Charlie Kirk’s death

[gipper]

Attempting reconciliation rather than inciting further division is the challenge for leadership.

It shouldn’t be a challenge. It should be obvious.

 

[DonGlock26]

 

[Missouri_Mike]

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Instead of dealing with one you now get to deal with 19 minimum. I love it.

 

[BothWings]

Look, you are absolutely delusional. Kirk was no Billy Graham, who brought a documented 3.2 million people to Christ over a span of decades. I highly doubt his death has resulted in a single soul changing their lives and committing it to Christ. Nor has he swayed anyone to conservatism, he was not a conservative, neither is Trump.

So, I go out on Sunday morning to do some shopping. Pretty early actually, I need cat food or the beasts are going to revolt. I sure don't want that. Driving back home I got some woman on my ass, like I can count the hairs on her chin in my rearview mirror, she is not two feet off my back bumper. I tap the brakes, she locks her van up, you can hear the tires squalling. She passes me in the turning lane and I can see her cussing me as she drives by. She then promptly climbs up the ass of the next car in front of her only to turn into, well, a damn church. Christian my damn ass, and the same holds true for most of the Charlie Kirk crowd and damn near all of the recent converts, as if there are any.

I agreed with him on Conservative issues while yawning and texting my way through his little religious snippets. Completely unnecessary for me to agree with him politically.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

I agreed with him on Conservative issues while yawning and texting my way through his little religious snippets. Completely unnecessary for me to agree with him politically.

Conservative atheists are a part of the problem, but you are where you are at this stage of your life.

 

[toobfreak]

Excellent!

I have long said that any opinion worth having should be able to stand up against any challenge and/or questioning using verifiable facts from credible sources. There is also an element of logic, reason, history, personal experience that also goes into all that. Charlie Kirk utilized all that. His entire message and emphasis was to restore basic positive values that make a person whole, that make a nation great.

Kirk routinely not only proved the Left wrong, but proved that they were not as well-informed as he was, in fact, he routinely embarrassed so-called college graduates.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

I agreed with him on Conservative issues while yawning and texting my way through his little religious snippets. Completely unnecessary for me to agree with him politically.

Are you starting to see the benefits of both? They are complementary.

 

[Foxfyre]

I agreed with him on Conservative issues while yawning and texting my way through his little religious snippets. Completely unnecessary for me to agree with him politically.

Charlie did not feel his calling was to be another Billy Graham or anything close to that. He was never apologetic for his Christian beliefs however no matter how much they might have bored some people

His 'ministry' was one of opening conversations, promoting critical thinking, logic, reason to the issues and circumstances in today's society, replacing indoctrination and dogma and partisan propaganda with common sense.

While I agreed with Charlie's perspective far more than I disagreed, he held some religious perspective that I didn't/don't share and some sociopolitical perspective that I didn't/don't share, but I have never required anybody to agree with me in every respect in order to be a credible person.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

I don't care for this guy's style, but he makes a really interesting point

 

[gipper]

Roger Stone outlines the many discrepancies and anomalies of the shooting. The government is lying again.

Tyler Robinson: Charlie Kirk’s ‘Lone Nut’ Assassin or Another Federal Patsy?

 

[gipper]

So you’re right and literally everyone else is wrong?

Is he lying when he confessed?

The FBI is lying?

Every news outlet on the planet is lying?

The President is lying?

Hahahahahahahaha…


You got duped AGAIN!

 

[BothWings]

Conservative atheists are a part of the problem, but you are where you are at this stage of your life.

Part of the problem is people who consider people who don't share all of their beliefs a problem.

 

[BothWings]

Charlie did not feel his calling was to be another Billy Graham or anything close to that. He was never apologetic for his Christian beliefs however no matter how much they might have bored some people

His 'ministry' was one of opening conversations, promoting critical thinking, logic, reason to the issues and circumstances in today's society, replacing indoctrination and dogma and partisan propaganda with common sense.

