Can the federal government force gun registration? How about state voter information registration?

[2aguy]

State officials are refusing to disclose data the commission wants, sometimes pointing to their own laws.

WASHINGTON ― President Donald Trump’s commission on election integrity is facing significant hurdles, as multiple state election officials have said they will not comply with the panel’s request this week for specific, sensitive voter information.

Even some Republican officials have said that they may be opposed to or prohibited from releasing such information or that they’re otherwise willing to do only the bare minimum in satisfying the Trump commission’s demands.

Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach (R), the commission’s vice chair who signed the letter sent to the states on Wednesday, told the Kansas City Star that his state would not release the last four digits of voters’ Social Security numbers because that information is not publicly available.

The requested information includes the “full first and last names of all registrants, middle names or initials if available, addresses, dates of birth, political party (if recorded in your state), last four digits of social security number if available, voter history (elections voted in) from 2006 onward, active/inactive status, cancelled status, information regarding any felony convictions, information regarding voter registration in another state, information regarding military status, and overseas citizen information.”

Critics are fearful that sensitive private data could become public if given to the commission and that investigators will use that information to create an inaccurate picture of voter fraud ― a relatively rare phenomenon in the U.S.

More: Trump's Election Investigation Is Already Facing Trouble | HuffPost

Does anyone believe Trump is asking for this information for honorable reasons? Anyone who is against a federal gun registry should also be against a federal voter registry of personal information. I thought Trump and his base were all about "smaller" government. Should the federal government be allowed to force states to provide this information? Just imagine if President Obama had requested such information.

There is a constitutional right to bear arms.

There is no constitutional right to vote.

You might want to read past the 2nd amendment sometime .

No...what you mean is you want to make shit up so you can ban guns.....

 

[2aguy]

State officials are refusing to disclose data the commission wants, sometimes pointing to their own laws.

WASHINGTON ― President Donald Trump’s commission on election integrity is facing significant hurdles, as multiple state election officials have said they will not comply with the panel’s request this week for specific, sensitive voter information.

Even some Republican officials have said that they may be opposed to or prohibited from releasing such information or that they’re otherwise willing to do only the bare minimum in satisfying the Trump commission’s demands.

Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach (R), the commission’s vice chair who signed the letter sent to the states on Wednesday, told the Kansas City Star that his state would not release the last four digits of voters’ Social Security numbers because that information is not publicly available.

The requested information includes the “full first and last names of all registrants, middle names or initials if available, addresses, dates of birth, political party (if recorded in your state), last four digits of social security number if available, voter history (elections voted in) from 2006 onward, active/inactive status, cancelled status, information regarding any felony convictions, information regarding voter registration in another state, information regarding military status, and overseas citizen information.”

Critics are fearful that sensitive private data could become public if given to the commission and that investigators will use that information to create an inaccurate picture of voter fraud ― a relatively rare phenomenon in the U.S.

More: Trump's Election Investigation Is Already Facing Trouble | HuffPost

Does anyone believe Trump is asking for this information for honorable reasons? Anyone who is against a federal gun registry should also be against a federal voter registry of personal information. I thought Trump and his base were all about "smaller" government. Should the federal government be allowed to force states to provide this information? Just imagine if President Obama had requested such information.

There is a constitutional right to bear arms.

There is no constitutional right to vote.

You might want to read past the 2nd amendment sometime .

We are the ones who actually understand the Bill of Rights...all of them...it is you guys who want to strip Rights from people without due process and Constitutional protections....

 

[debbiedowner]

State officials are refusing to disclose data the commission wants, sometimes pointing to their own laws.

WASHINGTON ― President Donald Trump’s commission on election integrity is facing significant hurdles, as multiple state election officials have said they will not comply with the panel’s request this week for specific, sensitive voter information.

Even some Republican officials have said that they may be opposed to or prohibited from releasing such information or that they’re otherwise willing to do only the bare minimum in satisfying the Trump commission’s demands.

Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach (R), the commission’s vice chair who signed the letter sent to the states on Wednesday, told the Kansas City Star that his state would not release the last four digits of voters’ Social Security numbers because that information is not publicly available.

The requested information includes the “full first and last names of all registrants, middle names or initials if available, addresses, dates of birth, political party (if recorded in your state), last four digits of social security number if available, voter history (elections voted in) from 2006 onward, active/inactive status, cancelled status, information regarding any felony convictions, information regarding voter registration in another state, information regarding military status, and overseas citizen information.”

Critics are fearful that sensitive private data could become public if given to the commission and that investigators will use that information to create an inaccurate picture of voter fraud ― a relatively rare phenomenon in the U.S.

More: Trump's Election Investigation Is Already Facing Trouble | HuffPost

Does anyone believe Trump is asking for this information for honorable reasons? Anyone who is against a federal gun registry should also be against a federal voter registry of personal information. I thought Trump and his base were all about "smaller" government. Should the federal government be allowed to force states to provide this information? Just imagine if President Obama had requested such information.

There is a constitutional right to bear arms.

There is no constitutional right to vote.

Really? I beg to differ. BTW, the antiquated 2nd Amendment is confusing and only applies to arms of the time it was written.

As Professor Epps makes clear, not only is there a right to vote in the Constitution, but it’s the single right that appears most often in the Constitution’s text – five times in all. In fact, four separate Amendments – the 15th, 19th, 24th, and 26th – even use the same powerful language to protect it:

“The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged . . . .”​

Yes, There Is A Right To Vote In The Constitution

The phrase "right to vote" is mentioned just five times in the Constitution, and all of those references appear in the amendments. ... This amendment states "The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of sex."Nov 15, 2015

There is no actual constitutional provision stating that all citizens have the right to vote, only that votingrights cannot be dispensed on the basis of race or gender discrimination. A law requiring you to cut your hair short before voting, or dye it blue, or say “pretty please let me vote,” all might pass muster.Oct 21, 2014

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

State officials are refusing to disclose data the commission wants, sometimes pointing to their own laws.

WASHINGTON ― President Donald Trump’s commission on election integrity is facing significant hurdles, as multiple state election officials have said they will not comply with the panel’s request this week for specific, sensitive voter information.

Even some Republican officials have said that they may be opposed to or prohibited from releasing such information or that they’re otherwise willing to do only the bare minimum in satisfying the Trump commission’s demands.

Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach (R), the commission’s vice chair who signed the letter sent to the states on Wednesday, told the Kansas City Star that his state would not release the last four digits of voters’ Social Security numbers because that information is not publicly available.

The requested information includes the “full first and last names of all registrants, middle names or initials if available, addresses, dates of birth, political party (if recorded in your state), last four digits of social security number if available, voter history (elections voted in) from 2006 onward, active/inactive status, cancelled status, information regarding any felony convictions, information regarding voter registration in another state, information regarding military status, and overseas citizen information.”

Critics are fearful that sensitive private data could become public if given to the commission and that investigators will use that information to create an inaccurate picture of voter fraud ― a relatively rare phenomenon in the U.S.

More: Trump's Election Investigation Is Already Facing Trouble | HuffPost

Does anyone believe Trump is asking for this information for honorable reasons? Anyone who is against a federal gun registry should also be against a federal voter registry of personal information. I thought Trump and his base were all about "smaller" government. Should the federal government be allowed to force states to provide this information? Just imagine if President Obama had requested such information.

There is a constitutional right to bear arms.

There is no constitutional right to vote.

You might want to read past the 2nd amendment sometime .

Post the text confirming a general right to vote.

 

[Iceweasel]

How quickly the hypocrisy is exposed for gun lickers. Don't DARE register our guns, that's communism. Registering voters, oh no big deal that's the type of communism conservatives love. Control and suppression of opposition voting is one of the wet dreams of Republicans.

