Can we be honest here?

The good the bad and the ugly
Following the release of June employment data on Thursday morning, President Trump quickly called a news briefing to offer a few tweet-sized assessments of how the economy was doing. Well, in short — as evidenced by various employment gains seen among various occupational and demographic groups. No mention was made of the fact that the assessment used to estimate employment preceded the recent resurgence of the coronavirus.

So we had Trump standing before the television cameras hyping a number of new employment records, praising “historic numbers in a time that a lot of people would have wilted,” as he put it.

As when he celebrated the month-over-month gain in employment:

“It was just put out that the United States economy added almost 5 million jobs in the month of June, shattering all expectations. … This is the largest monthly jobs gain in the history of our country.”


This is true. But it’s also a bit like a restaurant boasting about seeing an increase in customers after being cited by the health department for rampant code violations. Yes, the 4.8 million jobs added is more than in any prior month on record, stretching back to 1939. But that followed the record drop of 20.8 million jobs in April — a record of its own — which followed a drop of 1.4 million jobs in March, the third-highest figure on record.

While adding jobs is obviously good, it's important to note that employment in the United States is still down significantly. Since February, when employment was at its peak, 14.6 million fewer Americans are working. Since Trump took office, 7.8 million fewer people are working.

This wasn't the only record Trump touted.

The May jobs numbers, he said, were “revised upward to 2.7 million jobs for a combined total of 7.5 million jobs created in the last two months. And that’s a record by many millions of jobs.”


Again, it is. The next highest two-month increase in employment was 1.7 million in early 1946. That made up about 1.2 percent of the country's population. The recent two-month gain is about 2.3 percent of the total population.

But, again, this follows two months in which job losses were about as bad as they’ve ever been. In March and April, 22.1 million jobs were lost, the worst two-month decrease on record.

The same dynamic applies to his celebration of industry-specific numbers.

“In June, we added 2.1 million leisure and hospitality jobs, 740,000 retail jobs, 568,000 education and health-care jobs, 357,000 service jobs. These are all historic numbers. And 356,000 manufacturing jobs.”

It’s important to note, first, that those leisure and retail jobs are at risk as coronavirus cases increase and restaurants and stores have to close down again (as is already happening in Florida and other states).
 
The good the bad and the ugly
Following the release of June employment data on Thursday morning, President Trump quickly called a news briefing to offer a few tweet-sized assessments of how the economy was doing. Well, in short — as evidenced by various employment gains seen among various occupational and demographic groups. No mention was made of the fact that the assessment used to estimate employment preceded the recent resurgence of the coronavirus.

So we had Trump standing before the television cameras hyping a number of new employment records, praising “historic numbers in a time that a lot of people would have wilted,” as he put it.

As when he celebrated the month-over-month gain in employment:

“It was just put out that the United States economy added almost 5 million jobs in the month of June, shattering all expectations. … This is the largest monthly jobs gain in the history of our country.”


This is true. But it’s also a bit like a restaurant boasting about seeing an increase in customers after being cited by the health department for rampant code violations. Yes, the 4.8 million jobs added is more than in any prior month on record, stretching back to 1939. But that followed the record drop of 20.8 million jobs in April — a record of its own — which followed a drop of 1.4 million jobs in March, the third-highest figure on record.

While adding jobs is obviously good, it's important to note that employment in the United States is still down significantly. Since February, when employment was at its peak, 14.6 million fewer Americans are working. Since Trump took office, 7.8 million fewer people are working.

This wasn't the only record Trump touted.

The May jobs numbers, he said, were “revised upward to 2.7 million jobs for a combined total of 7.5 million jobs created in the last two months. And that’s a record by many millions of jobs.”


Again, it is. The next highest two-month increase in employment was 1.7 million in early 1946. That made up about 1.2 percent of the country's population. The recent two-month gain is about 2.3 percent of the total population.

But, again, this follows two months in which job losses were about as bad as they’ve ever been. In March and April, 22.1 million jobs were lost, the worst two-month decrease on record.

The same dynamic applies to his celebration of industry-specific numbers.

