Can capitalism exist without a government

[gipper]

Okay. As you know, statists don't know what that means and what they consider government is never good.

I never say I oppose government. I always claim to oppose rulers and states.

Many anarchists say they oppose government, but then support councils, cooperatives, and other forms of organization. It seems dishonest.

Okay. The point is government as it is constituted TODAY... SUCKS. Let's not muddy the waters with irrelevant shit.

 

[Onyx]

Okay. The point is government as it is constituted TODAY... SUCKS. Let's not muddy the waters with irrelevant shit.

It isn't irrelevant. It is being intellectually honest.

What you oppose is not government, but rather the state. While governments tend to be arms of the state, there are many governing bodies that have no association with rulers or states.

When you conflate the terms, you are the one that ends up muddying the waters.

 

[PurpleOwl]

Okay. The point is government as it is constituted TODAY... SUCKS. Let's not muddy the waters with irrelevant shit.

It isn't irrelevant. It is being intellectually honest.

What you oppose is not government, but rather the state. While governments tend to be arms of the state, there are many governing bodies that have no association with rulers or states.

When you conflate the terms, you are the one that ends up muddying the waters.

he's using dogwhistles he's using the term government when he really means democracy

 

[anotherlife]

It is true that crony capitalism is generated by the unification of capitalism and state. This has now been achieved.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Okay. The point is government as it is constituted TODAY... SUCKS.

yes but it only sucks because there are too many liberals in it, exactly what our Founders wrote the Constitution to avoid.