California’s new solar power plant is actually a death ray that’s incinerating birds mid-flight

[gallantwarrior]

how many birds, fish and animals died from the Exxon Valdez Alaskan oil spill or the BP deep water Horizon oil spill catastrophe etc....

unforeseen circumstances?

or simply

SH*T HAPPENS!

The difference is Exxon Valdez and the Deepwater Horizion spills were caused by accidents, i.e. things not working as intended. Wind turbines and the focused solar collectors have bird issues while operating as intended.

And the cars on the roads by the wind farms kill more raptors than do the mills. High tension wires and communication towers also kill more birds. So why not address those first?

But we know why those are not being addressed. Because this is an ideological piece of bullshit, has nothing to do with caring for birds or any part of the environment. The big fossil energy corporations are afraid of what solar and wind are doing to their market, and are passing out talking points to people with no brains.

The only reason I bring it up is you idiots think wind and solar come from nothing, cause no harm, and have no impacts. You have to sell it like that to overcome the obvious weakness of both, the intermittent nature of the provided power.

You are typical of your type, any criticism of your cherished concepts has to be destroyed, even if they are valid points.

Gotta love the mentality that also touts the benefits of battery powered vehicles. Where does the electricity come from to charge their batteries?

And the batteries themselves are worse on the environment than gasoline.

Same thing with their wonder light bulbs.

 

[deannalw]

I have little regard for the fools that believe the split tongued two dicked gnat is more important than humans.
Do you eat meat?
Live in a home with all the death and destruction needed to build?
Do you have leather belongings?
Chow on eggs and dairy with all the lil slave animals?
Do you visit zoos, the circus or any other place that puts animals in cages so folks can peer at them mindlessly?
The list goes on of the hypocrisy of folks stamping a foot for animals while fully contributing to the problem they profess to loathe

Yes. I hunt and fish. I have slave animals for dairy and eggs (they don't seem to have a complaint). I harvest my slave animals for meat and leather. I don't have time for zoos or circuses. I'm not seeing how that all makes me a hypocrite.

You misunderstand me. I don't believe people that chow on meat or do any of those things are hypocrites.
I believe those that are high handed about it but do do those things are hypocrites.
I eat meat here and there. I own leather things etc. Hubby hunts and we both fish

Check!
There are lots of people who obviously feel superior because they don't eat meat (yeah, right), use leather, etc. They are totally ignorant about where the products they use come from. One class I attended went around the room and identified the source of the items therein. YOU might not be surprised how many of the things we use every day are petroleum based, but lots of others have no clue, obviously.

I agree 100%. I have a couple environmental wackos in my friend and family list. I don't think they're dangerous... yet... but their asshole attitudes can sometimes make for interesting holidays and get together.I told my crazy cousin her electric car probably did more damage in the making and batteries and shit than my big ass truck will ever do and I thought she was going to lunge across the table and gouge out my eyes with a turkey drumstick.
So yikes

 

[koshergrl]

I have little regard for the fools that believe the split tongued two dicked gnat is more important than humans.
Do you eat meat?
Live in a home with all the death and destruction needed to build?
Do you have leather belongings?
Chow on eggs and dairy with all the lil slave animals?
Do you visit zoos, the circus or any other place that puts animals in cages so folks can peer at them mindlessly?
The list goes on of the hypocrisy of folks stamping a foot for animals while fully contributing to the problem they profess to loathe

Yes. I hunt and fish. I have slave animals for dairy and eggs (they don't seem to have a complaint). I harvest my slave animals for meat and leather. I don't have time for zoos or circuses. I'm not seeing how that all makes me a hypocrite.

You misunderstand me. I don't believe people that chow on meat or do any of those things are hypocrites.
I believe those that are high handed about it but do do those things are hypocrites.
I eat meat here and there. I own leather things etc. Hubby hunts and we both fish

Check!
There are lots of people who obviously feel superior because they don't eat meat (yeah, right), use leather, etc. They are totally ignorant about where the products they use come from. One class I attended went around the room and identified the source of the items therein. YOU might not be surprised how many of the things we use every day are petroleum based, but lots of others have no clue, obviously.

