Canada's middle class Is better than ours. This is despite...

[Dale Smith]

We've got 12 million after decades, and 94% of adult male illegals work.

Oh, now that's a real boost for American jobs, isn't it?

Your GOP has refused a good SS ID card for years, the only way to end illegal immigration, dupe. They mainly do jobs Americans want and are a great deal. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Hate and walls for the dupes...

We've got 12 million after decades, and 94% of adult male illegals work.

Oh, now that's a real boost for American jobs, isn't it?

Your GOP has refused a good SS ID card for years, the only way to end illegal immigration, dupe. They mainly do jobs Americans want and are a great deal. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Hate and walls for the dupes...

Yeah, there wasn't any homes built, no landscaping was done, no bricks were laid and no roads were built until we had this massive influx of cheap labor. You really are a stupid ****. The illegal influx has done the same thing to honest labor that Wal-Mart has done to non-skilled labor. They have driven down wages while this fiat currency loses more and more value every year. How many illegals are you taking into your home, Franco? You believe that there shouldn't even be a border? You don't believe in the sovereignty of a nation and that the people should have no say over the immigration policies that will affect their communities? Have you taken a good look at Europe lately? I am getting the impression that you really are a globalist commie because "nationalism" seems to be a dirty word to you.

 

[francoHFW]

If they're making huge profits and pay nothing? When the richest end up with all the new wealth? Duh.

The top 10% of wage earners in this country pay nearly 70% of all collected income taxes. By liberal standards, 70% is not enough. So what is enough to satisfy a welfare state liberal?

"How much is YOUR fair share of what somebody else worked for?"
Thomas Sowell

Listen, stupid . The rich have been making out like bandits and the middle class and poor are losing for 35 years now. IDIOT. It's NOT their attitude DUH.

 

[Dale Smith]

1) Canada having a higher minimum wage

2) Canada having a higher tax rate on the wealthy

3) Canada having Widespread unions

4) Canada having strong bank regulations

5) Canada having free healthcare

Canada still has a central bank that creates credit out of thin air and taxes the masses. Canada doesn't have a military industrial complex monster to feed either....so your comparison is like apples to oranges.

There is no country in the world that has a military industrial complex monster except the USA.

Everything he has said is correct. The difference is that Canada has chosen to invest in its people, while the US has chosen to invest in corporate profits.

Because the socialists in Canada know that America has to have their back. They are still under the thumb of the banking oligarchs and for the life of me? I don't understand how you can't grasp that very salient fact.

Nothing like here Big money corrupt GOP country. Who the hell are we protecting them from? Thanks GOP Military industrial complex bs....

The military industrial complex is a "GOP" thing????? REALLY? Once again you demonstrate your ignorance.......this would be funny if it wasn't so tragic.

 

[doctordog]

1) Canada having a higher minimum wage

2) Canada having a higher tax rate on the wealthy

3) Canada having Widespread unions

4) Canada having strong bank regulations

5) Canada having free healthcare

5 is a god damn lie. If you are a working canadian making around $100k you pay approximately .54 cents of every dollar for that healthcare that you can't use for up to a year when it is a serious procedure needed. Canada has treated citizens so bad for so long now the lives of our cattle would be an improvement for them.

 

[Dale Smith]

If they're making huge profits and pay nothing? When the richest end up with all the new wealth? Duh.

The top 10% of wage earners in this country pay nearly 70% of all collected income taxes. By liberal standards, 70% is not enough. So what is enough to satisfy a welfare state liberal?

"How much is YOUR fair share of what somebody else worked for?"
Thomas Sowell

Listen, stupid . The rich have been making out like bandits and the middle class and poor are losing for 35 years now. IDIOT. It's NOT their attitude DUH.

No, the middle class has been losing since 1970 under leftard presidents, leftard controlled house and senates, neocon presidents, neocon controlled house and senates....see a pattern here, dumb ass? The leftard clown posse talks a much better game than they play....always have. The demise of the middle class was planned by the oligarchs that really run and own this corporate entity that you lovingly refer to as your "gubermint".......

