California’s new solar power plant is actually a death ray that’s incinerating birds mid-flight

Agent Smith: I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species and I realized that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You're a plague and we are the cure.

Actually beavers are mammals and also alter their environment to suit themslves just like man. They enter into a stream valley, clear the valley of trees, and damn the streams creating ponds. Hope you enjoyed your time here on this planet, and I'm sorry you never saw a beaver. They are really fascinating rodents.
 
Agent Smith: I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species and I realized that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You're a plague and we are the cure.

Actually beavers are mammals and also alter their environment to suit themslves just like man. They enter into a stream valley, clear the valley of trees, and damn the streams creating ponds. Hope you enjoyed your time here on this planet, and I'm sorry you never saw a beaver. They are really fascinating rodents.
I wish I could see a beaver...but out in the wild. No worries about them being whipped into a stew from monster blades. Oh. Wait. I'm sure something can be done to rectify that since the dam might be in the way of progress for humans.
 
I have little regard for the fools that believe the split tongued two dicked gnat is more important than humans.
Do you eat meat?
Live in a home with all the death and destruction needed to build?
Do you have leather belongings?
Chow on eggs and dairy with all the lil slave animals?
Do you visit zoos, the circus or any other place that puts animals in cages so folks can peer at them mindlessly?
The list goes on of the hypocrisy of folks stamping a foot for animals while fully contributing to the problem they profess to loathe

I don't eat meat, don't have leather stuff, don't eat eggs, don't visit zoos (what's the point, go see animals in their natural habitat. I've seen all sorts of animals wild, it's far better)
Do you wear plastic? How about cotton? Like linen, do you? Well, here's a news flash: most synthetic products are petroleum based. Any "natural" fabric is produced from plants grown on ground that has been stripped and cleared, and otherwise denied the natural inhabitants, just like most crops.
When it comes to destroying Nature and the planet, who's the hypocrite?

Oh, please.... save me the theatrics.
 
Wind mills and birds;

Bird_mortality_chart.jpg


Causes of Bird Mortality - Sibley Guides

I really don't think that we will see any more of the molten salt solar generators. While the have the potential to be 24/7, the continuing price decrease in with and solar photovoltaic have made it economically unfeasable. Same as coal.
 
Agent Smith: I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species and I realized that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You're a plague and we are the cure.

Actually beavers are mammals and also alter their environment to suit themslves just like man. They enter into a stream valley, clear the valley of trees, and damn the streams creating ponds. Hope you enjoyed your time here on this planet, and I'm sorry you never saw a beaver. They are really fascinating rodents.
I wish I could see a beaver...but out in the wild. No worries about them being whipped into a stew from monster blades. Oh. Wait. I'm sure something can be done to rectify that since the dam might be in the way of progress for humans.
Uh fellow, beavers don't fly. And their dams, in the appropriate areas, are a boon to man and most other species.
 
how many birds, fish and animals died from the Exxon Valdez Alaskan oil spill or the BP deep water Horizon oil spill catastrophe etc....

unforeseen circumstances?

or simply

SH*T HAPPENS!

The difference is Exxon Valdez and the Deepwater Horizion spills were caused by accidents, i.e. things not working as intended. Wind turbines and the focused solar collectors have bird issues while operating as intended.
 
how many birds, fish and animals died from the Exxon Valdez Alaskan oil spill or the BP deep water Horizon oil spill catastrophe etc....

unforeseen circumstances?

or simply

SH*T HAPPENS!

The difference is Exxon Valdez and the Deepwater Horizion spills were caused by accidents, i.e. things not working as intended. Wind turbines and the focused solar collectors have bird issues while operating as intended.
And the cars on the roads by the wind farms kill more raptors than do the mills. High tension wires and communication towers also kill more birds. So why not address those first?

But we know why those are not being addressed. Because this is an ideological piece of bullshit, has nothing to do with caring for birds or any part of the environment. The big fossil energy corporations are afraid of what solar and wind are doing to their market, and are passing out talking points to people with no brains.
 
