Cato Institute: Immigrants Are a Net Positive

[progressive hunter]

Ah, another favorite propaganda talking point. Everyone on welfare is lazy!!!

If only we could stop allowing non-thinking parrots from posting on the internet!

I didnt say everyone on welfare,, I specifically said those able to work,,

so youre doing another favorite tactic of the left,, changing what a person says so you can attack them,,

 

[Lesh]

If Cato is not distinguishing between legal and illegal immigrants, then this study is worthless.

Legal immigrants are a net positive. Illegal immigrants are a net negative.

You obviously did not read the article.

Cato absolutely did look at both legal and illegal immigrants.

Both commit crimes at a far lower rate than citizens

All immigrants in total have generated a net positive of 4.6 T

Illegals generate a net positive of 1.7 T

That’s NET for the dunces. It considers what they contribute monetarily against their costs

 

[Captain Creeper]

To the tune of over 4.6 trillion dollars

With illegals net positive 1.7 trillion

And both the legal and illegal commit crimes at a far lower rate than citizens

Cato is NOT. “Far left” org

They are a conservative think tank

Want To Reduce The Debt And Lower The Crime Rate? Bring In Even More Immigrants.

Contrary to Trump's claims, immigrants, even illegal ones, use fewer services and commit fewer crimes than native-born Americans, according to Cato Institute studies.

www.huffpost.com

Such bullshit

 

[sartre play]

Yes, honesty. Following laws is honest. I think wanting immigrants to follow our laws is perfectly reasonable.

Agree, Wanting people to follow our laws.
We have almost two million people in jail or prison.
Are you saying that most are not Americans?

 

[martybegan]

You obviously did not read the article.

Cato absolutely did look at both legal and illegal immigrants.

Both commit crimes at a far lower rate than citizens

All immigrants in total have generated a net positive of 4.6 T

Illegals generate a net positive of 1.7 T

That’s NET for the dunces. It considers what they contribute monetarily against their costs

crimes we know about, and are they using arrests or convictions?

Then plea deals and some places not reporting immigrant status makes that data even more useless.

Made up big numbers made up.

 

[Lesh]

There's always one key word missing from these think tank studies:
"LEGAL".
I have no problem with immigrants. We're a nation of 'em.
But there's a difference between someone who comes here LEGALLY, who wants to learn our culture and become part of it and learn English and fit in.
That's quite different from the ILLEGALS that have flooded our country the last few years, many of whom have zero interest in becoming part of the fabric of America. They see us as a free ride.
Well **** that.
And **** you too.

You do understand that immigration violations are misdemeanors right?

Not violent

Jay walking is a crime. Are you outraged over THAT? Why not?

The issue is what thy do here. Their value as opposed to their cost

Of course they are generally brown skinned. I hope that doesn’t “color” your outrage

 

[Frankenstein]

You obviously did not read the article.

Cato absolutely did look at both legal and illegal immigrants.

Both commit crimes at a far lower rate than citizens

All immigrants in total have generated a net positive of 4.6 T

Illegals generate a net positive of 1.7 T

That’s NET for the dunces. It considers what they contribute monetarily against their costs

If they are hear illegally they are breaking the law yet you count only what you consider to be the positive effect finacncially, the negative is they drain social services meant for citizens, and oh yeah, they ARE BREAKING THE FRIGGING LAW

 

[Lesh]

crimes we know about, and are they using arrests or convictions?

Then plea deals and some places not reporting immigrant status makes that data even more useless.

Made up big numbers made up.

Do citizens not get plea deals ? Do not the things you are so concerned about also pertain to citizens?

 

[Anomalism]

Are you saying that most are not Americans?

No. I'm saying immigrants should follow our laws when entering the country. That's not an unfair expectation.

 

[Frankenstein]

Agree, Wanting people to follow our laws.
We have almost two million people in jail or prison.
Are you saying that most are not Americans?

Of course they are that is a stupid argument! That does not mean illegals do not break the law, they do it walking across the border

 

[Lesh]

If they are hear illegally they are breaking the law yet you count only what you consider to be the positive effect finacncially, the negative is they drain social services meant for citizens, and oh yeah, they ARE BREAKING THE FRIGGING LAW

The “drain on social services” complaint was considered in the OP that you neglected to read

 

[martybegan]

Do citizens not get plea deals ? Do not the things you are so concerned about also pertain to citizens?

We aren't talking about citizens.

And blue cities are known for hiding as much info about their criminal illegals as possible. They even brag about it.

 

[Anomalism]

You do understand that immigration violations are misdemeanors right?

Not violent

Jay walking is a crime. Are you outraged over THAT? Why not?

The issue is what thy do here. Their value as opposed to their cost

Of course they are generally brown skinned. I hope that doesn’t “color” your outrage

We need to know who is entering our country. There needs to be checks and balances. The level of the law being broken is irrelevant. What's relevant is all civilized nations on Earth expect people to abide by these or similar rules. Expecting immigrants to immigrate through the appropriate systems is not unreasonable.

 

[Frankenstein]

The “drain on social services” complaint was considered in the OP that you neglected to read

So was the study on social services how can they even track that when there is no insurance, used or personal data obtained as far as whom they are they have no legal status, are you saying they ARE NOT A burden on medical facilities. See I know they are my son works in nursing and tells me horror stories about how many they see daily who have no legal status hear, and of course they have to treat them anyway. Now we are talking about kids in his case so I am glad they get help but it drains resources meant for citizens who can't afford medical help

 

[Robert W]

None of that nonsense is accurate

Back to bed old man

When I post, 99% of the time I am very accurate.
Look, you talk here like you are a teen, Get your mommy to give you new blankets.

 

[Lesh]

When I post, 99% of the time I am very accurate.
Look, you talk here like you are a teen, Get your mommy to give you new blankets.

Dude, your bedpan is full again. Call the attendant

 

[Frankenstein]

You do understand that immigration violations are misdemeanors right?

Not violent

Jay walking is a crime. Are you outraged over THAT? Why not?

The issue is what thy do here. Their value as opposed to their cost

Of course they are generally brown skinned. I hope that doesn’t “color” your outrage

Because J walking isnt murder or drug dealing you simp!

 

[M14 Shooter]

With illegals net positive 1.7 trillion

And this means Trump should not deports tens of millions of them - like Clinton, Obama, and Biden did - because...?

 

[Lesh]

So was the study on social services how can they even track that when there is no insurance, used or personal data obtained as far as whom they are they have no legal status, are you saying they ARE NOT A burden on medical facilities. See I know they are my son works in nursing and tells me horror stories about how many they see daily who have no legal status hear, and of course they have to treat them anyway. Now we are talking about kids in his case so I am glad they get help but it drains resources meant for citizens who can't afford medical help

Again.read the OP

You did not

 

[Frankenstein]

Again.read the OP

You did not

Sit and spin I have evidence