 

[francoHFW]

We've got 12 million after decades, and 94% of adult male illegals work.

Oh, now that's a real boost for American jobs, isn't it?

Your GOP has refused a good SS ID card for years, the only way to end illegal immigration, dupe. They mainly do jobs Americans want and are a great deal. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Hate and walls for the dupes...

We've got 12 million after decades, and 94% of adult male illegals work.

Oh, now that's a real boost for American jobs, isn't it?

Your GOP has refused a good SS ID card for years, the only way to end illegal immigration, dupe. They mainly do jobs Americans want and are a great deal. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Hate and walls for the dupes...

Yeah, there wasn't any homes built, no landscaping was done, no bricks were laid and no roads were built until we had this massive influx of cheap labor. You really are a stupid ****. The illegal influx has done the same thing to honest labor that Wal-Mart has done to non-skilled labor. They have driven down wages while this fiat currency loses more and more value every year. How many illegals are you taking into your home, Franco? You believe that there shouldn't even be a border? You don't believe in the sovereignty of a nation and that the people should have no say over the immigration policies that will affect their communities? Have you taken a good look at Europe lately? I am getting the impression that you really are a globalist commie because "nationalism" seems to be a dirty word to you.

The only way to stop illegal immigration is a good SS ID card, which the GOP won't do, hater dupe. Or you can let the GOP keep this farce going. Deal.

 

[francoHFW]

1) Canada having a higher minimum wage

2) Canada having a higher tax rate on the wealthy

3) Canada having Widespread unions

4) Canada having strong bank regulations

5) Canada having free healthcare

5 is a god damn lie. If you are a working canadian making around $100k you pay approximately .54 cents of every dollar for that healthcare that you can't use for up to a year when it is a serious procedure needed. Canada has treated citizens so bad for so long now the lives of our cattle would be an improvement for them.

Yet they love theirs 3X as much as we do, ignorant dupe.

 

[doctordog]

We've got 12 million after decades, and 94% of adult male illegals work.

Oh, now that's a real boost for American jobs, isn't it?

Your GOP has refused a good SS ID card for years, the only way to end illegal immigration, dupe. They mainly do jobs Americans want and are a great deal. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Hate and walls for the dupes...

We've got 12 million after decades, and 94% of adult male illegals work.

Oh, now that's a real boost for American jobs, isn't it?

Your GOP has refused a good SS ID card for years, the only way to end illegal immigration, dupe. They mainly do jobs Americans want and are a great deal. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Hate and walls for the dupes...

Yeah, there wasn't any homes built, no landscaping was done, no bricks were laid and no roads were built until we had this massive influx of cheap labor. You really are a stupid ****. The illegal influx has done the same thing to honest labor that Wal-Mart has done to non-skilled labor. They have driven down wages while this fiat currency loses more and more value every year. How many illegals are you taking into your home, Franco? You believe that there shouldn't even be a border? You don't believe in the sovereignty of a nation and that the people should have no say over the immigration policies that will affect their communities? Have you taken a good look at Europe lately? I am getting the impression that you really are a globalist commie because "nationalism" seems to be a dirty word to you.

The only way to stop illegal immigration is a good SS ID card, which the GOP won't do, hater dupe. Or you can let the GOP keep this farce going. Deal.

why not combine them with voter ID cards? LOL

 

[Dale Smith]

We've got 12 million after decades, and 94% of adult male illegals work.

Oh, now that's a real boost for American jobs, isn't it?

Your GOP has refused a good SS ID card for years, the only way to end illegal immigration, dupe. They mainly do jobs Americans want and are a great deal. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Hate and walls for the dupes...

We've got 12 million after decades, and 94% of adult male illegals work.

Oh, now that's a real boost for American jobs, isn't it?

Your GOP has refused a good SS ID card for years, the only way to end illegal immigration, dupe. They mainly do jobs Americans want and are a great deal. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Hate and walls for the dupes...

