Can Atheists be Moral?

[sealybobo]

unnatural behavior will never be accepted as moral

Like, flying a plane? Eating hot dogs? Birth control?

Eh, you could care less what I think about it and that's just fine with me...
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Because it doesn’t matter what you or I think. The point is what wasn’t moral 500 years ago to those people, is moral today to us. Even if you agree with the people 500 years ago.

Do you agree with muslims what is and isn’t moral? No. So morality is subjective.

 

[ding]

So you are saying we are following the wrong religion.

You seem to be contradicting yourself here.

Morality seems to be subjective among Christians. Look at how New England Christians are treating kraft after it was found out he participates in human trafficking. Compare that to the outrage of Michael Vick for dog fighting or ray rice for punching that woman in the elevator. Is forcing a woman to suck dicks for money better than one punch to the face?

Should kraft be forced to sell the team?

No. Humans are subjective. Morals are standards. Standards exist for reasons. When you deviate from the standard the reasons make themselves known through predictable surprises.

Is it ok for you to go have another woman give you a full body massage? Is it ok that your wife have a man give her a full body massage? Then your morals have loosened in 100 years. No man 100 years ago would think it’s ok for another man to give his wife a full body massage even if he was a professional.

A Muslim man today would think it completely immoral.

You’re a more liberal moral person.

Not me. I'm old fashioned that way.

Not the point. Did you get the point? Seems morality evolves

You missed the point. Man’s perception of morality changes.

 

[ding]

Not me. I'm old fashioned that way.

Haha, yeah, like a faith healer, or an alchemist.

Maybe one day you will be able to process normalization of deviance and predictable surprises but it doesn’t seem like today will be the day.

Until then be prepared to be surprised by life.

 

[ding]

Morality seems to be subjective among Christians.

I'm shocked. Shocked.

In just a couple generations we now realize two men or two women loving each Is completely moral.

There's never been a socialist movement without a free love movement so I wouldn't be surprised by anything man does.

Point is we are right now but wrong just a couple generations ago regarding two men loving each other.

Turns out it is very moral.

Only time and outcomes will tell.

 

[ding]

Not me. I'm old fashioned that way.

Haha, yeah, like a faith healer, or an alchemist.

This seems like one of those times where I have demonstrated that morality is subjective and all ding could come back with was that?

I consider that a win

Morality isn’t subjective. Man’s perception of morality is. Morals are effectively standards. Standards exist in and of themselves.

 

[sealybobo]

Not me. I'm old fashioned that way.

Haha, yeah, like a faith healer, or an alchemist.

This seems like one of those times where I have demonstrated that morality is subjective and all ding could come back with was that?

I consider that a win

Morality isn’t subjective. Man’s perception of morality is. Morals are effectively standards. Standards exist in and of themselves.

Nonsense. And I’ve given you plenty examples how it’s all in your head.

Watch the Orville. Great show. It’s like Star Trek where they visit other planets. On one planet it was immoral to be straight. Everyone was gay. They killed straights.

If we didn’t start covering our women’s bodies with clothes 50,000 years ago nudity wouldn’t be immoral.

 

[BreezeWood]

Not me. I'm old fashioned that way.

Haha, yeah, like a faith healer, or an alchemist.

This seems like one of those times where I have demonstrated that morality is subjective and all ding could come back with was that?

I consider that a win

Morality isn’t subjective. Man’s perception of morality is. Morals are effectively standards. Standards exist in and of themselves.

Nonsense. And I’ve given you plenty examples how it’s all in your head.

Watch the Orville. Great show. It’s like Star Trek where they visit other planets. On one planet it was immoral to be straight. Everyone was gay. They killed straights.

If we didn’t start covering our women’s bodies with clothes 50,000 years ago nudity wouldn’t be immoral.

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You missed the point. Man’s perception of morality changes.

Nonsense. And I’ve given you plenty examples how it’s all in your head.

morality is a construct - - from the underpinnings of evil vs good where over time one is allowed and the other isn't. per the original conclusions of the earliest religions.

christianity that aqueouses to evil rather than its elimination will be to their "predictable surprise" - over time their eventual extinction.