They want to make sure that convicted bank robbers can't vote, but they don't mind if they can purchase firearms.

convicted felons cannot purchase firearms


Owning a Gun - Felony Restrictions

But one of the enforcement mechanisms of that law is the background check which is widely opposed among so-called gun rights advocates, including the NRA.

Wrong. You continue to demonstrate your ignorance on the subject. NCIS has been in effect a long time. I've had to pass one when buying from a FFL dealer like everybody else. This has been discussed many times here, you have NO excuse!

 

[Timmy]

State officials are refusing to disclose data the commission wants, sometimes pointing to their own laws.

WASHINGTON ― President Donald Trump’s commission on election integrity is facing significant hurdles, as multiple state election officials have said they will not comply with the panel’s request this week for specific, sensitive voter information.

Even some Republican officials have said that they may be opposed to or prohibited from releasing such information or that they’re otherwise willing to do only the bare minimum in satisfying the Trump commission’s demands.

Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach (R), the commission’s vice chair who signed the letter sent to the states on Wednesday, told the Kansas City Star that his state would not release the last four digits of voters’ Social Security numbers because that information is not publicly available.

The requested information includes the “full first and last names of all registrants, middle names or initials if available, addresses, dates of birth, political party (if recorded in your state), last four digits of social security number if available, voter history (elections voted in) from 2006 onward, active/inactive status, cancelled status, information regarding any felony convictions, information regarding voter registration in another state, information regarding military status, and overseas citizen information.”

Critics are fearful that sensitive private data could become public if given to the commission and that investigators will use that information to create an inaccurate picture of voter fraud ― a relatively rare phenomenon in the U.S.

More: Trump's Election Investigation Is Already Facing Trouble | HuffPost

Does anyone believe Trump is asking for this information for honorable reasons? Anyone who is against a federal gun registry should also be against a federal voter registry of personal information. I thought Trump and his base were all about "smaller" government. Should the federal government be allowed to force states to provide this information? Just imagine if President Obama had requested such information.

There is a constitutional right to bear arms.

There is no constitutional right to vote.

Really? I beg to differ. BTW, the antiquated 2nd Amendment is confusing and only applies to arms of the time it was written.

As Professor Epps makes clear, not only is there a right to vote in the Constitution, but it’s the single right that appears most often in the Constitution’s text – five times in all. In fact, four separate Amendments – the 15th, 19th, 24th, and 26th – even use the same powerful language to protect it:

“The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged . . . .”​

Yes, There Is A Right To Vote In The Constitution

The phrase "right to vote" is mentioned just five times in the Constitution, and all of those references appear in the amendments. ... This amendment states "The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of sex."Nov 15, 2015

There is no actual constitutional provision stating that all citizens have the right to vote, only that votingrights cannot be dispensed on the basis of race or gender discrimination. A law requiring you to cut your hair short before voting, or dye it blue, or say “pretty please let me vote,” all might pass muster.Oct 21, 2014

To paraphrase 2nd amendment people: what part of "the right to vote " don't you understand?

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

State officials are refusing to disclose data the commission wants, sometimes pointing to their own laws.

WASHINGTON ― President Donald Trump’s commission on election integrity is facing significant hurdles, as multiple state election officials have said they will not comply with the panel’s request this week for specific, sensitive voter information.

Even some Republican officials have said that they may be opposed to or prohibited from releasing such information or that they’re otherwise willing to do only the bare minimum in satisfying the Trump commission’s demands.

Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach (R), the commission’s vice chair who signed the letter sent to the states on Wednesday, told the Kansas City Star that his state would not release the last four digits of voters’ Social Security numbers because that information is not publicly available.

The requested information includes the “full first and last names of all registrants, middle names or initials if available, addresses, dates of birth, political party (if recorded in your state), last four digits of social security number if available, voter history (elections voted in) from 2006 onward, active/inactive status, cancelled status, information regarding any felony convictions, information regarding voter registration in another state, information regarding military status, and overseas citizen information.”

Critics are fearful that sensitive private data could become public if given to the commission and that investigators will use that information to create an inaccurate picture of voter fraud ― a relatively rare phenomenon in the U.S.

