Cheapest source of Fossil Fuel generation is Double the cost of Utility-scale solar

I think that needs to be accounted for if we are going to replace electricity generated from fossil fuels.

Unless the climate doomers want to survive a Chicago winter using only solar while
the rest of us use nuclear and fossil fuels?

The survivors can tell us in spring how much cheaper their energy bills were.
 
Are you suggesting that the people who were trying to show wind and solar were cheaper than fossil fuels provided low estimates for fossil fuels? C'mon, man. Think.
Lazard is the wind and solar investment firm. Do you think their study reflects reality, especially considering our electric bills are going up.

Why do we need a study to show the costs when we can look at electric bills
 
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Lazard is the wind and solar investment firm...
Lying POS
You're showing your completely Stupid Hillbilly ass.

Lazard is an old and Elite Banking and investment firm like the Rothschilds.
Known for most of it's life as Lazard Freres & Co.

I'm a lifetime Wall Streeter, You're a brainwashed MAGAt.

Like ALL of the other deniers here you have to Fabricate shlt.


Lazard Inc. (formerly known as Lazard Ltd and Lazard Frères & Co.) is a financial advisory and asset management firm that engages in investment banking, asset management and other financial services, primarily with institutional clients. It is the World's Largest Independent investment bank, with principal executive offices in New York City, Paris and London.....

 
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Lying POS
You're showing your completely Stupid Hillbilly ass.

Lazard is an old and Elite Banking and investment firm like the Rothschilds.
Known for most of it's life as Lazard Freres & Co.

I'm a lifetime Wall Streeter, You're a brainwashed MAGAt.


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Lazard is the green energy investment firm putting out propaganda to trick people into investing.

Solar and wind are the most expensive form of making electricity. If the can make any at all.
 
Lying POS
You're showing your completely Stupid Hillbilly ass.

Lazard is an old and Elite Banking and investment firm like the Rothschilds.
Known for most of it's life as Lazard Freres & Co.

I'm a lifetime Wall Streeter, You're a brainwashed MAGAt.

Like ALL of the other deniers here you have to Fabricate shlt.


Lazard Inc. (formerly known as Lazard Ltd and Lazard Frères & Co.) is a financial advisory and asset management firm that engages in investment banking, asset management and other financial services, primarily with institutional clients. It is the World's Largest Independent investment bank, with principal executive offices in New York City, Paris and London.....


Does Lazard have any examples of utility scale solar energy actually reducing costs for consumers or municipalities or even nations?
 
SOLAR, there is no solar electricity tonight. There will be no solar electricity at dawn or dusk, but if there was solar electricity it would be cheaper than the electricity that actually does exist.

Pretty funny, how stupid the solar advocates are. Solar electricity is cheap they claim, but you can't buy any.
 
Lying POS
You're showing your completely Stupid Hillbilly ass.

Lazard is an old and Elite Banking and investment firm like the Rothschilds.
Known for most of it's life as Lazard Freres & Co.

I'm a lifetime Wall Streeter, You're a brainwashed MAGAt.

Like ALL of the other deniers here you have to Fabricate shlt.


Lazard Inc. (formerly known as Lazard Ltd and Lazard Frères & Co.) is a financial advisory and asset management firm that engages in investment banking, asset management and other financial services, primarily with institutional clients. It is the World's Largest Independent investment bank, with principal executive offices in New York City, Paris and London.....


Hey stupid ... from YOUR OWN citation:

"pv magazine USA offers daily updates of the latest photovoltaics news. We also offer comprehensive global coverage of the most important solar markets worldwide"

HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW ... next time, try reading with comprehension ...

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My question is whose "lifetime" are we using as a time standard ... we have mayflies here that only live a few hours ... or do they mean the "lifetime" of the panel ... maybe a dog's "lifetime", as measured in dog years ...

We should be able to get free quotes for roof-top installations ... go ahead and see if solar works for you ... free electricity even in Chicago; 6 hours a day every other day, if the snow isn't too deep; is still better than paying for electricity ... on the other hand, roof-top and utility-scale should be law in the Desert Southwest ... no matter the cost ... to power the desalination plants they need for drinking water ...

