Can the Trump supporters explain something to me?

[YoursTruly]

Trump campaigned on cutting spending and the size of government. That's something that fiscal conservatives like Massie and Chip Roy have been doing since they were elected the first time. It's one of the biggest reasons why Trump was elected both times.
We all know that government spending is out of control. We know the size and scope of government is also out of control.
Just in the last month, Trump has threatened to get us involved in wars that have nothing to do with us. He's promised to created more government. He's gone from publicly supporting smaller, more transparent bills to now wanting a HUGE reconciliation bill with everything in it. "One big beautiful bill," as he calls it. One that's is already partially written and spends way more than the last one. The H1B can't go without being mentioned also. Supporting H1B's over American graduates.

Without focusing on one single issue/promise, can someone explain to me where the fiscally conservative Trump went to? Because he's not even in office yet and is already changing his stance on some important issues. This was supposed to be the new and improved Trump. But it seems like it's the same one that got elected in 2016.

 

[progressive hunter]

Trump campaigned on cutting spending and the size of government. That's something that fiscal conservatives like Massie and Chip Roy have been doing since they were elected the first time. It's one of the biggest reasons why Trump was elected both times.
We all know that government spending is out of control. We know the size and scope of government is also out of control.
Just in the last month, Trump has threatened to get us involved in wars that have nothing to do with us. He's promised to created more government. He's gone from publicly supporting smaller, more transparent bills to now wanting a HUGE reconciliation bill with everything in it. "One big beautiful bill," as he calls it. One that's is already partially written and spends way more than the last one. The H1B can't go without being mentioned also. Supporting H1B's over American graduates.

Without focusing on one single issue/promise, can someone explain to me where the fiscally conservative Trump went to? Because he's not even in office yet and is already changing his stance on some important issues. This was supposed to be the new and improved Trump. But it seems like it's the same one that got elected in 2016.

you sure do seem to depend on others to explain reality to you,,

 

[TNHarley]

fiscally conservative Trump

 

[SassyIrishLass]

We haven't had a POTUS in years who's cut spending or reduced the size of government

 

[YoursTruly]

We haven't had a POTUS in years who's cut spending or reduced the size of government

But that's exactly why Trump was elected. It's what he promised. It's what his supporters believe he's going to do. They got all giddy over DOGE.
And now the real Donald Trump is coming out, and hardly any of his supporters are holding him accountable for any of these flip flops.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

We haven't had a POTUS in years who's cut spending or reduced the size of government

Coolidge was the last one

 

[SassyIrishLass]

But that's exactly why Trump was elected. It's what he promised. It's what his supporters believe he's going to do. They got all giddy over DOGE.
And now the real Donald Trump is coming out, and hardly any of his supporters are holding him accountable for any of these flip flops.

It's not why I voted for him. I simply looked at the alternative

 

[hadit]

We haven't had a POTUS in years who's cut spending or reduced the size of government

That's because we keep letting Congress slide, even though they have as much or more influence over the size of government as the president does.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

That's because we keep letting Congress slide, even though they have as much or more influence over the size of government as the president does.

I agree. Spending is ridiculous and the result is taxation to cover it.

Something has to give

 

[whitehall]

Is the left living in some alternate universe? Biden is president. Trump won't be inaugurated for another five days.

 

[theHawk]

Trump campaigned on cutting spending and the size of government. That's something that fiscal conservatives like Massie and Chip Roy have been doing since they were elected the first time. It's one of the biggest reasons why Trump was elected both times.
We all know that government spending is out of control. We know the size and scope of government is also out of control.
Just in the last month, Trump has threatened to get us involved in wars that have nothing to do with us. He's promised to created more government. He's gone from publicly supporting smaller, more transparent bills to now wanting a HUGE reconciliation bill with everything in it. "One big beautiful bill," as he calls it. One that's is already partially written and spends way more than the last one. The H1B can't go without being mentioned also. Supporting H1B's over American graduates.

Without focusing on one single issue/promise, can someone explain to me where the fiscally conservative Trump went to? Because he's not even in office yet and is already changing his stance on some important issues. This was supposed to be the new and improved Trump. But it seems like it's the same one that got elected in 2016.

Hopefully DOGE will cut a lot of unneeded government spending and agencies.

 

[YoursTruly]

That's because we keep letting Congress slide, even though they have as much or more influence over the size of government as the president does.

You can't blame congress when Trump has a record of vetoing only 1 spending bill in his entire term. Nor can you blame congress when the people keep electing these big spending, big government RINO's.

It's not why I voted for him. I simply looked at the alternative

The alternative? A democrat big spending, big government politician? Seems like the difference is only party affiliation.

 

[Mac-7]

Trump campaigned on cutting spending and the size of government. That's something that fiscal conservatives like Massie and Chip Roy have been doing since they were elected the first time. It's one of the biggest reasons why Trump was elected both times.
We all know that government spending is out of control. We know the size and scope of government is also out of control.
Just in the last month, Trump has threatened to get us involved in wars that have nothing to do with us. He's promised to created more government. He's gone from publicly supporting smaller, more transparent bills to now wanting a HUGE reconciliation bill with everything in it. "One big beautiful bill," as he calls it. One that's is already partially written and spends way more than the last one. The H1B can't go without being mentioned also. Supporting H1B's over American graduates.

Without focusing on one single issue/promise, can someone explain to me where the fiscally conservative Trump went to? Because he's not even in office yet and is already changing his stance on some important issues. This was supposed to be the new and improved Trump. But it seems like it's the same one that got elected in 2016.

More questions?

You are a perpetual question machine

 

[hadit]

I agree. Spending is ridiculous and the result is taxation to cover it.

Something has to give

It's telling when no programs face the requirement of justifying budget increases.

 

[YoursTruly]

Is the left living in some alternate universe? Biden is president. Trump won't be inaugurated for another five days.

That's the point of this thread. Trump's not even president and he's already flip flopping on issues that got him elected.
The democrats have nothing to do with this.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

You can't blame congress when Trump has a record of vetoing only 1 spending bill in his entire term. Nor can you blame congress when the people keep electing these big spending, big government RINO's.





The alternative? A democrat big spending, big government politician? Seems like the difference is only party affiliation.
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That's where we're at. I could get behind someone who truly wants to address the problem

 

[YoursTruly]

More questions?

You are a perpetual question machine

Sure I have questions. I posted links to why there are questions. As in why did he campaign on one thing, and before he even takes office, he's flip flopping on those campaign promises.

And more importantly, why his supporters aren't even noticing these flip flops. You're a HUGE Trump supporter, and you don't even question his flip flops. Why?

 

[YoursTruly]

That's where we're at. I could get behind someone who truly wants to address the problem

Someone like DeSantis? The Trump cancel culture shot him down. And he's got an executive record as governor of actually vetoing spending. Reducing the size of his government. Growing his party's majority. Defending his borders. And all the things people only hoped Trump would do. (But has no record of actually doing it)

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Someone like DeSantis? The Trump cancel culture shot him down. And he's got an executive record as governor of actually vetoing spending. Reducing the size of his government. Growing his party's majority. Defending his borders. And all the things people only hoped Trump would do. (But has no record of actually doing it)

It's going to take someone to actually get Congress involved

I'd recommend the first step would be only stand alone bills, stop adding on pork

 

[YoursTruly]

It's telling when no programs face the requirement of justifying budget increases.

Trump is already planning to cut taxes and increase spending. That's a horrible way to manage a budget. In fact, it's insane, because tax cuts have never ever paid for themselves.