More: Trump's Election Investigation Is Already Facing Trouble | HuffPost

Does anyone believe Trump is asking for this information for honorable reasons? Anyone who is against a federal gun registry should also be against a federal voter registry of personal information. I thought Trump and his base were all about "smaller" government. Should the federal government be allowed to force states to provide this information? Just imagine if President Obama had requested such information.

There is a constitutional right to bear arms.

There is no constitutional right to vote.

Really? I beg to differ. BTW, the antiquated 2nd Amendment is confusing and only applies to arms of the time it was written.

As Professor Epps makes clear, not only is there a right to vote in the Constitution, but it’s the single right that appears most often in the Constitution’s text – five times in all. In fact, four separate Amendments – the 15th, 19th, 24th, and 26th – even use the same powerful language to protect it:

“The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged . . . .”​

Yes, There Is A Right To Vote In The Constitution

The phrase "right to vote" is mentioned just five times in the Constitution, and all of those references appear in the amendments. ... This amendment states "The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of sex."Nov 15, 2015

There is no actual constitutional provision stating that all citizens have the right to vote, only that votingrights cannot be dispensed on the basis of race or gender discrimination. A law requiring you to cut your hair short before voting, or dye it blue, or say “pretty please let me vote,” all might pass muster.Oct 21, 2014

To paraphrase 2nd amendment people: what part of "the right to vote " don't you understand?

What part about non-existent text do you not understand?

 

[Harry Dresden]

State officials are refusing to disclose data the commission wants, sometimes pointing to their own laws.

WASHINGTON ― President Donald Trump’s commission on election integrity is facing significant hurdles, as multiple state election officials have said they will not comply with the panel’s request this week for specific, sensitive voter information.

Even some Republican officials have said that they may be opposed to or prohibited from releasing such information or that they’re otherwise willing to do only the bare minimum in satisfying the Trump commission’s demands.

Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach (R), the commission’s vice chair who signed the letter sent to the states on Wednesday, told the Kansas City Star that his state would not release the last four digits of voters’ Social Security numbers because that information is not publicly available.

The requested information includes the “full first and last names of all registrants, middle names or initials if available, addresses, dates of birth, political party (if recorded in your state), last four digits of social security number if available, voter history (elections voted in) from 2006 onward, active/inactive status, cancelled status, information regarding any felony convictions, information regarding voter registration in another state, information regarding military status, and overseas citizen information.”

Critics are fearful that sensitive private data could become public if given to the commission and that investigators will use that information to create an inaccurate picture of voter fraud ― a relatively rare phenomenon in the U.S.

More: Trump's Election Investigation Is Already Facing Trouble | HuffPost

Does anyone believe Trump is asking for this information for honorable reasons? Anyone who is against a federal gun registry should also be against a federal voter registry of personal information. I thought Trump and his base were all about "smaller" government. Should the federal government be allowed to force states to provide this information? Just imagine if President Obama had requested such information.

There is a constitutional right to bear arms.

There is no constitutional right to vote.

Really? I beg to differ. BTW, the antiquated 2nd Amendment is confusing and only applies to arms of the time it was written.

As Professor Epps makes clear, not only is there a right to vote in the Constitution, but it’s the single right that appears most often in the Constitution’s text – five times in all. In fact, four separate Amendments – the 15th, 19th, 24th, and 26th – even use the same powerful language to protect it:

“The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged . . . .”​

Yes, There Is A Right To Vote In The Constitution

only applies to arms of the time it was written.
no shit?.....you mean they didnt consider automatic weapons?....

So the rest of the Constitution only applies to the time it was written. Free speech doesn't include TV, radio, the internet, billboards, etc.

How can that stupid argument still be made by anyone?

ask lakota.....

 

[Iceweasel]

"The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied

Hope this helps.

 

[Harry Dresden]

only applies to arms of the time it was written.
no shit?.....you mean they didnt consider automatic weapons?....