California's new solar power plant is actually a death ray that's incinerating birds mid-flight - ExtremeTech
What spans 1,600 hectares, cost $2.2 billion to build, and potentially fries hundreds of thousands of birds per year? The new BrightSource solar power plant in California’s Mojave Dessert. The plant, which uses some 350,000 garage-door-sized mirrors to focus sunlight on three boiler towers, also acts as a death ray, instantly igniting and killing any wildlife that happen to fly through the intense beam of light. Wildlife officials are concerned that this concentrated solar power plant, and others like it, could turn into “mega-trap” that decimates the ecosystem — first attracting insects, and then attracting birds that eat insects. BrightSource, in the mean time, is forging ahead with an even larger solar power plant that officials say could kill four times as many birds. Won’t somebody stop these not-so-green nature-killing maniacs?

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Oh look the brainy scientist are so smart, using some bs based of money ,and oh those millionaires wouldn't want to tell you it's a fk up because imagine how the billions they'd lose in stocks. That money is more important than the health of their peasants.

Science is never wrong they know everything .
they don't know everything,

but they are problem solvers....

And it seems like they could create some sort of bird whistle like a deer whistle that surrounds the plant or some kind of invisible electrical fence that could steer the birds away from the frying area???

deer whistles dont work

it is a fraud
 
how many birds, fish and animals died from the Exxon Valdez Alaskan oil spill or the BP deep water Horizon oil spill catastrophe etc....

unforeseen circumstances?

or simply

SH*T HAPPENS!

The difference is Exxon Valdez and the Deepwater Horizion spills were caused by accidents, i.e. things not working as intended. Wind turbines and the focused solar collectors have bird issues while operating as intended.
And the cars on the roads by the wind farms kill more raptors than do the mills. High tension wires and communication towers also kill more birds. So why not address those first?

But we know why those are not being addressed. Because this is an ideological piece of bullshit, has nothing to do with caring for birds or any part of the environment. The big fossil energy corporations are afraid of what solar and wind are doing to their market, and are passing out talking points to people with no brains.

The only reason I bring it up is you idiots think wind and solar come from nothing, cause no harm, and have no impacts. You have to sell it like that to overcome the obvious weakness of both, the intermittent nature of the provided power.

You are typical of your type, any criticism of your cherished concepts has to be destroyed, even if they are valid points.
 
Oil and coal kill off more animals than wind generation and solar panels.......Where's the beef about that?
 
Now they want to put giant floating wind turbine towers hundreds of feet high off the coast of California. Can anyone imagine the maintenance costs per year? That alone would dwarf any benefit. Not to mention if one broke loose and washed ashore taking out some starlets beach house.

I hear those are real bad, they are killing farm animals too, They will keep shoving this under the rug , calling it a conspiracy because once again the big stock holding pricks will pay off people etc, etc ..........
I mean common sense would tell most people it unbalances the natural occurrences of everything .......

Some people even claim seizures, some ended up with heart issues. I'll see if I can find that video.
What farm animals? Are you aware of where the CA solar farm is?
 
California's new solar power plant is actually a death ray that's incinerating birds mid-flight - ExtremeTech
What spans 1,600 hectares, cost $2.2 billion to build, and potentially fries hundreds of thousands of birds per year? The new BrightSource solar power plant in California’s Mojave Dessert. The plant, which uses some 350,000 garage-door-sized mirrors to focus sunlight on three boiler towers, also acts as a death ray, instantly igniting and killing any wildlife that happen to fly through the intense beam of light. Wildlife officials are concerned that this concentrated solar power plant, and others like it, could turn into “mega-trap” that decimates the ecosystem — first attracting insects, and then attracting birds that eat insects. BrightSource, in the mean time, is forging ahead with an even larger solar power plant that officials say could kill four times as many birds. Won’t somebody stop these not-so-green nature-killing maniacs?

