district was facing a $700 million deficit.

3. The latest offer has been a 16% raise and an evaluation tied to student standardized test scores, but teachers aren’t having any part of it. They say that would cost 6,000 teacher jobs.

Read more: Chicago teachers to go on strike after talks with district fail | Fox News

Who these days is seeing a 16% raise? Teachers have to be accountable for their performance, but the devil is in the details. Scores should only count from spring to spring scores, (No pre and post scores) and only students without attendance problems should be included in the evaluation. It should be on growth of performance and not meeting the standards of the grade. (one month growth for each month in school would be considered average)

A bit torn siding with that corrupt asshole Emanuel, but i have to on this one. Chicago Teachers do not deserve a raise of any kind. Their record on educating children is absolutely abysmal. They should be ashamed of themselves for walking out on the kids this way. To Hell with em.

You should go show them how it's done.

Still defending the indefensible ay? So sad.

 

[freedombecki]

Chicago teachers to go on strike after talks with Rahm Emanuel fail


1. Chicago teachers strike with an impasse against Rahm Emanuel, Mayor of Chicago.

2. The school district was facing a $700 million deficit.

3. The latest offer has been a 16% raise and an evaluation tied to student standardized test scores, but teachers aren’t having any part of it. They say that would cost 6,000 teacher jobs.

Read more: Chicago teachers to go on strike after talks with district fail | Fox News

Who these days is seeing a 16% raise? Teachers have to be accountable for their performance, but the devil is in the details. Scores should only count from spring to spring scores, (No pre and post scores) and only students without attendance problems should be included in the evaluation. It should be on growth of performance and not meeting the standards of the grade. (one month growth for each month in school would be considered average)

A bit torn siding with that corrupt asshole Emanuel, but i have to on this one. Chicago Teachers do not deserve a raise of any kind. Their record on educating children is absolutely abysmal. They should be ashamed of themselves for walking out on the kids this way. To Hell with em.

That calls to mind the former Clinton spin room director's role in obfuscation. Has he really reformed, or what is his party going to get out of this? Maybe a union boss got ugly with Obama and needs payback? I'm not getting what all of this is about from Rahm Emanuel. I'm glad you mentioned it, though.

 

[tjvh]

Nice how the teachers adamantly oppose having their lucrative raise tied to Test scores, and accountability. Sure it's all about the Children. "16% raise and an evaluation tied to student standardized test scores"

 

[CrusaderFrank]

what i already pointed out in an earlier post.....the union wants like a 9% actual raise......3% raise the first year, 2% the second, 2% the third, 2% the fourth.....

these raises are in addition to the regular COLAs (cost of living adjustments) that they normally get......including pensions..

together it all adds up to about 16%....

That ends Talking Point #1: It's really Not a 16% increase!

 

[bodecea]

A bit torn siding with that corrupt asshole Emanuel, but i have to on this one. Chicago Teachers do not deserve a raise of any kind. Their record on educating children is absolutely abysmal. They should be ashamed of themselves for walking out on the kids this way. To Hell with em.

You should go show them how it's done.

Still defending the indefensible ay? So sad.

You are indefensible?....because it was you and your mad teachery skills I was talking about.....sad indeed.

 

[Full-Auto]

Chicago teachers to go on strike after talks with Rahm Emanuel fail


1. Chicago teachers strike with an impasse against Rahm Emanuel, Mayor of Chicago.

2. The school district was facing a $700 million deficit.

3. The latest offer has been a 16% raise and an evaluation tied to student standardized test scores, but teachers aren’t having any part of it. They say that would cost 6,000 teacher jobs.

Read more: Chicago teachers to go on strike after talks with district fail | Fox News

Who these days is seeing a 16% raise? Teachers have to be accountable for their performance, but the devil is in the details. Scores should only count from spring to spring scores, (No pre and post scores) and only students without attendance problems should be included in the evaluation. It should be on growth of performance and not meeting the standards of the grade. (one month growth for each month in school would be considered average)

A bit torn siding with that corrupt asshole Emanuel, but i have to on this one. Chicago Teachers do not deserve a raise of any kind. Their record on educating children is absolutely abysmal. They should be ashamed of themselves for walking out on the kids this way. To Hell with em.

You should go show them how it's done.

You guys would complain the kids are no-longer being shaken down for their lunch money.....

 

[paulitician]

You should go show them how it's done.

Still defending the indefensible ay? So sad.

You are indefensible?....because it was you and your mad teachery skills I was talking about.....sad indeed.

Still no logical coherent point to make. Why are you even on this thread? We all know you're gonna defend your Teacher Union hacks at all cost. So you have nothing to offer, as usual. Now would be the perfect time for you to exit this thread. Bye bye. Have a good day.

 

[bodecea]

Still defending the indefensible ay? So sad.

You are indefensible?....because it was you and your mad teachery skills I was talking about.....sad indeed.

Still no logical coherent point to make. Why are you even on this thread? We all know you're gonna defend your Teacher Union hacks at all cost. So you have nothing to offer, as usual. Now would be the perfect time for you to exit this thread. Bye bye. Have a good day.

So..when are you heading out to Chicago to show them how to be an effective teacher?

 

[paulitician]

You are indefensible?....because it was you and your mad teachery skills I was talking about.....sad indeed.

Still no logical coherent point to make. Why are you even on this thread? We all know you're gonna defend your Teacher Union hacks at all cost. So you have nothing to offer, as usual. Now would be the perfect time for you to exit this thread. Bye bye. Have a good day.

So..when are you heading out to Chicago to show them how to be an effective teacher?

Your deflection thread-hijack attempts aren't even creative anymore. You've lost it, and have become very lazy. You must be a member of a Teacher Union. That would explain things. May i suggest you retire from Message Boards? You just don't bring anything to the table anymore. You're burned out. Time to call it quits for awhile. Maybe recharge your batteries and then come back. Just a friendly suggestion anyway. Good luck.

 

[AmyNation]

Someone said in a diffrent thread, Chicago teachers make more because they are required to have a BA and professional degree. I have not been able to confirm this, anyone know if it's true? Just curious, as it would explain why their wages are so high....

How to Become a Kindergarten Teacher in Chicago | eHow.com

You should be able to chase it down now...Good luck..........

Ok, I looked and I'm offically calling bullshit. Chicago teaching standards are no higher than elsewhere.

 

[paulitician]

Someone said in a diffrent thread, Chicago teachers make more because they are required to have a BA and professional degree. I have not been able to confirm this, anyone know if it's true? Just curious, as it would explain why their wages are so high....

How to Become a Kindergarten Teacher in Chicago | eHow.com

You should be able to chase it down now...Good luck..........

Ok, I looked and I'm offically calling bullshit. Chicago teaching standards are no higher than elsewhere.

Their record on educating Chicago children is shockingly abysmal. Their demand for a pay raise should be met with unwavering resistance. They have done absolutely nothing to deserve a pay raise. It is what it is.