I agree 100%. I have a couple environmental wackos in my friend and family list. I don't think they're dangerous... yet... but their asshole attitudes can sometimes make for interesting holidays and get together.I told my crazy cousin her electric car probably did more damage in the making and batteries and shit than my big ass truck will ever do and I thought she was going to lunge across the table and gouge out my eyes with a turkey drumstick.
So yikes

They're nuts.

They're also cowardly.

 

[deannalw]

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I have little regard for the fools that believe the split tongued two dicked gnat is more important than humans.
Do you eat meat?
Live in a home with all the death and destruction needed to build?
Do you have leather belongings?
Chow on eggs and dairy with all the lil slave animals?
Do you visit zoos, the circus or any other place that puts animals in cages so folks can peer at them mindlessly?
The list goes on of the hypocrisy of folks stamping a foot for animals while fully contributing to the problem they profess to loathe

Yes. I hunt and fish. I have slave animals for dairy and eggs (they don't seem to have a complaint). I harvest my slave animals for meat and leather. I don't have time for zoos or circuses. I'm not seeing how that all makes me a hypocrite.

You misunderstand me. I don't believe people that chow on meat or do any of those things are hypocrites.
I believe those that are high handed about it but do do those things are hypocrites.
I eat meat here and there. I own leather things etc. Hubby hunts and we both fish

Check!
There are lots of people who obviously feel superior because they don't eat meat (yeah, right), use leather, etc. They are totally ignorant about where the products they use come from. One class I attended went around the room and identified the source of the items therein. YOU might not be surprised how many of the things we use every day are petroleum based, but lots of others have no clue, obviously.

I agree 100%. I have a couple environmental wackos in my friend and family list. I don't think they're dangerous... yet... but their asshole attitudes can sometimes make for interesting holidays and get together.I told my crazy cousin her electric car probably did more damage in the making and batteries and shit than my big ass truck will ever do and I thought she was going to lunge across the table and gouge out my eyes with a turkey drumstick.
So yikes

They're nuts.

They're also cowardly.

It's all a part of being way far left of sane. Some even believe there are far too many of us humans and think maybe a catastrophe of epic proportions need to happen asap. Killing a million people will save 3, count em... THREE bow-legged fleas!

 

[Syriusly]

Now they want to put giant floating wind turbine towers hundreds of feet high off the coast of California. Can anyone imagine the maintenance costs per year? That alone would dwarf any benefit. Not to mention if one broke loose and washed ashore taking out some starlets beach house.

I hear those are real bad, they are killing farm animals too, They will keep shoving this under the rug , calling it a conspiracy because once again the big stock holding pricks will pay off people etc, etc ..........
I mean common sense would tell most people it unbalances the natural occurrences of everything .......

Some people even claim seizures, some ended up with heart issues. I'll see if I can find that video.

Giant floating wind turbines are killing fam animals?

LOL

You folks crack me up.

You would happily dine on roasted bald eagle if you had a chance to shoot it, and have no problem with the birds killed by power lines, or left over lead shot, or automobiles- or by habitat destruction of strip coal mining- but if a bird gets killed by an 'alternate' energy- you cry crocodile ears.

Let me know when you express concern for the vast majority of birds who die due to other man made causes- and then maybe I will take your 'concern' seriously.

 

[deannalw]

The issue in the OP was solar, not wind.
I don't give a fuck if it fries a bird a minute

 

[MindWars]

Now they want to put giant floating wind turbine towers hundreds of feet high off the coast of California. Can anyone imagine the maintenance costs per year? That alone would dwarf any benefit. Not to mention if one broke loose and washed ashore taking out some starlets beach house.

I hear those are real bad, they are killing farm animals too, They will keep shoving this under the rug , calling it a conspiracy because once again the big stock holding pricks will pay off people etc, etc ..........
I mean common sense would tell most people it unbalances the natural occurrences of everything .......