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Oh look the brainy scientist are so smart, using some bs based of money ,and oh those millionaires wouldn't want to tell you it's a fk up because imagine how the billions they'd lose in stocks. That money is more important than the health of their peasants.

Science is never wrong they know everything .
they don't know everything,

but they are problem solvers....

And it seems like they could create some sort of bird whistle like a deer whistle that surrounds the plant or some kind of invisible electrical fence that could steer the birds away from the frying area???

deer whistles dont work

it is a fraud
Really? Darn! Was just getting ready buy one for the hubby.....he had 3 deer accidents last fall!!!

Someone on this site swore they work....

Bummer.....we had another warm winter so the State's Deer Herd has near doubled....bad for drivers though.
 
Now they want to put giant floating wind turbine towers hundreds of feet high off the coast of California. Can anyone imagine the maintenance costs per year? That alone would dwarf any benefit. Not to mention if one broke loose and washed ashore taking out some starlets beach house.

I hear those are real bad, they are killing farm animals too, They will keep shoving this under the rug , calling it a conspiracy because once again the big stock holding pricks will pay off people etc, etc ..........
I mean common sense would tell most people it unbalances the natural occurrences of everything .......

Some people even claim seizures, some ended up with heart issues. I'll see if I can find that video.

There are literally thousands of wind turbines in my county and no claims of illness or injury. Nor are the wildlife hazard that has been claimed. The windmills are clean, quiet and a vital part of the local economy.
 
Agent Smith: I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species and I realized that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You're a plague and we are the cure.

Actually beavers are mammals and also alter their environment to suit themslves just like man. They enter into a stream valley, clear the valley of trees, and damn the streams creating ponds. Hope you enjoyed your time here on this planet, and I'm sorry you never saw a beaver. They are really fascinating rodents.
I wish I could see a beaver...but out in the wild. No worries about them being whipped into a stew from monster blades. Oh. Wait. I'm sure something can be done to rectify that since the dam might be in the way of progress for humans.
I've seen loads of beavers, and their dams. They are fascinating and their geoengineering has mostly beneficial effects. It's when they decide to set up shop in human inhabited areas that their efforts are unappreciated. They can flood a subdivision in no time flat.
There was on lake we used to fish in using tubes. It wasn't unusual to have a beaver approach, slap the water with its tail, and then dive down between your legs while they were trying to determine whether you were a threat. Way coool!
 
I have little regard for the fools that believe the split tongued two dicked gnat is more important than humans.
Do you eat meat?
Live in a home with all the death and destruction needed to build?
Do you have leather belongings?
Chow on eggs and dairy with all the lil slave animals?
Do you visit zoos, the circus or any other place that puts animals in cages so folks can peer at them mindlessly?
The list goes on of the hypocrisy of folks stamping a foot for animals while fully contributing to the problem they profess to loathe

I don't eat meat, don't have leather stuff, don't eat eggs, don't visit zoos (what's the point, go see animals in their natural habitat. I've seen all sorts of animals wild, it's far better)
Do you wear plastic? How about cotton? Like linen, do you? Well, here's a news flash: most synthetic products are petroleum based. Any "natural" fabric is produced from plants grown on ground that has been stripped and cleared, and otherwise denied the natural inhabitants, just like most crops.
When it comes to destroying Nature and the planet, who's the hypocrite?

Oh, please.... save me the theatrics.
Oh, please...save me your hypocrisy.
Better yet, lead the way, save the planet on a very close-up, personal level. One less hypocrite won't be missed but your impact on the planet would have a positive effect.
 
how many birds, fish and animals died from the Exxon Valdez Alaskan oil spill or the BP deep water Horizon oil spill catastrophe etc....

unforeseen circumstances?

or simply

SH*T HAPPENS!

That's right.

I'm fine with idiots investing in wind turbines if they want.