Oh, I see. So the first amendment doesn't apply to TV or mass media, correct?

ask lakota.....

 

[easyt65]

There are countless examples of that. Your spin is like saying that the government forces you to have children because it taxes you as 'monetary punishment' if you don't.

Wrong.

The govt doesn't force anyone to have kids. They provide a tax break for those who do.

Obama and the Democrats FORCED the American people to buy a product, imposing a penalty on thise who failed to comply...while Un-Constitutionally exempting themselves from the law they pushed onto everyone else.

 

[Timmy]

There are countless examples of that. Your spin is like saying that the government forces you to have children because it taxes you as 'monetary punishment' if you don't.

Wrong.

The govt doesn't force anyone to have kids. They provide a tax break for those who do.

Obama and the Democrats FORCED the American people to buy a product, imposing a penalty on thise who failed to comply...while Un-Constitutionally exempting themselves from the law they pushed onto everyone else.

Same difference. Me and my neighbor make the same money . He has a kid, I don't . I pay more taxes . I'm being punished for not having a child .

 

[easyt65]

There are countless examples of that. Your spin is like saying that the government forces you to have children because it taxes you as 'monetary punishment' if you don't.

Wrong.

The govt doesn't force anyone to have kids. They provide a tax break for those who do.

Obama and the Democrats FORCED the American people to buy a product, imposing a penalty on thise who failed to comply...while Un-Constitutionally exempting themselves from the law they pushed onto everyone else.

Same difference. Me and my neighbor make the same money . He has a kid, I don't . I pay more taxes . I'm being punished for not having a child .

No it's not.

The govt did not make your neighbor have a kid or make you NOT have a kid. The govt DID force everyone to buy a product.

 

[Timmy]

There are countless examples of that. Your spin is like saying that the government forces you to have children because it taxes you as 'monetary punishment' if you don't.

Wrong.

The govt doesn't force anyone to have kids. They provide a tax break for those who do.

Obama and the Democrats FORCED the American people to buy a product, imposing a penalty on thise who failed to comply...while Un-Constitutionally exempting themselves from the law they pushed onto everyone else.

Same difference. Me and my neighbor make the same money . He has a kid, I don't . I pay more taxes . I'm being punished for not having a child .

No it's not.

The govt did not make your neighbor have a kid or make you NOT have a kid. The govt DID force everyone to buy a product.

You are not forced . If you don't get insurance you get a tax hit .

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

State officials are refusing to disclose data the commission wants, sometimes pointing to their own laws.

WASHINGTON ― President Donald Trump’s commission on election integrity is facing significant hurdles, as multiple state election officials have said they will not comply with the panel’s request this week for specific, sensitive voter information.

Even some Republican officials have said that they may be opposed to or prohibited from releasing such information or that they’re otherwise willing to do only the bare minimum in satisfying the Trump commission’s demands.

Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach (R), the commission’s vice chair who signed the letter sent to the states on Wednesday, told the Kansas City Star that his state would not release the last four digits of voters’ Social Security numbers because that information is not publicly available.

The requested information includes the “full first and last names of all registrants, middle names or initials if available, addresses, dates of birth, political party (if recorded in your state), last four digits of social security number if available, voter history (elections voted in) from 2006 onward, active/inactive status, cancelled status, information regarding any felony convictions, information regarding voter registration in another state, information regarding military status, and overseas citizen information.”

Critics are fearful that sensitive private data could become public if given to the commission and that investigators will use that information to create an inaccurate picture of voter fraud ― a relatively rare phenomenon in the U.S.

More: Trump's Election Investigation Is Already Facing Trouble | HuffPost

Does anyone believe Trump is asking for this information for honorable reasons? Anyone who is against a federal gun registry should also be against a federal voter registry of personal information. I thought Trump and his base were all about "smaller" government. Should the federal government be allowed to force states to provide this information? Just imagine if President Obama had requested such information.

