Charlotte Light Rail Murder: Mayor Defends Criminal Instead of Victim

[Unkotare]

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I give directly.

Give what?

 

[petro]

Just pointing out the obvious that the far right wing loves them some "White Women In Peril".

Just like the left thrives on Trans and Blacks in peril.
You love that shit hypocrite.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Give what?

Money to people in need

 

[Unkotare]

Money to people in need

Cash? To them directly?

 

[LeftofLeft]

Cash? To them directly?

Sure. I trust them more than I do bureaucrats.

 

[Unkotare]

Sure. I trust them more than I do bureaucrats.

Why do you hate people in need?

 

[LeftofLeft]

Why do you hate people in need?

What are you talking about? I just demonstrated how and why I support and trust people in need directly and not the bureaucracy to help people in need.

 

[Unkotare]

What are you talking about? I just demonstrated how and why I support and trust people in need directly and not the bureaucracy to help people in need.

You know they don't use the money you give them to buy food, books, or medicine, right?

 

[LeftofLeft]

You know they don't use the money you give them to buy food, books, or medicine, right?

In some or many cases, yes. But I also know that in a bureaucracy, funds must first go to overhead before it reaches the recipients…. And even then in some cases, they aren’t using the funds properly

 

[Unkotare]

In some or many cases, yes. But I also know that in a bureaucracy, funds must first go to overhead before it reaches the recipients…. And even then in some cases, they aren’t using the funds properly

So, give them a sandwich or a book, or help them fill a prescription if they've got one.

 

[JoeB131]

I don’t pretend I don’t see the homeless….especially when they panhandle. I remind myself that this is an opportunity to feed and clothe the poor as per the teachings of Jesus Christ.

It is not the poor or homeless that I am skeptical. It is the tax-funded bureaucracy supposedly set up to solve the problem that ends up using it as a vehicle to reward political cronies.

I give directly.

Actually, I don't give directly for a very good reason.

You give a homeless person money, he isn't going to rent a hotel or buy some food, he's going to either find his pusher or he's going to go to a liquor store and buy a bottle of Mad Dog 20/20.

I don't think Jesus said anything about reinforcing people's self-destructive habit.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Actually, I don't give directly for a very good reason.

You give a homeless person money, he isn't going to rent a hotel or buy some food, he's going to either find his pusher or he's going to go to a liquor store and buy a bottle of Mad Dog 20/20.

I don't think Jesus said anything about reinforcing people's self-destructive habit.

Your assumption is that every homeless person is a druggie and/or an alcoholic. I had a homeless man last week sit at my table at a coffee shop in DC. We talked. I bought him some breakfast and gave him $10.

Jesus commands his followers to feed and cloth the poor. He says nothing about relying on the State (Caesar) to do it for you: “Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s and to God the things that are God’s”.

The State does not own everything nor is it owed everything. Plus, the State has proven to be corrupt and inefficient when it comes to feeding, clothing, and caring for the poor.

My preference is to give directly and hold the State more accountable when it comes to serving the poor.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Do you want to have a discussion about bail, then?

I'm all for locking up violent people without bail.

I'm not for locking up non-violent people because they can't get a bail bond.

So let's get back to this case, and not all the other shit you want to throw against the wall to see what sticks.

This guy was arrested because he kept calling 911 when he had a mental health episode.

This judge issued a notice to appear and referred him to a mental health clinic. That almost sounds... humane. Inadequate, but humane.

Except for the fact that the ******* judge owned the ******* mental health clinic. It sounds like self dealing to me.

 

[JoeB131]

Your assumption is that every homeless person is a druggie and/or an alcoholic. I had a homeless man last week sit at my table at a coffee shop in DC. We talked. I bought him some breakfast and gave him $10.

I'm happy for you, but how did that change his life? He had one meal. Maybe two if he spent the $10.00 wisely.

Jesus commands his followers to feed and cloth the poor. He says nothing about relying on the State (Caesar) to do it for you: “Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s and to God the things that are God’s”.

YOu are taking that quote out of context. Jesus was asked about the Temple Tax. If he said, "Don't pay your tax", they'd have ratted him out to the Romans as a traitor. If he said "You should pay your Taxes,", they'd have denounced him for not being a good enough Jew.

(Key point here, I don't think Jesus actually existed, so this is probably the writer making shit up.)

 

[JoeB131]

Except for the fact that the ******* judge owned the ******* mental health clinic. It sounds like self dealing to me.

You really need to stop reading kook websites.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

You really need to stop reading kook websites.

Prove it wrong

 

[JoeB131]

Prove it wrong

That's not how proof works.

It's not my job to prove a negative.

Prove to me you're not a Russian bot.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

That's not how proof works.

It's not my job to prove a negative.

Prove to me you're not a Russian bot.

Russians are better than democrats

 

[LeftofLeft]

I'm happy for you, but how did that change his life? He had one meal. Maybe two if he spent the $10.00 wisely.

I wasn’t out to change his life. I was out to help. When it comes to bloated corrupt bureaucracies trying to make a buck off the plight of the poor, how much have they helped.

YOu are taking that quote out of context. Jesus was asked about the Temple Tax. If he said, "Don't pay your tax", they'd have ratted him out to the Romans as a traitor. If he said "You should pay your Taxes,", they'd have denounced him for not being a good enough Jew.

(Key point here, I don't think Jesus actually existed, so this is probably the writer making shit up.)

The writer was Matthew. Look it up.

 

[JoeB131]

I wasn’t out to change his life. I was out to help. When it comes to bloated corrupt bureaucracies trying to make a buck off the plight of the poor, how much have they helped.

You mean other than the poverty rate being 70% in the 1920s but only being 11.1% today?

The writer was Matthew. Look it up.

Ah, you mean the Matthew who supposedly knew Jesus personally, but cribbed 70% of his Gospel from Mark, who didn't? That Matthew? The guy who made up prophecies that Jesus supposedly fulfilled?

Actually, the reference first appears in the Gospel of Mark, 12:17.

Mark's Gospel was written before Matthew's. ofMatthew's Gospel was an expansion of Mark's specifically targeted towards converting Jews. (As opposed to John's, which was written when Christianity was its own thing, and saw Jews as the enemy.)