“In June, we added 2.1 million leisure and hospitality jobs, 740,000 retail jobs, 568,000 education and health-care jobs, 357,000 service jobs. These are all historic numbers. And 356,000 manufacturing jobs.”

It’s important to note, first, that those leisure and retail jobs are at risk as coronavirus cases increase and restaurants and stores have to close down again (as is already happening in Florida and other states).

I think what the President is doing is trying to counter-claim the daily "end of the world" reporting from the MSM. You people complain when he's not telling the truth, and you complain when he does.

Nobody expected the economy to bounce back to December levels in one month. However these numbers, and Trump telling us about them is only encouraging the people to keep the economy going. Is there anything wrong or bad about that?

Unemployment is now in the 11% range. The market seems to be recovering as well. Consumer confidence was up in June to boot. Will the MSM report it as great news? No possible way. So like I said, the President is trying to restore economic confidence in the American people. After all, we are the main economic driving factor.
 
The good the bad and the uglymorning, President Trump quickly called a news briefing to offer a few tweet-sized assessments of how the economy was doing. Well, in short — as evidenced by various employment gains seen among various occupational and demographic groups. No mention was made of the fact that the assessment used to estimate employment preceded the recent resurgence of the coronavirus.

Following the release of June employment data on Thursday
So we had Trump standing before the television cameras hyping a number of new employment records, praising “historic numbers in a time that a lot of people would have wilted,” as he put it.

As when he celebrated the month-over-month gain in employment:

“It was just put out that the United States economy added almost 5 million jobs in the month of June, shattering all expectations. … This is the largest monthly jobs gain in the history of our country.”


This is true. But it’s also a bit like a restaurant boasting about seeing an increase in customers after being cited by the health department for rampant code violations. Yes, the 4.8 million jobs added is more than in any prior month on record, stretching back to 1939. But that followed the record drop of 20.8 million jobs in April — a record of its own — which followed a drop of 1.4 million jobs in March, the third-highest figure on record.

While adding jobs is obviously good, it's important to note that employment in the United States is still down significantly. Since February, when employment was at its peak, 14.6 million fewer Americans are working. Since Trump took office, 7.8 million fewer people are working.

This wasn't the only record Trump touted.

The May jobs numbers, he said, were “revised upward to 2.7 million jobs for a combined total of 7.5 million jobs created in the last two months. And that’s a record by many millions of jobs.”


Again, it is. The next highest two-month increase in employment was 1.7 million in early 1946. That made up about 1.2 percent of the country's population. The recent two-month gain is about 2.3 percent of the total population.

But, again, this follows two months in which job losses were about as bad as they’ve ever been. In March and April, 22.1 million jobs were lost, the worst two-month decrease on record.

The same dynamic applies to his celebration of industry-specific numbers.

“In June, we added 2.1 million leisure and hospitality jobs, 740,000 retail jobs, 568,000 education and health-care jobs, 357,000 service jobs. These are all historic numbers. And 356,000 manufacturing jobs.”

It’s important to note, first, that those leisure and retail jobs are at risk as coronavirus cases increase and restaurants and stores have to close down again (as is already happening in Florida and other states).

I think what the President is doing is trying to counter-claim the daily "end of the world" reporting from the MSM. You people complain when he's not telling the truth, and you complain when he does.

Nobody expected the economy to bounce back to December levels in one month. However these numbers, and Trump telling us about them is only encouraging the people to keep the economy going. Is there anything wrong or bad about that?

Unemployment is now in the 11% range. The market seems to be recovering as well. Consumer confidence was up in June to boot. Will the MSM report it as great news? No possible way. So like I said, the President is trying to restore economic confidence in the American people. After all, we are the main economic driving factor.
Early in our history, Trump might have meant the end of the
Republican party.
 
The good the bad and the uglymorning, President Trump quickly called a news briefing to offer a few tweet-sized assessments of how the economy was doing. Well, in short — as evidenced by various employment gains seen among various occupational and demographic groups. No mention was made of the fact that the assessment used to estimate employment preceded the recent resurgence of the coronavirus.

Following the release of June employment data on Thursday
So we had Trump standing before the television cameras hyping a number of new employment records, praising “historic numbers in a time that a lot of people would have wilted,” as he put it.

