California: State of Insurrection

[JoeB131]

• "Stolen" Argument:
  Some argue that the United States illegally seized California through military force and a treaty that was unfairly imposed on Mexico. Others argue that the United States had legitimate claims to the land based on prior American settlement and expansionist policies.
  
  
• Native American Perspective:
  It's important to acknowledge the historical and ongoing impacts on the Indigenous peoples of California, who were displaced from their lands due to the arrival of both Spanish and American settlers. The acquisition of California also involved the displacement and forced labor of Native Americans.
  
  

Ah, yes, I went to College with a Commie who thought like that. He thought California belonged to Mexico or the Native Americans, depending on who he was trying to patronize that week.

The reality is, America developed California into the place that people actually wanted to go to and live in.

 

[scruffy]

Problem is… Trump isn’t deporting criminals (at least not felons) … he’s just sweeping people up

Horseshit.

Your TDS is out of control.

 

[sparky]

If an epidemic breaks out in a poor community, the germs don't distinguish between who has their papers or not.

germs come into the USofA w/out vetting , where as they would be vetted via ports of entry Joe

~S~

 

[JoeB131]

germs come into the USofA w/out vetting , where as they would be vetted via ports of entry Joe

~S~

Bullshit. The first cases of Covid in this country were not illegal aliens. They were Americans who had travelled to China and Europe and caught it.

You are the stupidest person on this board.

 

[sparky]

Bullshit. The first cases of Covid in this country were not illegal aliens. They were Americans who had travelled to China and Europe and caught it.

You are the stupidest person on this board.

the CDC has protocols for entry, so does the TSA for airports ,and cruise liners

illegal entry does none of this

~S~

 

[JoeB131]

the CDC has protocols for entry, so does the TSA for airports ,and cruise liners

illegal entry does none of this

~S~

Yeah, somehow, I don't think sick people are going to be able to make the trek across a desert to get here illegally. You hae to be pretty healthy to pull that one off.

The other problem is that 50% of undocumented immigrants DID come here legally and overstayed their visas, which is why collective health is necessary.

We really should have universal health care like any other civilized country.

 

[sparky]

We really should have universal health care like any other civilized country.

I was a foot soldier in American healthcare for decades Joe ,many stories of those who 'fell through the cracks' , simply because they didn't have $$$

so on one hand i'll agree we don't have a system that serves all equally , OTHO i would caution anyone subscribing to a socialist system that>>>>

~S~

 

[EvilCat Breath]

He is doing what he said he was going to do. That's not the problem, it's the way and zealousness that he is doing it with almost total disregard for America.

Trump isn't aggressive enough. That's a disappointment.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Yeah, somehow, I don't think sick people are going to be able to make the trek across a desert to get here illegally. You hae to be pretty healthy to pull that one off.

The other problem is that 50% of undocumented immigrants DID come here legally and overstayed their visas, which is why collective health is necessary.

We really should have universal health care like any other civilized country.

By all means give the invaders medical care. Take the cost out of whatever foreign aid their country gets. Once stabilized, deport them.

 

[JoeB131]

I was a foot soldier in American healthcare for decades Joe ,many stories of those who 'fell through the cracks' , simply because they didn't have $$$

so on one hand i'll agree we don't have a system that serves all equally , OTHO i would caution anyone subscribing to a socialist system that>>>>

Again, unless you are a Native American, you came from immigrants, too.

By all means give the invaders medical care. Take the cost out of whatever foreign aid their country gets. Once stabilized, deport them.

Conservatism... the cruelty has become the point.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Again, unless you are a Native American, you came from immigrants, too.



Conservatism... the cruelty has become the point.

Cruelty IS the point. They come because the free welcome mat is out. Stop that and they will stay home or go somewhere else.