Only a MORON puts solar panels on top of a coal seam ... or a gas fired plant in the rain forest ... or a wind farm above the manure piles at stockyards ...

ETA: Idaho is almost completely reliant on cheap, carbon-neutral, hippified liberal/commie/McGovernik renewable energy ... nasty Democrats ...
 
I think that needs to be accounted for if we are going to replace electricity generated from fossil fuels.
We're going to partly replace fossil fuels with cleaner and greener alternatives. And we're going to find ways of reducing our energy consumption.

Can we talk about alternative means of transportation, such as mass transit and other solutions?
 
Hey stupid ... from YOUR OWN citation:

"pv magazine USA offers daily updates of the latest photovoltaics news. We also offer comprehensive global coverage of the most important solar markets worldwide"

HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW ... next time, try reading with comprehension ...

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My question is whose "lifetime" are we using as a time standard ... we have mayflies here that only live a few hours ... or do they mean the "lifetime" of the panel ... maybe a dog's "lifetime", as measured in dog years ...

We should be able to get free quotes for roof-top installations ... go ahead and see if solar works for you ... free electricity even in Chicago; 6 hours a day every other day, if the snow isn't too deep; is still better than paying for electricity ... on the other hand, roof-top and utility-scale should be law in the Desert Southwest ... no matter the cost ... to power the desalination plants they need for drinking water ...

Only a MORON puts solar panels on top of a coal seam ... or a gas fired plant in the rain forest ... or a wind farm above the manure piles at stockyards ...

ETA: Idaho is almost completely reliant on cheap, carbon-neutral, hippified liberal/commie/McGovernik renewable energy ... nasty Democrats ...
Is your god making you too, angry and rude?
 
Is your god making you too, angry and rude?

Thank you for the ad hominem attack ... you agree with me the OP is strictly advertising for solar ... that's what trade groups do, advocate for their industry ... like asking Exxon to advertise they're murdering people ...
 
Thank you for the ad hominem attack ... you agree with me the OP is strictly advertising for solar ... that's what trade groups do, advocate for their industry ... like asking Exxon to advertise they're murdering people ...
If the question causes you to imagine that you were attacked, then that's the proof on what I said.

Did you imagine that it was me making you angry and sad?

Who is causing Ding's anguish? I think he realizes that his childhood beliefs have been abandoned and he's not able to accept the new and more modern truths. Do you feel the same betrayal or have you accepted the changes as being necessary and found peace with it?
 
We're going to partly replace fossil fuels with cleaner and greener alternatives. And we're going to find ways of reducing our energy consumption. Can we talk about alternative means of transportation, such as mass transit and other solutions?
That's not what the Fossil Fuel Non-Proliferation Treaty Initiative says. It says the objective is to phase out all fossil fuel-generated electricity. So maybe before we talk about alternative means of transportation such as mass transit and other solutions, maybe you should familiarize yourself with the initiatives you so blindly and ignorantly support.
 
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Thank you for the ad hominem attack ... you agree with me the OP is strictly advertising for solar ... that's what trade groups do, advocate for their industry ..
No.
The article was a legitimate News Story REPORTING the Annual LCOE by prestigious Lazard (see who they are above).

YOU are a FRAUD who just seeks to dump as many Physics Terms you can into your pointless chatter.

You Cannot and have Not laid out your position on AGW (or Not) lest you lose your Status/Wanted Persona of a RWer.



like asking Exxon to advertise they're murdering people ...
They did keep it covered for 40 Years but Yes!

Revealed: Exxon made 'breathtakingly' accurate climate ...

The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com › business › jan › exxon-...
Jan 12, 2023 — Exxon scientists predicted there would be global heating of about 0.2C a decade due to the emissions of planet-heating gases from the burning ...

The New York Times

Exxon Scientists Predicted Global Warming, Even as Company Cast Doubts, Study Finds​

Jan 12, 2023 — Overall, Exxon's global warming projections closely tracked subsequent temperature increases of around 0.2 degrees Celsius of global warming ...