Federal gun registration? Federal voter registration? What's the diff?​

Trump’s bogus ‘commission’ is yet another example of conservative authoritarianism, the right’s contempt for personal privacy, and Republicans’ continued effort to propagate the lie of ‘voter fraud.’

 

[Cellblock2429]

State officials are refusing to disclose data the commission wants, sometimes pointing to their own laws.

WASHINGTON ― President Donald Trump’s commission on election integrity is facing significant hurdles, as multiple state election officials have said they will not comply with the panel’s request this week for specific, sensitive voter information.

Even some Republican officials have said that they may be opposed to or prohibited from releasing such information or that they’re otherwise willing to do only the bare minimum in satisfying the Trump commission’s demands.

Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach (R), the commission’s vice chair who signed the letter sent to the states on Wednesday, told the Kansas City Star that his state would not release the last four digits of voters’ Social Security numbers because that information is not publicly available.

The requested information includes the “full first and last names of all registrants, middle names or initials if available, addresses, dates of birth, political party (if recorded in your state), last four digits of social security number if available, voter history (elections voted in) from 2006 onward, active/inactive status, cancelled status, information regarding any felony convictions, information regarding voter registration in another state, information regarding military status, and overseas citizen information.”

Critics are fearful that sensitive private data could become public if given to the commission and that investigators will use that information to create an inaccurate picture of voter fraud ― a relatively rare phenomenon in the U.S.

More: Trump's Election Investigation Is Already Facing Trouble | HuffPost

Does anyone believe Trump is asking for this information for honorable reasons? Anyone who is against a federal gun registry should also be against a federal voter registry of personal information. I thought Trump and his base were all about "smaller" government. Should the federal government be allowed to force states to provide this information? Just imagine if President Obama had requested such information.

There is a constitutional right to bear arms.

There is no constitutional right to vote.

Really? I beg to differ. BTW, the antiquated 2nd Amendment is confusing and only applies to arms of the time it was written.

As Professor Epps makes clear, not only is there a right to vote in the Constitution, but it’s the single right that appears most often in the Constitution’s text – five times in all. In fact, four separate Amendments – the 15th, 19th, 24th, and 26th – even use the same powerful language to protect it:

“The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged . . . .”​

Yes, There Is A Right To Vote In The Constitution

/----- when will the liberals declare our other rights antiquated?


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[Lakhota]

State officials are refusing to disclose data the commission wants, sometimes pointing to their own laws.

WASHINGTON ― President Donald Trump’s commission on election integrity is facing significant hurdles, as multiple state election officials have said they will not comply with the panel’s request this week for specific, sensitive voter information.

Even some Republican officials have said that they may be opposed to or prohibited from releasing such information or that they’re otherwise willing to do only the bare minimum in satisfying the Trump commission’s demands.

Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach (R), the commission’s vice chair who signed the letter sent to the states on Wednesday, told the Kansas City Star that his state would not release the last four digits of voters’ Social Security numbers because that information is not publicly available.

The requested information includes the “full first and last names of all registrants, middle names or initials if available, addresses, dates of birth, political party (if recorded in your state), last four digits of social security number if available, voter history (elections voted in) from 2006 onward, active/inactive status, cancelled status, information regarding any felony convictions, information regarding voter registration in another state, information regarding military status, and overseas citizen information.”

Critics are fearful that sensitive private data could become public if given to the commission and that investigators will use that information to create an inaccurate picture of voter fraud ― a relatively rare phenomenon in the U.S.

More: Trump's Election Investigation Is Already Facing Trouble | HuffPost

Does anyone believe Trump is asking for this information for honorable reasons? Anyone who is against a federal gun registry should also be against a federal voter registry of personal information. I thought Trump and his base were all about "smaller" government. Should the federal government be allowed to force states to provide this information? Just imagine if President Obama had requested such information.

Federal gun registration? Federal voter registration? What's the diff?​

Trump’s bogus ‘commission’ is yet another example of conservative authoritarianism, the right’s contempt for personal privacy, and Republicans’ continued effort to propagate the lie of ‘voter fraud.’

I agree.