Yeah, there wasn't any homes built, no landscaping was done, no bricks were laid and no roads were built until we had this massive influx of cheap labor. You really are a stupid ****. The illegal influx has done the same thing to honest labor that Wal-Mart has done to non-skilled labor. They have driven down wages while this fiat currency loses more and more value every year. How many illegals are you taking into your home, Franco? You believe that there shouldn't even be a border? You don't believe in the sovereignty of a nation and that the people should have no say over the immigration policies that will affect their communities? Have you taken a good look at Europe lately? I am getting the impression that you really are a globalist commie because "nationalism" seems to be a dirty word to you.

The only way to stop illegal immigration is a good SS ID card, which the GOP won't do, hater dupe. Or you can let the GOP keep this farce going. Deal.

Having a S.S card would entitle these illegals to benefits that they didn't earn or pay enough into the system that would sustain them so they would have to further suck off the public teat, moron. They shouldn't even BE here....how ******* hard is that for you to comprehend? Mexico has a wall and they treat treat non-Mexican illegals like shit....see a double standard here???

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Listen, stupid . The rich have been making out like bandits and the middle class and poor are losing for 35 years now. IDIOT. It's NOT their attitude DUH.

How can we have any middle-class with a President that has 95 million Americans of working age not working nor looking for work? There are millions of jobs out there that Americans won't take because they do better sitting home on their Obama phones and getting fat on food stamps.

And just how do the rich "make out like bandits?" Because the government doesn't take more from them? And even if they did, how would that help one poor or middle-class person?

 

[doctordog]

1) Canada having a higher minimum wage

2) Canada having a higher tax rate on the wealthy

3) Canada having Widespread unions

4) Canada having strong bank regulations

5) Canada having free healthcare

5 is a god damn lie. If you are a working canadian making around $100k you pay approximately .54 cents of every dollar for that healthcare that you can't use for up to a year when it is a serious procedure needed. Canada has treated citizens so bad for so long now the lives of our cattle would be an improvement for them.

Yet they love theirs 3X as much as we do, ignorant dupe.

Working Americans loved their 5 times more that Canada before ACA, ten years from now there will thousands of murders thanks to ACA. I have associates in Canada that pay that ridiculous tax and then can't use it. They come here and pay out of pocket expenses for good healthcare. It is you that is used to being programmed making you the ignorant **** in this discussion.

 

[francoHFW]

..and invest in you dupes and the country, jackass. Works every time. Ay caramba.

Yeah, tax corps and let the government invest, we need more Solyndras!!!!

Works every time.

DERP!

one fail out of 36 ain't bad, dupe.

Right.
Obama's batting average is much worse than that.

Across the entire loan program there have been five defaulted loans: two solar panel manufacturers, Solyndra Inc. and Abound Manufacturing Solar LLC; two green vehicle programs, Fisker Automotive Inc. and the Vehicle Production Group LLC; and one energy storage project, Beacon Power.

Obama-backed green energy failures leave taxpayers with $2.2 billion tab, audit finds

Then there's the true story, ADHD dupes...After Solyndra Loss, U.S. Energy Loan Program Turning A Profit

Overall, the agency has loaned $34.2 billion to a variety of businesses, under a program designed to speed up development of clean-energy technology. Companies have defaulted on $780 million of that — a loss rate of 2.28 percent. The agency also has collected $810 million in interest payments, putting the program $30 million in the black.

Ummmmm.....collecting $30 million interest on $34.2 billion in loans over a 7 year period does not make you profitable. But thanks for a great example of liberal bad math.

Just like Chevy Volts cost 278k each, right, dupe? Counting R+D, early on? Idiots.

 

[francoHFW]

If they're making huge profits and pay nothing? When the richest end up with all the new wealth? Duh.

The top 10% of wage earners in this country pay nearly 70% of all collected income taxes. By liberal standards, 70% is not enough. So what is enough to satisfy a welfare state liberal?

"How much is YOUR fair share of what somebody else worked for?"
Thomas Sowell

Listen, stupid . The rich have been making out like bandits and the middle class and poor are losing for 35 years now. IDIOT. It's NOT their attitude DUH.