Some people even claim seizures, some ended up with heart issues. I'll see if I can find that video.

Giant floating wind turbines are killing fam animals?

LOL

You folks crack me up.

You would happily dine on roasted bald eagle if you had a chance to shoot it, and have no problem with the birds killed by power lines, or left over lead shot, or automobiles- or by habitat destruction of strip coal mining- but if a bird gets killed by an 'alternate' energy- you cry crocodile ears.

Let me know when you express concern for the vast majority of birds who die due to other man made causes- and then maybe I will take your 'concern' seriously.

WTF do you call this

At least 121 structural failures have been recorded too, including entire wind turbines that have crashed to the ground. The website www.windaction.org documents many of these. Turbines have crashed to the ground in school yards, near homes, roads and walking paths where only by sheer luck was no one underneath when the multi-ton structures collapsed. In the Palm Springs area, a turbine spinning out of control forced closure of a major highway. There are also concerns about many turbines still standing –where failures such as cracked foundations and sinkage have been observed.



THE DARK SIDE OF “GREEN”: WIND TURBINE ACCIDENTS, INJURIES AND FATALITIES RAISE SERIOUS SAFETY CONCERNS

 

[MindWars]

maybe when SHEEPLE learn how to RESEARCH and get UNLAZY they can come out of their IDIOT SHELL OF NOT KNOWING A FKGING THING..


County votes against study into wind project 3 May
Michigan Voters say no to more wind development 3 May
Indiana Emails appear to indicate possible conflict of interest 3 May
Michigan DTE Energy and NextEra Energy Huron County wind plans devastated by vote 3 May
USA Scallops vs. Wind Energy: Consideration of Alternative Sites for Off-Shore Wind Farms 1 May
Rhode Island Block Island to start getting power from wind turbines 1 May
Massachusetts Fairhaven wind turbine catches fire 27 Apr
USA Michigan OklahomaOntario Missouri Big ‘Green’ and Mean: A Wind-Energy Giant Attacks Small-Town America 2 May
Massachusetts Falmouth’s Wind Paradox 30 Apr
North Dakota Wind turbine bill passes in Legislature 28 Apr
Massachusetts Not exactly a breeze: Offshore wind still faces challenges

 

[MindWars]

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maybe when SHEEPLE learn how to RESEARCH and get UNLAZY they can come out of their IDIOT SHELL OF NOT KNOWING A FKGING THING..


County votes against study into wind project 3 May
Michigan Voters say no to more wind development 3 May
Indiana Emails appear to indicate possible conflict of interest 3 May
Michigan DTE Energy and NextEra Energy Huron County wind plans devastated by vote 3 May
USA Scallops vs. Wind Energy: Consideration of Alternative Sites for Off-Shore Wind Farms 1 May
Rhode Island Block Island to start getting power from wind turbines 1 May
Massachusetts Fairhaven wind turbine catches fire 27 Apr
USA Michigan OklahomaOntario Missouri Big ‘Green’ and Mean: A Wind-Energy Giant Attacks Small-Town America 2 May
Massachusetts Falmouth’s Wind Paradox 30 Apr
North Dakota Wind turbine bill passes in Legislature 28 Apr
Massachusetts Not exactly a breeze: Offshore wind still faces challenges

WindAction | County votes against study into wind project

 

[koshergrl]

 

[koshergrl]

I know I know it's a solar power thread but still

 

[BuckToothMoron]

Agent Smith: I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species and I realized that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You're a plague and we are the cure.

Actually beavers are mammals and also alter their environment to suit themslves just like man. They enter into a stream valley, clear the valley of trees, and damn the streams creating ponds. Hope you enjoyed your time here on this planet, and I'm sorry you never saw a beaver. They are really fascinating rodents.

I wish I could see a beaver...but out in the wild. No worries about them being whipped into a stew from monster blades. Oh. Wait. I'm sure something can be done to rectify that since the dam might be in the way of progress for humans.