 

[ding]

Not me. I'm old fashioned that way.

Haha, yeah, like a faith healer, or an alchemist.

This seems like one of those times where I have demonstrated that morality is subjective and all ding could come back with was that?

I consider that a win

Morality isn’t subjective. Man’s perception of morality is. Morals are effectively standards. Standards exist in and of themselves.

Nonsense. And I’ve given you plenty examples how it’s all in your head.

Watch the Orville. Great show. It’s like Star Trek where they visit other planets. On one planet it was immoral to be straight. Everyone was gay. They killed straights.

If we didn’t start covering our women’s bodies with clothes 50,000 years ago nudity wouldn’t be immoral.

What you are describing is man’s perception of morality. Not morality itself.

 

[danielpalos]

can atheist women be moral about being willing to help us become, ClitLicker Pro's?

 

[sealybobo]

Not me. I'm old fashioned that way.

Haha, yeah, like a faith healer, or an alchemist.

This seems like one of those times where I have demonstrated that morality is subjective and all ding could come back with was that?

I consider that a win

Morality isn’t subjective. Man’s perception of morality is. Morals are effectively standards. Standards exist in and of themselves.

Nonsense. And I’ve given you plenty examples how it’s all in your head.

Watch the Orville. Great show. It’s like Star Trek where they visit other planets. On one planet it was immoral to be straight. Everyone was gay. They killed straights.

If we didn’t start covering our women’s bodies with clothes 50,000 years ago nudity wouldn’t be immoral.

.

You missed the point. Man’s perception of morality changes.

Nonsense. And I’ve given you plenty examples how it’s all in your head.

morality is a construct - - from the underpinnings of evil vs good where over time one is allowed and the other isn't. per the original conclusions of the earliest religions.

christianity that aqueouses to evil rather than its elimination will be to their "predictable surprise" - over time their eventual extinction.

Ding still doesn’t understand.

 

[sealybobo]

Not me. I'm old fashioned that way.

Haha, yeah, like a faith healer, or an alchemist.

This seems like one of those times where I have demonstrated that morality is subjective and all ding could come back with was that?

I consider that a win

Morality isn’t subjective. Man’s perception of morality is. Morals are effectively standards. Standards exist in and of themselves.

Nonsense. And I’ve given you plenty examples how it’s all in your head.

Watch the Orville. Great show. It’s like Star Trek where they visit other planets. On one planet it was immoral to be straight. Everyone was gay. They killed straights.

If we didn’t start covering our women’s bodies with clothes 50,000 years ago nudity wouldn’t be immoral.

What you are describing is man’s perception of morality. Not morality itself.

Do you eat cows? It can be said eating cows is immoral. Are you an immoral person?

 

[ding]

Haha, yeah, like a faith healer, or an alchemist.

This seems like one of those times where I have demonstrated that morality is subjective and all ding could come back with was that?

I consider that a win

Morality isn’t subjective. Man’s perception of morality is. Morals are effectively standards. Standards exist in and of themselves.

Nonsense. And I’ve given you plenty examples how it’s all in your head.

Watch the Orville. Great show. It’s like Star Trek where they visit other planets. On one planet it was immoral to be straight. Everyone was gay. They killed straights.

If we didn’t start covering our women’s bodies with clothes 50,000 years ago nudity wouldn’t be immoral.

.

You missed the point. Man’s perception of morality changes.

Nonsense. And I’ve given you plenty examples how it’s all in your head.

morality is a construct - - from the underpinnings of evil vs good where over time one is allowed and the other isn't. per the original conclusions of the earliest religions.

christianity that aqueouses to evil rather than its elimination will be to their "predictable surprise" - over time their eventual extinction.

Ding still doesn’t understand.

But I do. You are confusing man's changing perception of morality with morality changing. Morality just is.

 

[ding]

Haha, yeah, like a faith healer, or an alchemist.