No, the middle class has been losing since 1970 under leftard presidents, leftard controlled house and senates, neocon presidents, neocon controlled house and senates....see a pattern here, dumb ass? The leftard clown posse talks a much better game than they play....always have. The demise of the middle class was planned by the oligarchs that really run and own this corporate entity that you lovingly refer to as your "gubermint".......

Wrong again, fool figure it out DUH:
The Demise of the American Middle Class In Numbers.

Over the past 35 years the American dream has gradually disappeared. The process was slow, so most people didn’t notice. They just worked a few more hours, borrowed a little more and cut back on non-essentials. But looking at the numbers and comparing them over long time periods, it is obvious that things have changed drastically. Here are the details:

1. WORKERS PRODUCE MORE BUT THE GAINS GO TO BUSINESS.

Over the past 63 years worker productivity has grown by 2.0% per year.

But after 1980, workers received a smaller share every year. Labor’s share of income (1992 = 100%):

1950 = 101%
1960 = 105%
1970 = 105%
1980 = 105% – Reagan
1990 = 100%
2000 = 96%
2007 = 92%

A 13% drop since 1980

2. THE TOP 10% GET A LARGER SHARE.

Share of National Income going to Top 10%:

1950 = 35%
1960 = 34%
1970 = 34%
1980 = 34% – Reagan
1990 = 40%
2000 = 47%
2007 = 50%

An increase of 16% since Reagan.

3. WORKERS COMPENSATED FOR THE LOSS OF INCOME BY SPENDING THEIR SAVINGS.

The savings Rose up to Reagan and fell during and after.

1950 = 6.0%
1960 = 7.0%
1970 = 8.5%
1980 = 10.0% – Reagan
1982 = 11.2% – Peak
1990 = 7.0%
2000 = 2.0%
2006 = -1.1% (Negative = withdrawing from savings)

A 12.3% drop after Reagan.

4. WORKERS ALSO BORROWED TO MAKE UP FOR THE LOSS.

Household Debt as percentage of GDP:

1965 = 46%
1970 = 45%
1980 = 50% – Reagan
1990 = 61%
2000 = 69%
2007 = 95%

A 45% increase after 1980.

5. SO THE GAP BETWEEN THE RICHEST AND THE POOREST HAS GROWN.

Gap Between the Share of Capital Income earned by the top 1%
and the bottom 80%:

1980 = 10%
2003 = 56%

A 5.6 times increase.

6. AND THE AMERICAN DREAM IS GONE.

The Probably of Moving Up from the Bottom 40% to the Top 40%:

1945 = 12%
1958 = 6%
1990 = 3%
2000 = 2%

A 10% Decrease.

Links:

1 = ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/special.requests/pf/totalf1.txt
1 = https://www.clevelandfed.org/Research/PolicyDis/No7Nov04.pdf
1 = Clipboard01.jpg (image)
2 – Congratulations to Emmanuel Saez
3 = http://www.demos.org/inequality/images/charts/uspersonalsaving_thumb.gif
3 = U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA)
4 = Federated Prudent Bear Fund (A): Overview
4 = FRB: Z.1 Release--Financial Accounts of the United States--June 9, 2016
5/6 = 15 Mind-Blowing Facts About Wealth And Inequality In America

Overview = http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/2010062415/reagan-revolution-home-roost-charts

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The only way to stop illegal immigration is a good SS ID card, which the GOP won't do, hater dupe. Or you can let the GOP keep this farce going. Deal.

No, the only way to stop illegal immigration is with a proper deterrent. A five year minimum prison sentence for anybody caught here illegally would stop most of the illegal immigration. It would also make most of them head for the border trying to get the hell out of this country.

But instead, liberal states cater to illegals. Liberal politicians refused to sign on to Kate's Law which would imprison deported felons who come back into the country. They give them drivers licenses and make laws to benefit illegals.

But of course, that can't be it. It must be because Republicans didn't want SS cards.

 

[Dale Smith]

Yeah, tax corps and let the government invest, we need more Solyndras!!!!

Works every time.

DERP!

one fail out of 36 ain't bad, dupe.

Right.
Obama's batting average is much worse than that.