Uh fellow, beavers don't fly. And their dams, in the appropriate areas, are a boon to man and most other species.

Had you read Gracie's post, you would have seen the claim that humans are there I was merely p

Agent Smith: I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species and I realized that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You're a plague and we are the cure.

Actually beavers are mammals and also alter their environment to suit themslves just like man. They enter into a stream valley, clear the valley of trees, and damn the streams creating ponds. Hope you enjoyed your time here on this planet, and I'm sorry you never saw a beaver. They are really fascinating rodents.

I wish I could see a beaver...but out in the wild. No worries about them being whipped into a stew from monster blades. Oh. Wait. I'm sure something can be done to rectify that since the dam might be in the way of progress for humans.

I've seen loads of beavers, and their dams. They are fascinating and their geoengineering has mostly beneficial effects. It's when they decide to set up shop in human inhabited areas that their efforts are unappreciated. They can flood a subdivision in no time flat.
There was on lake we used to fish in using tubes. It wasn't unusual to have a beaver approach, slap the water with its tail, and then dive down between your legs while they were trying to determine whether you were a threat. Way coool!

Yea, they are way kewl. They often slap their tails as a danger alert.

 

[jon_berzerk]

California's new solar power plant is actually a death ray that's incinerating birds mid-flight - ExtremeTech
What spans 1,600 hectares, cost $2.2 billion to build, and potentially fries hundreds of thousands of birds per year? The new BrightSource solar power plant in California’s Mojave Dessert. The plant, which uses some 350,000 garage-door-sized mirrors to focus sunlight on three boiler towers, also acts as a death ray, instantly igniting and killing any wildlife that happen to fly through the intense beam of light. Wildlife officials are concerned that this concentrated solar power plant, and others like it, could turn into “mega-trap” that decimates the ecosystem — first attracting insects, and then attracting birds that eat insects. BrightSource, in the mean time, is forging ahead with an even larger solar power plant that officials say could kill four times as many birds. Won’t somebody stop these not-so-green nature-killing maniacs?

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Oh look the brainy scientist are so smart, using some bs based of money ,and oh those millionaires wouldn't want to tell you it's a fk up because imagine how the billions they'd lose in stocks. That money is more important than the health of their peasants.

Science is never wrong they know everything .

they don't know everything,

but they are problem solvers....

And it seems like they could create some sort of bird whistle like a deer whistle that surrounds the plant or some kind of invisible electrical fence that could steer the birds away from the frying area???

deer whistles dont work

it is a fraud

Really? Darn! Was just getting ready buy one for the hubby.....he had 3 deer accidents last fall!!!

Someone on this site swore they work....

Bummer.....we had another warm winter so the State's Deer Herd has near doubled....bad for drivers though.

yeah somewhere i have read the research on how well they work

and the consensus is not very well

what does work

is to stay alert

when in deer country

 

[jon_berzerk]

California's new solar power plant is actually a death ray that's incinerating birds mid-flight - ExtremeTech
What spans 1,600 hectares, cost $2.2 billion to build, and potentially fries hundreds of thousands of birds per year? The new BrightSource solar power plant in California’s Mojave Dessert. The plant, which uses some 350,000 garage-door-sized mirrors to focus sunlight on three boiler towers, also acts as a death ray, instantly igniting and killing any wildlife that happen to fly through the intense beam of light. Wildlife officials are concerned that this concentrated solar power plant, and others like it, could turn into “mega-trap” that decimates the ecosystem — first attracting insects, and then attracting birds that eat insects. BrightSource, in the mean time, is forging ahead with an even larger solar power plant that officials say could kill four times as many birds. Won’t somebody stop these not-so-green nature-killing maniacs?

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Oh look the brainy scientist are so smart, using some bs based of money ,and oh those millionaires wouldn't want to tell you it's a fk up because imagine how the billions they'd lose in stocks. That money is more important than the health of their peasants.

Science is never wrong they know everything .

they don't know everything,

but they are problem solvers....