CNN

Exxon accurately predicted global warming from 1970s – but continued to cast doubt on climate science, new report finds​

https://www.cnn.com › 2023/01/12 › business › exxon-...
Jan 12, 2023 — Exxon projected an average warming of around 0.2 degrees Celsius per decade, according to the report.

BBC

ExxonMobil: Oil giant predicted climate change in 1970s - scientists​

12 January 2023
https://www.bbc.com › science-environment-64241994
Jan 12, 2023 — ExxonMobil's private research predicted how burning fossil fuels would warm the planet but the company publicly denied the link, they suggest.

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No.
The article was a legitimate News Story REPORTING the Annual LCOE by prestigious Lazard (see who they are above).

YOU are a FRAUD who just seeks to dump as many Physics Terms you can into your pointless chatter.

You Cannot and have Not laid out your position on AGW (or Not) lest you lose your Status/Wanted Persona of a RWer.




They did keep it covered for 40 Years but Yes!


Revealed: Exxon made 'breathtakingly' accurate climate ...

The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com › business › jan › exxon-...
Jan 12, 2023 — Exxon scientists predicted there would be global heating of about 0.2C a decade due to the emissions of planet-heating gases from the burning ...

The New York Times

Exxon Scientists Predicted Global Warming, Even as Company Cast Doubts, Study Finds​

Jan 12, 2023 — Overall, Exxon's global warming projections closely tracked subsequent temperature increases of around 0.2 degrees Celsius of global warming ...

CNN

Exxon accurately predicted global warming from 1970s – but continued to cast doubt on climate science, new report finds​

https://www.cnn.com › 2023/01/12 › business › exxon-...
Jan 12, 2023 — Exxon projected an average warming of around 0.2 degrees Celsius per decade, according to the report.

BBC
https://www.bbc.com › science-environment-64241994
Jan 12, 2023 — ExxonMobil's private research predicted how burning fossil fuels would warm the planet but the company publicly denied the link, they suggest.

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Fraudulent LCOE numbers are very convincing. DURR
 
Hey stupid ... from YOUR OWN citation:

"pv magazine USA offers daily updates of the latest photovoltaics news. We also offer comprehensive global coverage of the most important solar markets worldwide"

HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW ... next time, try reading with comprehension ...

=====

My question is whose "lifetime" are we using as a time standard ... we have mayflies here that only live a few hours ... or do they mean the "lifetime" of the panel ... maybe a dog's "lifetime", as measured in dog years ...

We should be able to get free quotes for roof-top installations ... go ahead and see if solar works for you ... free electricity even in Chicago; 6 hours a day every other day, if the snow isn't too deep; is still better than paying for electricity ... on the other hand, roof-top and utility-scale should be law in the Desert Southwest ... no matter the cost ... to power the desalination plants they need for drinking water ...

Only a MORON puts solar panels on top of a coal seam ... or a gas fired plant in the rain forest ... or a wind farm above the manure piles at stockyards ...

ETA: Idaho is almost completely reliant on cheap, carbon-neutral, hippified liberal/commie/McGovernik renewable energy ... nasty Democrats ...
But again
""The article was a legitimate News Story REPORTING the Annual LCOE by prestigious Lazard. (see who they are above).""

And Also Again:


YOU are a FRAUD who just seeks to dump as many Physics Terms you can into your pointless chatter.

You Cannot and have Not laid out your position on AGW (or Not) lest you lose your Status/Wanted Persona of a RWer.


What is your position on AGW you FRAUD?
Tell all the Dumbbells you post with.

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That the theoretical instantaneous GHG effect from a doubling of atmospheric CO2 is only 1C.
Classic !!
Why just yesteday...

EDIT: Note the NO Rebutttal post of the denier Troll 'ding.'
He writes One line or dumps an Irrelevant Graph.
He has No Real Game and is Non-conversant except in the Religion section. Stay there Boy.
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