While I agreed with Charlie's perspective far more than I disagreed, he held some religious perspective that I didn't/don't share and some sociopolitical perspective that I didn't/don't share, but I have never required anybody to agree with me in every respect in order to be a credible person.

I don't feel he should have to apologize for his Christian beliefs. I respect him. That's why I'm willing to listen to him even though I don't believe that part. It doesn't detract from the grassroots truths about society that he talked about.

 

[Foxfyre]

I don't feel he should have to apologize for his Christian beliefs. I respect him. That's why I'm willing to listen to him even though I don't believe that part. It doesn't detract from the grassroots truths about society that he talked about.

Charlie did not require anyone to agree with his beliefs. He was never there to condemn anyone but to have a conversation. He never backed down or compromised what he believed in but gently and respectfully used reason, logic, defensible facts to counter those who challenged his belief. They very rarely had anything other than propaganda to use in their arguments.

 

[BothWings]

Charlie did not require anyone to agree with his beliefs. He was never there to condemn anyone but to have a conversation. He never backed down or compromised what he believed in but gently and respectfully used reason, logic, defensible facts to counter those who challenged his belief. They very rarely had anything other than propaganda to use in their arguments.

I know, and liked that about him. But what I'm getting at is that if his dialogue shifted to be just about his religious beliefs I'd probably just leave. If he likes to add once in awhile that he believes his religion reinforces his other beliefs, I have no problem with that. That is just part of getting to know someone.

 

[toobfreak]

Charlie did not feel his calling was to be another Billy Graham or anything close to that. He was never apologetic for his Christian beliefs however no matter how much they might have bored some people
His 'ministry' was one of opening conversations, promoting critical thinking, logic, reason to the issues and circumstances in today's society, replacing indoctrination and dogma and partisan propaganda with common sense.
While I agreed with Charlie's perspective far more than I disagreed, he held some religious perspective that I didn't/don't share and some sociopolitical perspective that I didn't/don't share, but I have never required anybody to agree with me in every respect in order to be a credible person.

Someone used the term "prophet" to describer Kirk, and I thought that was a good descriptor...

 

[Foxfyre]

Someone used the term "prophet" to describer Kirk, and I thought that was a good descriptor...

Perhaps. I rather thought him to be a special kind of missionary, teacher, mentor.

 

[Hollie]

Look, you are absolutely delusional. Kirk was no Billy Graham, who brought a documented 3.2 million people to Christ over a span of decades. I highly doubt his death has resulted in a single soul changing their lives and committing it to Christ. Nor has he swayed anyone to conservatism, he was not a conservative, neither is Trump.

So, I go out on Sunday morning to do some shopping. Pretty early actually, I need cat food or the beasts are going to revolt. I sure don't want that. Driving back home I got some woman on my ass, like I can count the hairs on her chin in my rearview mirror, she is not two feet off my back bumper. I tap the brakes, she locks her van up, you can hear the tires squalling. She passes me in the turning lane and I can see her cussing me as she drives by. She then promptly climbs up the ass of the next car in front of her only to turn into, well, a damn church. Christian my damn ass, and the same holds true for most of the Charlie Kirk crowd and damn near all of the recent converts, as if there are any.

You stole that diatribe from an episode of The View, right?

 

[toobfreak]

Perhaps. I rather thought him to be a special kind of missionary, teacher, mentor.

I underestimated Kirk. I'd love to get some specimens of his handwriting. Not only did he have a tremendous drive combined with broad communication skills, broad business skills, but the guy was smart! So smart that he first taught himself at home sans formal education, then went out and routinely proved himself able to stand up to and usually beat badly, most any kid his age in any argument on any topic!

Charlie was a prophet, a teacher, an evangelist, a minister, a visionary, and a martyr who literally first devoted his life to, then finally sacrificed his life for a higher cause.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

He was NOT a prophet. He was a Christian martyr who died for the Gospel message