As when he celebrated the month-over-month gain in employment:

“It was just put out that the United States economy added almost 5 million jobs in the month of June, shattering all expectations. … This is the largest monthly jobs gain in the history of our country.”


This is true. But it’s also a bit like a restaurant boasting about seeing an increase in customers after being cited by the health department for rampant code violations. Yes, the 4.8 million jobs added is more than in any prior month on record, stretching back to 1939. But that followed the record drop of 20.8 million jobs in April — a record of its own — which followed a drop of 1.4 million jobs in March, the third-highest figure on record.

While adding jobs is obviously good, it's important to note that employment in the United States is still down significantly. Since February, when employment was at its peak, 14.6 million fewer Americans are working. Since Trump took office, 7.8 million fewer people are working.

This wasn't the only record Trump touted.

The May jobs numbers, he said, were “revised upward to 2.7 million jobs for a combined total of 7.5 million jobs created in the last two months. And that’s a record by many millions of jobs.”


Again, it is. The next highest two-month increase in employment was 1.7 million in early 1946. That made up about 1.2 percent of the country's population. The recent two-month gain is about 2.3 percent of the total population.

But, again, this follows two months in which job losses were about as bad as they’ve ever been. In March and April, 22.1 million jobs were lost, the worst two-month decrease on record.

The same dynamic applies to his celebration of industry-specific numbers.

“In June, we added 2.1 million leisure and hospitality jobs, 740,000 retail jobs, 568,000 education and health-care jobs, 357,000 service jobs. These are all historic numbers. And 356,000 manufacturing jobs.”

It’s important to note, first, that those leisure and retail jobs are at risk as coronavirus cases increase and restaurants and stores have to close down again (as is already happening in Florida and other states).

I think what the President is doing is trying to counter-claim the daily "end of the world" reporting from the MSM. You people complain when he's not telling the truth, and you complain when he does.

Nobody expected the economy to bounce back to December levels in one month. However these numbers, and Trump telling us about them is only encouraging the people to keep the economy going. Is there anything wrong or bad about that?

Unemployment is now in the 11% range. The market seems to be recovering as well. Consumer confidence was up in June to boot. Will the MSM report it as great news? No possible way. So like I said, the President is trying to restore economic confidence in the American people. After all, we are the main economic driving factor.
Early in our history, Trump might have meant the end of the
Republican party.

How so?
 
Are any of our USMB Conservatives more concerned about Trumps re-election chances compared to six months ago?
LOL! You asked for honesty from the USMB conservative group? You might get 1 or 2 to bite..but most will either scroll past or tell you in great detail how Trump is stronger than ever and all polls are trash.
 
Are any of our USMB Conservatives more concerned about Trumps re-election chances compared to six months ago?
LOL! You asked for honesty from the USMB conservative group? You might get 1 or 2 to bite..but most will either scroll past or tell you in great detail how Trump is stronger than ever and all polls are trash.
Exactly what I got in this thread.

Bad news is ignored, denied or fake
 
Are any of our USMB Conservatives more concerned about Trumps re-election chances compared to six months ago?
LOL! You asked for honesty from the USMB conservative group? You might get 1 or 2 to bite..but most will either scroll past or tell you in great detail how Trump is stronger than ever and all polls are trash.
Exactly what I got in this thread.

Bad news is ignored, denied or fake


Gee, I wonder why that is...Maybe the question would have been better coming from a more moderate liberal member, if that even exists anymore...

But, I'll bite for a minute...I do worry about the election...Amid what's going on in the streets out there, and given what Biden has already projected what he wants to do, it would be a disaster to replace Trump with this doofus....
 
Are any of our USMB Conservatives more concerned about Trumps re-election chances compared to six months ago?
LOL! You asked for honesty from the USMB conservative group? You might get 1 or 2 to bite..but most will either scroll past or tell you in great detail how Trump is stronger than ever and all polls are trash.
Exactly what I got in this thread.

Bad news is ignored, denied or fake


Gee, I wonder why that is...Maybe the question would have been better coming from a more moderate liberal member, if that even exists anymore...