And it seems like they could create some sort of bird whistle like a deer whistle that surrounds the plant or some kind of invisible electrical fence that could steer the birds away from the frying area???

deer whistles dont work

it is a fraud

Really? Darn! Was just getting ready buy one for the hubby.....he had 3 deer accidents last fall!!!

Someone on this site swore they work....

Bummer.....we had another warm winter so the State's Deer Herd has near doubled....bad for drivers though.

Hunting helps thin the herd and fills freezers

that helps to cut the numbers down

 

[Syriusly]

Now they want to put giant floating wind turbine towers hundreds of feet high off the coast of California. Can anyone imagine the maintenance costs per year? That alone would dwarf any benefit. Not to mention if one broke loose and washed ashore taking out some starlets beach house.

I hear those are real bad, they are killing farm animals too, They will keep shoving this under the rug , calling it a conspiracy because once again the big stock holding pricks will pay off people etc, etc ..........
I mean common sense would tell most people it unbalances the natural occurrences of everything .......

Some people even claim seizures, some ended up with heart issues. I'll see if I can find that video.

Giant floating wind turbines are killing fam animals?

LOL

You folks crack me up.

You would happily dine on roasted bald eagle if you had a chance to shoot it, and have no problem with the birds killed by power lines, or left over lead shot, or automobiles- or by habitat destruction of strip coal mining- but if a bird gets killed by an 'alternate' energy- you cry crocodile ears.

Let me know when you express concern for the vast majority of birds who die due to other man made causes- and then maybe I will take your 'concern' seriously.

WTF do you call this

A whole lot of Konspiracy Kraziness- directed at any form of energy that doesn't involve fossil fuels.

 

[Syriusly]

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maybe when SHEEPLE learn how to RESEARCH and get UNLAZY they can come out of their IDIOT SHELL OF NOT KNOWING A FKGING THING..

LOL- you Konspiracy Sheeple are always running around with your fake news.

 

[Syriusly]

Kingston Fossil Plant coal fly ash slurry spill - Wikipedia

The TVA Kingston Fossil Plant coal fly ash slurry spill occurred just before 1 a.m. on Monday December 22, 2008, when an ash dike ruptured at an 84-acre (0.34 km2) solid waste containment area at the Tennessee Valley Authority's Kingston Fossil Plant in Roane County, Tennessee, USA. 1.1 billion US gallons (4,200,000 m3) of coal fly ash slurry was released. T

The coal industry not only incinerates birds- it smothers fish.

 

[Syriusly]

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WindAction | County votes against study into wind project

Country votes against a study- your kind of sheeple!

Like you- they don't even want evidence to ruin their fantasy that everything other than coal is bad for America.

 

[MindWars]

Keep telling yourself that LOL

 

[deannalw]

Now they want to put giant floating wind turbine towers hundreds of feet high off the coast of California. Can anyone imagine the maintenance costs per year? That alone would dwarf any benefit. Not to mention if one broke loose and washed ashore taking out some starlets beach house.

I hear those are real bad, they are killing farm animals too, They will keep shoving this under the rug , calling it a conspiracy because once again the big stock holding pricks will pay off people etc, etc ..........
I mean common sense would tell most people it unbalances the natural occurrences of everything .......

Some people even claim seizures, some ended up with heart issues. I'll see if I can find that video.

Giant floating wind turbines are killing fam animals?

LOL

You folks crack me up.

You would happily dine on roasted bald eagle if you had a chance to shoot it, and have no problem with the birds killed by power lines, or left over lead shot, or automobiles- or by habitat destruction of strip coal mining- but if a bird gets killed by an 'alternate' energy- you cry crocodile ears.

Let me know when you express concern for the vast majority of birds who die due to other man made causes- and then maybe I will take your 'concern' seriously.

WTF do you call this

A whole lot of Konspiracy Kraziness- directed at any form of energy that doesn't involve fossil fuels.

You spelled conspiracy craziness wrong