Cato Institute: Immigrants Are a Net Positive

[Toddsterpatriot]

Then what does this mean? "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes." - why was it necessary to include that? Was that just "vice signalling" to the other MAGA drones, to show that in reality you think it's funny that these people were killed and, ultimately, that they deserved it?

Then what does this mean? "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes."

Stupidity hurts, sometimes it is fatal.

in reality you think it's funny that these people were killed

I think they were stupid. For a bad cause. And now they are dead.

 

[Hafar1014]

Illegals are invading and attacking America

 

[dblack]

Wrong....Politics is downhill from culture...If the morally rotted carcass that was the Weimar republic wouldn't prove that to you, what would?

The Fabian far left seized control of the culture, and is why we're living with the sewer that is "culture" today.

Of course. Government should dictate culture. It's the only way to ensure we're doing it right. .

 

[Hafar1014]

Of course. Government should dictate culture. It's the only way to ensure we're doing it right. .

Religion creates culture. Government culture is the welfare state

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

In the minds of tards like you, someone exercising his free speech and being totally non-violent while talking smack to an unqualified thug deserves to be shot on sight. Anyone who speaks out against Dear Leader is a "domestic terrorist".

You're welcome. Glad to help.

In the minds of tards like you, someone exercising his free speech and being totally non-violent while talking smack to an unqualified thug deserves to be shot on sight.

If that were the case tens of thousands of leftards would be dead.

 

[Godboy]

To the tune of over 4.6 trillion dollars

With illegals net positive 1.7 trillion

And both the legal and illegal commit crimes at a far lower rate than citizens

Cato is NOT. “Far left” org

They are a conservative think tank

Want To Reduce The Debt And Lower The Crime Rate? Bring In Even More Immigrants.

Contrary to Trump's claims, immigrants, even illegal ones, use fewer services and commit fewer crimes than native-born Americans, according to Cato Institute studies.

www.huffpost.com

They are a libertarian group and extremely biased on this particular subject. They also incorrectly collected dtata.


Back in October 2022, the Center used data from the Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS) to show that illegal immigrants in the state are convicted of crimes at higher rates than previously estimated by other researchers, including Alex Nowrasteh at the Cato Institute. The older studies understated illegal immigrant crime because they failed to appreciate the time it takes to identify illegals in custody. Some illegals are identified immediately upon arrest; others are identified later in prison; and still others may elude detection altogether if they are not in custody long enough. Once we added the illegals identified in prison to the illegals identified at arrest, their homicide and sexual assault conviction rates appeared to be greater than the Texas average.

With illegal immigrant crime returning to the national spotlight, Nowrasteh now admits that his initial analysis was wrong because it missed some illegals identified in prison, but he couples his mea culpa with a new charge: “The data that DPS gave CIS were organized into categories that double‐counted some individuals, leading to a higher number of illegal immigrant homicide convictions.”

That’s false. There was no double-counting in the data we received from DPS. DPS sent us an “illegal” column, which counts illegals identified at arrest, and a separate “prison” column, which counts illegals identified in prison. As Chrystal Davila at DPS explained to us in an email on October 19, 2022, those columns do not overlap:

Data request results that include an illegal column and a prison column will not count the same person twice. If they are in the illegal column, they have been identified by DHS through PEP, and possibly in prison. If they are in the prison column, they have only been identified while in prison with TDCJ. [Emphasis added.]

Cato’s Brazenly False Claim About Our Illegal Immigrant Crime Research

There was no double-counting in the data we received from DPS.

cis.org

 

[Godboy]

People used to wonder how the German people devolved to the point as blithely accepting the mass murder of Jews and other "undesirables".

We now see in real time how it happens.


PHASE I:
MAGA: We're just going to deport the violent illegals. Murderers and rapists and such.

AMERICA: Okay, we're totally cool with that.



PHASE II:
MAGA: Just kidding. We're going to deport all the illegals, even the ones who pick the crops which put food on your table.

AMERICA: Hmmmm...


PHASE III:
MAGA: We are not stopping there. Sorry. We're also going to grab legal immigrant college kids off the street who use their free speech to speak out against the genocide in Gaza.