But, I'll bite for a minute...I do worry about the election...Amid what's going on in the streets out there, and given what Biden has already projected what he wants to do, it would be a disaster to replace Trump with this doofus....
There is still plenty of time and a lot can happen in four months.

But any Republican not concerned right now is kidding themselves. Trump lined up on the wrong side in fighting this virus and rather than getting better in the summer, it is getting much worse.
 
Are any of our USMB Conservatives more concerned about Trumps re-election chances compared to six months ago?
LOL! You asked for honesty from the USMB conservative group? You might get 1 or 2 to bite..but most will either scroll past or tell you in great detail how Trump is stronger than ever and all polls are trash.
Exactly what I got in this thread.

Bad news is ignored, denied or fake


Gee, I wonder why that is...Maybe the question would have been better coming from a more moderate liberal member, if that even exists anymore...

But, I'll bite for a minute...I do worry about the election...Amid what's going on in the streets out there, and given what Biden has already projected what he wants to do, it would be a disaster to replace Trump with this doofus....
There is still plenty of time and a lot can happen in four months.

But any Republican not concerned right now is kidding themselves. Trump lined up on the wrong side in fighting this virus and rather than getting better in the summer, it is getting much worse.


What in the hell do you want HIM to do about it? You are always saying to let the science rule, right? Well, science takes time to come up with vaccines and other treatments...The bureaucracy involved won't allow a speedy treatment...And in most cases the layers of this bureaucracy have been put in place by Democrats. It is totally hypocritical, and political to blame the speed of treatments of this virus on the President...I don't recall you raising such questions when Obama was in office.
 
What in the hell do you want HIM to do about it?

Show Leadership

Americans are scared, they want their leaders to be honest with them. They want to be safe. They want a leader who shows compassion. They want a leader who puts the nation above his personal interests.
 
What in the hell do you want HIM to do about it?

Show Leadership

Americans are scared, they want their leaders to be honest with them. They want to be safe. They want a leader who shows compassion. They want a leader who puts the nation above his personal interests.
This is REAL leadership...Joe discussing his leg hair and cockroaches. WTF?
 
What in the hell do you want HIM to do about it?

Show Leadership

Americans are scared, they want their leaders to be honest with them. They want to be safe. They want a leader who shows compassion. They want a leader who puts the nation above his personal interests.

All of what you listed is pablum...

When Trump halted flights from China, your politicians at the time mocked him, and called his move Xenophobic....Remember that? Remember Pelosi telling San Francisco to come on down to China town and party?

As far as putting the nation about personal interests and such, is that what the hijacked demo party is doing these days? tearing down statues, trying their damnedest to spark a Socialist revolution in this country? Yeah, you people are all about preserving America... :laughing0301: You people hate this country....
 
What in the hell do you want HIM to do about it?

Show Leadership

Americans are scared, they want their leaders to be honest with them. They want to be safe. They want a leader who shows compassion. They want a leader who puts the nation above his personal interests.

What you described is what snowflakes need, not Americans. We Americans don't need some fuzzy warm old man to wipe our tears away or give us a hug.

Yes, some Americans are scared. They are scared of what violent leftists may to do them. They fear their towns being torn apart, their landscape and statues disfigured, their homes being attacked or being attacked in their own cars. They fear anarchists taking over blocks of their downtown where they work. That's what real Americans are scared of. It would be the stupidest thing in the world to elect their choice of leader as the President of the United States. This is what leftists have forced some of us to do.

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Why I know Republicans are brain dead They can't realize blacks hate the confederate flags and statues the same way as Jews hate the swastika
 
Are any of our USMB Conservatives more concerned about Trumps re-election chances compared to six months ago?
LOL! You asked for honesty from the USMB conservative group? You might get 1 or 2 to bite..but most will either scroll past or tell you in great detail how Trump is stronger than ever and all polls are trash.
Exactly what I got in this thread.

Bad news is ignored, denied or fake


Gee, I wonder why that is...Maybe the question would have been better coming from a more moderate liberal member, if that even exists anymore...

But, I'll bite for a minute...I do worry about the election...Amid what's going on in the streets out there, and given what Biden has already projected what he wants to do, it would be a disaster to replace Trump with this doofus....
There is still plenty of time and a lot can happen in four months.