Across the entire loan program there have been five defaulted loans: two solar panel manufacturers, Solyndra Inc. and Abound Manufacturing Solar LLC; two green vehicle programs, Fisker Automotive Inc. and the Vehicle Production Group LLC; and one energy storage project, Beacon Power.

Obama-backed green energy failures leave taxpayers with $2.2 billion tab, audit finds

Then there's the true story, ADHD dupes...After Solyndra Loss, U.S. Energy Loan Program Turning A Profit

Overall, the agency has loaned $34.2 billion to a variety of businesses, under a program designed to speed up development of clean-energy technology. Companies have defaulted on $780 million of that — a loss rate of 2.28 percent. The agency also has collected $810 million in interest payments, putting the program $30 million in the black.

Ummmmm.....collecting $30 million interest on $34.2 billion in loans over a 7 year period does not make you profitable. But thanks for a great example of liberal bad math.

Just like Chevy Volts cost 278k each, right, dupe? Counting R+D, early on? Idiots.

So how is electricity generated to "charge" these cars, moron? They use coal and oil to turn the generators that produce the electricity to charge the batteries. Regardless, free energy and the technology for hydrogen fueled cars has been around since the days of Nikola Tesla. Your masters are the ones keeping this petroleum fuel based system in place but you are not smart enough to do the research or the work to have the knowledge I do.....you depend on "leftardism" to do your thinking for you.

 

[francoHFW]

Listen, stupid . The rich have been making out like bandits and the middle class and poor are losing for 35 years now. IDIOT. It's NOT their attitude DUH.

How can we have any middle-class with a President that has 95 million Americans of working age not working nor looking for work? There are millions of jobs out there that Americans won't take because they do better sitting home on their Obama phones and getting fat on food stamps.

And just how do the rich "make out like bandits?" Because the government doesn't take more from them? And even if they did, how would that help one poor or middle-class person?

This is still a Reaganist economy, chump. WAY too much. Yes I know your tenants are whacked. They could go to training for the good jobs going begging, some corrupt party won't do it. STUPID. I know- a tax cut for the rich! Dupes.

Hike taxes on the bloated rich, lower on the rest not as much. Duh. Read something.

 

[Deleted member 53821]

Canada's middle class is better off than ours despite the fact Obama isn't president over there. I wonder why...

 

[francoHFW]

The only way to stop illegal immigration is a good SS ID card, which the GOP won't do, hater dupe. Or you can let the GOP keep this farce going. Deal.

No, the only way to stop illegal immigration is with a proper deterrent. A five year minimum prison sentence for anybody caught here illegally would stop most of the illegal immigration. It would also make most of them head for the border trying to get the hell out of this country.

But instead, liberal states cater to illegals. Liberal politicians refused to sign on to Kate's Law which would imprison deported felons who come back into the country. They give them drivers licenses and make laws to benefit illegals.

But of course, that can't be it. It must be because Republicans didn't want SS cards.

I understand you blindly hate illegals, ignorant brainwashed hater, but that isn't going to happen. It's unAmerican, fascist in fact. So the farce GOES ON, dupe. Pubs love it...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yeah, tax corps and let the government invest, we need more Solyndras!!!!

Works every time.

DERP!

one fail out of 36 ain't bad, dupe.

Right.
Obama's batting average is much worse than that.

Across the entire loan program there have been five defaulted loans: two solar panel manufacturers, Solyndra Inc. and Abound Manufacturing Solar LLC; two green vehicle programs, Fisker Automotive Inc. and the Vehicle Production Group LLC; and one energy storage project, Beacon Power.

Obama-backed green energy failures leave taxpayers with $2.2 billion tab, audit finds

Then there's the true story, ADHD dupes...After Solyndra Loss, U.S. Energy Loan Program Turning A Profit

Overall, the agency has loaned $34.2 billion to a variety of businesses, under a program designed to speed up development of clean-energy technology. Companies have defaulted on $780 million of that — a loss rate of 2.28 percent. The agency also has collected $810 million in interest payments, putting the program $30 million in the black.

Ummmmm.....collecting $30 million interest on $34.2 billion in loans over a 7 year period does not make you profitable. But thanks for a great example of liberal bad math.