AMERICA: Not cool, man.



PHASE IV:
MAGA: Oh, yeah? Well, we're removing those who are here under protected status, too!

AMERICA: What the hell is going on here?


PHASE V:
MAGA: We're also going to violate the Constitution and revoke birthright citizenship.

AMERICA: Looks like its time for a nationwide record-setting No Kings protest.


PHASE VI:
SUPREME COURT: We are revoking the protection granted to our citizens since our Founding which protected them from abuses by the police.
TRUMP: Our police now have total immunity from prosecution.


PHASE VII:
MAGA: Vee vill also henzzzfort ban zee immigraztion of peoplez fr-r-r-rom zhitzhole countreez!

AMERICA: We disapprove in record numbers.


PHASE VIII:
MAGA: And now, we are going to remove the citizenship of people who piss us off with their words!


PHASE IX:
GESTAPO: Now we are brutalizing and murdering US citizens with total immunity!

When have you EVER heard a conservative say "I dont want to deport illegals that committed no crime other than entering the country illegally"? Democrats shovel MILLIONS into the country for political power, and you think that we only want to get rid of the worst of the worst? Are you ******* crazy dude? EVERY ******* LAST ONE OF THEM has to go!

 

[BackAgain]

I've been pointing this out for a very long time.

But reality does not matter to the cult. It does not impinge on their training one bit.

So what? Let’s pretend for a moment that there is some ephemeral $1.7 trillion worth of added value by dint of having illegals here.

What follows from that premise? That our immigration laws are no longer our laws? Or, are you suggesting that that alleged added economic value means that we ought to change all of our immigration laws?

I wonder if any of our liberals here would ever be able or willing to point out the inherent flaws in that contention?

 

[Hafar1014]

Net positive

 

[g5000]

So what? Let’s pretend for a moment that there is some ephemeral $1.7 trillion worth of added value by dint of having illegals here.

What follows from that premise? That our immigration laws are no longer our laws? Or, are you suggesting that that alleged added economic value means that we ought to change all of our immigration laws?

I wonder if any of our liberals here would ever be able or willing to point out the inherent flaws in that contention?

I wonder how many more hundreds of times I will have to post the fact our immigration laws are outdated before you get it. Our laws are broken. Our quota system is seriously broken and not supplying enough people to meet the labor demand.

Everyone in Washington knows this.

Everyone.

Several attempts at immigration reform have been made since the dawn of this century. George Bush tried, but was stopped by the bigots in the Republican party. House Republican Whip Eric Cantor tried and was primaried out of office for his trouble. Even Little Marco Rubio has tried.

You see, as I told some other person earlier, you are literally outnumbered by more than 2-to-1 on this issue. A supermajority of Americans want a path to legal status provided to our illegals.

Because most Americans, including Republicans, have common sense, unlike the tiny minority of racist MAGAs.

 

[g5000]

There was once a time when there was a free flow of immigrant labor in and out of the United States during crop season.

No one had a problem with it.

America greatly benefitted from it.

 

[Billiejeens]

You’re just too stupid to actually look at the facts.

How a city in Nebraska is recovering after the state's largest worksite immigration raid

Omaha is trying to forge ahead following the raid's chilling effect on the local workforce and the community at large.

www.nbcnews.com

G's Echo chamber will not allow that.

 

[Robert W]

I wonder how many more hundreds of times I will have to post the fact our immigration laws are outdated before you get it. Our laws are broken. Our quota system is seriously broken and not supplying enough people to meet the labor demand.

Everyone in Washington knows this.

Everyone.

Several attempts at immigration reform have been made since the dawn of this century. George Bush tried, but was stopped by the bigots in the Republican party. House Republican Whip Eric Cantor tried and was primaried out of office for his trouble. Even Little Marco Rubio has tried.

You see, as I told some other person earlier, you are literally outnumbered by more than 2-to-1 on this issue. A supermajority of Americans want a path to legal status provided to our illegals.

Because most Americans, including Republicans, have common sense, unlike the tiny minority of racist MAGAs.

We are in the machine age, not the former "get illegals in here" age.

This married couple farms corn and has but one employee when they need him.