This seems like one of those times where I have demonstrated that morality is subjective and all ding could come back with was that?

I consider that a win

Morality isn’t subjective. Man’s perception of morality is. Morals are effectively standards. Standards exist in and of themselves.

Nonsense. And I’ve given you plenty examples how it’s all in your head.

Watch the Orville. Great show. It’s like Star Trek where they visit other planets. On one planet it was immoral to be straight. Everyone was gay. They killed straights.

If we didn’t start covering our women’s bodies with clothes 50,000 years ago nudity wouldn’t be immoral.

What you are describing is man’s perception of morality. Not morality itself.

Do you eat cows? It can be said eating cows is immoral. Are you an immoral person?

Yes, it can be said that. In fact, if we want to find the highest possible standard then not taking any life at all for any reason would be it.

 

[ding]

Haha, yeah, like a faith healer, or an alchemist.

This seems like one of those times where I have demonstrated that morality is subjective and all ding could come back with was that?

I consider that a win

Morality isn’t subjective. Man’s perception of morality is. Morals are effectively standards. Standards exist in and of themselves.

Nonsense. And I’ve given you plenty examples how it’s all in your head.

Watch the Orville. Great show. It’s like Star Trek where they visit other planets. On one planet it was immoral to be straight. Everyone was gay. They killed straights.

If we didn’t start covering our women’s bodies with clothes 50,000 years ago nudity wouldn’t be immoral.

What you are describing is man’s perception of morality. Not morality itself.

Do you eat cows? It can be said eating cows is immoral. Are you an immoral person?

Do you eat vegetables? Vegetables are living organisms too, right?

 

[Wyatt earp]

Haha, yeah, like a faith healer, or an alchemist.

This seems like one of those times where I have demonstrated that morality is subjective and all ding could come back with was that?

I consider that a win

Morality isn’t subjective. Man’s perception of morality is. Morals are effectively standards. Standards exist in and of themselves.

Nonsense. And I’ve given you plenty examples how it’s all in your head.

Watch the Orville. Great show. It’s like Star Trek where they visit other planets. On one planet it was immoral to be straight. Everyone was gay. They killed straights.

If we didn’t start covering our women’s bodies with clothes 50,000 years ago nudity wouldn’t be immoral.

What you are describing is man’s perception of morality. Not morality itself.

Do you eat cows? It can be said eating cows is immoral. Are you an immoral person?

by whom Chick-Fli-A ?

 

[BreezeWood]

Haha, yeah, like a faith healer, or an alchemist.

This seems like one of those times where I have demonstrated that morality is subjective and all ding could come back with was that?

I consider that a win

Morality isn’t subjective. Man’s perception of morality is. Morals are effectively standards. Standards exist in and of themselves.

Nonsense. And I’ve given you plenty examples how it’s all in your head.

Watch the Orville. Great show. It’s like Star Trek where they visit other planets. On one planet it was immoral to be straight. Everyone was gay. They killed straights.

If we didn’t start covering our women’s bodies with clothes 50,000 years ago nudity wouldn’t be immoral.

.

You missed the point. Man’s perception of morality changes.

Nonsense. And I’ve given you plenty examples how it’s all in your head.

morality is a construct - - from the underpinnings of evil vs good where over time one is allowed and the other isn't. per the original conclusions of the earliest religions.

christianity that aqueouses to evil rather than its elimination will be to their "predictable surprise" - over time their eventual extinction.

Ding still doesn’t understand.

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Ding still doesn’t understand.

especially when he is unable not to sin ... how moral is that or what really is the christian talking about ...

 

[ding]

Are you an immoral person?

I never claimed to be a saint.

I’m a sinner.

 

[BreezeWood]

I’m a sinner.

what sins are you unable to get a fix on ... do you even try.

 

[RWS]

Morality is an evolutionary trait.

Superiority is a religious trait.

 

[cnm]

christianity that aqueouses to evil rather than its elimination will be to their "predictable surprise" - over time their eventual extinction.

By drowning?