Just like Chevy Volts cost 278k each, right, dupe? Counting R+D, early on? Idiots.

Ignoring interest, ******* lib dupe. Idiot.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

If they're making huge profits and pay nothing? When the richest end up with all the new wealth? Duh.

The top 10% of wage earners in this country pay nearly 70% of all collected income taxes. By liberal standards, 70% is not enough. So what is enough to satisfy a welfare state liberal?

"How much is YOUR fair share of what somebody else worked for?"
Thomas Sowell

Listen, stupid . The rich have been making out like bandits and the middle class and poor are losing for 35 years now. IDIOT. It's NOT their attitude DUH.

No, the middle class has been losing since 1970 under leftard presidents, leftard controlled house and senates, neocon presidents, neocon controlled house and senates....see a pattern here, dumb ass? The leftard clown posse talks a much better game than they play....always have. The demise of the middle class was planned by the oligarchs that really run and own this corporate entity that you lovingly refer to as your "gubermint".......

Wrong again, fool figure it out DUH:
The Demise of the American Middle Class In Numbers.

Over the past 35 years the American dream has gradually disappeared. The process was slow, so most people didn’t notice. They just worked a few more hours, borrowed a little more and cut back on non-essentials. But looking at the numbers and comparing them over long time periods, it is obvious that things have changed drastically. Here are the details:

1. WORKERS PRODUCE MORE BUT THE GAINS GO TO BUSINESS.

Over the past 63 years worker productivity has grown by 2.0% per year.

But after 1980, workers received a smaller share every year. Labor’s share of income (1992 = 100%):

1950 = 101%
1960 = 105%
1970 = 105%
1980 = 105% – Reagan
1990 = 100%
2000 = 96%
2007 = 92%

A 13% drop since 1980

2. THE TOP 10% GET A LARGER SHARE.

Share of National Income going to Top 10%:

1950 = 35%
1960 = 34%
1970 = 34%
1980 = 34% – Reagan
1990 = 40%
2000 = 47%
2007 = 50%

An increase of 16% since Reagan.

3. WORKERS COMPENSATED FOR THE LOSS OF INCOME BY SPENDING THEIR SAVINGS.

The savings Rose up to Reagan and fell during and after.

1950 = 6.0%
1960 = 7.0%
1970 = 8.5%
1980 = 10.0% – Reagan
1982 = 11.2% – Peak
1990 = 7.0%
2000 = 2.0%
2006 = -1.1% (Negative = withdrawing from savings)

A 12.3% drop after Reagan.

4. WORKERS ALSO BORROWED TO MAKE UP FOR THE LOSS.

Household Debt as percentage of GDP:

1965 = 46%
1970 = 45%
1980 = 50% – Reagan
1990 = 61%
2000 = 69%
2007 = 95%

A 45% increase after 1980.

5. SO THE GAP BETWEEN THE RICHEST AND THE POOREST HAS GROWN.

Gap Between the Share of Capital Income earned by the top 1%
and the bottom 80%:

1980 = 10%
2003 = 56%

A 5.6 times increase.

6. AND THE AMERICAN DREAM IS GONE.

The Probably of Moving Up from the Bottom 40% to the Top 40%:

1945 = 12%
1958 = 6%
1990 = 3%
2000 = 2%

A 10% Decrease.

Links:

1 = ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/special.requests/pf/totalf1.txt
1 = https://www.clevelandfed.org/Research/PolicyDis/No7Nov04.pdf
1 = Clipboard01.jpg (image)
2 – Congratulations to Emmanuel Saez
3 = http://www.demos.org/inequality/images/charts/uspersonalsaving_thumb.gif
3 = U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA)
4 = Federated Prudent Bear Fund (A): Overview
4 = FRB: Z.1 Release--Financial Accounts of the United States--June 9, 2016
5/6 = 15 Mind-Blowing Facts About Wealth And Inequality In America

Overview = http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/2010062415/reagan-revolution-home-roost-charts

Over the past 63 years worker productivity has grown by 2.0% per year.

Damn those rich business owners for investing in all that productivity enhancing equipment.