But any Republican not concerned right now is kidding themselves. Trump lined up on the wrong side in fighting this virus and rather than getting better in the summer, it is getting much worse.

Some medical experts were making the same claim, that there was a possibility of this virus acting that way. I don't know what you expect. This is something new to the entire world. Nobody alive today has ever experienced anything like this before, so nobody knew what to think or how to respond.

The President trying to be optimistic and encouraging is what a leader is supposed to be doing. Any commie President would have done the same things. If this were Hillary's job and great economy, you bet she would have tried everything in the world to save it.
 
What in the hell do you want HIM to do about it?

Show Leadership

Americans are scared, they want their leaders to be honest with them. They want to be safe. They want a leader who shows compassion. They want a leader who puts the nation above his personal interests.

What you described is what snowflakes need, not Americans. We Americans don't need some fuzzy warm old man to wipe our tears away or give us a hug.

Yes, some Americans are scared. They are scared of what violent leftists may to do them. They fear their towns being torn apart, their landscape and statues disfigured, their homes being attacked or being attacked in their own cars. They fear anarchists taking over blocks of their downtown where they work. That's what real Americans are scared of. It would be the stupidest thing in the world to elect their choice of leader as the President of the United States. This is what leftists have forced some of us to do.

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Don't you get it yet Ray ? Trump domestically and internationally is the worst President EVER and it's not close
This virus has gotten completely out of hand and he plays golf ?? Russia our enemy into G7 when all other members say NO?? Have you heard him say one word condemning Putin the murdering scum? but believes him ahead of our people??
 
Why I know Republicans are brain dead They can't realize blacks hate the confederate flags and statues the same way as Jews hate the swastika

You (a person that doesn't know how to use punctuation) calling anybody brain dead is laughable.

When we heavily criticize leftists burning our American flag, your people told us the flag is nothing more than a piece of cloth; no real significant meaning; burning a flag hurt nobody. Now a confederate flag is the end of the world. This flag for some reason is so offensive you can't stand it being out in public.
 
Are any of our USMB Conservatives more concerned about Trumps re-election chances compared to six months ago?

One thing you can be sure of: These folks would never change their minds about Trump.

A cult is still a cult, and Trump is still their leader. Thinking? Thinking left the building with these people over three decades ago.
 
Beds are filling up Big cities were more able to staff the hospitals and had more hospitals than the smaller cities
So far Texas Florida and Arizona are in deep with many other states in peril Keep safe Ray and your republican friends They're saying the virus changing for the worse ,,more easily to infect
 
What in the hell do you want HIM to do about it?

Show Leadership

Americans are scared, they want their leaders to be honest with them. They want to be safe. They want a leader who shows compassion. They want a leader who puts the nation above his personal interests.

What you described is what snowflakes need, not Americans. We Americans don't need some fuzzy warm old man to wipe our tears away or give us a hug.

Yes, some Americans are scared. They are scared of what violent leftists may to do them. They fear their towns being torn apart, their landscape and statues disfigured, their homes being attacked or being attacked in their own cars. They fear anarchists taking over blocks of their downtown where they work. That's what real Americans are scared of. It would be the stupidest thing in the world to elect their choice of leader as the President of the United States. This is what leftists have forced some of us to do.

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Don't you get it yet Ray ? Trump domestically and internationally is the worst President EVER and it's not close
This virus has gotten completely out of hand and he plays golf ?? Russia our enemy into G7 when all other members say NO?? Have you heard him say one word condemning Putin the murdering scum? but believes him ahead of our people??

Oh please, talking about murdering people. When Trump referred to this as the Wuhan Virus, you people flipped out. How dare he criticize the country you respect so much. How dare Trump place the blame on the origins of this virus.

How many people has China murdered? How many are being murdered today? Last count I seen was over a half-million dead around the world thanks to them and their stupid bat eating people. Then there's Iran, the world sponsor of terrorism who sent their goons into Iraq to kill hundreds of our American solders. What did DumBama do? He sent them billions of dollars in cash on pallets.

You have no room to talk.
 

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