Can the Trump supporters explain something to me?

[Contumacious]

Massie should be replaced by an actual Republican.


Chip Roy is extreme fringe, but pragmatic.

If House Republicans cared for our welfare they would have elected Thomas Harold Massie as their Speaker

 

[Billiejeens]

Why not at least wait until he is in office and does something before you piss your Depends.

What fun would that be

If House Republicans cared for our welfare they would have elected Thomas Harold Massie as their Speaker

No
Absolutely not.

 

[Contumacious]

I had no control over any of it.

I see that prior posters were right, you just want to bitch, you have no real solution.

He is a fucking contrarian - bitch for bitching sake

 

[Nobody911]

Do you understand politics? Policies, plans, and strategies can change at any time, depending greatly on current situations.

The US policies, plans, and strategies can change rapidly in response to various factors. Here are several reasons why:

1. Public Opinion: Changes in voter sentiment can prompt politicians to adjust their policies to align with constituents' preferences.

2. Elections: Upcoming elections can influence policy decisions as politicians seek to appeal to voters or to respond to their opponents' stances.

3. Economic Conditions: Economic crises or booms can necessitate quick policy adaptations to address unemployment, inflation, or other economic indicators.

4. Social Movements: Grassroots movements and advocacy can drive shifts in policy, as seen with issues like climate change, healthcare, and civil rights.

5. Global Events: International conflicts, trade agreements, and diplomatic relations can lead to changes in foreign and domestic policies.

6. Legislative Dynamics: The composition of Congress can shift due to elections or party changes, impacting legislative priorities and strategies.

7. Judicial Decisions: Supreme Court rulings can influence or overturn existing policies, leading to rapid adjustments.

8. Technological Advances: New technologies can spur policy changes to regulate emerging industries or address ethical concerns.

9. Public Crises: Natural disasters, pandemics, or other crises can force immediate policy reevaluations to respond effectively.

These factors illustrate the dynamic nature of U.S. politics, where adaptability is often crucial for government effectiveness.

 

[YoursTruly]

Wrong topic/subject & thread.

Want to discuss this, make a thread.

 

[YoursTruly]

The subject is that you are upset that President Trump and 3% of Congress aren't authoritarian enough to force their positions on the rest.

When that is addressed, you deny it.

They're not authoritarian at all. And that's a good thing. Good changes should come with agreements. Not force.
You Trump supporters seem like y'all want Trump to force everything.

 

[YoursTruly]

Why not at least wait until he is in office and does something before you piss your Depends.

The flip flops I've listed are some he's taking BEFORE he's even in office. Why wait to discuss them later? They're relevant now.

 

[Billiejeens]

They're not authoritarian at all. And that's a good thing. Good changes should come with agreements. Not force.
You Trump supporters seem like y'all want Trump to force everything.

Your head has a screw loose.

 

[YoursTruly]

Your head has a screw loose.

And all you have to refute anything I'm saying is personal insults. Trump would be proud of you.

 

[gmeyers1944]

No they didn't. That's why, under Reagan, we ended up with 4 tax increases & 17 debt ceiling increases, after this tax cuts. Conservatives were trying to keep the debt from ballooning. Back then, conservatives understood the damage that ballooning debt, borrowing too much money, would do to the value of the USD.

Te debt "ballooned" because Democrats in Congress spent like drunken sailors, not because of tax cuts.

 

[candycorn]

The only way I see us fixing (to some degree) our fiscal mess is to pass a FULL budget, meaning revenue AND spending, at the same time. And the only way to do that is for the two parties to work together, which they no longer have the capacity to do.

Sloganeering like "cut spending!" is always attractive and gets votes, but when it comes to getting down to business these people are more worried about getting re-elected. So we have to fix our electoral system, TOO.

Not holding my breath.

Since the GOP controlls both houses and the Oval...we’re going to see a budget passed this time, right?

 

[gmeyers1944]

So, by your own account - 3%

The very definition of fringe.

Fringe - not part of the mainstream, unconventional, peripheral, or extreme.

It's not numbers that determine what is "Fringe" but policy. The real extremists are people like Alexanderia Ocasio-Cortez.

 

[Billiejeens]

It's not numbers that determine what is "Fringe" but policy. The real extremists are people like Alexanderia Ocasio-Cortez.

That's not true.

 

[gmeyers1944]

That's not true.

Policies, like "The Green New Deal" are dangerously extreme.

 

[Mac1958]

Since the GOP controlls both houses and the Oval...we’re going to see a budget passed this time, right?

That should be one of the more interesting conversations.

 

[YoursTruly]

Te debt "ballooned" because Democrats in Congress spent like drunken sailors, not because of tax cuts.

Trump spent $8 trillion in just 4 years. And only vetoed 1 spending bill.
Biden, who had just as much time dealing with Covid, spent $6 trillion in 4 years.

So please tell us all how big spenders the democrats are.

 

[YoursTruly]

Since the GOP controlls both houses and the Oval...we’re going to see a budget passed this time, right?

Oh yeah. Suuuuuuure. Just like last time when they had the majority. Don't you remember? The budget was balanced, the national debt was lowered. The skies were sunny every day. And poor people rose out of poverty like Moses parted the red sea.

 

[candycorn]

Oh yeah. Suuuuuuure. Just like last time when they had the majority. Don't you remember? The budget was balanced, the national debt was lowered. The skies were sunny every day. And poor people rose out of poverty like Moses parted the red sea.

Its almost as if they are afraid to be held responsible for the money they’re going to spend.

 

[Dragonlady]

Trump campaigned on cutting spending and the size of government. That's something that fiscal conservatives like Massie and Chip Roy have been doing since they were elected the first time. It's one of the biggest reasons why Trump was elected both times.
We all know that government spending is out of control. We know the size and scope of government is also out of control.
Just in the last month, Trump has threatened to get us involved in wars that have nothing to do with us. He's promised to created more government. He's gone from publicly supporting smaller, more transparent bills to now wanting a HUGE reconciliation bill with everything in it. "One big beautiful bill," as he calls it. One that's is already partially written and spends way more than the last one. The H1B can't go without being mentioned also. Supporting H1B's over American graduates.

Without focusing on one single issue/promise, can someone explain to me where the fiscally conservative Trump went to? Because he's not even in office yet and is already changing his stance on some important issues. This was supposed to be the new and improved Trump. But it seems like it's the same one that got elected in 2016.

Trump has never been fiscally conservative or even fiscally responsible in his entire life. That's why he was responsible for 7 corporate bankruptcies involving billions of dollars, and more business losses than anyone in history.

Trump lied to get into office so he wouldn't go to jail, and for no other reason. He told you "I don;t care about you, I just want your vote." And he was prepared to say or do anything to get it.

But like all Trump deals, once he gets what he wants, fuck the people who made it possible.