 

[Hafar1014]

I wonder how many more hundreds of times I will have to post the fact our immigration laws are outdated before you get it. Our laws are broken. Our quota system is seriously broken and not supplying enough people to meet the labor demand.

Everyone in Washington knows this.

Everyone.

Several attempts at immigration reform have been made since the dawn of this century. George Bush tried, but was stopped by the bigots in the Republican party. House Republican Whip Eric Cantor tried and was primaried out of office for his trouble. Even Little Marco Rubio has tried.

You see, as I told some other person earlier, you are literally outnumbered by more than 2-to-1 on this issue. A supermajority of Americans want a path to legal status provided to our illegals.

Because most Americans, including Republicans, have common sense, unlike the tiny minority of racist MAGAs.

Trump solved that prpblem

 

[BackAgain]

I wonder how many more hundreds of times I will have to post the fact our immigration laws are outdated before you get it.

Irrelevant. Nobody is obliged to agree with your churlish mindless thinking.

Our laws are broken.

Some are. Largely due to the Democraps.

Our quota system is seriously broken and not supplying enough people to meet the labor demand.

You’re apparently conflating legal immigration laws and rules with those concerning illegal immigrarion.

If you ever get your head out of your ass, and peek around a bit, even a retard like you might eventually figure out that illegal immigration is not the same as immigration.

Everyone in Washington knows this.

Nope. You happen to believe it. But that’s not the same thing.

Everyone.

False.

Several attempts at immigration reform have been made since the dawn of this century. George Bush tried, but was stopped by the bigots in the Republican party. House Republican Whip Eric Cantor tried and was primaried out of office for his trouble. Even Little Marco Rubio has tried.

Again: the immigration laws are often changed. Bubba Clinton oversaw a huge change in our nation’s immigration laws.

You see, as I told some other person earlier, you are literally outnumbered by more than 2-to-1 on this issue.

You don’t see, but should, that you can’t even identify with any precision what “the” issue is.

A supermajority of Americans want a path to legal status provided to our illegals.

Nonsense.

And, in any event, periodically giving illegal aliens here any “path”’to citizenship is a terrible idea. This is true even if the majority favors it. Also, thankfully, this nation’s politics isn’t governed by “majority rule.” We are not a democracy. Thank God.

Because most Americans, including Republicans, have common sense, unlike the tiny minority of racist MAGAs.

No. Disagreeing with your position is actually the hallmark of common sense.

 

[Robert W]

There was once a time when there was a free flow of immigrant labor in and out of the United States during crop season.

No one had a problem with it.

America greatly benefitted from it.

Legal aliens have long had the bracero program and even today, illegal aliens get permits to work in the USA, making them legally here. But they must return to their country of origin. Biden flooded this nation with alien's period.

 

[Robert W]

There was once a time when there was a free flow of immigrant labor in and out of the United States during crop season.

No one had a problem with it.

America greatly benefitted from it.

That must have been in the 1800s since I find no evidence of it in modern times. Even getting new slaves was banned in the early 1800s.

 

[Billiejeens]

Nope. Hint: it's possible to support the law, while opposing police state enforcement of the law.

Double Hint - Without Law Enforcement, Laws are meaningless

 

[Robert W]

I wonder how many more hundreds of times I will have to post the fact our immigration laws are outdated before you get it. Our laws are broken. Our quota system is seriously broken and not supplying enough people to meet the labor demand.

Everyone in Washington knows this.

Everyone.

Several attempts at immigration reform have been made since the dawn of this century. George Bush tried, but was stopped by the bigots in the Republican party. House Republican Whip Eric Cantor tried and was primaried out of office for his trouble. Even Little Marco Rubio has tried.

You see, as I told some other person earlier, you are literally outnumbered by more than 2-to-1 on this issue. A supermajority of Americans want a path to legal status provided to our illegals.

Because most Americans, including Republicans, have common sense, unlike the tiny minority of racist MAGAs.

You don't remember Obama.

 

[Billiejeens]

There was once a time when there was a free flow of immigrant labor in and out of the United States during crop season.

No one had a problem with it.

America greatly benefitted from it.

Just for you G

crop season.
AKA - seasonal workers.