Debate Now Can You Choose To Be Gay?

[task0778]

I am pretty much convinced people who are gay are born gay.

LOL, I am pretty much convinced to be unconvinced. To date, science tells us they have not found a 'gay' gene, and it might not be that simple. Maybe there is some sort of combination of genes that lends itself to differences in sexual preferences, and maybe not. How can we tell if a person was born gay or it was instilled by his/her environment? Some people are horny as hell, right? Is that genetic too? That entire issue of sexual preference/attitudes would appear to be very subjective.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The truth is that sexuality exists on a spectrum. Some men are more feminine and some women are more masculine. Despite this, society has always promoted natal gender, why?

Because we have always been more ignorant.

Now we understand that it isn't harmful. That's it is natural and is expected.

 

[Foxfyre]

The truth is that sexuality exists on a spectrum. Some men are more feminine and some women are more masculine. Despite this, society has always promoted natal gender, why? Because sexuality is also part societal conditioning. In the past a 'Tom boy' was recognized as a girl who enjoyed doing boy stuff but, was still basically still female. Men who were more feminine (but also natal male) were attracted to this type of woman. Today, even the mention that a kid is 'uncomfortable' with their sex is taken as a reason to try to change their sex. It's an abomination and goes against nature.

The OP was quite specific that this topic does NOT include transgendering but sexual orientation only. Transgendering in my opinion comes from mental illness. Homosexuality does not.

 

[Foxfyre]

LOL, I am pretty much convinced to be unconvinced. To date, science tells us they have not found a 'gay' gene, and it might not be that simple. Maybe there is some sort of combination of genes that lends itself to differences in sexual preferences, and maybe not. How can we tell if a person was born gay or it was instilled by his/her environment? Some people are horny as hell, right? Is that genetic too? That entire issue of sexual preference/attitudes would appear to be very subjective.

I go by what I have read written by experts on the subject and the experience of those gay people I know well enough that they have shared their experience with me. There is no identifiable autism gene either nor genes for many other human conditions that nobody would probably choose for themselves or a loved one.

I know the people I know who are gay all came from absolutely ordinary traditional homes and all have siblings--a few a LOT of siblings--who are not at all gay. To me that rules out environment or conditioning. They all knew they were different from an early age and most tried to deny the feelings they had until they gave up and admitted to themselves that they were gay.

Among identical or fraternal twins it is very uncommon for both to be gay.

 

[Zincwarrior]

We should ask Vance.

JD Vance’s Campaign Won’t Deny That’s Him in Viral Drag Photo

The GOP’s vice presidential pick is a vocal critic of gender affirming care for minors and once opposed federal protections for gay and interracial marriages.

www.thedailybeast.com

 

[GLASNOST]

«Can You Choose To Be Gay?»​

I guess we need a proper definition of homosexuality in order to answer the OP. I think each and every one of us would engage in a homosexual act if we were locked up in prison long enough because sooner or later we would feel an urge for an orgasm as a mental escape from incarceration. Yes or no? And it would eventually develop into sharing the moment with another human being. But does that make us "gay"? I am sure that if the experience is repeated for a large period of our lives that once we were released from prison we would find ourselves seeking out other men rather than women. Wouldn't it be an acquired behaviour and is that "a choice"? And isn't there a correlation to being confined to an all-boys boarding school just when puberty kicks in? Look to the UK for the answer to that question. Therein lies the answer to the OP.
Choice? Yes and no.

 

[GLASNOST]

ONCE AGAIN: Can You Choose To Be Gay?

I know that I've just responded to the OP but I just have to make one more reply. Asking if you can choose to be gay is like asking "Can You Chose To Be A PEDOPHILE?" I mean, if a man is attracted to another man what is there to "choose"? And if a man is sexually aroused by a child what is there to "choose"?

 

[Blaster]

Many folks have rejected the gay lifestyle and gone straight.

 

[GLASNOST]

Many folks have rejected the gay lifestyle and gone straight.

Sorry, but I don't believe that.

 

[Ava]

and everyone has a gay thought or two or multiple ones…

um....no, not everyone.

 

[GLASNOST]

.... everyone has a gay thought or two or multiple ones…

Even the Flintstones had "a gay old time".

 

[Ava]

It IS a mystifying question: Can you choose to be gay?

I think if two heterosexual people happen to fall in love with another, they could choose to be gay and enjoy same sex with one another. I sometimes see two adult women with grown children, arm in arm with each other and sharing affection in the form of touching and cuddling and I wonder.

I, personally, find the thought of it being repulsive. I'm too into the opposite sex when it comes to attraction. But, I do not judge others. I think finding happiness in the arms of another justifies the behavior. To each their own.

 

[Blaster]

Sorry, but I don't believe that.

The fact is that quite a few gay folks turned straight.

Some Gays Can Go Straight, Study Says

abcnews.go.com

 

[Road Runner]

Even the Flintstones had "a gay old time".

That means that they had a happy time and for the record I'm not sure how my opinion is for the prison thing.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Many folks have rejected the gay lifestyle and gone straight.

And nearly every single one of them is completely full of shit.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

It IS a mystifying question: Can you choose to be gay?

I think if two heterosexual people happen to fall in love with another, they could choose to be gay and enjoy same sex with one another. I sometimes see two adult women with grown children, arm in arm with each other and sharing affection in the form of touching and cuddling and I wonder.

I, personally, find the thought of it being repulsive. I'm too into the opposite sex when it comes to attraction. But, I do not judge others. I think finding happiness in the arms of another justifies the behavior. To each their own.

Gay love is just love.

Do you have a type that you are attracted to?

Now ask yourself if choosing that type was a conscious decision on your part.

 

[GLASNOST]

That means that they had a happy time ...

"A gay old time". Gay. There it is.

... and for the record I'm not sure how my opinion is for the prison thing.

What do you mean? Do you not agree that men in prison also have a need for orgasm? Do you not agree that sooner or later prisoners will "share" their sexual frustration with another inmate? Do you not agree that a large part of their lives "inside" will affect their behaviour "outside"?

 

[Road Runner]

"A gay old time". Gay. There it is.

Gay meant happy back in those days.

What do you mean? Do you not agree that men in prison also have a need for orgasm? Do you not agree that sooner or later prisoners will "share" their sexual frustration with another inmate? Do you not agree that a large part of their lives "inside" will affect their behaviour "outside"?

I think that even though it often happens it's still their choice whether they do or not.

 

[GLASNOST]

Gay meant happy back in those days.

I know. I'm just messing with you.

I think that even though it often happens it's still their choice whether they do or not.

I do not agree. If you decide to engage in a homosexual act then your participation is (let us assume with a large degree of conviction) "a choice". But being gay (homosexual, the attraction to the same sex) is no choice at all. The title of your thread is Can You Choose To Be Gay? The answer is "no". You cannot choose your preferences and urges. You can only choose your participation.

 

[DakotaKai_fan20]

Elton John is living proof that a person can choose to be gay. Back in the day he had a wife. Then years later he married another man. Science says you are born gay. But I call that science "fact" psudoscience.