I'm not okay with federal funds going into them.
 
how many birds, fish and animals died from the Exxon Valdez Alaskan oil spill or the BP deep water Horizon oil spill catastrophe etc....

unforeseen circumstances?

or simply

SH*T HAPPENS!

The difference is Exxon Valdez and the Deepwater Horizion spills were caused by accidents, i.e. things not working as intended. Wind turbines and the focused solar collectors have bird issues while operating as intended.
And the cars on the roads by the wind farms kill more raptors than do the mills. High tension wires and communication towers also kill more birds. So why not address those first?

But we know why those are not being addressed. Because this is an ideological piece of bullshit, has nothing to do with caring for birds or any part of the environment. The big fossil energy corporations are afraid of what solar and wind are doing to their market, and are passing out talking points to people with no brains.

The only reason I bring it up is you idiots think wind and solar come from nothing, cause no harm, and have no impacts. You have to sell it like that to overcome the obvious weakness of both, the intermittent nature of the provided power.

You are typical of your type, any criticism of your cherished concepts has to be destroyed, even if they are valid points.
Gotta love the mentality that also touts the benefits of battery powered vehicles. Where does the electricity come from to charge their batteries?
 
California's new solar power plant is actually a death ray that's incinerating birds mid-flight - ExtremeTech
What spans 1,600 hectares, cost $2.2 billion to build, and potentially fries hundreds of thousands of birds per year? The new BrightSource solar power plant in California’s Mojave Dessert. The plant, which uses some 350,000 garage-door-sized mirrors to focus sunlight on three boiler towers, also acts as a death ray, instantly igniting and killing any wildlife that happen to fly through the intense beam of light. Wildlife officials are concerned that this concentrated solar power plant, and others like it, could turn into “mega-trap” that decimates the ecosystem — first attracting insects, and then attracting birds that eat insects. BrightSource, in the mean time, is forging ahead with an even larger solar power plant that officials say could kill four times as many birds. Won’t somebody stop these not-so-green nature-killing maniacs?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Oh look the brainy scientist are so smart, using some bs based of money ,and oh those millionaires wouldn't want to tell you it's a fk up because imagine how the billions they'd lose in stocks. That money is more important than the health of their peasants.

Science is never wrong they know everything .
they don't know everything,

but they are problem solvers....

And it seems like they could create some sort of bird whistle like a deer whistle that surrounds the plant or some kind of invisible electrical fence that could steer the birds away from the frying area???

deer whistles dont work

it is a fraud
Really? Darn! Was just getting ready buy one for the hubby.....he had 3 deer accidents last fall!!!

Someone on this site swore they work....

Bummer.....we had another warm winter so the State's Deer Herd has near doubled....bad for drivers though.
Hunting helps thin the herd and fills freezers
 
how many birds, fish and animals died from the Exxon Valdez Alaskan oil spill or the BP deep water Horizon oil spill catastrophe etc....

unforeseen circumstances?

or simply

SH*T HAPPENS!

The difference is Exxon Valdez and the Deepwater Horizion spills were caused by accidents, i.e. things not working as intended. Wind turbines and the focused solar collectors have bird issues while operating as intended.
And the cars on the roads by the wind farms kill more raptors than do the mills. High tension wires and communication towers also kill more birds. So why not address those first?

But we know why those are not being addressed. Because this is an ideological piece of bullshit, has nothing to do with caring for birds or any part of the environment. The big fossil energy corporations are afraid of what solar and wind are doing to their market, and are passing out talking points to people with no brains.

The only reason I bring it up is you idiots think wind and solar come from nothing, cause no harm, and have no impacts. You have to sell it like that to overcome the obvious weakness of both, the intermittent nature of the provided power.

You are typical of your type, any criticism of your cherished concepts has to be destroyed, even if they are valid points.
Gotta love the mentality that also touts the benefits of battery powered vehicles. Where does the electricity come from to charge their batteries?
And the batteries themselves are worse on the environment than gasoline.
 

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